SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread

[telramvuli]

salamat sa mga info about hhx hammering.

[telramvuli]

clearance sale sa yupangco til jan.31. nakabili ako ng 16"virgil donati saturation crash na parang bago pa for only 6k. best buy ko yung 10" aa rocktagon splash for only 1k! check it out! madami pang sale na best buy!

[skunkyfunk]

GUSTO KO NG 22" SABIAN ARTISAN RAW BELL RIDE!     

[incubus_boy08]

Sharing my Sabian pies. I love them all but sad to say i have to sell some. Need cash 



Sabian AA Rock Ride 20"
Sabian AA Metal-X Crash 18"
Sabian Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Evolution O-zone Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Chinese 18"
Sabian AAX Splash 10"
Sabian AAX Splash 8"
Sabian AAX Stage Hats 14"

[jake z]

Sharing my Sabian pies. I love them all but sad to say i have to sell some. Need cash 



Sabian AA Rock Ride 20"
Sabian AA Metal-X Crash 18"
Sabian Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Evolution O-zone Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Chinese 18"
Sabian AAX Splash 10"
Sabian AAX Splash 8"
Sabian AAX Stage Hats 14"

Why are you selling them bro? Naalala ko pa way back na matagal mo na acquire yang pies mo.
anyways, good luck.

[incubus_boy08]

Why are you selling them bro? Naalala ko pa way back na matagal mo na acquire yang pies mo.
anyways, good luck.

Need cash sir... Sana makabawi!

[cradleoflife212121]

question: pwede po bang pang wash yung 18" AAX Studio Crash? thank you po.

[pejadanza]

question: pwede po bang pang wash yung 18" AAX Studio Crash? thank you po.

pwede naman. thinner model to with small bell profile so may control ung waswaswaswash riding mo.


any crash naman siguro pede. depende siguro sa genre at volume ng tugtugan. say if nasa metal ka at AAX Studio Crash 18" gamitin mo mag wash ride, siguro lulubog sa mix at tendency paluin mu pa ng husto at mag crack. hehehe. pero if AAX plosion 18", mag cut siya. Pero if yung tipong alternative or genre na less volume ang tugtugan mu, siguro swak ung Studio Crash sa pag wash ride.

i wash all my cymbals---- nang suka. hehehe

 

[cradleoflife212121]

pwede naman. thinner model to with small bell profile so may control ung waswaswaswash riding mo.


any crash naman siguro pede. depende siguro sa genre at volume ng tugtugan. say if nasa metal ka at AAX Studio Crash 18" gamitin mo mag wash ride, siguro lulubog sa mix at tendency paluin mu pa ng husto at mag crack. hehehe. pero if AAX plosion 18", mag cut siya. Pero if yung tipong alternative or genre na less volume ang tugtugan mu, siguro swak ung Studio Crash sa pag wash ride.

i wash all my cymbals---- nang suka. hehehe

thank you po sir. i guess hanap pa ako ng iba. nagtitingin po kasi ako ng pwedeng pang wash riding na bagay sa metal.

[gamerJake7]

Sharing my Sabian pies. I love them all but sad to say i have to sell some. Need cash 



Sabian AA Rock Ride 20"
Sabian AA Metal-X Crash 18"
Sabian Xs20 Medium Thin Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Evolution O-zone Crash 18"
Sabian HHX Chinese 18"
Sabian AAX Splash 10"
Sabian AAX Splash 8"
Sabian AAX Stage Hats 14"

alin dyan sir sa mga cymbals mo ang bnebenta moh? hehe. pde b ung ozone or china? mgkano sir? hehe.

[incubus_boy08]

alin dyan sir sa mga cymbals mo ang bnebenta moh? hehe. pde b ung ozone or china? mgkano sir? hehe.

Nag-PM na ko sayo sir check your inbox hehe...

[ciwiaf]

question lang po, sorry kung natanong na to before, di ko makita dito sa thread eh, anyway,
ano po ba pinagkaiba ng B8 performance set sa B8 Pro? sale kasi sa yamaha, balak ko bumili
pasok kasi sa budget, beginner palang ako almost 1 month palang nag ddrums hehe, gusto ko
lang palitan yung stock na fernando cymbals, parang kaldero kasi haha..

thanks

[incubus_boy08]

question lang po, sorry kung natanong na to before, di ko makita dito sa thread eh, anyway,
ano po ba pinagkaiba ng B8 performance set sa B8 Pro? sale kasi sa yamaha, balak ko bumili
pasok kasi sa budget, beginner palang ako almost 1 month palang nag ddrums hehe, gusto ko
lang palitan yung stock na fernando cymbals, parang kaldero kasi haha..

thanks

Well according ang nakikita ko lang difference nila is with the finish. B8 is natural while B8 Pro is brilliant finish according sa Sabian website.

