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Author Topic: "No good sounding Ibanez guitar" talk (offshoot of "..Good old, Cheaper Set-up")  (Read 50109 times)

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im tempted to go multieffects nga ulit eh :)

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2013, 09:49:27 PM »
Pitongjerome,

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Hi, tried it pero hindi na aabot sa max charachers eh. For the record, here is the full sentence. Mas gusto ko lang ilagay tong suhr, kasi almost all of them are more than 150k more or less pero mas marami paring bad sounding than good ones.

I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones but I also feel that there are more bad sounding Ibanez guitars than good sounding Ibanez guitars. 
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I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2013, 10:15:21 AM »
Hi, tried it pero hindi na aabot sa max charachers eh. For the record, here is the full sentence. Mas gusto ko lang ilagay tong suhr, kasi almost all of them are more than 150k more or less pero mas marami paring bad sounding than good ones.

Slight correction --- there are NO good sounding Ibanez guitars.  Thanks.

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 11:42:38 AM »
Slight correction --- there are NO good sounding Ibanez guitars.  Thanks.

I think, to my ears, I'd have to agree with this. It's usable for metal, but that's just about it.

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2013, 03:08:51 PM »
I think, to my ears, I'd have to agree with this. It's usable for metal, but that's just about it.

Impossible. Makakachamba pa rin Ibanez. :)


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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2013, 03:35:26 PM »
Impossible. Makakachamba pa rin Ibanez. :)

Siguro sir, I mean, di naman tayo makakapagsalita ng tapos. Hehehe.  :-D That's why I put in a disclaimer na 'to my ears' lang. Anyway, I'm a more traditional guy when it comes to guitars, that's why I may have said that. I mean, if I wanted an HB sound, I'd go for a Les Paul/SG rather than pick up an H-H equipped Ibanez. If I wanted a single coil sound, there's always the Strat (which I love) rather than settle for a coil-split Ibanez guitar. And as for Ibanez's archtops, I doubt it if they can go head to head with the Gibsons in this department.

Sorry kung OT na. LOL.

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 04:39:27 PM »
Impossible. Makakachamba pa rin Ibanez. :)

I wish it were different... Sigh.  I have tried so many of them the past 20 or so years.  If there was one thing I wanted was an EXCEPTIONAL Ibanez with character.  Pero wala talaga.

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 06:32:05 PM »
Slight correction --- there are NO good sounding Ibanez guitars.  Thanks.

OT na dito yan, maybe sa ibanez users thread dapat ito :-D

I wish it were different... Sigh.  I have tried so many of them the past 20 or so years.  If there was one thing I wanted was an EXCEPTIONAL Ibanez with character.  Pero wala talaga.

Meron yan, yung na test mo is just a speck of dust ng buong production nila. anyway im not an ibby fan because of their thin necks pero im sure meron at meron yang exceptional sounding guitar.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 07:13:50 PM »
I wish it were different... Sigh.  I have tried so many of them the past 20 or so years.  If there was one thing I wanted was an EXCEPTIONAL Ibanez with character.  Pero wala talaga.
A bit OT

Ibanez RG's/Superstrat in general sounds flat for me. I have tried several J.Customs and they are a bit better compared to the Prestige/Older RG's. However one J.Custom that I found exceptional is the guitar of Chad Robles (Eternal Now). To date, that is probably the best sounding Ibanez guitar that I have tried.
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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 09:49:59 PM »
in the tradition of OT ... this time i agree with FM55  with ibanez guitars. i have not tried a lot of them, but i have heard quite a few and they are only OK if you drown them with Nile level gain.

they are quite easy to play though...

i dont know whats a good reason to ditch a higher end guitar to play an ibanez... i guess the shape and playability?

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 10:33:05 PM »
I've never really had a strong urge to buy one especially after how they've embraced mass production of late. I also hate playing the if it's good enough for Vai, it's good enough for me card. But I refuse to believe that there aren't enough redeeming qualities on ANY Ibanez guitar out there. Most of my favorite guitar albums were recorded by people who favor the brand.

One day, I'll get an 1990's RG and see for myself how versatile I can get it to be. Hahaha.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2013, 12:42:57 AM »
I've never really had a strong urge to buy one especially after how they've embraced mass production of late. I also hate playing the if it's good enough for Vai, it's good enough for me card. But I refuse to believe that there aren't enough redeeming qualities on ANY Ibanez guitar out there. Most of my favorite guitar albums were recorded by people who favor the brand.

One day, I'll get an 1990's RG and see for myself how versatile I can get it to be. Hahaha.

I do believe that EVO maybe a special guitar. And to this day, Ibanez has NOT duplicated it.  But.... Ibanez pays him.  Performance and Charvel did not pay him enough I guess.

The white Ibanez JEM 77VWH Made in Japan I had was the worst sounding electric guitar I ever owned.  I find Ibanez guitars attractive in shape and form but I find Jackson USA and Custom Shops Sexier. 

