The Internet is Killing Guitar Shops

[Gunslinger]

^ Agree. Siguro kulang sa research? Pero hindi rin. Evident naman na may market talaga sa online retailing. Yung pag execute siguro ang problema/mahirap(?)

[techbp]

adapt or die.

guitar center and sam-ash didn't start out as the online musical instrument retailer that they are know today. both started as physical stores. they just adapted as time passed, to the new trends in selling musical instuments. you really can't blame the consumers coz they'll always go where they can get the maximum value for their hard-earned peso.

nakakapagtaka lang sa mga major retailers natin, bakit di sila mag umpisa sa online retailing? mahirap ba gumawa at mag maintain ng site kagaya ng musiciansfriend (with the convenience of credit card payment and shipping) ? panigurado marami silang mahahanap na tao na kayang gawin yung ganun, at kung sa online shop na, mababawasan na yung overhead cost nila, mababawasan din SRP ng mga binebenta nila. yung sound essentials, medyo naguumpisa na, tingnan nyo yung concierge service nila

http://www.sound-essentials.com/concierge.html

pero sana yung full e-commerce site.

TAMA! At dapat hanapin nila ako at ako na bahala.. DAPAT ako ang gagawa ng website nila haha...

[sheepsmellslikeseashells]

adapt or die.

This.

The rules have already changed with the advent of the internet. So, if you're still living in the Industrial Age process of setting up your business, you're in trouble. It's not that 'grey marketers' are bypassing the government by-laws, anyway. It's just that, that's the way how commercialism in THE Information Age has sprawled since Windows '95.

But, there really are some (usually hypocrites) who'd still want to shove to our throats the Industrial Age thought of procuring our acquisitions. They scoff on grey marketers. Yet, you see their pedalboards & instrument racks are sporting a heavily boutique setup. Stuff that you won't find on any commercial stalls such as JB & Yupango. Then, you ask yourself, how'd they get that? Was it done through another middle-man (read: grey marketer)? Didn't they themselves avoid local government tax by procuring the item themselves. ...if tax is the simple issue. Then we have to realize that there's a difference between Tax Evasion & Tax Avoidance. Even the government & politicians themselves have two sets of 'books' for their financial reports.

[jefisipbata]

^ Agree. Siguro kulang sa research? Pero hindi rin. Evident naman na may market talaga sa online retailing. Yung pag execute siguro ang problema/mahirap(?)

nope, dinosaurs lang yung may may-ari/decision makers. i'm sure internet savvy ang staff nila as evidenced by various philmusic members that are working for those stores. or hindi pa na present ng maayos yan, just give those power-brokers an in-depth study with "ka-ching" as your conclusion and i'm sure they'll go with the online model.

TAMA! At dapat hanapin nila ako at ako na bahala.. DAPAT ako ang gagawa ng website nila haha...

tama!

This.

The rules have already changed with the advent of the internet. So, if you're still living in the Industrial Age process of setting up your business, you're in trouble. It's not that 'grey marketers' are bypassing the government by-laws, anyway. It's just that, that's the way how commercialism in THE Information Age has sprawled since Windows '95.

But, there really are some (usually hypocrites) who'd still want to shove to our throats the Industrial Age thought of procuring our acquisitions. They scoff on grey marketers. Yet, you see their pedalboards & instrument racks are sporting a heavily boutique setup. Stuff that you won't find on any commercial stalls such as JB & Yupango. Then, you ask yourself, how'd they get that? Was it done through another middle-man (read: grey marketer)? Didn't they themselves avoid local government tax by procuring the item themselves. ...if tax is the simple issue. Then we have to realize that there's a difference between Tax Evasion & Tax Avoidance. Even the government & politicians themselves have two sets of 'books' for their financial reports.

actually matagal na yang storefront-less model ng pagbenta ng musical instruments. Carvin has been doing it that way ever since, mail order pa. nag iba lang ang medium ngayon dahil internet na, dati catalog/phone ordering. hindi ko talaga gets yung reluctance ng mga stores na mag shift sa online retail, ang mura na ng rates ng LBC ngayon sobrang ok pa ang service and i'm sure kaya nila makipag tie-up sa mga delivery companies for even cheaper rates kung kagaya ka ng JB/Yupangco. 

