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The Music Forums => Pop! => Topic started by: pugaykamayna on March 08, 2008, 02:57:30 PM
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Sa kabila ng mga pangyayari sa industriya ng musika sa Pilipinas, maaari pa ba kayong magbigay ng MGA dahilan kung bakit dapat isulong at tangkilikin ang musikang Pinoy.
Maaari ring magpost dito ng mga International Achievements ng mga musikerong Pilipino.
Salamat.
Mabuhay ang musikang Pinoy!
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shempre isipin mo na lang kung bakit pinagtanggol ni Rizal ang mga pilipino laban sa pananakop ng mga kastila diba? para mayroon tayong maipagmalaking... SARILING ATIN! :-D
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Dahil kahit ano mangyari, tayo pa rin ay Pilipino. So, we should promote our own music, whatever happens. Don't be a crab. Ayaw man natin nangyayari sa industriya, kelangan pa rin natin suportahan ito dahil ito rin ang tutulong sa atin balang araw. If you don't want it, then get your sh1t and get out from the country! Wag ka na manghila ng iba pababa....
(no particular person i'm pointing out....)
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Dahil walang rason kung bakit hindi dapat tangkilikin ang musikang Pilipino?
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tanggalin na lang ang O sa OPM.
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tanggalin na lang ang O sa OPM.
Teka ah, bakit naman? :? :-)
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Teka ah, bakit naman? :? :-)
kasi yung mga Amerikano di naman nila sinasabing "hoy Original American Music tong amin!" o kaya yung mga Briton na "hoy Original Brit Pop/Rock Music tong amin!"
:-D
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Kunsabagay with the pinoy artists covering songs like crazy, we can't call it "original" anymore.
Ditto ako sa Pinoy Music lang....
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kasi yung mga Amerikano di naman nila sinasabing "hoy Original American Music tong amin!" o kaya yung mga Briton na "hoy Original Brit Pop/Rock Music tong amin!"
:-D
Teka, di naman natin sila kailangan sundan ah. :-)
Panu kung ganito, may "Amerimusic.com"
Ninejuicyamerican : Let's put some "O" in American Music.
Insultedamerican : Why?
Ninjuicyamerican : Because the filipino's have it.
Insultedamerican : Wait, we don't have to follow them, right?
(Tama na pwedeng tanggalin yung "O" pero siguro sa ibang dahilan.)
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Teka, di naman natin sila kailangan sundan ah. :-)
Panu kung ganito, may "Amerimusic.com"
Ninejuicyamerican : Let's put some "O" in American Music.
Insultedamerican : Why?
Ninjuicyamerican : Because the filipino's have it.
Insultedamerican : Wait, we don't have to follow them, right?
(Tama na pwedeng tanggalin yung "O" pero siguro sa ibang dahilan.)
you completely missed my point. :-D
ang punto, kasi yung pagsasabi nating "Original" Pinoy Music, parang may impression na nagiging defensive agad tayo. parang ipinagdidiinan natin na "hoy original tong amin!" when in fact unnecessary naman talagang sabihin pang original ang mga gawa natin since in the first place, artists strive for originality.
ayun. :-D
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you completely missed my point. :-D
ang punto, kasi yung pagsasabi nating "Original" Pinoy Music, parang may impression na nagiging defensive agad tayo. parang ipinagdidiinan natin na "hoy original tong amin!" when in fact unnecessary naman talagang sabihin pang original ang mga gawa natin since in the first place, artists strive for originality.
ayun. :-D
Ganun ba? Ok. Ang layo kasi nung una mong sinabi. :-)
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Ganun ba? Ok. Ang layo kasi nung una mong sinabi. :-)
malayo?! :-D
mahirap talaga makita ang irony sa salita lang. :-D
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"damaged culture" kasi kuno nag Pilipinas e.
Ang pinupukpok ng media sa atin ay olats tayo.
Thus, our natural responses are defensive and overcompensating.
Blame the bulok na media ng bansa natin for our horrible national self-perception.
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malayo?! :-D
mahirap talaga makita ang irony sa salita lang. :-D
Oo pre...bakit kasi kailangan mo pang idamay yung definition ng mga kano sa musika nila para lang sabihin na dapat hindi tayo defensive. :-)
Tama na to...nagkaintindihan naman na tayo eh. Baka maging personal pa.
