A rather noob (?) question about toms and snare..

[blindedfox]

Ahm guys I have a question.
(BTW, I've just began drumming last year around March, had just basic drumming knowledge prior to that, guitar kasi talaga yung instrument ko)

Here is my drumset. (Stock pa lahat at the moment.)



So ung placement nung toms is yung usual na nakamount both sa bass drum, and yung snare+stand.

I've seen a lot of kits here na parang ung mid tom, andun nakamount sa place nun high tom.. tapos yung high tom.. nakafloat?
Nakasabit ba yun sa stand nun cymbal? Or merong parang bar na pinagkakabitan nya? And I've seen a kit na nakafloat yung snare. Walang stand.

OK. Here are the noob questions..

1. Paano yun setup nung sa hightom na naka-"float"? And if ever, anung tawag dun sa hardware para alam ko yung sasabihin ko sa music store pag bibilhin ko?

2. Sa "floating" snare? Paano yun? And anung name nun hardware na need ko bilhin para maging ganun?

Pasensya na mga boss if medyo nakakatawa yung questions ko hehe. No knowledge talaga about sa mga ganito. Ang alam ko lang pumalo ng 1,2 1,2 hehe. Salamat!

[Riff_6603]

OK. Here are the noob questions..

1. Paano yun setup nung sa hightom na naka-"float"? And if ever, anung tawag dun sa hardware para alam ko yung sasabihin ko sa music store pag bibilhin ko?

1.) nakakabit dapat sa cymbal stand (or mounted sa snare stand) yung tom mo via grabber clamp. meron nun sa JB music pati din sa Lazer stores. ito yung itsura niya:

2. Sa "floating" snare? Paano yun? And anung name nun hardware na need ko bilhin para maging ganun?

2.) kapag naka-rack setup ka with the likes ng "gibraltar rack factory" pwede yun. ito yung parts na kailangan mo:

* Gibraltar No Leg Snare Stand 9505NL
* Gibraltar SC-EA100 Extension Arm with grabber clamp
* Gibraltar SC-GRSMC or SC-GRSSMC Multi Clamp

more ideas here: http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/?fa=customizeit

[blindedfox]

I see. Grabber Clamp pala tawag dun. So basically (based dun sa assumption ko by looking at the pics you provided, thanks btw), pwede ko cya iclamp sa cymbal stand, maybe sa ilalim nung pihitan nung stand? (Yung pinipihit if gusto mo taasan or babaan un cymbal). Thanks bro.

Dun sa "floating" snare, I've seen a Yamaha kit (di ko matandaan model eh, kulay yellow cya, 4-piece), wala cyang rack pero nakafloat yung snare nya. Parang nakaattach dun sa gilid nung bass drum? May parang bakal cya na arm. Specialty hardware kaya yun and special bass drum lang un pwedeng gawing ganun? Kc if I look at my bass drum and if gusto ko ganun din, I think I'd have to drill some holes dun sa gilid ng bass drum ().



Eto bro un pic pala. Yamaha Hipgig pala.

[Riff_6603]

I see. Grabber Clamp pala tawag dun. So basically (based dun sa assumption ko by looking at the pics you provided, thanks btw), pwede ko cya iclamp sa cymbal stand, maybe sa ilalim nung pihitan nung stand? (Yung pinipihit if gusto mo taasan or babaan un cymbal). Thanks bro.

Dun sa "floating" snare, I've seen a Yamaha kit (di ko matandaan model eh, kulay yellow cya, 4-piece), wala cyang rack pero nakafloat yung snare nya. Parang nakaattach dun sa gilid nung bass drum? May parang bakal cya na arm. Specialty hardware kaya yun and special bass drum lang un pwedeng gawing ganun? Kc if I look at my bass drum and if gusto ko ganun din, I think I'd have to drill some holes dun sa gilid ng bass drum ().



