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« Reply #425 on: June 23, 2010, 07:07:22 AM »
It was George Harrison who talked to John and Paul to fire Pete. This was even before they secured their contract with Parlophone/EMI. Their last tour in Hamburg even before their EMI audition, this was already in the works.

George Martin's suggestion to replace Pete was only a nail in the coffin. On the band's EMI audition, they were about to fire Pete one way or the other.

Rock bands at that time were considered Rank Amateurs by the recording industry and taunted as incompetent musicians. It has to be said that majority of rock recordings at that time were still played by session musicians and rock bands have to play only on their live performances. A lot of major labels were even reluctant to sign rock bands. The last major company to sign a rock band was CBS (Columbia, Epic) -now known as Sony Music Entertainment since 1991 and merged with BMG in 2005- their first rock band signed to CBS was Paul Revere and the Raiders (a few months before the Byrds). Mitch Miller was the major force for CBS's refusal to sign a rock band. Mitch Miller was then an enemy of rock and roll.

Back to the Beatles. There are two very different versions why Andy White sat in with the Beatles for the recording of Love Me Do. One was that George Martin was not satisfied with Ringo's drumming and so he called Andy White to re-record Love Me Do. The other one (and this was the version most used by the Beatles) is that George Martin was not aware that they had replaced Pete Best and when it was Ringo's time to visit EMI Studios, Andy White was waiting for them precisely because George Martin was not pleased with Pete's drumming.

Now analyzing all the facts presented we now refer to another point of reference - the recording dates! Pete Best version was recorded June 6, 1962 (Steve Vai's second birthday!), Ringo's version was on September 4th and Andy White's version was on September 12th. These facts can be consulted on Mark Lewisohn's book The Beatles Recording Sessions.

The Question here is : who IS telling the truth? If facts that are documented are to be consulted (the recording sheets of EMI don't lie), we can then say that George Martin has the more credible explanation. Now I would not leave anything to suspicion here that the rest of the Beatles are trying to put up a false bravado on Ringo but the best possible reconciliatory action here is that Ringo and Andy's version were both given official EMI releases.

The Andy White version is the most common version we hear today. You can find that in the Please Please Me album and the red 1962-1966 compilation. In this September 11 version (39 years before the World Trade Center tragedy) Ringo was playing tambourine, George Martin felt sorry for Ringo (probably he felt it when Ringo projected his famous sullen frown).

The Ringo version is apparently the more popular version in UK. This was the version heard on the single release although later reissues of the single in UK was replaced by the Andy White version during the 70s. This Ringo version appeared in US for the first time on the US version of the album "Rarities" (also known for having the Butcher photo on the inside of the gatefold sleeve) and 8 years later on the Past Masters version - which by that time the whole world was able to hear the Ringo version for the first time especially people born in the 70s (like me).

If you guys want to hear the 3 Love Me Do versions with Pete Best, Andy White and Ringo, I suggest you buy the Anthology 1 and Past Masters volume 1 cds. To those who have the equipment and more spendable income, find the vinyl version of both titles (I am still looking for the vinyl version of Past Masters though I have the complete Anthology on vinyl).

Too bad for Pete.. parang excess baggage na kasi sya. Ringo is better than best :wink: After firing him, there wasn't too much news about Peter Best anymore..

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« Reply #426 on: June 23, 2010, 09:44:40 AM »
Too bad for Pete.. parang excess baggage na kasi sya. Ringo is better than best :wink: After firing him, there wasn't too much news about Peter Best anymore..

It was very difficult for everyone concerned. Difficult for the Beatles because though they began to dislike his attitude and professionalism, they are afraid of the repercussions if the people find out that Pete was fired (Pete Best being the most popular member of the band - same thing when Ringo joined the band, he has the most fan mail). That repercussion culminated when someone punched George Harrison after their set at the Cavern - the very next day, they were to have their first recording session at EMI with Ringo. Photos of that session clearly reveals George's black eye.

It was difficult for Brian Epstein because the other three assigned him to tell Pete the bad news.