[Poundcake]

On the other hand, maganda namang may mga gumagawa ng effort magdala ng mga produkto locally kahit small-scale lang ang operations. Pero wag naman yung bastusan na tipong produkto ng may produkto eh nakikisawsaw pa yung mga ibang importer. Okay lang sana kung yung mga produkto eh walang local representation (e.g. Empress effects, Menatone, Moody's Straps, ADA, etc. wala pang nagdadala ng mga to locally), pero hindi ganun ang nangyayari e. May mga nakikita pa ako paminsan na nagbebenta rin ng Pedaltrain kahit malinaw naman na EpicTone lang ang lisensyado magbenta ng Pedaltrain products dito sa Pilipinas. Meron din namang nagbebenta ng TC Electronic products na galing sa Amazon, eBay o kung saan mang online store kahit JB Music naman ang official local distributor. Kung ayaw ng consumer bumili sa mga local distributor dahil sa presyo, mas maganda pang bumili na lang yung mga consumer straight from the Internet kaysa sa dumaan pa sa mga di official na nagbebenta.

A good way to analyze this is to imagine being the official dealer of the brands that other people are importing. Anong mararamdaman ninyo kung ang produkto na pinag-ubusan ninyo ng panahon at pinaggastusan ninyong makuhanan ng distributorship, i-import, i-market at bilhan ng stocks eh nilalako lang ng ibang colorum na tindero sa presyong mababa sa profitable price point nyo? Basta makalamang lang at kumita, magbebenta pa rin nang magbebenta tong mga to. Ang Pinoy modo at etiketa nga naman talaga o.

My stand is that I am against exclusive distributorship of music equipment products in the Philippines because it is anti-competitive and is anti-consumer due to price monopoly. BUT, if other people want to keep the major distributors honest with their prices, at least gawin naman nilang official yung pagcompete by making their businesses legitimate thru SEC/DTI/BIR and being official co-distributors of products that they want to sell. WALANG WARRANTY ang mga item na binili sa colorum na tindero, so a good starting point is to compete with the current distributors not just in PRICING but also in QUALITY OF SERVICE and AFTER-SALES SUPPORT.

Sa mga tatamaan, wag sana kayo ma-offend. Mas maganda lang kung legal ang trabaho para hindi kayo mayari ng BIR pag nag-crackdown na sila sa small-scale importers.

[r_chino18]

yes, but not all the time win win, example korg pitchblack tuner - it retails before sa mga resellers dito 3k plus to 4k the most eh ngayon sa Audiophile 2,8k plus  nlang srp. Artec pedals nung wala pa sa pinas umaabot din ng 4k sa mga resellers dito.

During those time bro, ang presyo ng AP sa pitchblack ay almost 4k din.. kaya yung 3k na bentahan dati ay mura na.. lately na lang sila nag price drop sa Pitchblack ng 2.8k..

[maton601]

During those time bro, ang presyo ng AP sa pitchblack ay almost 4k din.. kaya yung 3k na bentahan dati ay mura na.. lately na lang sila nag price drop sa Pitchblack ng 2.8k..

i'm just pointing out na it's not always win win meaning it's not always cheaper to buy it through online resellers, just sighted out an example sa pricing( my bad for that kinda wrong details) i know na di 2,8k ang srp nya dati sa AP in fact it's 3,8k when me and my hubby bought it 4 yrs. ago in AP Festival. But we did ask for a quotation from of a well-known reseller here sa PM and ang price nya is 4,5k. i hope you get my point na it's not always win-win. I mean we're not pro local music store, We also look for better deals online as well.  peace

[r_chino18]

On the other hand, maganda namang may mga gumagawa ng effort magdala ng mga produkto locally kahit small-scale lang ang operations. Pero wag naman yung bastusan na tipong produkto ng may produkto eh nakikisawsaw pa yung mga ibang importer. Okay lang sana kung yung mga produkto eh walang local representation (e.g. Empress effects, Menatone, Moody's Straps, ADA, etc. wala pang nagdadala ng mga to locally), pero hindi ganun ang nangyayari e. May mga nakikita pa ako paminsan na nagbebenta rin ng Pedaltrain kahit malinaw naman na EpicTone lang ang lisensyado magbenta ng Pedaltrain products dito sa Pilipinas. Meron din namang nagbebenta ng TC Electronic products na galing sa Amazon, eBay o kung saan mang online store kahit JB Music naman ang official local distributor. Kung ayaw ng consumer bumili sa mga local distributor dahil sa presyo, mas maganda pang bumili na lang yung mga consumer straight from the Internet kaysa sa dumaan pa sa mga di official na nagbebenta.

