learning to solo - need tips from experienced players

[69Thursdays]

can i just learn note intervals of scales instead of learning music technically and do riffs and licks based on "feeling"? i want to skip learning to read notes and just play stuff that i can hear inside my head.

[kurtseth]

imho opinion playing licks or improvisations from what you hear in your head is good

but i dont think you would be able to properly execute them without the proper knowledge

i learned how to play licks with being just mediocre on the note reading bit

read up kahit kaunti

then experiment


works for a lot of people

[acidtest]

no offense but, have you heard of 'no pain, no gain?'
 

[kurtseth]

QFT


no pain no gain

you still need to learn sir




learn them experiment and improvise

[juan_portnoy]

Eto ang solusyon kapatid:

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?board=159.0
 

[timmy page]

familiarize and master the basics tulad ng mga chord family etc. believe me dude,. pag sinunod mo tip ko lahat ng marinig mo sa isip mo ma mamaterialize mo sa guitar

[fourth_cycle]

try watching girl guitarist yung mas bata or mas matanda sayo, yun motivation ehheheh, eh kung gsto mo tlaga mabilisan watch mo si luismetalkid yun mainspire ka talaga mag practice

[omarrodriguezvic]

can i just learn note intervals of scales instead of learning music technically and do riffs and licks based on "feeling"? i want to skip learning to read notes and just play stuff that i can hear inside my head.

yes you can! If you ask me, mas ok saken magskip na lang ng theories (or kahit basic knowledge lang) kase feeling ko mas hindi predictable ang mga choice of notes ko when I do riffs and licks. Nakakasawa na kse yung iba halos magkakatunog na, wala man lang tayo marinig na bagong nakaka WOW talaga. Pero, wala naman mawawala kung magaaral eh, makakadagdag pa nga sa knowledge. Kaya kaw kung ano trip mo sundin mo. kung kakaiba at the same time maganda ba nagagawa mo eh di wag kana magaral, sige ka pag nagaral ka eh maiba pa ang style mo baka pumanget. 

[lenpopz]

Eto base sa nabasa ko sa creative guitar, sabi dun "you should know the mood/sound of each scales before coming up to a good solo/improv". Yun ang pagkakaintindi ko.

[waVyun]

learning solo?

hmm...

Based on my experience, ganito ang naging sequence ko..

1.major scale - nandun na lahat eh. Ionian, dorian, mixo, phryg, lyd, aeol, loc...

2. i sing it out.. then hanapin ko sa fretboard..

gnun ako nagstart when i was 16.. well, wla ako proper lesson kasi self study lang ako.. so dun ako sa magiging comfortable ako.. Natuto talaga ko by ear.. I'm a oido

Then i realized, i need to spice things up.. that's when i decided to learn techniques na..

3. legato, sticato, alternate picking, etc..

So nun mejo nakukuha ko na sya, i got deeper na, na parang nasangkot na ko sa isang malaking gulo..
Dun na pumasok yung mga moods na tinutuloy ni sir lenpopz.. blues, rock.. more on pentatonics and passed notes.. then anjan yung jazz(na nagpaiyak ng utak ko! haha).. bsta yun..
Pero focus ko ksi is rock talaga.. so stick ako dun..

So d ko na gaano matandaan yung ibang process eh..

In short, bsta kung ano yung sa palagay mo o napapansin mong kulang, alamin mo... Iconquer mo, my internet naman eh... 87% ng knowledge ko na-gain ko sa world wide web..

10%?

my ears..

2%?

sa kapitbahay kong metal na tuwing umaga walang ginawa kundi magshred... ^^

[brokenstalker]

learning solo?

hmm...

Based on my experience, ganito ang naging sequence ko..

1.major scale - nandun na lahat eh. Ionian, dorian, mixo, phryg, lyd, aeol, loc...

2. i sing it out.. then hanapin ko sa fretboard..

gnun ako nagstart when i was 16.. well, wla ako proper lesson kasi self study lang ako.. so dun ako sa magiging comfortable ako.. Natuto talaga ko by ear.. I'm a oido

Then i realized, i need to spice things up.. that's when i decided to learn techniques na..

3. legato, sticato, alternate picking, etc..