It was difficult for road manager and official driver Neil Aspinall because he was Pete Best's best friend (no pun intended) and Neil was the boyfriend of Pete's mother - Mona Best. Neil had to swallow hard upon learning the news. With deep thought, he decided to stay with the Beatles, and he became the band's most trusted ally next to Brian Epstein.

To this day, there are still loyal Beatles fans that claim that Pete Best was THE Beatles drummer and Ringo was the catalyst for the band's sellout.
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« Reply #427 on: June 23, 2010, 10:51:30 AM »
Another reason yata that he was fired from the group ay dahil ayaw nyang sumunod sa bagong porma ng beatles (hairdo & formal clothes). Gusto nyang mag-stick sa leather jacket at 50's rock & roll hairdo. Nung nagpe-perform daw ang Beatles sa Cavern with the new drummer Ringo, there were fans na may mga placard na nakasulat "Pete Forever, Ringo Never".

Nagform ng bagong band si Pete Best after he was fired, according to wikipedia. And after lumabas ng Anthology Album, dun lang sya nabayaran ng royalty.
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« Reply #428 on: June 23, 2010, 03:06:33 PM »

My heart was pinched seeing Pete Best whispering to the TV host in one of rare appearances that he is the fifth Beatle. Thereafter wala na rin ata silang(John, Paul & George) communication with him.

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« Reply #429 on: June 23, 2010, 10:07:40 PM »

Was Pete Best on the Beatles mind to replace Ringo when he(Ringo) got his tonsils removed during the Australia Tour? Jimmy Nichols came in, out from nowhere I guess :wink:


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« Reply #430 on: June 23, 2010, 11:22:48 PM »
Was Pete Best on the Beatles mind to replace Ringo when he(Ringo) got his tonsils removed during the Australia Tour? Jimmy Nichols came in, out from nowhere I guess :wink:

Jimmie Nicol was the immediate replacement that George Martin had in mind. Martin had produced a Tommy Quickly recording with Nicol as the drummer. Also, there were series of Beatles cover recordings released by low budget record labels (deceiving people as Beatles albums but instead were covers) and most of the time, Jimmie Nicol was the drummer so he knew the band's catalog very well. Everything happened so fast: Ringo was hospitalized, the Beatles had a tour in Australia the next day, band was in disarray, George Martin called Jimmie to come down to Abbey Road thereby stopping any agenda for a recording and instead became an emergency rehearsal, George Harrison protested saying he did not want to go Down Under without Ringo and asked for a reliever likewise, John-Paul-George Martin-Brian-Neil and Mal persuaded George to reconsider and he relented.

Jimmie was a Beatle for 2 weeks and was allegedly paid L2,500.00 per show. When Ringo returned Jimmie left the Beatles while they were still sleeping having no time to say goodbye and thank you to them because his flight was at dawn. Instead Brian Epstein gave Jimmie L500.00 more and am EternaMatic wrist watch with an inscription of thanks from the band and Epstein.

But what could have been a career boost for Nicol instead became his downfall, his last gasp of fame came when Dave Clark became ill and Jimmie subbed for him for a season in Blackpool. After that, he returned to his original group the Shubdubs but had no hits, joined the Spotnicks in 1965. Declared bankruptcy in late 1965. And quit showbiz altogether in the late '60s to become a carpenter. He is now a recluse in London.

They DID have an idea of calling Pete Best but he has his group then and there was too much bad blood about his sacking. Also, this might give a false idea to the fans that Ringo was permanently fired and rehired Best.
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« Reply #431 on: June 24, 2010, 07:26:21 AM »
Jimmie Nicol was the immediate replacement that George Martin had in mind. Martin had produced a Tommy Quickly recording with Nicol as the drummer. Also, there were series of Beatles cover recordings released by low budget record labels (deceiving people as Beatles albums but instead were covers) and most of the time, Jimmie Nicol was the drummer so he knew the band's catalog very well. Everything happened so fast: Ringo was hospitalized, the Beatles had a tour in Australia the next day, band was in disarray, George Martin called Jimmie to come down to Abbey Road thereby stopping any agenda for a recording and instead became an emergency rehearsal, George Harrison protested saying he did not want to go Down Under without Ringo and asked for a reliever likewise, John-Paul-George Martin-Brian-Neil and Mal persuaded George to reconsider and he relented.