Well.. those authorized dealers should also do their part well, lalo na at authorized sila.. Pre-order and air freight items should arrive at the expected dates and not take too long, otherwise, mapipilitan yung consumer na maghanap ng ibang source na mas reliable.

With regards to prices, alam naman natin na ang mahal sa JB.. kaya natuturn off ang ibang "educated" sa price at naghahanap ng ibang means na maka-acquire.. Now, not all of them (or us) have the capability to buy straight from the internet, that's why idadaan nalang namin sa iba.

Much like cooking hotdog for breakfast and going to some tapsilog karinderya.. Madali lang magluto ng hotdog para sa iba, pero para dun sa ilan na ayaw mahassle sa pagbili ng hilaw na hotdog, bibili nalang sila sa karinderya kahit may konting patong.. In the end, you still get a cooked hotdog.

A good way to analyze this is to imagine being the official dealer of the brands that other people are importing. Anong mararamdaman ninyo kung ang produkto na pinag-ubusan ninyo ng panahon at pinaggastusan ninyong makuhanan ng distributorship, i-import, i-market at bilhan ng stocks eh nilalako lang ng ibang colorum na tindero sa presyong mababa sa profitable price point nyo? Basta makalamang lang at kumita, magbebenta pa rin nang magbebenta tong mga to. Ang Pinoy modo at etiketa nga naman talaga o.

Hehehe.. Competition eh.. Kung saan mas mura, kalimitan doon talaga ang punta.. Being the dealer, dapat sila mas may control sa prices.. for sure nakukuha nila yan ng mas mas mas mas mura kaysa sa nakikita nating online price, authorized dealer sila eh.. So if they want to keep up, siguro dapat maging competitive sila.. What's the R&D for? Dapat nakikita na nila yan..

I can't speak enough for ethics.. pero kasi, minsan yung consumer din naman talaga ang lumalapit dun sa importer para mag-ask ng isang particular item.. ang gagawin lang ng importer ay oorderin.

My stand is that I am against exclusive distributorship of music equipment products in the Philippines because it is anti-competitive and is anti-consumer due to price monopoly. BUT, if other people want to keep the major distributors honest with their prices, at least gawin naman nilang official yung pagcompete by making their businesses legitimate thru SEC/DTI/BIR and being official co-distributors of products that they want to sell. WALANG WARRANTY ang mga item na binili sa colorum na tindero, so a good starting point is to compete with the current distributors not just in PRICING but also in QUALITY OF SERVICE and AFTER-SALES SUPPORT.

In time siguro.. mahirap naman na starting business ka pa lang, wala ka pa masyadong tinutubo sa benta eh magbabayad na agad ng tax.. Ano naman yun diba? Nag business ka pa kung yung net income ay pupunta lang sa tax..

May iba namang registered.. pero yung iba, baka naman nagsisimula pa lang talaga..

As for warranty.. ang bilis ng turnaround ng items.. di pa tapos warranty, nasa ads na (lalo na for small items).. So some people could not care less with regards to warranty.. and mindset din ay "kilala" na yung brand kaya may peace of mind na may kalidad yung produkto.. hassle na lang sa part nila pag biglang nasira.. Kung gitara naman, wala namang warranty mga gitara sa stores eh..

Then again.. minsan nga hassle pa yung warranty ng stores eh.. peperahan ka lang sa parts, wait time, travel cost (sa pagdadala sa main repair branch), etc.. Most of the time nga hindi nila gamay yung produkto nila.. So where does the quality of service and after sales support come to play? hehe..

Sa mga tatamaan, wag sana kayo ma-offend. Mas maganda lang kung legal ang trabaho para hindi kayo mayari ng BIR pag nag-crackdown na sila sa small-scale importers.

All posted replies were just my opinions.  Maganda kung legal.. pero para dun sa mga legal na, ayus-ayusin naman nila ang trabaho.

