Crell CA50 power amp

[spacejam]

If the "2000 watts" printed on the magnet is the power handling capacity, then the program power is 4000 watts.

But, if 2000 watts is the program power, the power handling capacity is 1000 watts only.

My question is: where do they get their specs? 

sir i think 900 to 1000W ang true rms ... kadalasan pag 4" voice coil 500W
to 600W ang true rms rating nila... how much more pag 6" voice coil and mas malaki ang magnet pa... kung mas mahina po ang rating 6" voice coil sa 4" voice coilnun...wala ma bibili ng malalaking voice coil na speakers...
makikita nyo naman sa Iloilo sir... walang gumagamit ngayon pang bass ang mga 18" 100mm voice coil speakers sa mga battles nila... whether branded or hindi branded... dahil alam nila talo sa lakas and intensity sa mga bigger voice coil...

[Audiomaster]

akala ko earlier, misspell dahil alam ko yun Krell, meron pala Crell  hehehehe

http://www.krellonline.com/

Sir thats a hi end amp

[Jef2]

In my understanding, max or maximum power = peak power. 

If 2000 watts is the max or peak power, then the program power is 1000 watts; the power handling capacity is 500 watts only.  If we follow closely the specification declared by this speaker 

you're understanding is correct.

+1 saka anG mga t0p speaker brands hindi gumagamit ng 0versized v0ice c0ils. 

gone are the days when speaker manufacturers focus on large, heavy ferrite magnet designs and oversize voice coils.  in fact,  some are shifting to the lighter neodymium magnets with high output 4" voice coil designs.

the size of the voice coil is not so relevant once it passes 4.5".  what most branded speakers are emphasizing are the quality of the material and the voice coil winding type.  you can check the makes of rcf, fane, jbl and even p.audio.  they concentrate more on the technology, efficiency and speaker engineering. 

[spacejam]

you're understanding is correct

gone are the days when speaker manufacturers are focusing on large, heavy ferrite magnets with oversized voice coils.  in fact,  most are shifting to the lighter, smaller neodymium magnetics with 4" high efficient, high output voice coils.

you can check certain popular speaker makes like the rcf, fane, jbl and p.audio where they focus more on speaker technology and engineering.  their sound actually is obviously better.

are you serios bro... what we are talking about is actual wattage... impossible mag 500W yan.  as long as tama ang box design and malakas ang amplifier... manananalo sa lakas ang mas malaking  voice coil... kung mahihina ang volume of course patas lang ... pero pag nilakasan mo na ang volume...iiwanan ng malalking voice coil... what we are talking sir is watts sir... di po quality ng sound and durability...
mahal ngayon ang neo magnet... iilan lang maka afford dito sa pilipinas... maliban na lang magbigay ng mahabang term yun importer...

[globalwarmthings]

Sir thats a hi end amp

yeah  di ko lang alam before na may brand na Crell  hahahaha

[spacejam]

you're understanding is correct.

gone are the days when speaker manufacturers focus on large, heavy ferrite magnet designs and oversize voice coils.  in fact,  some are shifting to the lighter neodymium magnets with high output 4" voice coil designs.

the size of the voice coil is not so relevant once it passes 4.5".  what most branded speakers are emphasizing are the quality of the material and the voice coil winding type.  you can check the makes of rcf, fane, jbl and even p.audio.  they concentrate more on the technology, efficiency and speaker engineering.

sir ang precision device po may mga 6" voice coil po...  21" and 24" naman po... ang 18" na pd 1850 125mm voice coil po...  also Void speakers na 127mm voice coil V18-1000... both po branded yan..

[king_james]

sir ang precision device po may mga 6" voice coil po...  21" and 24" naman po... ang 18" na pd 1850 125mm voice coil po...  also Void speakers na 127mm voice coil V18-1000... both po branded yan..

I think the 6" voice coil size will be really more appropriate for the 21" and 24" woofers. 

I also read about the PD1850 and Void V18-1000 at Speakerplans.com.  using 5" voice coils.  But those are really among the higher brands.  And going back to the new batches of the Crowns, Live and Neusch 18" woofers, in my opinion, are not in the same class of Precision Devices and Void.  But they do somehow come up with such incredible specs    

[spacejam]

I think the 6" voice coil size will be really more appropriate for the 21" and 24" woofers. 

I also read about the PD1850 and Void V18-1000 at Speakerplans.com.  using 5" voice coils.  But those are really among the higher brands.  And going back to the new batches of the Crowns, Live and Neusch 18" woofers, in my opinion, are not in the same class of Precision Devices and Void.  But they do somehow come up with such incredible specs    

 jef@ said hangang 4.5" lang daw pwede ang 18"? dito mo makikita  na pwede gawin yan 4.5" pataas basta may technical knowhow ka kung paano mag construct  ng speaker. wouldnt you agree?
 i am also wondering how p.audio SD18 1700 got the 1700W spcs sir... if you notice sir mas maliit na magnet nya sa C18 650 and IMF seri pero nakasulat sa kanya 1700W AES samatalang sa Void 1000W AES nya 5" voice coil and 288mm magnet nya? while ang PD1850 ng percision device is 800W RMS   di mo pwede sabiihn sa technology yan... dahil mga tunay na branded yan 2...
i think mas mabilis i drive lang and bagong SD series dahil mas malambot ang damper nya kaya mas mabilis i drive... match po yan sa switch power amplifier na mas gusto ng US and European market ngayon along with the NEO drivers... because light weight po sya... lesser complaint sa mga workers nila lalo na sa nasa touring business.

[yan]

are we talking about amp or speaker in this topic???

[tjlimjoco]

Hehe pasulp0t-sulp0t kasi b0z ang advanced m0dels ng Crell Ca50, Neusch Pd1820 at Cr0wn Jh188 na tal0 pa daw nila anG specs ng branded 

[barracks01]

Hehe pasulp0t-sulp0t kasi b0z ang advanced m0dels ng Crell Ca50, Neusch Pd1820 at Cr0wn Jh188 na tal0 pa daw nila anG specs ng branded 

hahahahaha. 

[Max_C]

I have a friend who bought one in Raon, sweet talked by the salesman, the power  is almost the same as CA25 or a little bit higher. but the price is too expensive, instead you could buy 3 units of other brand with this price, He regreted and try to sell off but till now no one is interested

85K daw ba ang isa nito brad? Kapresyo ng Qsx rmx 5050 namin ito ha? Ang masakit pa pala ay nagsisisi ang bumili nitong CA50

[Max_C]

In my understanding, max or maximum power = peak power. 

If 2000 watts is the max or peak power, then the program power is 1000 watts; the power handling capacity is 500 watts only.  If we follow closely the specification declared by this speaker 

Tama max power ay ang peak power or x4 ng power handling capacity

Halimbawa:

Power handling capacity ay 600 watts; max o peak power ay 2400 watts

[luffy]

jef@ said hangang 4.5" lang daw pwede ang 18"? dito mo makikita  na pwede gawin yan 4.5" pataas basta may technical knowhow ka kung paano mag construct  ng speaker. wouldnt you agree?
i am also wondering how p.audio SD18 1700 got the 1700W spcs sir... if you notice sir mas maliit na magnet nya sa C18 650 and IMF seri pero nakasulat sa kanya 1700W AES samatalang sa Void 1000W AES nya 5" voice coil and 288mm magnet nya? while ang PD1850 ng percision device is 800W RMS   di mo pwede sabiihn sa technology yan... dahil mga tunay na branded yan 2...
i think mas mabilis i drive lang and bagong SD series dahil mas malambot ang damper nya kaya mas mabilis i drive... match po yan sa switch power amplifier na mas gusto ng US and European market ngayon along with the NEO drivers... because light weight po sya... lesser complaint sa mga workers nila lalo na sa nasa touring business.

mas malaki naman ang magnet ng SD 18. ibang level ang SD series kaysa challenger at IMF. halos same yata ang magnet size ng SD at Jackhammer

[Glennox]

mas malaki naman ang magnet ng SD 18. ibang level ang SD series kaysa challenger at IMF. halos same yata ang magnet size ng SD at Jackhammer

...+1 Bossing...iba bumayo ang SD18 compared sa Challenger at IMF series lalo na kung reputable amplifier ang ipangdadrive mo sa SD18...saka yung cousins ko sa Iloilo na gamit dati ay China woofers at ngayon nag SD18 kinikwento nila na iba ang klase ng tunog ng SD18...branded talaga...,, 

[spacejam]

mas malaki naman ang magnet ng SD 18. ibang level ang SD series kaysa challenger at IMF. halos same yata ang magnet size ng SD at Jackhammer

Sir sd 181700 Ang pinag usapan po namin... Di po sd 18el... Ang sd 18el 280mmx30mm magnet Nya... ... Mas malaki Ang magnet Nya sa jackhammer 280x25mm jh 186... Ang bago sd 18 1700 maliit Lang magnet Nya. Di Lang halata  dahil sa bagong casing ... 220mm Lang Ang outer diameter Ng magnet ng SD181700... Na measure ko na po yun magnet bago naman ako mag comment 

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