Jimmie was a Beatle for 2 weeks and was allegedly paid L2,500.00 per show. When Ringo returned Jimmie left the Beatles while they were still sleeping having no time to say goodbye and thank you to them because his flight was at dawn. Instead Brian Epstein gave Jimmie L500.00 more and am EternaMatic wrist watch with an inscription of thanks from the band and Epstein.

But what could have been a career boost for Nicol instead became his downfall, his last gasp of fame came when Dave Clark became ill and Jimmie subbed for him for a season in Blackpool. After that, he returned to his original group the Shubdubs but had no hits, joined the Spotnicks in 1965. Declared bankruptcy in late 1965. And quit showbiz altogether in the late '60s to become a carpenter. He is now a recluse in London.

They DID have an idea of calling Pete Best but he has his group then and there was too much bad blood about his sacking. Also, this might give a false idea to the fans that Ringo was permanently fired and rehired Best.

Thanks a lot Bryan. :-)It's highly probable this is the true reason. So getting Jimmie Nicol instead of Peter Best for Ringo's temporary replacement was a wise decision because Ringo might get offended too. He was even thinking if the three (3) Beatles still love him that time then because he was replaced. Anyway, per history Ringo followed them in Australia on the remaining dates of the Tour and was warmly welcomed by John, Paul & George as well as the fans. :wink:

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« Reply #432 on: June 25, 2010, 10:07:48 AM »
Another reason yata that he was fired from the group ay dahil ayaw nyang sumunod sa bagong porma ng beatles (hairdo & formal clothes). Gusto nyang mag-stick sa leather jacket at 50's rock & roll hairdo. Nung nagpe-perform daw ang Beatles sa Cavern with the new drummer Ringo, there were fans na may mga placard na nakasulat "Pete Forever, Ringo Never".
Nagform ng bagong band si Pete Best after he was fired, according to wikipedia. And after lumabas ng Anthology Album, dun lang sya nabayaran ng royalty.

napanood ko ata ito sa The Dawn of the Silver Beatles.

Meron po ba dito sa atin may pictures ng Abbey Road, yong pabalik naman sila at naka sandals na si Paul?


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« Reply #433 on: June 26, 2010, 12:05:12 AM »
The following Beatles recordings have NO true stereo versions:
1. Love Me Do (both the Andy White and Ringo Starr versions were recorded direct to 2-track tape)
2. P.S. I Love You
3. She Loves You
4. I'll Get You

up until these 4 songs, once they are released on records, the master tape was either reused or discarded. If one looks at the Please Please me album, the first two songs above were in their fake stereo mix. The master tape for them while the album is being prepared were already discarded. So since then the only master tape remaining in the EMI vaults where the fake stereo Andy White version. Subsequent reissues were prepared using pristine mint condition vinyl from private record collectors.

To date, there is an argument as to whether Sie Liebt Dich used the same backing track as the original She Loves You. The obvious argument and documentation is that the Beatles re-recorded the entire backing track in France for the German version. To a casual listener, this argument is very very believable. But there are some dedicated Beatles fans who dare to question the authenticity of this argument as someone was able to find the original backing track of the original recording of She Loves You on that very same French studio in which Sie Liebt Dich was recorded.

I cannot give any credence to the latter argument because I myself has not seen any apparent evidence proving it. If anyone can show the public the backing track or the two track master tape of She Loves You, they should have presented that to EMI as they were preparing for the 2009 remastered box set. Until now, the abovementioned 4 songs will forever remain in mono and fake stereo.

How about The German Version of I Want To Hold Your Hand kaya?