[r_chino18]

i'm just pointing out na it's not always win win meaning it's not always cheaper to buy it through online resellers, just sighted out an example sa pricing( my bad for that kinda wrong details) i know na di 2,8k ang srp nya dati sa AP in fact it's 3,8k when me and my hubby bought it 4 yrs. ago in AP Festival. But we did ask for a quotation from of a well-known reseller here sa PM and ang price nya is 4,5k. i hope you get my point na it's not always win-win. I mean we're not pro local music store, We also look for better deals online as well.  peace

No worries bro.  in all honestly, I think Audiophile has a fair pricing. Ngayong nag price drop sila ng pitchblack, mas mahirap na silang tapatan.

Shippers will just price it according sa internet price + shipping cost + patong... Nagkakataon lang talaga minsan na mas mataas ang patong ng local stores kaya nagiging mas mura yung pinapaquote from shippers despite the shipping cost and patong..

Peace. 

[shredmaestrobri]

Dapat mkpag tie up sla n rin sa lazada hehe

[gainsucker]

-sometimes there are items not carried by our local guitar shops and the only way to get them is to purchase them online...

-most of the time, items in our local guitar shops are not updated (old models, sometimes discontinued) / you may sometimes get rusty strings if you are unlucky

-sometimes sobrang mahal ng tinda ng local guitar shops 

[Poundcake]

Well.. those authorized dealers should also do their part well, lalo na at authorized sila.. Pre-order and air freight items should arrive at the expected dates and not take too long, otherwise, mapipilitan yung consumer na maghanap ng ibang source na mas reliable.

With regards to prices, alam naman natin na ang mahal sa JB.. kaya natuturn off ang ibang "educated" sa price at naghahanap ng ibang means na maka-acquire.. Now, not all of them (or us) have the capability to buy straight from the internet, that's why idadaan nalang namin sa iba.

Much like cooking hotdog for breakfast and going to some tapsilog karinderya.. Madali lang magluto ng hotdog para sa iba, pero para dun sa ilan na ayaw mahassle sa pagbili ng hilaw na hotdog, bibili nalang sila sa karinderya kahit may konting patong.. In the end, you still get a cooked hotdog.

Wrong analogy, bro. Ang hotdog na hilaw na niluluto ng mga carinderia ay binili lang locally at hindi exclusive gamitin at ibenta ng piling mga tao o kumpanya. At kung yung proseso ng katamaran sa pagluto ng hilaw na hotdog ang pino-point out mo, then it's the cooking service that you're talking about, not the commodity itself (the cooked hotdog). Hindi ganun sa trading. Kung hindi ka legally entitled magbenta ng cooked hotdog, then hindi ka talaga dapat nagbebenta nun. Otherwise, illegal seller ka dahil di ka naman authorized. Madali lang naman ang solution dun: i-register ang negosyo (hindi to mahal, sa totoo lang) at mag-apply sa manufacturer bilang co-distributor. Mas makakalamang pa nga kayo kung gawin nyo nun kasi dealer rates ang makukuha nyo at hindi lang Internet shop rates so hindi problema ang ROI dun.

Hehehe.. Competition eh.. Kung saan mas mura, kalimitan doon talaga ang punta.. Being the dealer, dapat sila mas may control sa prices.. for sure nakukuha nila yan ng mas mas mas mas mura kaysa sa nakikita nating online price, authorized dealer sila eh.. So if they want to keep up, siguro dapat maging competitive sila.. What's the R&D for? Dapat nakikita na nila yan..

I can't speak enough for ethics.. pero kasi, minsan yung consumer din naman talaga ang lumalapit dun sa importer para mag-ask ng isang particular item.. ang gagawin lang ng importer ay oorderin.

Yun na nga, puro presyo at mura lang kasi ang iniisip, wala nang pakialam kung nakakasagasa na ng iba. Yun lang ang sinasabi ko. The independent importers have gotten a free ride on advertising thru PhilMusic, but this is one of the issues that we're currently discussing about.

In time siguro.. mahirap naman na starting business ka pa lang, wala ka pa masyadong tinutubo sa benta eh magbabayad na agad ng tax.. Ano naman yun diba? Nag business ka pa kung yung net income ay pupunta lang sa tax..