Eto bro un pic pala. Yamaha Hipgig pala.

special feature ng hipgig yan since it's specifically made to be a compact setup altogether. for your current setup though, mas maganda kung "rack factory" style na lang ang gagawin mo, not just for the sake of having a floating snare stand but for the convenience of having better setup options as well. downside lang is magastos talaga. pero kung willing ka naman mag-modify ng set mo para mala-hipgig yung style pwede din naman!

[blindedfox]

Hehe oo nga. Kakatawag ko lang sa JB Music, ang mahal pala nung Gibraltar na rack hehe. Whew. Pero mukhang ok nga cya kc parang ndi ko na need ng maraming stands pag magpapalit na ako ng cymbals.

Yun bro para i-momodify cya para pwede kabitan ng floating snare sa gilid nung bass drum, do you think ok ba yun? Ndi kaya macompromise yung bass drum? magkaron ng running-crack or ma-deform? Kc di ba snare ung madalas paluin hehe. And since nakakabit cya sa gilid nung bass drum, ayun, tension sa pagkakakabit and all that..

pls avoid text speak. thanks!

[Riff_6603]

Hehe oo nga. Kakatawag ko lang sa JB Music, ang mahal pala nung Gibraltar na rack hehe. Whew. Pero mukhang ok nga cya kc parang ndi ko na need ng maraming stands pag magpapalit na ako ng cymbals.

Yun bro para i-momodify cya para pwede kabitan ng floating snare sa gilid nung bass drum, do you think ok ba yun? Ndi kaya macompromise yung bass drum? magkaron ng running-crack or ma-deform? Kc di ba snare ung madalas paluin hehe. And since nakakabit cya sa gilid nung bass drum, ayun, tension sa pagkakakabit and all that..

pls avoid text speak. thanks!

possible na magka-issues yung bass drum kaya mas reco ko talaga yung gibraltar rack setup. If you don't mind me asking, do you necessarily need to have a floating snare stand vs a regular snare stand? kasi mahal talaga ang ganung setup. may alternative option though c/o vhinming:


more info here:

DIY Drum Rack?
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,169567.0.html



 

[blindedfox]

If you don't mind me asking, do you necessarily need to have a floating snare stand vs a regular snare stand?

I don't know if it's an acceptable reason, pero kasi nasisikipan ako pag may stand un snare hehe. My uncle gave me his old doublebass drum pedal. And pag ikinabit ko sa drumkit ko, parang ang sikip saka un parang bar na nagcoconnect nung dalawang pedals is halos nakadikit na dun sa bar nung snare stand. Hehe. Kahit anung ayos ko, nasisikipan pa rin ako, so itinabi ko muna yung doublebass pedal at yung single pedal na lang kinabit ko hanggat ndi ko nagagawan ng paraan un space issue hehe. Or maybe masyado lang akong mareklamo sa space hehe. Para kasing mas maginhawa pag walang stand un snare hehe.

Check ko yung link bro. Mukhang maganda yung kay sir vhinming ah. Hmm..

[blindedfox]

I've been playing around lately with my drumkit setup these past few days. Isang taon pa lang ako halos lumipat from guitar to drums.
I saw sa net, yung setup na instead na nakahang yung tom sa cymbal stand (via Grabber arm, thanks sa ka-PM natin na nagpoint out sa akin
kung anong tawag sa hardware na yon), may sarili siyang snare stand??

OK ba yung ganitong setup mga brader?

[pedaldeaf3]

OK ba yung ganitong setup mga brader?

If your real goal & comfort is to have free space in drums...
Mag "No Leg Snare Clamp Option", "No Leg Hi-Hat" or both...
Just read the details on what Sir Riff posted about Gibraltar...

There so many detailed options sa drum hardware set-up...
Just use your imagination on what you want to do to your kit...
I'd do the same if I had the budget for all those options...