Peace! :-D
Irony...kailangan talaga marinig yung pagkakasabi para mas maintindihan. :-)
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haha. grabe. ginamit ko lang bilang halimbawa yung sa american at british music.
no biggie. it's all good. healthy debate naman to. para sa ikabubuti naman ng lahat to.
:-D
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haha. grabe. ginamit ko lang bilang halimbawa yung sa american at british music.
no biggie. it's all good. healthy debate naman to. para sa ikabubuti naman ng lahat to.
:-D
Owrayt! Apir! Kita-kits na lang sa AGT. :-D
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you completely missed my point. :-D
ang punto, kasi yung pagsasabi nating "Original" Pinoy Music, parang may impression na nagiging defensive agad tayo. parang ipinagdidiinan natin na "hoy original tong amin!" when in fact unnecessary naman talagang sabihin pang original ang mga gawa natin since in the first place, artists strive for originality.
ayun. :-D
i think at this point we still have to distinguish between pinoy artists who are making original pinoy music, and pinoy artists who are just trying to be the pinoy version of *particular foreign act*. much like the 50s and the 60s where we'd have pinoy versions of elvis presley or perry como. i think being a 'pinoy artist that continously strives for originality' is a still relatively new movement (since it started in the 70s) in our culture and needs every bit of our help and support.
And by that i mean it falls upon all of us, as consumers to be responsible in our choices--not by indescriminately buying local cds, but by buying cds and going to gigs with regards to our own standards of quality and of course, personal preference. In doing so we help WEED OUT those who we think are unworthy of representing our identity as a race and culture. Because in the end, when visitors from the grimlap system excavate the ruins of our by then submerged country, the basis of our culture and lifestyle will be in the relics and artifacts that we produce and value.
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Reason? We're good and at any given opportunity, we can prove it.
Add to that na magaling tayo sumulat sa English :-D kaya mas maraming audience...asan na yung tagay?
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i think at this point we still have to distinguish between pinoy artists who are making original pinoy music, and pinoy artists who are just trying to be the pinoy version of *particular foreign act*. much like the 50s and the 60s where we'd have pinoy versions of elvis presley or perry como. i think being a 'pinoy artist that continously strives for originality' is a still relatively new movement (since it started in the 70s) in our culture and needs every bit of our help and support.
And by that i mean it falls upon all of us, as consumers to be responsible in our choices--not by indescriminately buying local cds, but by buying cds and going to gigs with regards to our own standards of quality and of course, personal preference. In doing so we help WEED OUT those who we think are unworthy of representing our identity as a race and culture. Because in the end, when visitors from the grimlap system excavate the ruins of our by then submerged country, the basis of our culture and lifestyle will be in the relics and artifacts that we produce and value.
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ideally, we at least try to make something that is original. pero siyempre blurred na ang konsepto ng orihinal.
at oo, nagstart lang naman ang brand na OPM nung 70s para mai-distinguish yung movement ng Juan dela Cruz, APO Hiking Society, etc.
pero sa panahon natin ngayon, dapat sigurong pagpahingahin na natin ang titik O sa OPM.
:-D
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maraming dahilan kung bakit kelangan natin suportahan ang industriyang ito
gaya nila,tayo ay bahagi rin ng musikang pinoy na hawak natin ang buhay.
kung hindi natin susuportahan,sila at tayo ang apektado dahil kayo at tayo ay mga musikero.
isang kongkretong epekto ng hindi pagsuporta sa kung anong meron tyo ay ang..
MABABANG budget per head ng mga sesyonista at mga tumotogs sa BARS at kung saan-saan pa.
bigyan natin ng mas mataas na pagtrato ang musikang tyo rin ang makikinabang :mrgreen: :-)
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feed the Pinoy artist
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^^ bot alert!!
lie low ngayon ang pinoy rock scene pero sana in the near future ay mabuhayan naman. i dont think it will die pero, sana may period of resurgence ulit.
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wag na
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dahil tayu-tayong mga Plipino ang nagtutulungan para umahon. tama na yang negativity and crab mentality. it's about time to think positive naman para sa pagbabago.