May iba namang registered.. pero yung iba, baka naman nagsisimula pa lang talaga..

In time? The last time I checked, requirement ang SEC/DTI registration, business at BIR permit PRIOR to starting business operations. Walang test run test run yun. Kung sa tingin nyo malulugi kayo kung magbayad kayo ng buwis, ang ibig sabihin nun sablay ang business model nyo so magre-tweak kayo ng business model at value chain nyo para ang neto eh kumita pa rin kayo nang maayos after tax. It won't cost you an arm and a leg, bro.

As for warranty.. ang bilis ng turnaround ng items.. di pa tapos warranty, nasa ads na (lalo na for small items).. So some people could not care less with regards to warranty.. and mindset din ay "kilala" na yung brand kaya may peace of mind na may kalidad yung produkto.. hassle na lang sa part nila pag biglang nasira.. Kung gitara naman, wala namang warranty mga gitara sa stores eh..

Then again.. minsan nga hassle pa yung warranty ng stores eh.. peperahan ka lang sa parts, wait time, travel cost (sa pagdadala sa main repair branch), etc.. Most of the time nga hindi nila gamay yung produkto nila.. So where does the quality of service and after sales support come to play? hehe..

Culture na lang yun dito. Pero kung matino kang kumpanya, naturalmente yun na kasama ang after-sales support pag nagbebenta ka ng gamit. Sales din ang trabaho ko kaya alam ko ang value ng after-sales support. In terms of music equipment, pwedeng direct replacement agad yun pag may nasira. Pwede ring libre na ang repair for the duration of the warranty period. Maraming bumibili pa rin ng mga major items tulad ng amp at gitara sa mga major distributors dahil sa after-sales support. Isipin mo na lang kung rehistrado ang business mo, legit distributor ka at may after-sales services kang mas matino kaysa sa ino-offer nung mga ibang kumpanya? That's the time na mapapaisip sila na kailangan na nilang ayus-ayusin ang presyo at serbisyo nila.

Pero oo, agree ako na medyo walang kwenta ang after-sales support ng mga major distributors pag gitara ang item.

All posted replies were just my opinions.  Maganda kung legal.. pero para dun sa mga legal na, ayus-ayusin naman nila ang trabaho.

Agreed. Nakikita naman natin ang mga sablay nung mga big boys at may opportunity naman tayo para higitan yun. Kaya sa mga maliliit na negosyo, ayus-ayusin na rin sana yung mga basics tulad ng business registration para makagawa kayo ng impact dito sa industriya. I'm with everyone as far as having more competitive pricing is concerned (e.g. kampeon pa rin yung P25k list price nung TC Electronic Nova Delay sa JB Music, solid sa taga), but we gotta do it the right way.

[Musikerochan]

On the other hand, maganda namang may mga gumagawa ng effort magdala ng mga produkto locally kahit small-scale lang ang operations. Pero wag naman yung bastusan na tipong produkto ng may produkto eh nakikisawsaw pa yung mga ibang importer. Okay lang sana kung yung mga produkto eh walang local representation (e.g. Empress effects, Menatone, Moody's Straps, ADA, etc. wala pang nagdadala ng mga to locally), pero hindi ganun ang nangyayari e. May mga nakikita pa ako paminsan na nagbebenta rin ng Pedaltrain kahit malinaw naman na EpicTone lang ang lisensyado magbenta ng Pedaltrain products dito sa Pilipinas. Meron din namang nagbebenta ng TC Electronic products na galing sa Amazon, eBay o kung saan mang online store kahit JB Music naman ang official local distributor. Kung ayaw ng consumer bumili sa mga local distributor dahil sa presyo, mas maganda pang bumili na lang yung mga consumer straight from the Internet kaysa sa dumaan pa sa mga di official na nagbebenta.

A good way to analyze this is to imagine being the official dealer of the brands that other people are importing. Anong mararamdaman ninyo kung ang produkto na pinag-ubusan ninyo ng panahon at pinaggastusan ninyong makuhanan ng distributorship, i-import, i-market at bilhan ng stocks eh nilalako lang ng ibang colorum na tindero sa presyong mababa sa profitable price point nyo? Basta makalamang lang at kumita, magbebenta pa rin nang magbebenta tong mga to. Ang Pinoy modo at etiketa nga naman talaga o.