[Riff_6603]

I've been playing around lately with my drumkit setup these past few days. Isang taon pa lang ako halos lumipat from guitar to drums.
I saw sa net, yung setup na instead na nakahang yung tom sa cymbal stand (via Grabber arm, thanks sa ka-PM natin na nagpoint out sa akin
kung anong tawag sa hardware na yon), may sarili siyang snare stand??

OK ba yung ganitong setup mga brader?

ok din yung setup ng tom sa snare stand IMO kung yung bass drum mo is too big/tall for you to conveniently hit your tom if ever it's mounted sa mismong bass drum. some say it could improve the resonance, some just even go for it simply for the look. at the end of the day, as long as it makes your playing comfortable, then go for it!

[blindedfox]

ok din yung setup ng tom sa snare stand IMO kung yung bass drum mo is too big/tall for you to conveniently hit your tom if ever it's mounted sa mismong bass drum. some say it could improve the resonance, some just even go for it simply for the look. at the end of the day, as long as it makes your playing comfortable, then go for it!

Thanks boss! You've been really helpful. I'll make sure na mai-post ko dito yung kakahinatnan ng setup na ginagawa ko hehe. More power!

[SAITOHAJIME]

I don't know if it's an acceptable reason, pero kasi nasisikipan ako pag may stand un snare hehe. My uncle gave me his old doublebass drum pedal. And pag ikinabit ko sa drumkit ko, parang ang sikip saka un parang bar na nagcoconnect nung dalawang pedals is halos nakadikit na dun sa bar nung snare stand. Hehe. Kahit anung ayos ko, nasisikipan pa rin ako, so itinabi ko muna yung doublebass pedal at yung single pedal na lang kinabit ko hanggat ndi ko nagagawan ng paraan un space issue hehe. Or maybe masyado lang akong mareklamo sa space hehe. Para kasing mas maginhawa pag walang stand un snare hehe.

Brad, try mo tingnan ang setup ng ibang members dito specially yun may double pedals baka may makuha kang ideas.
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,17360.3675.html

A floating snare setup is not common for a personal drumkit. Personally, its "nice to have" pero not necessary.

[blindedfox]

Brad, try mo tingnan ang setup ng ibang members dito specially yun may double pedals baka may makuha kang ideas.
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,17360.3675.html

A floating snare setup is not common for a personal drumkit. Personally, its "nice to have" pero not necessary.

Thanks for the link boss! I think ang problem for me is I prefer yung placement ng hats ko is not too far from the snare drum. So yung pedal board nung hi-hat stand is malapit dun sa sa feet nung snare stand ko. So I thought I'd find a way to "remove" the feet of the snare stand to free up yung space para maisingit ko yung slave pedal nung double bass pedals. It's coming along pretty well thanks to the ideas you guys are telling me. Thanks so much.

(I actually bought another bass drum to experiment on. Generic lang naman so hindi masyado masakit sa bulsa hehe. I'll try to convert it like yung bassdrum nung Yamaha HipGig, yung may mount sa side for the "floating snare". If that doesn't work, I'll go with the "feetless" snare stand like dun sa picture na pinost ni boss riff.)

 

[SAITOHAJIME]

Thanks for the link boss! I think ang problem for me is I prefer yung placement ng hats ko is not too far from the snare drum. So yung pedal board nung hi-hat stand is malapit dun sa sa feet nung snare stand ko. So I thought I'd find a way to "remove" the feet of the snare stand to free up yung space para maisingit ko yung slave pedal nung double bass pedals. It's coming along pretty well thanks to the ideas you guys are telling me. Thanks so much.

(I actually bought another bass drum to experiment on. Generic lang naman so hindi masyado masakit sa bulsa hehe. I'll try to convert it like yung bassdrum nung Yamaha HipGig, yung may mount sa side for the "floating snare". If that doesn't work, I'll go with the "feetless" snare stand like dun sa picture na pinost ni boss riff.)

 

Meron hi-hat stand na 2 lang ang paa. Nakalimutan ko tawag dun. Ginawa yun para di masyadong masikip sa area ng left foot. Try researching on that, HTH