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Title: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on April 26, 2007, 11:28:24 AM
Aside from Bad Monkey, what's a good stand alone stock overdrive that has big bottom sound and sustain? I heard that SD-1 can take away your Bass tone... Blues Driver they say has annoying chicken picking sound? How about OD3? Kinda steep for the price compared with other Boss pedals... worth it?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: BAMF on April 26, 2007, 11:35:43 AM
modified Denio SD10 super overdrive.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: haey2 on April 26, 2007, 11:37:53 AM
ei marvin...get an 2nd hand SD1 or a DS1 and have it modded by BAMF.. im sure, makukuha mo yun tunog na hanap mo...i would suggest SD2 kaso mahirap maghanap nun eh...good luck man 8-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on April 26, 2007, 11:40:32 AM
ei marvin...get an 2nd hand SD1 or a DS1 and have it modded by BAMF.. im sure, makukuha mo yun tunog na hanap mo...i would suggest SD2 kaso mahirap maghanap nun eh...good luck man 8-)

Thanks BAMF and Yeye!  :lol: How about just stock Overdrives? What do you guys recommend?  :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Kulas on April 26, 2007, 11:44:41 AM
TS-9 or 808. ok din yung tube driver, hehe.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on April 26, 2007, 11:47:08 AM
TS-9 or 808. ok din yung tube driver, hehe.

Nice... Moderator na pala kayo Kulas and BAMF!  :-D Dati pa ako GAS sa TS9 eh... ano bang magiging boost if ever? TS9 or yung BadMonkey? Fan kasi ako ng cascading two OD's

Thanks bro!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: BAMF on April 26, 2007, 11:49:01 AM
Boston OD100. Overdrive architecture, but with the gain of a distortion. Even when stock.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on April 26, 2007, 11:51:11 AM
@threadstarter

you are right! the OD-3 is the best BOSS od that sustains and can be tone-rounded the price speaks for it self of 6k
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Kulas on April 26, 2007, 11:58:51 AM
TS-9 or 808. ok din yung tube driver, hehe.

Nice... Moderator na pala kayo Kulas and BAMF!  :-D Dati pa ako GAS sa TS9 eh... ano bang magiging boost if ever? TS9 or yung BadMonkey? Fan kasi ako ng cascading two OD's

Thanks bro!

thanks bro! hehehe.

pang boost? hmmm, nasa panlasa mo na yun eh. actually, halos pareho lang yung tonal quality nung TS-9 at badmonkey, mas bilog lang at klaro yung TS-9. sa chain ko, TS-9 + SD-1, yung TS-9 ko yung boost. yung timpla ko sa TS-9 low gain lang, parang clean boost sha. tapos yung SD-1, low gain din. hindi din kasi ako mahilig sa mashadong hi-gain na OD eh. yun, sakto lang tunog nun for me, hehehe.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kurtcobainer on April 26, 2007, 12:02:35 PM
@threadstarter

you are right! the OD-3 is the best BOSS od that sustains and can be tone-rounded the price speaks for it self of 6k

+ 1

I use the OD-3 as my main dirt pedal combined with an SD-1 as booster:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on April 26, 2007, 12:12:37 PM
BD-2 is tone-rounded but I guess would have lesser sustain,drive compared to OD-3.

BM daw is a good alternative though I haven't tested it myself, for a price of 2.5k which is cheaper
but can the BM be a really stand alone overdrive?

I am currently seeking for the best OD too I will cascade it with my multifx zoom G1x ( I am contented with the modulation offered by this baby, but for the drive it still sounds un-natural to me  :oops:)

boston OD100 is not cool, my ears pledge to its dismay
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fade2black0520 on April 26, 2007, 12:13:48 PM
the od3 compared to the sd1 has more volume..... the od3 is so loud with all knobs at 12 o clock it's like having the volume of the sd1 at 3 oclock. its also cleaner and has lesser mids than the sd1.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Kulas on April 26, 2007, 12:18:01 PM
medyo matalas ang BD-2 for my taste, although it has its applications. i haven't tried the OD-3 so i can't post a review on that. yung badmonkey, IMO, i don't think it could stand as a standalone pedal, unless hindi mo kailangan ng boost for solos. ok na yung badmonkey for dirty rhythm and blues licks.