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« Reply #434 on: June 26, 2010, 12:26:59 AM »
How about The German Version of I Want To Hold Your Hand kaya?

No problem on that one. Komm Gibb Mir Deine Hand used the original backing track as I Want To Hold Your Hand. And there is a stereo version of this.

Sie Liebt Dich has a stereo version, only the fact is (so far) is that complete re-recording ito, rhythm tracks and all.
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« Reply #435 on: June 26, 2010, 02:33:30 PM »
No problem on that one. Komm Gibb Mir Deine Hand used the original backing track as I Want To Hold Your Hand. And there is a stereo version of this.

Sie Liebt Dich has a stereo version, only the fact is (so far) is that complete re-recording ito, rhythm tracks and all.

sir may Bootleg German version ng Get Back.. totoong German version kaya yon? di rin kasi me nakakaintindi ng german e, para nilalaro rin lang kasi ni Paul ang lyrics

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« Reply #436 on: June 27, 2010, 07:46:42 AM »
Another reason yata that he was fired from the group ay dahil ayaw nyang sumunod sa bagong porma ng beatles (hairdo & formal clothes). Gusto nyang mag-stick sa leather jacket at 50's rock & roll hairdo. Nung nagpe-perform daw ang Beatles sa Cavern with the new drummer Ringo, there were fans na may mga placard na nakasulat "Pete Forever, Ringo Never".

Nagform ng bagong band si Pete Best after he was fired, according to wikipedia. And after lumabas ng Anthology Album, dun lang sya nabayaran ng royalty.

Lately meron din Pete Best Band. madami sa you tube. may mga cover sila ng Beatles bro

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« Reply #437 on: June 27, 2010, 04:15:36 PM »
I have a DVD with the version of the stories geared towards Pete Best.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #438 on: June 27, 2010, 11:33:01 PM »
An article by Lambert Ramirez:

About forty years ago, The Beatles landed in the Philippines from Tokyo for a two-concert stop. But what was anticipated to be The Beatles' second biggest concert ever became a dark spot in the group's history. Just exactly what happened on those fateful days remain confusing to many. Was it simply a case of miscommunication, lack of communication, false assumptions, opportunism? Whatever, the Philippine experience became one of the last nails on The Beatles' touring coffin as Neil Aspi¬nall, a very close Beatle associate, put it.
The Manila concert was the last leg in the fab four's two-week tour of Germany and Japan. On July 3, 1966, The Beatles landed on Philippine soil for the first and last time. This two-night stopover in Manila proved disastrous from arrival to departure. Upon landing, The Beatles were immediately whisked to a pier and put on Marina, a yacht owned by Don Manolo Elizalde, two miles from the port. This arrangement completely cut The Beatles from their associates for at least two hours— the first time it ever happened.
On July 4, The Beatles held two soldout concerts at the Rizal Memorial Football Stadium with a combined attendance of 80,000; the evening concert registered 50,000 paying audience, being rivaled only in size by the concert The Beatles gave at Shea Stadium in New York on August 15, 1965. Such record-making statistic though was supplanted by the succeeding events owing to a fiasco that happened earlier in the day.
The Beatles' alleged snub of then-First Lady Imelda Marcos remains hazy to many Beatles fans. Even reliable sources maintain conflicting accounts.
The common story goes this way.
On July 4, a lunch was set at Malacañang Palace at 11 a.m. with 300 children waiting to see The Beatles. An hour before the party, a delegation came to the Manila Hotel to collect The Beatles. Brian Epstein, The Beatles' manager, declined the invitation on the grounds that no earlier arrangement had been made and The Beatles were still in bed.
The day's scheduled concerts, however, later proceeded successfully. In between concerts, local televisions reported the alleged "snub" showing footages of children, some crying, disappointed by The Beatles. Epstein watched in horror and went immediately to the television studio to apologize and set the facts straight. But barely had he started reading his press statement when the transmission blipped.
Newspapers carried the headline, "Beatles Snub President." The following morning was the scheduled departure of The Beatles to New Delhi. Suddenly, The Beatles and their entourage realized they were practically on their own without any help: Room and transportation services were withdrawn. In the airport, the whole Beatles entourage was manhandled as it made its way to the plane.
Tony Barrow, the tour's publicity man and part of the entourage, claimed that Epstein received the invitation the night before the concerts but remained noncommittal. Whether it was wise for the local promoter to take this silence as approval is now moot.
Bill Harry, in his book The Ultimate Beatles Encyclopedia, acknowledges the existence of an invitation from Ramon Ramos, the local promoter, for The Beatles to pay a courtesy call on the First Lady, but it was slated for 3 p.m. of July 4, an hour before The Beatles' scheduled afternoon concert. Ramos did not pursue this invitation, since The Beatles wanted to be in the concert location two hours before the set. Nor did he inform anyone in Malacañang about this. A further mixup in schedule emerged when the Palace set the meeting at 11 a.m. as reported in The Manila Times on July 3. Whether anyone went out of his way to settle the matter, and what transpired in this effort, if any, remains unknown.
Peter Brown, the executive director of NEMS Enterprises (The Beatles' Vic Lewis, the tour agent, received the invitation while still in Tokyo but failed to relay this to him.
What is interesting about Brown’s account though was the call Epstein received, immediately after his refusal, from the British ambassador, who advised him against missing the party of the First Lady, and reminded him that the help and protection they were receiving in Manila was courtesy of the President. Epstein stood by his decision. Whether The Beatles would have come to the party even if Epstein recalled his decision is another question though.
UNKNOWN to many, almost 40 years ago on July 4, 1966, The Beatles made history in Manila. They played twice to the biggest paying crowd in a single day in Manila with at least a combined audience of 80,000 in attendance, unmatched anywhere in the band’s touring history.
At 4:00 p.m. that day, The Beatles launched their first gig before a delighted crowd of 30,000 at the Rizal Memorial Football Stadium, yet unaware of the ugly events that awaited them owing to their inadvertent failure to show up at a luncheon party for them in Malacañang.
Four hours later, The Beatles returned to the same place for their second and last concert in Manila, this time to a crowd of 50,000. The latter, grossly ignored by many to this day, is The Beatles’ second-biggest concert attendance in history, surpassed only by their concert at the Shea Stadium in New York in August of 1965.
All in all, the Beatles performed 11 songs in their Manila con-certs. They opened with the Chuck Berry original Rock and Roll Music and followed it up with 10 original Beatles compositions: “She’s a Woman,” “If I Needed Someone,” “Day Tripper,” “Baby’s in Black,” “I Feel Fine,” “Yesterday,” “I Wanna be Your Man,” “Nowhere Man,” “Paperback Writer” and “I’m Down.”
This repertoire of less than a dozen songs basically went unchanged throughout the Beatles’ tour of Germany, Japan and Manila. In fact, the Beatles performed the same standard set when they toured the United States for the last time in August 1966, a month after the “Manila nightmare.”
From time to time, The Beatles deviated from this set by taking on “Long Tally Sally” instead of “I’m Down” as closing climax. On few occasions, they played both. Encore performances were probably not yet in vogue then, because whenever Paul introduced the last song with the line “Our next number will be our last number . . . ”, it was indeed the end of the show. Straight from the platform, The Beatles, as a rule, proceeded immediately to a waiting car parked nearby for a swift exit from the concert arena.
A recording of The Beatles’ concert here in Manila has yet to surface, if any. We listened to their last ever concert to a paying audience in Candlestick Park in San Francisco on August 29, 1966, and it carried the same standard repertoire. The whole concert clocked around 30 minutes, including the adlibs. By today’s standards, this is way too short. For example, Paul McCartney’s 3,000th gig in St. Petersburg on June 20, 2004, reportedly lasted for two and a half hours despite the threat of a downpour.
If anything, the concert in Manila proved that The Beatles were at the height of their success. One member of the audience present in this historical concert, a nine-year-old boy at the time, posted a comment in a website devoted to The Beatles back in 1999. He remembers that he was one of the spectators along with his two other older brothers. He said The Beatles looked too small as he and his brothers were seated in a more distant section from the stage and their singing could hardly be heard as their vocals were drowned by the screaming of fans.
Some of our best artists fronted for The Beatles in these concerts. They included Eddie Reyes and D’Downbeats (with the D’Cavalcade Dancers), Dale Adriatico, Wing Duo, Pilita Corrales, Lemons Three, Quartet (accompanied by Pilita Corrales and The Lemmons Three) and The Reycard Duet.
Based on the photos available on the Internet, the cost of a grandstand ringside ticket then was P30, while a field reserved ticket had a tag price of P20. Gate receipts from the two concerts totaled $100,000.
Despite the bitter experience that The Beatles and their entourage experienced at the hands of airport security personnel when they left the country, they did not leave without posting yet another milestone in their touring history with their Manila concerts.
By Lambert Ramirez

