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Offline zrehtiek

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my slow fingers... how to shred?
« on: January 03, 2010, 01:24:12 PM »
pano po ba mag shred? kasi ambagal po ng daliri ko... di po ako makapag sweep and etc...
any tips? advice?

Offline riffscreamer

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2010, 01:25:16 PM »
pano po ba mag shred? kasi ambagal po ng daliri ko... di po ako makapag sweep and etc...
any tips? advice?

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2010, 01:27:16 PM »
pano po ba mag shred? kasi ambagal po ng daliri ko... di po ako makapag sweep and etc...
any tips? advice?

Practice with a metronome. Build up the accuracy in hitting notes. Speed will follow.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2010, 01:30:08 PM by cayle »

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2010, 01:27:29 PM »
- google some guitar lessons
- practice as often as you can
- don't give up

i can't shred but i'm doing those things i stated.  :-)
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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2010, 01:31:28 PM »
I heard the best advice was to practice


Offline SeafoodPancake

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2010, 01:37:11 PM »
PRACTICE lang dude.. And get a METRONOME for speed and accuracy.
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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2010, 01:43:51 PM »
hmm... metronome = muscle memory = accuracy = speed...
nagmemetronome na ko... still no speed...

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2010, 01:47:01 PM »
hmm... metronome = muscle memory = accuracy = speed...
nagmemetronome na ko... still no speed...

Speed will follow. Increase mo tempo once in a while, tapos try mo din ipush yung sarili mo into playing with a faster tempo than the usual mo na ginagamit.

Tom Hess FTW!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYjXQZQRZHQ

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« Last Edit: January 03, 2010, 01:48:55 PM by cayle »

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2010, 02:43:59 PM »
panahon kailangan para makuha mo yun. hindi lang months but years. :) metronome is ok, pero dapat never mag papasma, kasi one reason ng pag buhol at nginig ng fingers eh.
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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2010, 02:54:53 PM »
A Metronome is a BIG help for me. Pero ngayon, hindi ko na masyadong ma-appreciate ang shred, ewan ko ba. Mas feel ko ang blues, parang mas may emotion kasi dun eh. IMO lang naman.

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2010, 02:59:50 PM »
A Metronome is a BIG help for me. Pero ngayon, hindi ko na masyadong ma-appreciate ang shred, ewan ko ba. Mas feel ko ang blues, parang mas may emotion kasi dun eh. IMO lang naman.

ako din...Influenced by a lot of blues players... I'm a shred stick slinging blues kid.  :lol: minsan, i use fast runs to add a bit of flavor lang to my improvs..
« Last Edit: January 03, 2010, 03:03:16 PM by cayle »

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2010, 03:32:01 PM »
@TS

wag ka muna mag sweep, masyado pa advanced yun.

practice proper coordination lang. mag aral ka ng 3 note per string runs tapos iba-ibahin mo. kunyari 3 note per string pero quarter notes ang bilang instead of triplets.  :lol:

also look for the perfect pick, and the perfect picking angle for you.

youtube videos also help.

most of all, practice. 2-3 hours a day.  :-D

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2010, 03:43:56 PM »
change career  :evil:

haha joke...

watch Kristofer Dahl guitar lessons in guitarmasterclass.net
hehe he's  a good teacher and a funny man  :-D
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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2010, 03:44:58 PM »
change career  :evil:

haha joke...

watch Kristofer Dahl guitar lessons in guitarmasterclass.net
hehe he's  a good teacher and a funny man  :-D

Love his humor!  :lol: meron din siya free lessons sa UG at youtube.

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2010, 03:57:29 PM »
Love his humor!  :lol: meron din siya free lessons sa UG at youtube.

yeah! hindi ka tatamarin sa lessons niya kasi nagpapatawa siya habang nagtuturo :-D
I like his christmas guitar lesson,hanggang ngayon naapply ko padin ung licks na un sa playing ko :evil:
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Offline zrehtiek

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2010, 04:03:08 PM »
im not that much to shredding too but i just wanted to try it...