ganito na lang pre, bili ka ng dalawang badmonkey, bale 5k lang yun, tapos cascade mo, hehehe. joke!

i've heard the boston OD-100, medyo matapang sha at matalas. very harsh pag stock. dunno pag modded na.

ah, best standalone OD. contact mo si ejbasses. panalo yung kalikot audio OD nya, pagawa ka. it has enough grit and hair and thickness to stand alone.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on April 26, 2007, 12:23:18 PM
Quote
ganito na lang pre, bili ka ng dalawang badmonkey, bale 5k lang yun, tapos cascade mo, hehehe. joke!

lol! para kang nag rent ng 2 movie ng spiderman2 na vhs para pwede mo pang panuorin ulit

hahaha
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on April 26, 2007, 12:24:33 PM
Nice... G.A.S. 'to sa OD3 + TS9/5 + BM... Sayang wala tayong boutique pedals masyado dito bukod kila BAMF and EJ.

Thanks! Keep it cummin!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Kulas on April 26, 2007, 12:27:35 PM
best bet ko jan yung kay EJ, hehe. nasubukan ko na eh, makapal, smooth at sakto lang yung OD nya.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poundcake on April 26, 2007, 12:31:24 PM
if you're looking for an unmodded overdrive stompbox, the OD-3 is the best one available locally. it outperforms the more expensive TS-808 (has more grit and "breathes" more) and it's a bit more transparent as well. i'm even using it now as a clean booster. P5,950 (Yupangco price) for the OD-3 is much, much more worth it than the P9.1k TS-808. the Bad Monkey has too much mid hump for my taste, but it does have its good qualities (it's great for for light jazz OD tones). try mo OD-3 + SD-1 with the OD-3 as your main dirt pedal. that combo will definitely work great :)

nahanap mo na ba yung lost gear mo pare?
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: vaisteen2003 on April 26, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
im satisfied with my SD 2. stand alone pero 2 channels. pero if paired with BM, BM ung main dirt ko and boost ung lead channel ng SD 2 and very very light break up ung crunch channel ng SD 2
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on April 26, 2007, 12:38:18 PM
if you're looking for an unmodded overdrive stompbox, the OD-3 is the best one available locally. it outperforms the more expensive TS-808 (has more grit and "breathes" more) and it's a bit more transparent as well. i'm even using it now as a clean booster. P5,950 (Yupangco price) for the OD-3 is much, much more worth it than the P9.1k TS-808. the Bad Monkey has too much mid hump for my taste, but it does have its good qualities (it's great for for light jazz OD tones). try mo OD-3 + SD-1 with the OD-3 as your main dirt pedal. that combo will definitely work great :)

Hey Ian... wazzup. OD3 it is then and maybe BM / SD1. Hindi kasi ako masyadong fan ng Boss... Let's see sa payday.. I will complete all my setup again!  :-D

nahanap mo na ba yung lost gear mo pare?

Wala na bro.... haaay... nabenta na raw yata sa Raon. So siguro look put na rin muna ako sa pedals sa Quiapo. Baka kahit paano eh mabili ko ulit iba kong gamit dun. Buti na lang nga an mabait parents ko na bigyan muna ako ng GAS money this 30th para maka simula muna ulit.

Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: sbalbaguio2006 on April 26, 2007, 12:41:20 PM
visual sound jekyll n hyde!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poundcake on April 26, 2007, 12:46:29 PM
that's great! God giveth and God taketh away, but when He replaces your stuff, better ang dadating na bago :wink:

kung Bad Monkey ang bibilhin mo, better use it as your main dirt pedal then ipangboost mo yung OD-3. transparency is the key for clean boosting. ayos din ang kalalabasan nyan. i've used the Bad Monkey as a booster to fuzz pedals though, and ayos naman kasi naturally ma-mid naman ang fuzz. spottan mo yung sa Buy and Sell, may nakita akong nagbebenta ng OD-3 for P3.7k a few weeks back. sana available pa yun para sayo..
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on April 26, 2007, 12:49:40 PM
I really don't have much budget of 6k for the OD-3, I think for the meantime I will go for the BM since it has a 2 band eq. I can pretty tweak my sound I guess. (posted sa classified LF: Badmonkey baka meron kayo kilala nag-bebenta)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: ECUA on April 26, 2007, 12:51:16 PM
that's great! God giveth and God taketh away, but when He replaces your stuff, better ang dadating na bago :wink:

kung Bad Monkey ang bibilhin mo, better use it as your main dirt pedal then ipangboost mo yung OD-3. transparency is the key for clean boosting. ayos din ang kalalabasan nyan. i've used the Bad Monkey as a booster to fuzz pedals though, and ayos naman kasi naturally ma-mid naman ang fuzz. spottan mo yung sa Buy and Sell, may nakita akong nagbebenta ng OD-3 for P3.7k a few weeks back. sana available pa yun para sayo..

check this link: OD3 for 3.5K

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,44618.0.html
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poundcake on April 26, 2007, 12:54:12 PM
o ayan tirahin nyo na!! :)

ready, get set......... GAS!!! :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on April 26, 2007, 12:55:16 PM
Ako lang yata nakaka appreciate ng BD-2 hehe, na-try ko din kasi yung OD-3 nung binili ko yung BD-2, mas nagustuhan ko yung BD for some strange reason....well kasi mas mura!haha! :lol:
Clean boost lang naman gamit ko sa kanya pero I tried turning up the gain and ok naman yung dirt sound niya, stands up to its name hehe. :-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on April 26, 2007, 01:06:40 PM
Ako lang yata nakaka appreciate ng BD-2 hehe, na-try ko din kasi yung OD-3 nung binili ko yung BD-2, mas nagustuhan ko yung BD for some strange reason....well kasi mas mura!haha! :lol:
Clean boost lang naman gamit ko sa kanya pero I tried turning up the gain and ok naman yung dirt sound niya, stands up to its name hehe. :-)

I agree I find the BD-2 more sound-appealing kasi I'm more sa bluesy tone

btw dude have you tried comparing the BD-2 vs. BM?
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on April 26, 2007, 01:11:08 PM
Sorry chief never tried the BM, wala kasing chance, pero if it's close to a ts9 or ts808, mas gusto ko pa rin BD-2, I don't want my clean boost to be too clean hehe, may konting dirt pa rin dapat. :-)
Problem I encountered with a ts808, kapag minimal gain yung set-up ko masyadong malinis, then if I subtly raise the gain anlaki nung difference hehe. Di ko alam kung ganun talaga yun o baka may topak yung na-try ko haha! :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: BAMF on April 26, 2007, 01:22:39 PM
Haay. Tagal na na-solve yang mga problema mo. Make the time to visit. Then make up your mind :D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kurtcobainer on April 26, 2007, 01:25:31 PM
if you're looking for an unmodded overdrive stompbox, the OD-3 is the best one available locally. it outperforms the more expensive TS-808 (has more grit and "breathes" more) and it's a bit more transparent as well. i'm even using it now as a clean booster. P5,950 (Yupangco price) for the OD-3 is much, much more worth it than the P9.1k TS-808. the Bad Monkey has too much mid hump for my taste, but it does have its good qualities (it's great for for light jazz OD tones). try mo OD-3 + SD-1 with the OD-3 as your main dirt pedal. that combo will definitely work great :)

Ganitong-ganito ang ginagawa ko. :-D :-D :-D

Hope you find the OD that'll suit your taste :-D :-D :-D

I heard that Yamaha gives 10% discount for cash buyers. Pero kung available pa yung nasa Buy and Sell, grab it na! Great buy na yun!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on April 26, 2007, 01:29:34 PM
that's great! God giveth and God taketh away, but when He replaces your stuff, better ang dadating na bago :wink:

Thanks bro. Yan nga sinasabi ko eh... kaya kung nanakaw eh MIC lang, il make sure na MIJ/ MIK ang susunod kong guitar. And I will add more to my pedals... maybe a total of 10! 6 kasi yung nawala eh...  :-D

Hey ECUA... thanks sa link. Reserved na sa akin. OD3 down... next OD please. Hhehe..
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on April 26, 2007, 02:17:15 PM
wahhhhhhhh! sayo pala na reserve yun! balak ko rin score yun e hehe. :lol:

anyway guys is the boss od-2 (turbo OD) good for boost?With turbo off of course...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: ECUA on April 26, 2007, 02:47:07 PM
that's great! God giveth and God taketh away, but when He replaces your stuff, better ang dadating na bago :wink:

Thanks bro. Yan nga sinasabi ko eh... kaya kung nanakaw eh MIC lang, il make sure na MIJ/ MIK ang susunod kong guitar. And I will add more to my pedals... maybe a total of 10! 6 kasi yung nawala eh...  :-D

Hey ECUA... thanks sa link. Reserved na sa akin. OD3 down... next OD please. Hhehe..

no prob, bro... balak ko sanang i-score-in din, kaya lang no budget pa, so i think, sa iyo na lang....
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: meashuggahr on April 26, 2007, 02:53:18 PM
tried this:) ts 808/route 66 tapos gawing booster ang od3 or vise versa.  + at the end of drive peds BBE stinger. :-D

barbarian tone :)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Chito on April 26, 2007, 05:18:55 PM
If you really like the BMs, why not cascade 2 of them. Have one with the gain all the way down as your boost. Adjust the tone on either one to suit your taste.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on April 26, 2007, 10:49:50 PM
Hey guys I bought a Boss OS-2 earlier from ranjin sa classifieds. Ganda pala nung pedal (except for the scratchy pots) lalo na yung mix na knob!It's getting a cross between an SD-1 and a DS-1!Well sort of...di naman gayang-gaya siyempre hehe. :lol:
I cascade it with a BD-2 and tried a lot of possible combinations but there was 2 specifically that I liked but had to choose one (ayoko kasing tumuwad-tuwad habang tumutugtog)
here were my settings:
1)OS-2 dirt pedal:level 3 o'clock(it's hard to level this pedal a bit louder than the bypass, medyo mahina);tone 12 o'clock;drive 2 o'clock; mix 1 o'clock.
BD-2 boost pedal:level 3 o'clock;tone 9 o'clock;gain 9 o'clock
OS-2 sounded like a tamed DS-1 (without the excessive hiss at high gain and not too trebly) and the BD-2 boost was so clear (as expected from this pedal) I could still hear the clarity of my EMG's!
Cascaded it sounded ok as lead, since I use a behringer cs100 for sustain and behringer eq700 to eliminate unwanted highs.
2)BD-2 dirt pedal: level 12; tone 12; gain 3(in terms of clock positions hehe)
OS-2 boost pedal: level 4; tone 9; drive 7; mix 9(in terms of clock position again)
Definitely the BD-2 stands out in terms of crunch, grabe made me sound like someone from London nung 70's haha! The OS-2 wasn't as clear as the BD-2 in terms of clean boost (kahit zero drive basta inangat mo yung mix knob magkakagain siya ng konti) but still brings out the natural sound of the guitar with a bit of dirt (it's an OD pedal doy...)
Cascaded...well I thought for a while I was in tone heaven...specially with the cs and eq...

I chose the latter setting for now...may Proco VRAT pa kasi na madadagdag!hehe. But this combination works for me!hehe :lol:
Totally blew away the pre-amp section of my G7!Well expected na un, zoom vs boss in terms of drive?Go figure it out...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: nuno on April 26, 2007, 11:03:00 PM
Fulltone fulldrive 2 !

 :-D

hell yeah!!  :evil:

sd-2 rin panalo...  :-)

Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: jasoncruz_rocks on April 27, 2007, 02:33:29 AM
IBANEZ SMASHBOX
the pedal that changed my life :-D
a lot of people buy it, and, think why you dont see in on the B and S forum :lol:
3k lang!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: danleo on April 28, 2007, 01:50:32 AM
BD-2 is tone-rounded but I guess would have lesser sustain,drive compared to OD-3.