[jho@yahoo.com]

@ sir. ciwiaf:
 sir. san pong yamaha may sale na sabian cymbals! pa share naman po, balak ko kasing bumili. Thanks in advance!

[jake z]

aside from the finish, b8pro's are brighter than b8's.

[ciwiaf]

Ah ganun ba, thanks sa mga reply! 

Sa SM Megamall po yung may sale, till april 30 ata

[DBG]

Mga kapatid. I was just wondering kung authentic ba itong mga pies na to. Kakaiba kasi yung itchura eh. Parang hindi naman ganito ang AAX. Logos palang nakakaintriga na! Take note yung print na "Stage Ride" dun sa ride na binebenta niya, it's not the same dun sa pic sinearch ko sa google. And he's selling his items way way cheaper. Parang hindi naman realistic at may libre pang cymbal bags? Suuuspiciouss!    

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/11543349/Sabian+AAX+4+pcs+Cymbals+all+Brand+NEW+10%2C500k+na+lang?referralKeywords=cymbals&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-2,2#advertisementDetails


Eto yung link sa pic ng AAX stage hats sa google.

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Sabian-AAX-20-Stage-Ride---Brilliant-finish-P3926C479.aspx

 

[reinramirez]

Mga kapatid. I was just wondering kung authentic ba itong mga pies na to. Kakaiba kasi yung itchura eh. Parang hindi naman ganito ang AAX. Logos palang nakakaintriga na! Take note yung print na "Stage Ride" dun sa ride na binebenta niya, it's not the same dun sa pic sinearch ko sa google. And he's selling his items way way cheaper. Parang hindi naman realistic at may libre pang cymbal bags? Suuuspiciouss!    

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/11543349/Sabian+AAX+4+pcs+Cymbals+all+Brand+NEW+10%2C500k+na+lang?referralKeywords=cymbals&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-2,2#advertisementDetails


Eto yung link sa pic ng AAX stage hats sa google.

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Sabian-AAX-20-Stage-Ride---Brilliant-finish-P3926C479.aspx

 

"if it is too good to be true, it probably is" lol not sure kung tama, pero para sa AAX (which is a professional cymbal) eh masyado yan mura(mas mababa pa sa beginner cymbals)

ito pala, nakalimutan ko na kung san ko nakuha pero makakatulong to, dahil dito kaya nag hold back ako bumili ng beginner at intermediate cymbal.

I see a lot of threads about people asking for cymbal recommendations, so I thought it would be a good idea to make sort of a template as a centralized resource where people can gather information and then ask questions from there. I figured it'd be easier than completely starting from scratch. I'll start off with a brief description of each class of cymbal and then proceed to the different upgrade options afterwards. So without further ado, here we go.

===Stock cymbals===
These are the brass discs you generally get stuck with when you buy a beginner shell pack. The only thing about them that remotely resembles a cymbal is it's shape. Avoid these at all costs.

===Beginner cymbals===
Sheet bronze cymbals are your basic entry level cymbals. They're geared towards beginner drummers who want something better than the previously mentioned stock cymbals. Being made of B8, they have a bright, cutting sound, and are very reasonably priced for aspiring drummers, as well as people who want to experiment with some new sounds without killing their bank account. Why are they so (comparably) inexpensive? They are made by taking a big sheet of bronze and stamping the cymbals out of the sheet like a cookie cutter. Every cymbal is just a copy of the next, which keeps costs down. Here are some examples of beginner cymbals:

ZBT/ZXT (Zildjian): Both are in a brilliant finish.

B8/B8 Pro (Sabian): B8's are in a traditional finish, B8 Pro's are brilliant.

PST5 (Paiste): Natural finish.

===Intermediate cymbals===
Intermediate cymbals fall in between beginner and pro level cymbals. They have some more individual attention paid to them and/or different metals, which raises their quality level. They aren't as cut and dry as beginner sheet cymbals, which allows for some more variety and choice when selecting this level. Here are some examples of intermediate cymbals:

ZHT (Zildjian): Made of B12 bronze. B12 is a good middle point between B8 and B20 (cast) cymbals. It has a warmer sound than B8, but not as warm as B20.

XS20 (Sabian): Intermediate cymbals made of B20 bronze. They are the only full line of cast cymbals offered at such a low price point. They're made the same way as professional cast cymbals, but they aren't hammered. Less work to make them means less money you have to spend on them.

Alpha (Paiste): Intermediate/Semi pro cymbals made of B8. They're basically PST5's with more attention paid to them.

New Traditional (Wuhan): And you thought Wuhan only made chinas. Nope! They have an extensive line of professional quality B20 cymbals at a fraction of the cost, fitting them perfectly into this category.