My stand is that I am against exclusive distributorship of music equipment products in the Philippines because it is anti-competitive and is anti-consumer due to price monopoly. BUT, if other people want to keep the major distributors honest with their prices, at least gawin naman nilang official yung pagcompete by making their businesses legitimate thru SEC/DTI/BIR and being official co-distributors of products that they want to sell. WALANG WARRANTY ang mga item na binili sa colorum na tindero, so a good starting point is to compete with the current distributors not just in PRICING but also in QUALITY OF SERVICE and AFTER-SALES SUPPORT.

Sa mga tatamaan, wag sana kayo ma-offend. Mas maganda lang kung legal ang trabaho para hindi kayo mayari ng BIR pag nag-crackdown na sila sa small-scale importers.

went to our municipality's BIR office last Jan. 25 (friday) to inquire about DTI registration since i plan to have one project go full scale na. too bad sa Lipa ko pa daw kelangan magrehistro sa DTI (which is napakalayo from Nasugbu). considering doing the online DTI registration instead. yay or nay?

[jefisipbata]

went to our municipality's BIR office last Jan. 25 (friday) to inquire about DTI registration since i plan to have one project go full scale na. too bad sa Lipa ko pa daw kelangan magrehistro sa DTI (which is napakalayo from Nasugbu). considering doing the online DTI registration instead. yay or nay?

go for online bro.

[Poundcake]

went to our municipality's BIR office last Jan. 25 (friday) to inquire about DTI registration since i plan to have one project go full scale na. too bad sa Lipa ko pa daw kelangan magrehistro sa DTI (which is napakalayo from Nasugbu). considering doing the online DTI registration instead. yay or nay?

Mukhang okay yung online registration, pero personally, mas proven sa akin yung mano-mano registration. I have yet to try the online thing kaya di ko mare-recommend yung online sayo. One-time lang naman yun, paglaanan mo lang ng isang araw. Makakapunta ka naman from Nasugbu to Lipa nang mas mabilis (although hindi pa rin malapit, hehe) via Star Tollway (thru Tagaytay). Pagdating sa BIR naman, maghanap ka lang ng retainer who will do your books, print receipt books and go to the BIR office to pay for your taxes. Mura lang din yun.

Pedal project yan, I assume? Go for it, bro.

[jefisipbata]

sabagay olats ang websites ng mga government agencies. bago ka pala pumunta alamin mo na din kung saang zone ka under (most probably isa lang yan sa case mo) ako kase nun, sa pasig yung business address kaso nung pumunta ako sa dti office sa tapat ng megamall, pina punta ako sa DTI makati kase dun daw naka zone yung lugar namin. so onting research muna bago bumiyahe para di sayang ang oras. go to entrepreneur.com.ph andaming useful info dun tungkol sa process ng business registration

[Musikerochan]

yep man. been thinking of releasing one na tipong level-up ba. been working closely with kevin regarding the project and realized had to register na para legal, lalo na sa place namin sinisilip ng mga kapitbahay ang mga "negosyo" ultimo tindahang maliit (when they themselves have kin/friends who arent registered; that's another story). hence medyo na-alarm ako konti when i learned that BIR is going after online sellers; it seems BIR is one step ahead ah hehehe.

by February tapos na siguro registration ko. yung trip to Lipa lang ang medyo pinaghahandaan ko. tamad ako mag-commute eh. delikado naman pag byahe.

hinde. tamad lang talaga ako bumiyahe hehehe.

actually excited ako magbigay ng resibo lol!

[nickson]

yep man. been thinking of releasing one na tipong level-up ba. been working closely with kevin regarding the project and realized had to register na para legal, lalo na sa place namin sinisilip ng mga kapitbahay ang mga "negosyo" ultimo tindahang maliit (when they themselves have kin/friends who arent registered; that's another story). hence medyo na-alarm ako konti when i learned that BIR is going after online sellers; it seems BIR is one step ahead ah hehehe.

by February tapos na siguro registration ko. yung trip to Lipa lang ang medyo pinaghahandaan ko. tamad ako mag-commute eh. delikado naman pag byahe.

hinde. tamad lang talaga ako bumiyahe hehehe.

actually excited ako magbigay ng resibo lol!

