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Author Topic: Power amps, mixers, and rack gears that failed on you or have disapointed you.  (Read 3673 times)

Offline jeo

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This thread are for those who has high hopes on some amps/gears but utterly did'nt perform as well as you expected them.

Yes...right voltages, regular maintenace and proper wiring class and rating are always the key for their proper performance. But with all things done properly but yet those gears has some quirks.

Let me start...

>got a BTS power amps on some installation...to my dismay the preamp section distorts/clips so easily. Higher compression and limiting setting before hitting it helped.

>yamaha mg mixers...not good for diva's, screaming rock vocals and mic'd drums...I found them severely lacking headroom. also distorts and clips easily even though the pad switch is on. EQ section has a wide bump and dip...not that corrective

>behringer compresors...very audible breathing at pumping compare sa iba.
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline Xelly

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Yung una kong Behringer mixer. Bigla nalang  nasisira yung isang channel hanggang sa nahawa na ibang channels. :eek:

Offline jeo

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Yung una kong Behringer mixer. Bigla nalang  nasisira yung isang channel hanggang sa nahawa na ibang channels. :eek:

nako baka maging mostly behringer gears ang thread na eto ah...ako rin pala yung 2 na installan ko na nagpumilit na behringer mixer(ung may fx) ilagay ko sa kanina ilang beses bumalik sa akin for under warranty repairs...per meron ako isa yung walang built-in effects no problem. running for almost 10 years na ata.
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline skyjammer

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Behringer 31-band ULTRAGRAPH PRO FBQ3102. Failed exactly a year after purchase. Wasn't even exposed to harsh elements, used only once a week at an enclosed church with no humidity issues. Toink.

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Behringer 31-band ULTRAGRAPH PRO FBQ3102. Failed exactly a year after purchase. Wasn't even exposed to harsh elements, used only once a week at an enclosed church with no humidity issues. Toink.
Also their mic100 and mic200 pre-amp.


Offline tam_guitar

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I thought German technology are suppose to be sought after?
Siguro, the fact that it's made in China is a factor?
There is no tone. There is only music.

Offline skyjammer

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I thought German technology are suppose to be sought after?
Siguro, the fact that it's made in China is a factor?
Not because it's made in China. Just bad parts.

I'm still interested in their X32 though. Looking forward to a still-cheap-but-better-performance-and-quality future.

Offline jeo

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Not because it's made in China. Just bad parts.

I'm still interested in their X32 though. Looking forward to a still-cheap-but-better-performance-and-quality future.
swertehan lang siguro..hehe. yung fbq 3102 namin 11 years na ayus pa rin=) yup x32 has cool features=)
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline rob3

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2 behringers mixer ko 12/24 channel naka ilan pagawa na ako 😅
pero yung behringer speakers ko ayos na ayos. 👍

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I'm still interested in their X32 though. Looking forward to a still-cheap-but-better-performance-and-quality future.

Go for it bro! Hindi ka magsisisi!!

Offline ryanbairan

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inuke 6000 bigla n sira hindi pa ng vvolume up sira na
ALECXIE LIGHTS AND SOUNDS RENTAL
 
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Offline Xelly

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inuke 6000 bigla n sira hindi pa ng vvolume up sira na

May design flaw talaga yung mga unang Inuke sir. Pero may ginawa daw na mod yung manufacturer niyan

Offline luffy

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We bought one  inuke NU6000. Naimpress talaga kami sa sound output ng amp, magaan at mura pa. So we bought a second unit.
Dahil sa bad reviews, we expect it to break sometimes, but we all thought it could be repaired. Mga technicians nagsasabi na "makukuha din nilang gawin ang problema."
Since walang makakarepair nito sa area namin, we sent it back sa "source" nito sa Manila.

Kawawa talaga ang business. Hindi na nagagamit, we shouldered all the shipping cost given we are from the Visayas area.
Okay naman kasi pinalitan yong unang unit ng bago, part sa warranty. We were assured that the units have been repaired,
and may pinalitan na parts sa power supply - yong sinasabing "faulty diode".
Pero nasira ulit ang second unit despite the repairs being made. And a final blow the new replacement unit that I believe
which belong to the new batch of "corrected" Inukes broke.
 
To be fair sa provider, okay naman treatment nila sa customer. They extended to two years service warranty sa power supply section ng Inuke.
 Pero it seems that this technology is simply not applicable to our country's electricity system. Ang totoo, nasisira pa rin at nasisira ang Inuke. Naka AVR na nga yon
mula simula. WE followed all the instructions carefully in how to use it. Nasa three O'clock lang ang volume knob, etc.
But still we ended up with two broken Inukes NU6000, that is, not even a year of service and even seldom used.  :-\ :cry:

Sana nga kung may distributor sa Inukes dito, please advice us what to do with these units. Sayang talaga. Kung pwede sana replace na
lang ng ibang unit sa inventory nila.

Offline Xelly

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We bought one  inuke NU6000. Naimpress talaga kami sa sound output ng amp, magaan at mura pa. So we bought a second unit.
Dahil sa bad reviews, we expect it to break sometimes, but we all thought it could be repaired. Mga technicians nagsasabi na "makukuha din nilang gawin ang problema."
Since walang makakarepair nito sa area namin, we sent it back sa "source" nito sa Manila.

Kawawa talaga ang business. Hindi na nagagamit, we shouldered all the shipping cost given we are from the Visayas area.
Okay naman kasi pinalitan yong unang unit ng bago, part sa warranty. We were assured that the units have been repaired,
and may pinalitan na parts sa power supply - yong sinasabing "faulty diode".
Pero nasira ulit ang second unit despite the repairs being made. And a final blow the new replacement unit that I believe
which belong to the new batch of "corrected" Inukes broke.
 
To be fair sa provider, okay naman treatment nila sa customer. They extended to two years service warranty sa power supply section ng Inuke.
 Pero it seems that this technology is simply not applicable to our country's electricity system. Ang totoo, nasisira pa rin at nasisira ang Inuke. Naka AVR na nga yon
mula simula. WE followed all the instructions carefully in how to use it. Nasa three O'clock lang ang volume knob, etc.
But still we ended up with two broken Inukes NU6000, that is, not even a year of service and even seldom used.  :-\ :cry:

Sana nga kung may distributor sa Inukes dito, please advice us what to do with these units. Sayang talaga. Kung pwede sana replace na
lang ng ibang unit sa inventory nila.

Binalik ninyo ulit sa distributor yung Inuke?
Ano gamit ninyong AVR?

Offline jeo

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may distributor akong nakausap ang sabi sa akin...."okey lang mag class d amps, wag ka lang magbebenta sa probinsya at iba kuryente nila dun". If going the class D route iwasan siguro yung mga entry-level units. may isang fix install akong nakita pumipito/sumisipol ng around 12kHz naman yung powered speaker nila pag nababad ng matagal.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2014, 11:20:50 AM by jeo »
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline luffy

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Binalik ninyo ulit sa distributor yung Inuke?
Ano gamit ninyong AVR?


for the last repairs, we sent it to a knowledgeable technician in Mindanao who is also assembling DIY class D amps. he managed to repair the inukes
once. but still the inukes broke. Desperate na kasi kami, kaya pinadala namin sa kanya. this technician also
found out the way the inukes were repaired in the service center .. not so encouraging. :| both inukes are still with that technician now.
he said the units are still unstable. gusto ko nga sana ibenta
centersa taga manila dahil malapit sila sa service center. pero.. ewan

Offline luffy

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Binalik ninyo ulit sa distributor yung Inuke?
Ano gamit ninyong AVR?

Nissin na brand ng AVR yata yon.. 10000watts yata.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2014, 09:37:34 PM by luffy »

Offline bojbonilla

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sirain gain knob ng behringer mixers

Offline yahu

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What else e di si beh na panalo dito.case closed

Offline fantom

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Naku balak ko pa naman kumuha ng Inuke6000 for my sub. . So palpak pala talaga ang Inuke? Pero nakita ko si Myusikmicks gumagamit ng Inuke6000. . Binitin din kaya sya nun?

Offline topgone

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pasali mga sirs
share lang din...

behringer mic xm8500 yung katapat ng sm 58 after a while numipis ang tunog.

behringer ultra graph pro 31x2 geq palpak walang kagat ang slides as in no effect sa first five low and high freqs.

behringer mixers sirain ang slides.

no offense po sa behringer sharing only my personal experience...kaya nga nung mag digital mixer kami x32 was last on my list

PEACE to all fans of x32 i know this is a good mixer, though some of my friends uses this and according to them its flawless.

 :wink:

Offline Xelly

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its flawless.

Katotohanan yan bro! Parating na 2nd unit ko ng X32. Ang masasabi ko lang, kahit sobrang pangit ng history ng Beh, dahil sa ganda ng features, ganda ng price, at ganda ng reviews nito, worth the risk pa rin!