===Professional (cast) cymbals===
Cast cymbals are what dreams are made of in a drummers world. Each cymbal is made through an individual process of hammering and lathing, giving each cymbal a more unique sound (albeit, some more than others). B20 is generally a warm, middle of the road sounding cymbal, but how it's worked on ultimately defines its sound. Of course, with individual attention comes a higher price point. Something to keep in mind when searching for a new sound. Here are some examples of cast cymbals:

A/A Custom (Zildjian): These cymbals offer a wonderful bright while still maintaining nice warm undertones. These are usually the go to cymbals for people looking to upgrade.

K/K Custom (Zildjian): Very dark and dry cymbals. They're hammered more than the A/A Customs, which gives them their darker sound.

AA/AAX (Sabian): These are Sabian's vintage and modern bright cymbal lines, respectively.

HH/HHX (Sabian): These are Sabian's vintage and modern dark cymbal lines, respectively. They are one of the few lines from a major company that still incorporates hand hammering in the process.

2002 (Paiste): While made of B8 bronze as opposed to B20, these are still just as much a professional cymbal as the cast lines. They stand out more in terms of sound when compared to Sabian and Zildjian's lines, which sound more similar.

Upgrade paths
This is where I think most of you would come in. Here are some different upgrade paths and an explanation of why they work or don't work.

Stock cymbals>Beginner cymbals
If you've been playing on stock cymbals and want something more real to play, you should try to avoid buying a beginner pack unless you're on a budget. In this case, you would want to go for an intermediate line.

Stock cymbals>Intermediate cymbals
This is a better path to go down as opposed to buying beginner stuff. XS20's and New Traditional's are great values and will be able to hold you over for quite some time until you're ready to move forward to cast cymbals.

Beginner cymbals>Intermediate cymbals
This is very rarely recommended unless you're on a budget. Going from ZBT's to ZHT's won't yield very many results. In a case like this, you'd want to look into XS20's or New Traditional's since they are a cut above the rest in terms of quality. But this really only happens if you're on a tight budget and can't afford to go into the pro line.

Beginner cymbals>Professional cymbals
This is generally the best path to go down. Once you feel you've had enough of your entry level stuff and you want to upgrade, you should really look into cast cymbals. Visit your local music shop and/or listen to sound samples online to find the sound you want. There's also a huge market on Craigslist and eBay for used cymbals, so you can find the cymbals you want at a price you can afford.

Intermediate cymbals>Professional cymbals
This one's pretty self explanatory. A good intermediate line can hold you over for quite a while, but you'll know where to go when the time comes.

In the end, it all comes down to the sound you're looking for. But I figured this would be a good starting place for people looking for cymbal upgrade info. Feel free to add on any information you'd like and thanks for reading

and then there is the "second hand professional cymbals", iwas lang ako bumili sa mga ayaw magpatesting sa lugar nila.

[gss]

Mga kapatid. I was just wondering kung authentic ba itong mga pies na to. ...
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/11543349/Sabian+AAX+4+pcs+Cymbals+all+Brand+NEW+10%2C500k+na+lang?referralKeywords=cymbals&event=Search+Ranking,Position,1-2,2#advertisementDetails


Eto yung link sa pic ng AAX stage hats sa google.

http://www.drumcityguitarland.com/drumcitygl/stores/1/Sabian-AAX-20-Stage-Ride---Brilliant-finish-P3926C479.aspx

 

no they're not.

[DBG]

Oh well. Kung hindi pala legit yung ulupong na nagbebenta sa sulit, sunugin na natin siya ng buhay bago pa makapanloko ng mga fellow drummers! 

[incubus_boy08]

Actually dami nagkalat sa raon ng fake Sabian AAX na yan. Brass ata sya kundi ako nagkakamali at hindi B8 bronze

[iplaydrums4u]

^may kumakalat pang istorya ngayon na made in Canada daw yang "class A" na yan. haha 

[incubus_boy08]

^may kumakalat pang istorya ngayon na made in Canada daw yang "class A" na yan. haha 

Waw sino naman kaya ang nagsimula ng kwento nyan?

Kung made in Canada yung class A, e san pa kaya made yung mga tunay na Sabian pies? 

[DBG]

Waw sino naman kaya ang nagsimula ng kwento nyan?

Kung made in Canada yung class A, e san pa kaya made yung mga tunay na Sabian pies? 

Sa Canada ang main factory ng Sabian pies, so that means sila rin ang gumagawa ng mga Class A na nabibili sa raon?  Luhh.

[incubus_boy08]

Sa Canada ang main factory ng Sabian pies, so that means sila rin ang gumagawa ng mga Class A na nabibili sa raon?  Luhh.

Killing their own business haha!