pc recording gurus out there tanong lang. :)

[shutterbugjohn]

thanks for reading. gusto ko lang mag tanong about direct boxes and what does it do really. i kinda read a few articles about it pero i want to hear it from the peeps who use it talaga. not just any manufacturers advertisement. anyways, im planning to get a demonizer pedal from damage control and its also a tube preamp and a direct recording device. so can i use the direct out pluggd straight to my soundcard then or do i still need to use a mixer or a direct box? kinda new in home recording. thanks everyone.

and another thing pala. ung demonizer kasi preamp/distortion/direct rec device. -maganda sya kasi tube pero ok kaya pang gig to? baka mahirap kasi mag adjust pag preamp e. or iniiisip ko rin bumili na lang ako ng proCo deucetone, tapos bili n lang ako ng tag 2.5k na direct box. ano kaya maganda? i like both of their distortion sounds.

[xjepoyx]

thanks for reading. gusto ko lang mag tanong about direct boxes and what does it do really. i kinda read a few articles about it pero i want to hear it from the peeps who use it talaga. not just any manufacturers advertisement. anyways, im planning to get a demonizer pedal from damage control and its also a tube preamp and a direct recording device. so can i use the direct out pluggd straight to my soundcard then or do i still need to use a mixer or a direct box? kinda new in home recording. thanks everyone.

My Views on This:

1. What is your current Audio Interface(Sound Card)?
      - you need either EMU, M-Audio
2. Re: Mixer... are you planning your band to record Multitrack at the same time or planning to record multitrack for drums?
      - if no, no need for a mixer , if yes you should get one. i recommend you get a firewire mixer
3. Re: Direct Box...
      - No need for Direct Box if your recording straight to your DAW.
      - If your planning to play using a guitar amp then record to your DAW you need a mic (eg. SM57) placed in the speakers of your amp
4. What are the specs of your DAW?

[shutterbugjohn]

thanks jepoy. ito issues ko.. i dont know what is DAW. hehehe. sorry man talagang di ko alam mga terms nyo. guitarist ako. we need to record bass and guitar tracks. and vocals off course pero akop at bahista ko techy naman kami kaya we did recordings sa mga bahay namin tapos ako na lang mag mix.

sound blaster audigy ung sound card, tapos balak ko kasi analog distortion lang sana. basta i need to record the guitar parts ng ok talaga. un di magtuunog digital masyado. thanks dude. hehe.

[xjepoyx]

NP Bro. DAW - Digital Audio Workstation (in shot your PC ).

Ok na yang sound card mo. I started din using Audigy. If you really want na di magtunog digital yung recordings nyo better use a mic plugged into your audigy placed in the guitar amp. I suggest get a good mic like Shure SM57. Just be sure your sound proofing and acoustics in your room is ok.

BTW what application are you using?

[shutterbugjohn]

im using sonar 5 pe. kapa ko pa pero nakapagrecord n rin ok naman lumabas. ok un suggestion mo old school talga. pano kung i want it direct? ok ba ung demonizer sa tingin mo? direct recording device/ distortion / preamp. may 2 12ax7 tubes. parang na gagas ako dun e. hehehe.

ang concern ko lang talga is to get the sound na sinetup ko sa ampo sana. naka 12 oclock naman lahat ng settings ko sa amp at clean lang sya. minsan sinasaksak ko pa sa return para speakers lang gamit ko. just to get the sound i really like. pag dating sa pc hirap e. hehe. what does direct boxes do ba? does it really help?

[xjepoyx]

If you can get the settings done in your demonizer same as with your guitar amp... uubra direct na rin ang plugin mo sa pc. The 1st and last time ko nakakita nyan was when i had a client around 8mos ago who just wants to record his stuff on PC. Sabi pa nga nya "pare astig to kahit wala ng guitar amp... kuha pa rin ang dumi ng analog" hahaha natawa lang ako sa kanya kasi mejo mayabang din hehe pero infairness tunog guitar amp sya.

No need for a direct box, your just gonna need that kung your gonna plug the Out of your Guitar amp to your sound card and the input-buffering amplifier ensures clean and powerful sound, even with extremely long cables. pero ang gsto mo nga palabasin eh yung dumi ng ng aanolg sounds kaya you dont need that.

[shutterbugjohn]

hehe, pangarap ko ung demonizer na un e. hehe. chek mo ung mga review sa utube. astig tlaga e. its either that or ung proco na deucetone ang trip ko. medyo into hard rock kasi e. not hardcore. hehe. and mas versatile kasi kesa mag ds1 ako or vox bullbdog. just starting my analog setup p lang kasi. i saw ur nick, may edge of illusion. i remember hearing u sa la 105 dati.good job. astig kau. mga kasabay ng backdraft, panic city, wolfgang, razorback etc etc. hehe. ok thanks sa advice. siguro gamitin ko muna ung multi ko sa mga demo records. hanggang wla pang demonizer. hehe. thanks man. pag may tanong lit ako ha. hehe.

[xjepoyx]

wow la105 listener. sayang wala ka sa eb last tuesday... tumugtog ang edge.

NP...anytime bro... di lang naman ako pedeng sumagot sa mga queries nyo dito. nagkataon lang na ako na lang gising hehe.



PEACE!!

