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Let's go back in time. Who do you think is the most over rated gutiarist up until now?

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2007, 05:25:03 PM »
Overrated?

Kurt Cobain!

Imagine how many times he was featured on the cover of guitar magazines. Several articles were written about him especially after he died. Worse, the "solo" of Smells like Teen Spirit was included in Guitar World's Top Guitar Solos of all time! huh?!

mas madami ako alam na kanta ni kurt kesa ni santana,evh or michel angelo batio.cno mga yan?

Worse thing is that Kurt Cobain is worshipped because he was "the messiah" that saved us all from the 80's glam/pop/hair metal!

Excuse me while I listen to Winger! 80's glam/pop/hair metal rules! heheheh  :-D
the point is, he sold millions of records w/ his own song writing ability  :lol: ...  priceless  :-)

di naman siya well known dahil sa guitar skill niya eh, dahil sa song writing niya kaya siya sikat  :-)
onga. a lot of people will probably agree he's a brilliant songwriter. so will all these magazines please stop putting him in those "top guitar solos" polls?!?! start a "brilliant songwriters" poll and stick him there where he belongs.

brilliant songwriter, yes. guitar player (when he's not stoned out of his mind), mediocre at best.

or maybe compositions/song writing is something critics are looking for in a guitar player...you cannot discount the fact that kurt may have the easiest or most basic chords for a grunge band but no one else thought of making that easy song...

it's just me, he is a brilliant song writer but not really a great guitar player
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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2007, 05:25:25 PM »
yngwie

yes

yngwie malmsteen

yeah he's fast and he plays classical licks over metal, but it's the only thing he does, over and over and over and over

he's talented yes

but one of the greats, not really

I'd go out on a limb and risk flaming and say that EVH is overrated as well.

he's influential no doubt.

but I don't really feel it with his playing

Randy Rhoads took EVH's style and did more with it than EVH will ever do.

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« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2007, 05:26:48 PM »
mas madami ako alam na kanta ni kurt kesa ni santana,evh or michel angelo batio.cno mga yan?
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« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2007, 05:30:39 PM »
yngwie

yes

yngwie malmsteen

yeah he's fast and he plays classical licks over metal, but it's the only thing he does, over and over and over and over

he's talented yes

but one of the greats, not really

I'd go out on a limb and risk flaming and say that EVH is overrated as well.

he's influential no doubt.

but I don't really feel it with his playing

Randy Rhoads took EVH's style and did more with it than EVH will ever do.

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2007, 05:31:20 PM »
Uy pare, heavy E phrygian daw o

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2007, 05:32:45 PM »
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Si EVH? Sugod mga kapatiiid!!!!


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GASP! But yngwie is your new god!


super laugh trip to!

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mas madami ako alam na kanta ni kurt kesa ni santana,evh or michel angelo batio.cno mga yan?

weheheheh....baka siya^^^ ang mag dapat niyong sugodin

jok lang :)

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2007, 05:34:57 PM »

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GASP! But yngwie is your new god!


super laugh trip to!



onga eh tawa ako ng tawa. eto pa o:
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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2007, 05:53:18 PM »
meron pa ko isa

di naman legendary pero may signature series din

yung gitarista ng creed = lick factory
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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2007, 06:07:37 PM »
^Mark Tremonti? ok lang sakin...

si Malmsteen(patawarin nyo ako mga forumites) overkill....
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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2007, 07:52:44 PM »
Mahusay si tremonti, di lang mashado mapalabok kasi pangkantahan yung tugtog nya


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GASP! But yngwie is your new god!



hehehehe galing sa kalokohan  :-D sumakit tyan ko dun..

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #60 on: August 06, 2007, 07:53:38 PM »
meron pa ko isa

di naman legendary pero may signature series din

yung gitarista ng creed = lick factory

ops...teka... :-o

binanatan si tremonti? wag ganun...i like that guy...

this thread is getting ugly...  :evil:

hahaha... :-D

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« Reply #61 on: August 06, 2007, 08:17:38 PM »
meron pa ko isa

di naman legendary pero may signature series din

yung gitarista ng creed = lick factory

^Mark Tremonti? ok lang sakin...

si Malmsteen(patawarin nyo ako mga forumites) overkill....

Mahusay si tremonti, di lang mashado mapalabok kasi pangkantahan yung tugtog nya


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GASP! But yngwie is your new god!



hehehehe galing sa kalokohan  :-D sumakit tyan ko dun..


meron pa ko isa

di naman legendary pero may signature series din

yung gitarista ng creed = lick factory

ops...teka... :-o

binanatan si tremonti? wag ganun...i like that guy...

this thread is getting ugly...  :evil:

hahaha... :-D

sabi ko na nga ba at mababanggit si idol Tremonti eh...

ok si Mark Tremonti, may PRS Mark Tremonti II na sya... yung si Billy Martin nga ng Good Charlotte discontinued na yung PRS Sig Model nya...

overrated para sa akin ay si Yngwie Malmsteen... try to play slow nga?


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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #62 on: August 06, 2007, 08:27:46 PM »

sabi ko na nga ba at mababanggit si idol Tremonti eh...

ok si Mark Tremonti, may PRS Mark Tremonti II na sya... yung si Billy Martin nga ng Good Charlotte discontinued na yung PRS Sig Model nya...

overrated para sa akin ay si Yngwie Malmsteen... try to play slow nga?


true malmsteen plays super fast... (nanood ako ng tutorial niya, pucha, wala akong nakuha... "here's the lick slow *plays it fast*...now here's the lick up to tempo... *plays faster*"...maraming salamt pareng yngwie...haha)

pero i heard from a reliable source na malupit siya magblues...

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« Reply #63 on: August 06, 2007, 08:30:25 PM »
napakahusay nga mag blues:
:roll:

Idol ko pa rin haha. Bwiset lang instructional vid niya lol

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« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2007, 12:20:24 AM »
napakahusay nga mag blues:
:roll:

Idol ko pa rin haha. Bwiset lang instructional vid niya lol

oo nga...nagturo pa.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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« Reply #65 on: August 07, 2007, 01:19:06 AM »
mangaling kung mgaling nga si yngwie...kaso  rockstar attitude....overkill nga....hehehe
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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #66 on: August 07, 2007, 01:28:39 AM »
Overrated?

Kurt Cobain!

Imagine how many times he was featured on the cover of guitar magazines. Several articles were written about him especially after he died. Worse, the "solo" of Smells like Teen Spirit was included in Guitar World's Top Guitar Solos of all time! huh?!

Worse thing is that Kurt Cobain is worshipped because he was "the messiah" that saved us all from the 80's glam/pop/hair metal!

Excuse me while I listen to Winger! 80's glam/pop/hair metal rules! heheheh  :-D
Everyting Kurt did on that sophomore album was ANTHEMIC. Sure it was not the most technical licks, speed numbing runs of scales but still those leadlines were so melodic, so urgent that it resonated thruout the whole of that GENERATION Xers.  I havent started on the riffs that he wrote as well.

For goodness sake if your gonna ask me what riff blew me away during my lifetime...............TEEN SPIRIT....nuff said.
Guitar player, dead, legend? YES, overrated?...NO,

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #67 on: August 07, 2007, 01:47:09 AM »
some hair band guitar players just really can't accept the fact that they were overthrown(w/ their boutique gears and their rich rockstar lifestyle) in the mainstream by some guy wearing jeans sneakers using BOSS stompboxes and [gooey brown stuff] stratocasters  :-D that's why they keep on flaming kurt cobain, soundgarden and pearl jam.

instead of burning some fat, sitting around, drinking beer, wasting money and start working on new songs, some of them keeps on talking.

di nila matanggap na laos na sila tapos na oras nila and kumikita yung mga seattle bands pagkatapos ng panahon nila.
weather weather lang yan hehe

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2007, 02:01:16 AM »
Overrated?

Kurt Cobain!

Imagine how many times he was featured on the cover of guitar magazines. Several articles were written about him especially after he died. Worse, the "solo" of Smells like Teen Spirit was included in Guitar World's Top Guitar Solos of all time! huh?!

Worse thing is that Kurt Cobain is worshipped because he was "the messiah" that saved us all from the 80's glam/pop/hair metal!

Excuse me while I listen to Winger! 80's glam/pop/hair metal rules! heheheh  :-D
i agree with you, i never listen to nirvana...

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« Reply #69 on: August 07, 2007, 04:06:53 AM »
Overrated?

Kurt Cobain!

Imagine how many times he was featured on the cover of guitar magazines. Several articles were written about him especially after he died. Worse, the "solo" of Smells like Teen Spirit was included in Guitar World's Top Guitar Solos of all time! huh?!

Worse thing is that Kurt Cobain is worshipped because he was "the messiah" that saved us all from the 80's glam/pop/hair metal!

Excuse me while I listen to Winger! 80's glam/pop/hair metal rules! heheheh  :-D
Everyting Kurt did on that sophomore album was ANTHEMIC. Sure it was not the most technical licks, speed numbing runs of scales but still those leadlines were so melodic, so urgent that it resonated thruout the whole of that GENERATION Xers.  I havent started on the riffs that he wrote as well.

For goodness sake if your gonna ask me what riff blew me away during my lifetime...............TEEN SPIRIT....nuff said.
Guitar player, dead, legend? YES, overrated?...NO,

DESERVING 8-)



I agree 100%. smells like teen spirit is the anthem of the gen x peeps. the people would be the judge...his attitude, his music made him a legend...

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« Reply #70 on: August 07, 2007, 06:10:07 AM »

I agree 100%. smells like teen spirit is the anthem of the gen x peeps. the people would be the judge...his attitude, his music made him a legend...

Nasa-context din ng paglabas ng Nirvana kung bakit sila sumikat.  Personally at the time, na burn-out na ako sa kapapakinig ng mga second rate Shrapnel Records wannabes na walang feel dahil pabilisan na lang ng paggitara noong panahong dekada nobenta.  Nawala ba yung passion ng pagsulat ng kanta.  Nirvana had the opportunity and the songwriting chops to break the status quo.  I think at the point that Nirvana came out, people like Kirk Hammett went on record to recognize the new order from Seattle.  Ironically, it would be grunge's continued sonic tributes to Black Sabbath that would preserve and keep metal from dying out and eventually coming back with a vengeance with the likes of bands like Pantera (who were pretty much underground back in the mid-90's when grunge was also on the decline).

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« Reply #71 on: August 07, 2007, 06:20:14 AM »
Overrated?

Kurt Cobain!

Imagine how many times he was featured on the cover of guitar magazines. Several articles were written about him especially after he died. Worse, the "solo" of Smells like Teen Spirit was included in Guitar World's Top Guitar Solos of all time! huh?!

Worse thing is that Kurt Cobain is worshipped because he was "the messiah" that saved us all from the 80's glam/pop/hair metal!

Excuse me while I listen to Winger! 80's glam/pop/hair metal rules! heheheh  :-D
For goodness sake if your gonna ask me what riff blew me away during my lifetime...............TEEN SPIRIT....nuff said.
Guitar player, dead, legend? YES, overrated?...NO,

DESERVING 8-)


Smells like teen spirit? The first time I heard it in 1991, That year was really good when it comes to music because of killer new releases like Metallica's Black Album, Skid Row's Slave to the Grind, The 2 Illusion albums from GN'R and Van Halen's F.U.C.K. album.

and then... I heard Nirvana's Smells like teen spirit! I'll be honest, it caught my fancy for a while because of the riff as well...

then I remembered the riff from Boston's "More than a feeling"...  kaya pala may charm nung una kong napakinggan ung Smells like eh! heheheh :-D

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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #72 on: August 07, 2007, 07:50:38 AM »
alot has been said about malmsteen here :-D well i think if youve heard one of his songs, you already listened to all his songs...and the tone?hmmm....

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« Reply #73 on: August 07, 2007, 08:30:10 AM »
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I'd go out on a limb and risk flaming and say that EVH is overrated as well.

he's influential no doubt.

but I don't really feel it with his playing

Randy Rhoads took EVH's style and did more with it than EVH will ever do.

*sabay takbo*

Ano kamo? tsk tsk... Ang Bigat nito ah... Ang tindi ng estatemant ha... Sorry have to disagree...

+1  EVH's body of work makes about 90% of rock guitar players after him over-rated.  very few rock guitarists have done it better than him. that makes THEM over-rated.
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Re: Overrated "Legendary" Guitarists
« Reply #74 on: August 07, 2007, 09:22:29 AM »
its John McLaughlin for me. i don't know but i just can't get his playing.
bro,di sha overrated like santana.talk about popularity.imo
but if you're into jazz fusion you'll surely dig his playing. :-)