Dalhin naten ke burgs mga pedals mo bro!

[Poundcake]

Dalhin naten ke burgs mga pedals mo bro!

Good luck lang sa video demo fees. I heard (but not confirmed) he charges $50 per hour for all related pedal demo work. This includes setting up the equipment, actual recording of the demo video and post-processing. Hehe.

[nickson]

Good luck lang sa video demo fees. I heard (but not confirmed) he charges $50 per hour for all related pedal demo work. This includes setting up the equipment, actual recording of the demo video and post-processing. Hehe.

Oo nga eh, medyo mahal daw sumingil. Try ko i-confirm hehe. I can send some his way kung gugustuhin ni ZABFx 

[Musikerochan]

Dalhin naten ke burgs mga pedals mo bro!

lulz di na siguro. bukod sa kung anumang fees, parang desperate naman ako kung papadala ko talaga lol! sa ngayon pokus muna sa legal side of things.

nga pala, cutie pie yung BIR person nung town namin (Tuy). parang sarap magbayad ng tax lagi hehehe.

[nickson]

lulz di na siguro. bukod sa kung anumang fees, parang desperate naman ako kung papadala ko talaga lol! sa ngayon pokus muna sa legal side of things.

nga pala, cutie pie yung BIR person nung town namin (Tuy). parang sarap magbayad ng tax lagi hehehe.

Kabayan! Batangas City ako bro. Ehehe.. wait meron ako tropa na nagtatanong about Zabfx. PM kita.

[Al_Librero]

It's sad to hear Allan's/Billy Hyde Music in trouble. Magkahiwalay pa sila nung nasa Brisbane ako. I bought my Cole Clark there. Medyo mahal kumpara sa Audiophile or even Yupangco in some instances (yes, that's right). But a great store nonetheless. Saan na ako makakabibili nung Kwik Fret pag napadpad ulit ako ng Australia? (Arjin?  )

I knew a lot of physical shops were going to get in trouble the moment more people started bitching, bakit ang mahal niyan, e ganito lang yan sa musiciansfriend.com. But if our local companies are smart enough, I'm sure they will find different ways to move with the times. It's either that or they'll be left behind.

[randymarsh]

It's sad to hear Allan's/Billy Hyde Music in trouble. Magkahiwalay pa sila nung nasa Brisbane ako. I bought my Cole Clark there. Medyo mahal kumpara sa Audiophile or even Yupangco in some instances (yes, that's right). But a great store nonetheless. Saan na ako makakabibili nung Kwik Fret pag napadpad ulit ako ng Australia? (Arjin?  )

Yes magkahiwalay sila dati then binili ng Allans Music lahat ng Billy Hyde. Let me check the Kwik Fret, I buy one for you para hindi ka na mahirapan maghanap.

I knew a lot of physical shops were going to get in trouble the moment more people started bitching, bakit ang mahal niyan, e ganito lang yan sa musiciansfriend.com. But if our local companies are smart enough, I'm sure they will find different ways to move with the times. It's either that or they'll be left behind.

Actually yan ang debate dito ng consumers sa ibang forum. Tulad nalang sa groceries dito merong Coles, Woolworths at Aldi's. Cheapest and Aldi's pero they stock no name brands at minimal lang ang employees nila while Woolworths and Coles mas mahal ng konti dahil malaki ang overhead nila. The good thing here in AU is their values towards the working class. The extra dollar paid for an item ensures na ang employees nila is rightfully paid, which is the opposite ng ginagawa ng Aldi's (german owned). I read somewhere that Allan's music supported their employees para makahanap ng ibang work at hindi naman sila makawawa kapag nagsara na yun company. 

Sa tingin ko madali lang mag-adapt sa technology. Yung maaapektuhan ng closure/downsize ang mahihirapan.

At nung teenager ako, dalawang reason lang kaya ako pumupunta sa mall. It's either to play video games or to see the nice guitars on display. Kawawa naman yung kabataan kung sa internet nalang sila makakakita ng magandang gamit. 

[Rmansh]

Good luck lang sa video demo fees. I heard (but not confirmed) he charges $50 per hour for all related pedal demo work. This includes setting up the equipment, actual recording of the demo video and post-processing. Hehe.

100 /hr.