SOLO FLAMENCO GUITAR

[5150]

Anyone here into solo flamenco guitar? Wanna look for guys to jam with

[MrGobots]

hmmmm. its been a while, i don't know if my right hand is still my left hand's fiancee. tempting, the last I played some flamenco was 5 years ago at that tapas place at The Podium a friend was part of the quartet serenading guests. When they came to our table they handed me a nice Spanish smelling guitar and had me jam to Solea. It was embarrassing, I didn't have the nails for it then and I know I played as lousy as I play today. Will watch this thread...

[sonikyut]

akala ko thread para sa mga Flamenco Guitarist. 

ive tried to play Samba Del Sol in nylon guitar once..pfff im not that good, nakakangalay at masakit sa daliri sa umpisa hahahaha siguro mga tugtuging pang-probinsya parang punebre in acid lang ang kaya ko...

btw...hats off ako sa mga flamenco guitarist like Paco DL and the likes...even though they dont have the same genre as Yngwie and Satriani, flamenco guitarist blows them off   

[MrGobots]

the thing with nylon guitars is that after a while you tend to get bored with the monotone, but with flamecno guitarists and the tangos and maracas etc... yun!

[sonikyut]

the thing with nylon guitars is that after a while you tend to get bored with the monotone, but with flamecno guitarists and the tangos and maracas etc... yun!

i know the vibe..mahirap lang talaga para sa akin ... if i had the time and money lang..gusto ko mag-aral nyan even im old (30s')..unless i live somewhere in Spain or South America flooded by local flamenco guitarist  that will be fun...

[5150]

akala ko thread para sa mga Flamenco Guitarist. 

ive tried to play Samba Del Sol in nylon guitar once..pfff im not that good, nakakangalay at masakit sa daliri sa umpisa hahahaha siguro mga tugtuging pang-probinsya parang punebre in acid lang ang kaya ko...

btw...hats off ako sa mga flamenco guitarist like Paco DL and the likes...even though they dont have the same genre as Yngwie and Satriani, flamenco guitarist blows them off   

You're right bro it's about flamenco guitarists...
I started out as a classical guitarist and ofcourse electric...
With flamenco, you gotta have excellent classical guitar fundamentals for both left and right hand. So if you're not used to playing fingerstyle and jump into it right away mmmm..... mahirap talaga. And then you have to add the different rasgueado techniques, the golpes, flamenco tremolo, alzapua, picado plus the music theory involved in it.

It's important also to understand by heart the different palos which is complex at first. This I find the most challenging part of flamenco....

But it's fun!

[5150]

hmmmm. its been a while, i don't know if my right hand is still my left hand's fiancee. tempting, the last I played some flamenco was 5 years ago at that tapas place at The Podium a friend was part of the quartet serenading guests. When they came to our table they handed me a nice Spanish smelling guitar and had me jam to Solea. It was embarrassing, I didn't have the nails for it then and I know I played as lousy as I play today. Will watch this thread...

That seems cool. The place still around?
I remember during my college days Paco Pena and his group had a concert at Instituto Cervantes and what blew me away was  the "palmas" being done by the dancers.

Speaking of nails, I hate it when I break a fingernail. I always have superglue in my bag and nail files and sandpaper to do a repair job on the spot.

[MrGobots]

i haven't been to the podium lately, last I was any where near the podium was when I went to megamall a couple of months ago and left my car at the parking lot beside it. I think the place was Caza Armas

hahaha... mighty bond  manicure.... good thing nung college di pa uso yung china P10 denxiaopan super glue. baka na lead poison na ko hhehehe.  did you have yours rounded or pointed when you file them? or do you just let them grow naturally? I just filed mine in the inside corner just so the strings dont get caught with it. and my right hand was always a chick repellant back then, didnt do well with the ladies until I switched courses and unleashed the gym-going cono, and discovered hiphop and house music was where a lot of a-grade, porn watching, horny girls were.

[5150]

i haven't been to the podium lately, last I was any where near the podium was when I went to megamall a couple of months ago and left my car at the parking lot beside it. I think the place was Caza Armas

hahaha... mighty bond  manicure.... good thing nung college di pa uso yung china P10 denxiaopan super glue. baka na lead poison na ko hhehehe.  did you have yours rounded or pointed when you file them? or do you just let them grow naturally? I just filed mine in the inside corner just so the strings dont get caught with it. and my right hand was always a chick repellant back then, didnt do well with the ladies until I switched courses and unleashed the gym-going cono, and discovered hiphop and house music was where a lot of a-grade, porn watching, horny girls were.

LMAO

I use crown bond... P10 lang

The way I do it, I lay a 400 grit flat on the table, do a tremolo over it. After a while you'll see your nails filed according to the stroke of your fingers.... then follow the contour, round it off and also at the corners. This also goes for the thumb. Then fine sand with 1000 grit up and burnish with leather. I also make sure that I finesand and burnish the underpart of the nail, which is the part that really hits the string.

As for the chicks part, I got my own dose since I did showband gigs at night... 

[MrGobots]

LMAO

I use crown bond... P10 lang

The way I do it, I lay a 400 grit flat on the table, do a tremolo over it. After a while you'll see your nails filed according to the stroke of your fingers.... then follow the contour, round it off and also at the corners. This also goes for the thumb. Then fine sand with 1000 grit up and burnish with leather. I also make sure that I finesand and burnish the underpart of the nail, which is the part that really hits the string.

As for the chicks part, I got my own dose since I did showband gigs at night... 

crown bond wasn't avaliable 15 years ago... so mighty bond talaga nun hehehe. grabe yung finger ritual mo a, i guess its absolutely necessary.

I liked playing in a show band, got to do that for less than a year and then burned out when the band wanted to take on gigs on a daily basis and couldn't do so because I had a day job. (my 350 a night every friday and saturday could not pay even for my cellphone bills 7-8 years ago) but the abundance of chicks in bedrock, arkdia, tias, o sige na nga cowboy that were easily impressed by a double-din car stereo was more than enough compensation... back then ha (I'm happily married, and only occasionally masturbate to porn). plus i dont know what I was really doing with that band, i think I was faking it and let the keyboard do most of the rhythm work. di pa uso si arnel pineda nun kaya walang masayadong solos. puros destiny's child at 50 cent lang hehehehe. sweet child lang ata natugtog ko na may solo nun e.

back to flamenco.... just googled paco pena. wow!

[5150]

I can relate to that... Bedrock in Malate up to 5am... Arkdia was a cool place but eventually closed. There was also another bar in Malate that we used to play with just can't remember... There was also ratsky's, musichall, annapolis live, Fat Tuesdays in Alabang, Kampo, Studebaker and a lot of other bars that don't exist now.

You could also search on Sabicas, Habichuela, the newer one like Gerardo Nunez, Oscar Herrero and syempre Paco de Lucia...
I was doing malmsteen stuff when nobody else heard of him in the 80's but when I got into PACO... I just threw my pick out the window

There are lots of videos shot in the 70's with Paco, Coryell, John Mclaughlin shredding on the guitar... and this was the time that Rock gods of the electric guitar was still playing at a snails pace... before Eddie Van Halen and then Yngwie... it dawned on me the  acoustic guitar players were ahead of their electric guitar counterparts on shredding

[MrGobots]

and trem picking was done with a graceful right hand and steady finger pace and not by stiffening your forearm. got time for some youtube before heading out for breakfast, will search for these.. thanks

[sonikyut]

There are lots of videos shot in the 70's with Paco, Coryell, John Mclaughlin shredding on the guitar... and this was the time that Rock gods of the electric guitar was still playing at a snails pace... before Eddie Van Halen and then Yngwie... it dawned on me the  acoustic guitar players were ahead of their electric guitar counterparts on shredding

agree ...Arkdia kung di ako nagkakamali pagaari ito ni Joey B. ng Saga band?

[MrGobots]

i think a guy named jong and  a fil-jap going by kawasaki ang may-ari ng arkdia nuon, met with them a couple of times for business. was with jong at a friends bday in novaliches a couple of months ago din.

[5150]

and trem picking was done with a graceful right hand and steady finger pace and not by stiffening your forearm. got time for some youtube before heading out for breakfast, will search for these.. thanks

Van Halen, during the earlier years had a piece called "Little Guitars" where he tried to simulate tremolo by picking with his right and hammering the bass notes with his left.

[guitarwiz02]

Van Halen, during the earlier years had a piece called "Little Guitars" where he tried to simulate tremolo by picking with his right and hammering the bass notes with his left.

Yes. That was really a clever move by EVH. What's really great about him is how he does everything his way. He doesn't care what anybody says and will say. EVH is an absolute innovator in its truest sense.

[5150]

i think a guy named jong and  a fil-jap going by kawasaki ang may-ari ng arkdia nuon, met with them a couple of times for business. was with jong at a friends bday in novaliches a couple of months ago din.

I remember back then inbetween sets, there would be a grind contest and tequila bodyshots for girls in the audience...

[MrGobots]

I remember back then inbetween sets, there would be a grind contest and tequila bodyshots for girls in the audience...

oh i remember that guy... "1,2,3.... suck it Baby!"

anyway, this thread i think just inspired me create a whole new set up. I admit new gear inspires me to practice, after all I don't want all that investment put to waste. I am contemplating on getting a ZT Lunchbox Acoustic and a new D&D Nylon something, this new years. That woudl probably inspire me back to more intense classical and hopefully some flamenco.

I'm bored with just classical guitar. Maybe an electrocoustic set-up would have a better effect on my hopeless playing. The new options would probably inspire more.

[5150]

I tried the D&D but the neck dimensions are too slim for me.
I tried those Arias at JB and they're not the same like the AC-80 I was using in college. Also tried the Manuel Rodriguez's there and still the sound don't cut it....

Doin' a search on ebay hopefully I'll get lucky

[MrGobots]

nothing like spanish wood (Sounds like gay porn)... the thread True Acoustic Tone has some nice discussions on Nylons. I am trying to look for the guy that bought my Sanchez back in college, its in on its third hand-down already from the first time I sold it. JB sells classical Aria's?

Anyway at this point the D&D's feel right for me, as I like everything to run on electricity nowadays, and the action and neck feel of the one I tried out was perfect for me.

[5150]

Yes JB sells Arias alright... but it does not sound anything close to the Aria's that I got and a few of my UST buds during the 90"s... solid spruce top, EI rosewood back and sides, ebony fretboard.

In the RJ store in SM North, I chanced upon one of their classicals, Cedar top... best one I tried locally. Tried the same model in the other branch, was not the same. Same also for the Valencia. They have guitars that sound good, you just have to try as many as you can get your hands on.

I remember when I got my Aria, I tried more than 10 guitars of the same model