So nun mejo nakukuha ko na sya, i got deeper na, na parang nasangkot na ko sa isang malaking gulo..
Dun na pumasok yung mga moods na tinutuloy ni sir lenpopz.. blues, rock.. more on pentatonics and passed notes.. then anjan yung jazz(na nagpaiyak ng utak ko! haha).. bsta yun..
Pero focus ko ksi is rock talaga.. so stick ako dun..

So d ko na gaano matandaan yung ibang process eh..

In short, bsta kung ano yung sa palagay mo o napapansin mong kulang, alamin mo... Iconquer mo, my internet naman eh... 87% ng knowledge ko na-gain ko sa world wide web..

10%?

my ears..

2%?

sa kapitbahay kong metal na tuwing umaga walang ginawa kundi magshred... ^^

edi 1% na lng kulang?

[waVyun]

edi 1% na lng kulang?

yep! my kulang pa eh.. ^^

[hedgehug_23]

ask the metal kid,Luis...

[69Thursdays]

...and then i saw this!!!

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/scales/learning_the_scales.html

ok so its learning scale formulas for me! 

[firewaterjem]

can i just learn note intervals of scales instead of learning music technically and do riffs and licks based on "feeling"? i want to skip learning to read notes and just play stuff that i can hear inside my head.

you can that...
but you can be better when you have your music theory.

[bryanarzaga]

you can that...
but you can be better when you have your music theory.

listen to this guy! he knows because its his JOB! 

[firewaterjem]

listen to this guy! he knows because its his JOB!  

nabuking   
hehehehehe..
still learning my music theory   

[bhaahchico]

learn and listen

[fourth_cycle]

learn basics of strumming!!!and its mood kasi dun ka babasi ng lead mo when your still learning at in due marunong kanang mag lead straight, and having stops and breathing also between notes.................watch other guitarist!!

[bhaahchico]

learn basics of strumming!!!and its mood kasi dun ka babasi ng lead mo when your still learning at in due marunong kanang mag lead straight, and having stops and breathing also between notes.................watch other guitarist!!

and feel..

[jimy james]

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[popoy_goodboy]

nice tips.tnx guys 

[metalheadz]

take your time to learn solo's from the guitar players you listen to and try to apply them to your style of soloing

go wild like hendrix (even though he learned the scales )

if all else fails use the scales and modes of the guitar:-D

[hedgehug_23]

I don't really think about those complicated scales when soloing,isang scale nga lang alam ko eh,tapos yung mga pattern dun,mejo kinabisado ko tapos paulit-ulit ko pne-play hehe,chaka ko na lang nililipat ng position depende sa nota ng kanta,so far,mejo okay naman and i'm still learning,paunti-unti ko lang kasi inaral eh para pumasok lahat sa utak ko hehe,ewan ko lang sa ibang mga tao,pero dun ako natuto eh,minsan kasi kelangan din na ikaw mismo makadiscover ng sarili mong style kung paano matututo at maiintindihan ung theory,dati kasi sobrang sinusunod ko yung style ng pagpa-practice ng iba,ang ending,hindi ako nag-improve masyado kasi limited lang yung nako-kopya ko sa iba,kaya ginawa ko,yung mga importanteng natutunan ko sa iba,pinili ko lang yung magagamit ko talaga,pinag-sasama sama ko kaya naging bibo(HAHA)at nagsimula na mag-improve yung guitar playing ko,haha andrama amf,chaka lahat ng klaseng music pakinggan mo,kahit anong genre,wag ka magstu-stuck sa isang genre lang,kasi baka ma-limit yung tenga mo sa isang tunog lang,hindi ka mag-gogrow(yeah!)I've been seriously practicing music for 3 years,natuto nanga din ako mag-piano,drums,bass chaka kumanta eh HAHAHA be consistent sa practice,wag ka maniwala na practice makes perfect,kasi kung practice ka ng practice,tapos mali naman pala yung pina-practice mo,di ka rin mag-iimprove,ayun...AMEN?

[red_hot]

ikaw lang ang makakatulong sa sarili mo TS.
or punta ka dito http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?board=159.0
basta best Practice and Practice ......