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« Reply #439 on: June 28, 2010, 05:17:57 PM »


Just wanna share, according to this movie, it was Forrest Gump who gave Lennon the idea for the lyrics of Imagine.  :-D

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« Reply #440 on: June 28, 2010, 05:54:06 PM »
An article by Lambert Ramirez:

About forty years ago, The Beatles landed in the Philippines from Tokyo for a two-concert stop. But what was anticipated to be The Beatles' second biggest concert ever became a dark spot in the group's history. Just exactly what happened on those fateful days remain confusing to many. Was it simply a case of miscommunication, lack of communication, false assumptions, opportunism? Whatever, the Philippine experience became one of the last nails on The Beatles' touring coffin as Neil Aspi¬nall, a very close Beatle associate, put it.
The Manila concert was the last leg in the fab four's two-week tour of Germany and Japan. On July 3, 1966, The Beatles landed on Philippine soil for the first and last time. This two-night stopover in Manila proved disastrous from arrival to departure. Upon landing, The Beatles were immediately whisked to a pier and put on Marina, a yacht owned by Don Manolo Elizalde, two miles from the port. This arrangement completely cut The Beatles from their associates for at least two hours— the first time it ever happened.
On July 4, The Beatles held two soldout concerts at the Rizal Memorial Football Stadium with a combined attendance of 80,000; the evening concert registered 50,000 paying audience, being rivaled only in size by the concert The Beatles gave at Shea Stadium in New York on August 15, 1965. Such record-making statistic though was supplanted by the succeeding events owing to a fiasco that happened earlier in the day.
The Beatles' alleged snub of then-First Lady Imelda Marcos remains hazy to many Beatles fans. Even reliable sources maintain conflicting accounts.
The common story goes this way.
On July 4, a lunch was set at Malacañang Palace at 11 a.m. with 300 children waiting to see The Beatles. An hour before the party, a delegation came to the Manila Hotel to collect The Beatles. Brian Epstein, The Beatles' manager, declined the invitation on the grounds that no earlier arrangement had been made and The Beatles were still in bed.
The day's scheduled concerts, however, later proceeded successfully. In between concerts, local televisions reported the alleged "snub" showing footages of children, some crying, disappointed by The Beatles. Epstein watched in horror and went immediately to the television studio to apologize and set the facts straight. But barely had he started reading his press statement when the transmission blipped.
Newspapers carried the headline, "Beatles Snub President." The following morning was the scheduled departure of The Beatles to New Delhi. Suddenly, The Beatles and their entourage realized they were practically on their own without any help: Room and transportation services were withdrawn. In the airport, the whole Beatles entourage was manhandled as it made its way to the plane.
Tony Barrow, the tour's publicity man and part of the entourage, claimed that Epstein received the invitation the night before the concerts but remained noncommittal. Whether it was wise for the local promoter to take this silence as approval is now moot.
Bill Harry, in his book The Ultimate Beatles Encyclopedia, acknowledges the existence of an invitation from Ramon Ramos, the local promoter, for The Beatles to pay a courtesy call on the First Lady, but it was slated for 3 p.m. of July 4, an hour before The Beatles' scheduled afternoon concert. Ramos did not pursue this invitation, since The Beatles wanted to be in the concert location two hours before the set. Nor did he inform anyone in Malacañang about this. A further mixup in schedule emerged when the Palace set the meeting at 11 a.m. as reported in The Manila Times on July 3. Whether anyone went out of his way to settle the matter, and what transpired in this effort, if any, remains unknown.
Peter Brown, the executive director of NEMS Enterprises (The Beatles' Vic Lewis, the tour agent, received the invitation while still in Tokyo but failed to relay this to him.
