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which is your cup of tea?

Behhringer X32
9 (20.9%)
Presonus SL
12 (27.9%)
Soundcraft SI Expression
22 (51.2%)

Total Members Voted: 40

Voting closed: November 09, 2015, 12:37:13 PM

Author Topic: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers  (Read 45229 times)

Offline jeo

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Any inputs are welcome...first hand or second heard experience on the unit/s or just a personal opinion on the said gears.

Lets just limit the discussion to these 3 awesome priced digital mixers.

Pros & Cons, quirks ect...

Lets get it on... :) :) :)
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline sikyo

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 05:31:52 PM »
These digital mixers are getting close to being affordable. Soundcraft Si Expression 1 versus Behringer X32 Producer looks comparable at least price wise but with Harman components (BSS, dbx, lexicon) on board, the former series of products has caused a stir among users of the more expensive Soundcraft Si and Vi series digital mixers, i.e., that much feature set at that price range would have been worth the wait to some of them.   
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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 11:49:15 PM »
sir meron pong lalabas na hybrid mixer, digi-log as what they may call it, its a mixture of analog and digital console, as a stand alone unit it works like an ordinary analalog console, connect a laptop to it and it becomes a digital mixer complete with (fx/limiters/compressors) per ch, you can also record through it. pricewise it is almost half of what digital mixers are priced. it comes from the company with the "golden touch" :-D

just imagine you can still use your analog processors.... pag tinamad ka naman laptop na lng dalhin mo in lieu of your processor rack

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2013, 11:42:53 AM »
Check ninyo ito:
http://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-3242AI
Mukhang pinatumba ng bagong mixer ng Presonus ang Behringer X32?

Offline eirol_99

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 03:23:01 PM »
pinakamura dyan ang x32, soundcheck got two units so i think pasado sa kanila, i heard they got 1 demo unit for a week long test bago sila kumuha. looking on some videos and literatures, i see it flexible enough and powerful, there is even a crossover filter available if needed.
on the presonus, it is way expensive,(ph price) got no motorized faders, fixed 4 subgroups
the soundcraft si expression we wait for its price. but i heard that it would be much lessthan the si compact price in the US.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4993751009221&set=a.1833717170350.105272.1463065597&type=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=528159123873056&set=a.528159050539730.115546.100000369199102&type=1

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=4508622161303&set=t.100002015516176&type=3&src=https%3A%2F%2Ffbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net%2Fhphotos-ak-prn1%2F644100_4508622161303_1199226723_n.jpg&size=960%2C640

presonous

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ps.
i'm in no way connected to the sellers and distributors of above products,  baka mapagkamalan promoter na naman,, hehehe


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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2013, 12:01:51 AM »
Are the philippine dealers of this units can technically support the product? I mean kung maliit na company/installation ka lang tapos nag loko yung unit mo...can they give you a replacement while your unit is on their repair bays? or can their in-house repair department knows na to repair them...o hangang power supply problems pa lang kaya nila....pretty much an isolated case if you could encounter one bad unit..but what if?
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2013, 12:17:41 AM »
X32  :)

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2013, 08:54:58 AM »
X32  :)

Ngayon GAS ko na rin ito!!! :eek: :eek:

Ask ko lang mga sir may remote feature din ba ang X32? Yung pwede siya macontrol ng Ipad?

Offline eirol_99

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2013, 10:25:54 AM »
Ngayon GAS ko na rin ito!!! :eek: :eek:

Ask ko lang mga sir may remote feature din ba ang X32? Yung pwede siya macontrol ng Ipad?

yes meron, kabitan mo lang ng wireless router it can be controlled via an ipad, sayang walang pang android tablet, btw, may model ng x 32 rack walang control surface, via ipad or PC sya i control

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2013, 10:32:24 AM »
Another question in mind...are the sound quality of this unit to the analog ones. Like if you compare its preamps to a vlz-pro or lx7ii. Tested a Presonus SL on a drum setup...well its good and sound thicker able to hear the transients. Im still an analog at heart...just the higher digital models will go at par with the better analog mixers, tonewise. But tech's are control freaks kaya digital give you more value in a sense:)))
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2013, 09:35:10 PM »
yes meron, kabitan mo lang ng wireless router it can be controlled via an ipad, sayang walang pang android tablet, btw, may model ng x 32 rack walang control surface, via ipad or PC sya i control

Yun oh!!! Sana masmura X32 rack type!!!

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>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2013, 01:40:17 AM »
hmmmm. how about allen and heath equivalent? anong masasabi nio?
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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2013, 12:16:02 PM »
hmmmm. how about allen and heath equivalent? anong masasabi nio?
the thread is a shortlist of live digital mixers are under $3999...hope A&H can join the band wagon. meron na ba silang nilabas under such category?
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline niroh

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2013, 11:49:22 AM »
i'll go for presonus, grabe yung sound quality sa isang demo during PALMM 2012.

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2013, 12:58:32 PM »
i'll go for presonus, grabe yung sound quality sa isang demo during PALMM 2012.
di ako nakapunta nung palmm 2012 eh...sa presonus demo did they load all the inputs(band set-up)? or simple line playback or just 2-3 mics? minsan kasi sa palmm, demo's are not pushed...like you have ferrari tapos takbo nya sa demo is 60-90kph on a straight pavement.
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer



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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2013, 08:25:38 PM »
in my own opinion,  this are all good bang for the buck digital mixers to start with.

you'll never go wrong with this brands, it's just a matter of choosing which one will fit your budget

and taste.

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Re: Behringer X32 vs. Presonus SL vs. Soundcraft SI Expression Digital Mixers
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2013, 12:15:11 AM »
in my own opinion,  this are all good bang for the buck digital mixers to start with.

you'll never go wrong with this brands, it's just a matter of choosing which one will fit your budget

and taste.

 :)

These are all entry level live digital mixers...on the x32 looks like behringer just hit a jackpot product with good user reviews. One reviewer said that the features on the X32 they should sell it @ $7k and wondering how they manage to sell it @ $3.2k. This move by Behringer is now forcing other manufacturers/brands to price match them. Soundcraft answered it by the SI expression though less in features you might get a better sonic quality and reliabilty of soundcraft...kaso still a hypothesis till the SI comes to our shores. The presonus sl sold well on a lot of pro audio suppliers here and they swear by it..really good hardware for recording live perfomances also.
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

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My old buddy from Audiophile Alimall branch just informed me that few units of the latest Soundcraft Si Expression Digital console have been released.   :cool: :cool:

These are the models:

Si Expression 1 16chan at 132,300

Si Expression 2 24chan at 156,800

Si Expression 3 32chan at 196,000


http://www.soundcraft.com/products/product.aspx?pid=191

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My old buddy from Audiophile Alimall branch just informed me that few units of the latest Soundcraft Si Expression Digital console have been released.   :cool: :cool:

These are the models:

Si Expression 1 16chan at 132,300

Si Expression 2 24chan at 156,800

Si Expression 3 32chan at 196,000


http://www.soundcraft.com/products/product.aspx?pid=191

Uy halos kapresyo lang ng Behringer!! Macheck nga. Salamat sa info sir!

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il chose soundcraft over berry and presonus.

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SI Compact series mga sir ano masasabi nyo?