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most of us would play for free, so why would people start paying?
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OPM - ORIGINAL Pilipino Music
Revivals of foreign songs for me don't count as one.
Moving on, we have a lot of great music artists here.
Unfortunately, our industry (mostly) supports artists who were already in the mainstream. :-(
There were times that the front act performers were even better than the main artists.
I really hate it when somebody says "dapat pang masa".
Pero ano na ba talaga ang gusto ng MASA ngayon?
Revivals? Mga kantang double meaning? Mga songs na parang pang cheering squad? Mga kantang babagay sa mga teleserye?
BTW, wala naman akong nakikitang mali sa revivals, pero minsan kasi yung isang kanta irerevive ng ibat ibang artist in just a year or two.
Just my 2 cents.
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OPM doesn't exist.
Even our own folk/ethnic music came from other countries.
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Let's assume na OPM means music made by Filipino artists. Unless you want to limit yrselves to tribal music, I assume this is the running definition. Personally, I have no reason to promote OPM as "OPM" given that all music is equal. It either appeals to your tastes or it doesn't. If it's good from my standpoint, then I'll call it good and push it as good. Ang Bandang Shirley and Moscow Olympics are amazing and that's not because they're Philippine bands, that's because they are great musicians and songwriters. Just because you're geographically situated here by accident of birth, doesn't mean we're on the same page. Nakakababa rin kasi ng standards yung puro promote even if it's horrible, just because you feel it represents you. Couldn't you better represent yrself? I admit na immediately skeptical ako whenever I hear the term OPM. I'd rather not know where it's from and be pleasantly surprised when I find out a band I like happens to be a band I could see live.
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Let's assume na OPM means music made by Filipino artists. Unless you want to limit yrselves to tribal music, I assume this is the running definition. Personally, I have no reason to promote OPM as "OPM" given that all music is equal. It either appeals to your tastes or it doesn't. If it's good from my standpoint, then I'll call it good and push it as good. Ang Bandang Shirley and Moscow Olympics are amazing and that's not because they're Philippine bands, that's because they are great musicians and songwriters. Just because you're geographically situated here by accident of birth, doesn't mean we're on the same page. Nakakababa rin kasi ng standards yung puro promote even if it's horrible, just because you feel it represents you. Couldn't you better represent yrself? I admit na immediately skeptical ako whenever I hear the term OPM. I'd rather not know where it's from and be pleasantly surprised when I find out a band I like happens to be a band I could see live.
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can we call Charice Pempengco's music OPM?
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support and help your own country. nuff said.
can we call Charice Pempengco's music OPM?
(http://cdn2.gossipcenter.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_header/photos/charice-father-pass.jpg)
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reason? We are filipinos. . .
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tama! it cause' we're PINOYS.
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheNewOPM/
The New OPM, like New Manila Sound, was born to promote new and unheard original Music from independent bands and artists.
This group is open to everyone; musicians, songwriters, singers and listeners alike.
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you completely missed my point. :-D
ang punto, kasi yung pagsasabi nating "Original" Pinoy Music, parang may impression na nagiging defensive agad tayo. parang ipinagdidiinan natin na "hoy original tong amin!" when in fact unnecessary naman talagang sabihin pang original ang mga gawa natin since in the first place, artists strive for originality.
ayun. :-D
tomo
i think at this point we still have to distinguish between pinoy artists who are making original pinoy music, and pinoy artists who are just trying to be the pinoy version of *particular foreign act*. much like the 50s and the 60s where we'd have pinoy versions of elvis presley or perry como. i think being a 'pinoy artist that continously strives for originality' is a still relatively new movement (since it started in the 70s) in our culture and needs every bit of our help and support.
And by that i mean it falls upon all of us, as consumers to be responsible in our choices--not by indescriminately buying local cds, but by buying cds and going to gigs with regards to our own standards of quality and of course, personal preference. In doing so we help WEED OUT those who we think are unworthy of representing our identity as a race and culture. Because in the end, when visitors from the grimlap system excavate the ruins of our by then submerged country, the basis of our culture and lifestyle will be in the relics and artifacts that we produce and value.
tomo din