BM daw is a good alternative though I haven't tested it myself, for a price of 2.5k which is cheaper
but can the BM be a really stand alone overdrive?

I am currently seeking for the best OD too I will cascade it with my multifx zoom G1x ( I am contented with the modulation offered by this baby, but for the drive it still sounds un-natural to me  :oops:)

boston OD100 is not cool, my ears pledge to its dismay


Nasa pag timpla lang yan bro. I use it together with my ZOOM G1 and mganda naman ang ung mga nakukuha kong tones from Boston OD. :) Peace!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: rainierito on April 28, 2007, 02:59:27 AM
j-drive mk3 ng diamond pedals... lagi kong tntest sa music shop, kasi alang pera hanggang dun lang ako, runnin it thru a bassman or twin reverb... beri good pidal ehehehe... gandang alternative for the fulldrive, pero mahal pa rin.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on April 28, 2007, 10:36:17 AM
to those who cascade with multi's...guys for a time I felt content with my Zoom G7 with a tube and all...when I only had one guitar,a Flying V . But when I had a strat as well...I immediately noticed something...dreadful tone suck by the pre-amp section of the G7...I couldn't hear the sound of my beautiful strat with EMG's specially with the EXG on...when I bought a BD-2 nung sale sa yupangco...wala na dun ko na narealize...I'M NEVER USING MULTI FX DRIVE AGAIN...even at low gain settings sa G7 I just couldn't hear the sound of my strat...now I just have one enormous mod effects with an exp pedal...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: akosimic on April 28, 2007, 10:52:17 AM
hmm i'll probably suggest an amp modeller like the behringer gdi 21. pwede stand alone, pwede rin main dirt.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: BAMF on April 28, 2007, 10:57:31 AM
Bad trip lang sa GDI21...ayaw nya ng me kasama syang ibang pedal at naka-off sya. Grabe tonesucker ! If you're gonna use this one, use a Bypass looper with it. Or have it converted to true bypass :D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: akosimic on April 28, 2007, 11:07:52 AM
hmm di ko lang gets itong part na ito. kase parang wala akong napansin nung gumamit ako ng gdi21 dati.

Bad trip lang sa GDI21...ayaw nya ng me kasama syang ibang pedal at naka-off sya.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: BAMF on April 28, 2007, 11:12:50 AM
Like if say naka-chain sya sa DS1 at nauna ang DS1. Pag in-off mo ang GDI at in-on mo ang DS1, sisipsipin ng GDI yung tunog ng DS1. Pag sya naman ang una, sisipsipin nya ang tunog ng gitara mo.

Maganda lang sya pag naka-on :D. Pag hindi, ang tindi nya sumipsip. Hindi masarap. Ang tunog.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on April 28, 2007, 11:26:23 AM
Boss OS-2 Dual overdrive or the Korg Classic Overdrive

both tailored to have cruch and lead

almost the same sila
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: CARABAO on April 28, 2007, 11:54:01 AM
Like if say naka-chain sya sa DS1 at nauna ang DS1. Pag in-off mo ang GDI at in-on mo ang DS1, sisipsipin ng GDI yung tunog ng DS1. Pag sya naman ang una, sisipsipin nya ang tunog ng gitara mo.

Maganda lang sya pag naka-on :D. Pag hindi, ang tindi nya sumipsip. Hindi masarap. Ang tunog.

+1. hindi lulusot ang tunog ng kahit anong pedal sa gdi (pag huli yung gdi)..
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: haey2 on April 28, 2007, 11:58:08 AM
Boss OS-2 Dual overdrive or the Korg Classic Overdrive

both tailored to have cruch and lead

almost the same sila

baka SD2...right bro? 8-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: akosimic on April 28, 2007, 12:01:31 PM
Like if say naka-chain sya sa DS1 at nauna ang DS1. Pag in-off mo ang GDI at in-on mo ang DS1, sisipsipin ng GDI yung tunog ng DS1. