Hay nako, skunk, it seems you value HC forumers opinions more than ours, then this is as unbiased as it gets, in THEIR WORDS:
from James Peters:
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I'm being flamed by a local forum because I said PODS AREN'T FOR SERIOUS
RECORDINGThat's because it's an ignorant statement, or at best a "strong personal opinion not based in fact". It certainly isn't the truth because I've heard quite a few recordings which sounded nice with a POD used in them. It's not just
the device (amp, POD, whatever) used, but the production process in general that determines how the mix will sound. If it works, it works. And to be honest I'd rather use a POD for recordings than quite a few amps (some of which are well-liked on this forum too).
If you want to
pontificate further, refer to the list of recording artists that have used PODs, Amp Farm or Flextones for their albums. I may not be fond of Lenny Kravitz for instance, and I might've chosen a tube amp to record in the studio if I were in his shoes, but it seems that didn't stop the album "5" from selling literally millions of copies. That's about as serious as serious gets for albums, when it comes right down to it."
Then there's this reply by Hegmatronicon:
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Originally Posted by skunky_funk View Post
I said, the convenience of technology can corrupt the discipline of finding one's perfect tone.Welcome to spending too much time on HCAF and not enough time jamming.
Finding ones perfect tone.....a discipline? Says who?
I will agree that a lot of ppl are lazy and will use things like the POD's etc to save on trying to dial in the amp and get mic positions right etc
BUT good tone is good tone, regardless of how it's obtained. I just think the statement kinda comes off
very snobbish.
Apparently, you gloss over those whose statements conflict with your preferences.
Then you post this:
"Originally Posted by skunky_funk
View Post
Help. I'm making stuff up so I can stir the pot on digital recording!"
Oh, that does wonders for your credibility, not only here, but also at HC. Does that mean that most of your posts are made up? Btw, you record digitally to a DAW, IIRC.
And what's this in your post about "digital hissing"? Explain to me how you put up your gain structure. In ANY, and I mean ANY, electrical circuit that amplifies a weak signal, there will ALWAYS be noise. The rushing of electrons through a wire or component WILL create noise that we perceive as hiss. Certain amp configurations and certain components can reduce that hiss if properly designed and selected.
the fact that 11 out of 14 persons answered YES to the poll question "Am I hallucinating when I say I HEAR DIGITAL HISSING WITH GUITAR RIG HIGH GAIN SOUNDS" ?
And just who are these 11? Did they elaborate their signal chain? More importantly, did they have a COMMON signal chain, same audio interface, same guitar, same gain settings, same ampsim software... if need be, did they conduct their test in the same studio? Remember, high gain WILL AMPLIFY any noise. If you want to hear what digital noise your converters are adding, raise the gain on the your converter's inputs without anything connected, record a few seconds and then apply gain on the recorded wavefile in your editor. THAT is your audio interface's amplifier circuit noise before the A/D. Everytime you raise the gain on that input, that is what you add to your recording. Next add your guitar, preamps, and maybe fx or whatnot but don't play anything... don't even touch it. Then record a few seconds. That is what your external gear is adding to the mix. If this is the digital noise that your hear, i.e., hiss, then surprise, surprise! It's all analog. Digital quantizing noise isn't hiss, it's very different, but recognizable if you KNOW what to look for.
Why aren't all amps made so that they have minimal hiss? Because then they would all be BOUTIQUE AMPS. Everything is manufactured to a cost ceiling which is intended to be affordable to certain percentages of the entire demography. If
everything is all boutique, guess how long before a company closes shop. There's this thing about cost efficiency which seems to elude you since it's not only limited to the end user, but to equipment manufacturers as well.
What I find insulting is how little respect you have for your fellow musicians, engineers and producers here, how you seem to treat guitarists who use ampsims with disdain, while putting a lot of value on HC forumer's opinions. Granting that some HC regulars might be professionals in the foreign music biz, there are seasoned veterans posting here at MTPA as well, and we should be thankful that they choose to share their knowledge and experiences, which should be legendary since they created recordings which have stood the test of time. Apparently, you don't put our local professionals in high regard. Tsk, tsk, skunk, such knowledge you possess, but such waste.
This is my last word on this. If any flaming erupts, this thread will be locked.