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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2013, 01:04:39 AM »
I do believe that EVO maybe a special guitar. And to this day, Ibanez has NOT duplicated it.  But.... Ibanez pays him.  Performance and Charvel did not pay him enough I guess.

The white Ibanez JEM 77VWH Made in Japan I had was the worst sounding electric guitar I ever owned.  I find Ibanez guitars attractive in shape and form but I find Jackson USA and Custom Shops Sexier.

OT na ito. Tried an Ibby LACS already? Premium woods and hand made, US custom Shop Ibanez guitars. MEron din mas mataas na ngayon sa J.Custom na handmade sa ibang part ng Japan (Sugi Custom Shop) na Ibanez. They make the limited edition Meshuggah signature and the coming new Universe.
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I'll just want to share my meet and greet experience with Steve Vai and Joe Satriani last year. 

There were about twenty or thirty people in the group, almost everyone brought a guitar for Steve and Joe to sign. I was at the end of the line and have counted a JS, 3 Jems in the entire group and me holding my Universe. I noticed that whenever Steve Vai signs a Jem (while Satch is engaged in chatting with a participant), he would hold the guitar via the monkey grip, tap the headstock, then taps the body, then plucks the high b string. He did the same thing with my Universe. I was going to ask Steve about it but was not able to because Satch was really delighted to see the deluxe Chickenfoot III CD I brought for him to sign.

I think Vai is testing the consistency of the Jem builds. That's my guess (or maybe he always do it unconsciously). He has said it many times that his number one guitar "Evo", the body and neck resonates in unison. Unfortunately, I can't say that my Universe has the same unison tone. The good thing is, the Universe I have is not as bad as the two 7 string Prestige guitars I've owned previously. I've changed the pickups, used brass blocks and installed tremol-no units in these prestige guitars but they always lack character (sold them in the end).

Ibanez is not a bad guitar to play but it's extremely hard to get an exceptional sounding guitar out of the bunch.
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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2013, 09:29:20 PM »
I do believe that EVO maybe a special guitar. And to this day, Ibanez has NOT duplicated it.  But.... Ibanez pays him.  Performance and Charvel did not pay him enough I guess.

I've watched Vai live in four separate occasions and to me his tone is "thin" compared to Dweezil's, Lukather's or Satriani's setup. I'm pretty sure it's not the venue or the PA (I always try to get the front row seats). Maybe it's the Carvin Legacy or his pedal board (or maybe I'm tone deaf).
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nuno : n4 2.0 n4esa, n4vintage, n4 silver sparkle, n5, n6, n7, n8esa
etc : yjm, axis, jp6, jpxi, jp12, jp13, lp 58 vos, lp 57 ri, lp standard, lp trad, am strat, am tele deluxe, jem7v, uv777, rg prestige, j custom, deluxe reverb, vai legacy, jcm900, axefx

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Re: Reverting to the Good old, Cheaper Set-up
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2013, 12:23:56 AM »
I do believe that EVO maybe a special guitar. And to this day, Ibanez has NOT duplicated it.  But.... Ibanez pays him.  Performance and Charvel did not pay him enough I guess.

The white Ibanez JEM 77VWH Made in Japan I had was the worst sounding electric guitar I ever owned.  I find Ibanez guitars attractive in shape and form but I find Jackson USA and Custom Shops Sexier.

Sorry but there is no white jem77v.. :wave:
I guess i'd sell all of my guitars now. :lol:
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ibanez rocks on playability and in metal genres, but if youre really looking for tone i think, well maybe like some other guys would say here.. there might be out there somewhere, i mean if they are really bad sounding ones why would petrucci, kotzen, howe, gambale.. used it before right? i just dont know the ones made today though.. as for hollow bodies you can try asking metheny, benson & scofield..hahah
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Pangit din pala tone ni Paul Gilbert....  :-D

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ibanez rocks on playability and in metal genres, but if youre really looking for tone i think, well maybe like some other guys would say here.. there might be out there somewhere, i mean if they are really bad sounding ones why would petrucci, kotzen, howe, gambale.. used it before right? i just dont know the ones made today though.. as for hollow bodies you can try asking metheny, benson & scofield..hahah

They are paid to play them... By the way, Petrucci is now on Music Man.  Kotzen is now on Fender.  Howe is now on Laguna Guitars I think.  Gambale is now with Yamaha.  Metheny,Benson & Scofield vs... the rest on Gibson (now thats a lot).  Hahah Hahah.

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2013, 05:39:05 AM »
Sorry but there is no white jem77v.. :wave:
I guess i'd sell all of my guitars now. :lol:

My typo error... It was a white Jem7VWH.

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Pangit din pala tone ni Paul Gilbert....  :-D

Yup.... His distortion is kind of harsh.

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That being said...  I did NOT start this thread.  Someone hacked into my ID.

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The general sentiment is enlightening. ...so even from the Ibanez AS series, wala rin good sounding guitar? ... am seriously curious.

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so.. this Ibby doesn't  sound good?  :-o
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Just couldn't get a raw tone from Ibanez.... well comparing it to a Fender strat.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.