What is interesting about Brown’s account though was the call Epstein received, immediately after his refusal, from the British ambassador, who advised him against missing the party of the First Lady, and reminded him that the help and protection they were receiving in Manila was courtesy of the President. Epstein stood by his decision. Whether The Beatles would have come to the party even if Epstein recalled his decision is another question though.
UNKNOWN to many, almost 40 years ago on July 4, 1966, The Beatles made history in Manila. They played twice to the biggest paying crowd in a single day in Manila with at least a combined audience of 80,000 in attendance, unmatched anywhere in the band’s touring history.
At 4:00 p.m. that day, The Beatles launched their first gig before a delighted crowd of 30,000 at the Rizal Memorial Football Stadium, yet unaware of the ugly events that awaited them owing to their inadvertent failure to show up at a luncheon party for them in Malacañang.
Four hours later, The Beatles returned to the same place for their second and last concert in Manila, this time to a crowd of 50,000. The latter, grossly ignored by many to this day, is The Beatles’ second-biggest concert attendance in history, surpassed only by their concert at the Shea Stadium in New York in August of 1965.
All in all, the Beatles performed 11 songs in their Manila con-certs. They opened with the Chuck Berry original Rock and Roll Music and followed it up with 10 original Beatles compositions: “She’s a Woman,” “If I Needed Someone,” “Day Tripper,” “Baby’s in Black,” “I Feel Fine,” “Yesterday,” “I Wanna be Your Man,” “Nowhere Man,” “Paperback Writer” and “I’m Down.”
This repertoire of less than a dozen songs basically went unchanged throughout the Beatles’ tour of Germany, Japan and Manila. In fact, the Beatles performed the same standard set when they toured the United States for the last time in August 1966, a month after the “Manila nightmare.”
From time to time, The Beatles deviated from this set by taking on “Long Tally Sally” instead of “I’m Down” as closing climax. On few occasions, they played both. Encore performances were probably not yet in vogue then, because whenever Paul introduced the last song with the line “Our next number will be our last number . . . ”, it was indeed the end of the show. Straight from the platform, The Beatles, as a rule, proceeded immediately to a waiting car parked nearby for a swift exit from the concert arena.
A recording of The Beatles’ concert here in Manila has yet to surface, if any. We listened to their last ever concert to a paying audience in Candlestick Park in San Francisco on August 29, 1966, and it carried the same standard repertoire. The whole concert clocked around 30 minutes, including the adlibs. By today’s standards, this is way too short. For example, Paul McCartney’s 3,000th gig in St. Petersburg on June 20, 2004, reportedly lasted for two and a half hours despite the threat of a downpour.
If anything, the concert in Manila proved that The Beatles were at the height of their success. One member of the audience present in this historical concert, a nine-year-old boy at the time, posted a comment in a website devoted to The Beatles back in 1999. He remembers that he was one of the spectators along with his two other older brothers. He said The Beatles looked too small as he and his brothers were seated in a more distant section from the stage and their singing could hardly be heard as their vocals were drowned by the screaming of fans.
Some of our best artists fronted for The Beatles in these concerts. They included Eddie Reyes and D’Downbeats (with the D’Cavalcade Dancers), Dale Adriatico, Wing Duo, Pilita Corrales, Lemons Three, Quartet (accompanied by Pilita Corrales and The Lemmons Three) and The Reycard Duet.
Based on the photos available on the Internet, the cost of a grandstand ringside ticket then was P30, while a field reserved ticket had a tag price of P20. Gate receipts from the two concerts totaled $100,000.
Despite the bitter experience that The Beatles and their entourage experienced at the hands of airport security personnel when they left the country, they did not leave without posting yet another milestone in their touring history with their Manila concerts.
By Lambert Ramirez