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2010, 04:45:22 PM »
sana makatulong kahit onti :)

1. keep in mind the economy of motion
       
       - start slow
       - moving your hands faster wont allow you to play really really fast
       - precise movements para efficient
       - economy picking
       - less is more

2. remain calm and don't get carried away

      - remaining calm will allow you to make precise movements
      - play with the least amount of tension

3. take your pick

     - most players who are into shredding prefer picks that are very thick or those jazz picks.
     - the guitar string should conform to the movement of your pick, not the other way around

playing near the bridge will cause the strings to vibrate faster (which will slightly aid in playing fast) unlike playing near the neck which will make the strings vibrate wider
« Last Edit: January 03, 2010, 04:48:29 PM by PacoSantos »

Offline zrehtiek

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2010, 05:05:57 PM »
sana makatulong kahit onti :)

1. keep in mind the economy of motion
       
       - start slow
       - moving your hands faster wont allow you to play really really fast
       - precise movements para efficient
       - economy picking
       - less is more

2. remain calm and don't get carried away

      - remaining calm will allow you to make precise movements
      - play with the least amount of tension

3. take your pick

     - most players who are into shredding prefer picks that are very thick or those jazz picks.
     - the guitar string should conform to the movement of your pick, not the other way around

playing near the bridge will cause the strings to vibrate faster (which will slightly aid in playing fast) unlike playing near the neck which will make the strings vibrate wider

thanks...  :-D

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2010, 05:23:32 PM »
speed is only a side effect. practice accuracy and precision. establish your comfort zone first then practice outside it.
labo no :lol: don't worry dude, with the right amount of practice, you'll only get better.
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Offline zisnarf_miranda

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2010, 05:55:27 PM »
practice! practice! practice! (i think i'm saying these to myself..lol)

muscle memory and time are the things you need to be able to shred on your guitar... and try to look for Jazz III picks... shred on!!!

ps: try learning economy and alternate picking (for your right hand)
     and just practice different kinds of scales with that and you are on your way...

METAL ON!!! :evil:

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2010, 07:12:14 PM »
practice! practice! practice! (i think i'm saying these to myself..lol)

muscle memory and time are the things you need to be able to shred on your guitar... and try to look for Jazz III picks... shred on!!!

ps: try learning economy and alternate picking (for your right hand)
     and just practice different kinds of scales with that and you are on your way...

METAL ON!!! :evil:

i use jazz III now...  :-P

Offline necron33

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2010, 11:13:03 PM »
master the alternate picking and economy picking with a metronome. thats your weapon to shred

Offline zisnarf_miranda

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2010, 11:25:59 PM »
i use jazz III now...  :-P

speaking of jazz III picks...i saw and bought some picks on a store (di ko na lang banggitin baka may magalit) last year and para silang fake... like "cut outs" from a piece of plastic (parang sa laruan...rough edges). i asked kung bakit ganun. sabi nung nagtitinda kahit sila nagtataka. may nakabili ba sa inyo ng ganito? good thing i have one or two na reserba na nabili ko like 2-3 years ago.

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2010, 02:04:31 AM »
palit ka ng mabilis na daliri.
(quick finger ang tawag.. ewan ko lang kun may available pa sa audiophile)





















































o kaya practice ka.. slow and easy till bumilis din yan eventually.. but remember to practice the right technique, not just the need for speed..























































ako? sa chix ako nagpapractice ng daliri e. ayun.. awa ng libog bumillis naman. gusto mo pakitaan kita ng shredding ala beerhouse? puro "ah ah" "oh oh" tsaka "yeah that's it!" ang tone na lumalabas e. :evil:
« Last Edit: January 04, 2010, 02:06:55 AM by burnthyfret »

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Re: my slow fingers... how to shred?
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2010, 04:18:12 AM »
from lessons i was taught the following things for efficient and fast picking:

-practice. muscle memory is key.
-dynamics. pay attention to how you pick and fret notes then practice the correct method for playing.
-study how your fretting hand plays notes and adjust so that you transition seamlessly from one note to the other or from one pattern to another if you are playing compound passages.
-play with a metronome and vary the speed so you ramp up in a given period of time.
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