[shutterbugjohn]

astig. minsan panoorin ko kau. ahehe.onga matulungin mga tao dito . hehe. si sir kitc dami ko rin antanong dun. for sure kung gising sya dami nya rin tinuro sa akin hehe. thanks man. big help.

[music_doctor]

Duhhh... ang directbox, ginagamit lang pag ang input ng pagsasaksakan mong mixer or soundcard, or amplifier, eh yung 3-pin XLR connector, aka cannon connector, aka balanced connector. This is becoz your guitar output has only 2 terminals, the 1. signal, and the 2. ground. The direct box converts this to 3... namely, 1. positive(+) signal, 2. negative(-) signal, and 3. ground. Mas malinis and mas malakas ang gain pag ganito ang setup, but still, it does NOT assure you of a better sounding guitar sa recording. Recording a good guitar sound would rely on HOW your guitar setup sounds like when you play it live, whether by miking a guitar amp, or by using a multi-fx pedal WITH A BUILT-IN ampsimulator.

[KitC]

There used to be a thread here about direct boxes pero the search function is out again. 

Anyway, a direct box transforms an unbalanced connection to a balanced one. the reason for being is that balanced lines have better noise cancellation (thru the arcane principle of common mode rejection) giving you better signal to noise ratios. Because of the noise cancellation, you can run balanced lines longer than unbalanced. DI boxes will not necessarily give you a better guitar tone as music_doctor has pointed out. It does give you the ability to connect your amp direct into a mixer channel.

Remember that tone is a function of many things: the guitar, the fx, the amp and speaker cab, and even the cables and room! That's why purists prefer to mic their amp. In other studios, they will move the cabinet around the room until it sounds good in it, then go thru all manner of miking (stereo, distant, whatever) just to capture that tone.

I've heard good things about the Demonizer (and it's companion, the Womanizer). It has a direct recording out so you can connect it direct to your pc, or any other line input - no need for a DI box if it's last in your chain. It can also be connected to an amp if you prefer. For me, it doesn't matter whether it's miked or direct as long as the recorded sound is the sound you want to hear.

[music_doctor]

For me, it doesn't matter whether it's miked or direct as long as the recorded sound is the sound you want to hear.

Ayun na yun!... MISMO!... Ako, I use both... for the comping, I go direct, with just the multiFX with built-in ampsim (and some midi at times  ), but for the solos, I go for miking.

[shutterbugjohn]

hehehe. un dalawang hinahanap ko sumagot na. hehehe. thanks master kit and master music doctor. i'll definitely do that. right now all i have is a multi effector and a few analog stompboxes to work on. i think im convinced about the demonizer now that master kitc and master jepoy gave good comments aboput them. too bad i dont have an sm57 to experiment with. much thanks masters.

[jaythegame]

is cool edit pro 2 any good? ive been using it for a while and ive grown accustomed to it..

[xjepoyx]

is cool edit pro 2 any good? ive been using it for a while and ive grown accustomed to it..

for starters... ok sya. the only problem is di sya pedeng simultaneous multitrack recording coz it uses wdm drivers.

[KitC]

for starters... ok sya. the only problem is di sya pedeng simultaneous multitrack recording coz it uses wdm drivers.

Correction... pwede multitracking with Cool Edit provided kaya ng drivers at kaya ng soundcard. I've even tried simultaneous tracking with 2 diff soundcards (AWE32 and SBLive  ) and it was possible, but not optimal. Supposedly with the multi-input M-audio cards, you can multitrack across several M-audio cards since the drivers allow it. Asio is not a requirement for multitracking, it depends on the soundcard's driver implementation.

[abyssinianson]

for starters... ok sya. the only problem is di sya pedeng simultaneous multitrack recording coz it uses wdm drivers.

Correction... pwede multitracking with Cool Edit provided kaya ng drivers at kaya ng soundcard. I've even tried simultaneous tracking with 2 diff soundcards (AWE32 and SBLive  ) and it was possible, but not optimal. Supposedly with the multi-input M-audio cards, you can multitrack across several M-audio cards since the drivers allow it. Asio is not a requirement for multitracking, it depends on the soundcard's driver implementation.

I can vouch for the multiple M-Audio cards since I've multitracked with 2 Delta rack 1010s before. It works. I used multiple inputs when my brother had a bigger drumself and we needed the extra inputs to track live and accomodate some sample triggers, a Roland MC-505, and a Bass Shaker. And Kit is right, ASIO is not required but is the best means to record because it optimizes your system and soundcard for audio use.

[xjepoyx]

for starters... ok sya. the only problem is di sya pedeng simultaneous multitrack recording coz it uses wdm drivers.

Correction... pwede multitracking with Cool Edit provided kaya ng drivers at kaya ng soundcard. I've even tried simultaneous tracking with 2 diff soundcards (AWE32 and SBLive  ) and it was possible, but not optimal. Supposedly with the multi-input M-audio cards, you can multitrack across several M-audio cards since the drivers allow it. Asio is not a requirement for multitracking, it depends on the soundcard's driver implementation.

yun lang... di ko lang talaga nagahasa mabuti cooledit nung araw hehehe

[jaythegame]

Thanx.. so regardin sa mga effects nya, bkt parang ang crappy ng mga distortion effects nya at tunog digital tlga ung reverb.. at sama narin ung noise and hiss reduction? hnd maayos.. meron akong plugin na sony noise reduction pero hnd ko pa nattry..