Few Video Clips are available at You Tube, but the visuals & audio were so poorly captured. Thanks Bryan for this complete information. I for one didn't know it's second to the Shea Performance.

Each time this Historic concert is mentioned my friend Goff can't help blaming himself why he didn't even bother to keep the ticket.

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« Reply #441 on: June 28, 2010, 05:59:17 PM »


Just wanna share, according to this movie, it was Forrest Gump who gave Lennon the idea for the lyrics of Imagine.  :-D

We've watched this movie over and over again, its very entertaining :-) ang galing ng pagka gawa

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« Reply #442 on: June 28, 2010, 06:04:25 PM »
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I don't bully, I just have standards, on and offline.

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« Reply #443 on: June 28, 2010, 10:04:58 PM »
I have a DVD with the version of the stories geared towards Pete Best.

What's the title bro? Peter Best of the Beatles? :wink:

P a post daw photo ng cover bro?

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« Reply #444 on: June 29, 2010, 06:01:53 PM »
The title is The BEST Of The Beatles: The greatest rock story never told.

The cover looks like this
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #445 on: June 29, 2010, 08:53:37 PM »
The title is The BEST Of The Beatles: The greatest rock story never told.

The cover looks like this


Galing! Thanks a lot bro. Mine is only a copy and the cover is different. There was this avid fan of Pete who swore he never have heard any better drummer than Best.

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« Reply #446 on: June 29, 2010, 09:17:02 PM »
An article by Lambert Ramirez:

About forty years ago, The Beatles landed in the Philippines from Tokyo for a two-concert stop. But what was anticipated to be The Beatles' second biggest concert ever became a dark spot in the group's history. Just exactly what happened on those fateful days remain confusing to many. Was it simply a case of miscommunication, lack of communication, false assumptions, opportunism?

 Upon landing, The Beatles were immediately whisked to a pier and put on Marina, a yacht owned by Don Manolo Elizalde, two miles from the port.

On July 4, a lunch was set at Malacañang Palace at 11 a.m. with 300 children waiting to see The Beatles. An hour before the party, a delegation came to the Manila Hotel to collect The Beatles. Brian Epstein, The Beatles' manager, declined the invitation on the grounds that no earlier arrangement had been made and The Beatles were still in bed.

Bill Harry, in his book The Ultimate Beatles Encyclopedia, acknowledges the existence of an invitation from Ramon Ramos, the local promoter, for The Beatles to pay a courtesy call on the First Lady, but it was slated for 3 p.m. of July 4, an hour before The Beatles' scheduled afternoon concert.


I believe it's a case of false assumption and miscommunication between the Palace and the Beatles. What I've read in a magazine before was the boys were even surprised by the TV news on that they snubbed the Marcoses.

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« Reply #447 on: June 30, 2010, 06:50:27 AM »
Galing! Thanks a lot bro. Mine is only a copy and the cover is different. There was this avid fan of Pete who swore he never have heard any better drummer than Best.

Dibidi copy lang yun sa akin he he he............
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #448 on: June 30, 2010, 07:18:22 AM »
Dibidi copy lang yun sa akin he he he............

jajaja it is much better than a photo copy or xerox copy bro. :-) magandang collection pa rin.
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« Reply #449 on: June 30, 2010, 01:14:19 PM »
Actually when I bought it I didn't know it was focused on Pete Best kasi ang nakalagay "The BEST of the Beatles". Nung napanood ko dun ko na lang nalaman. Parang Erap hairdo nga si Pete Best hangang sa pag tanda he eh eh...
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.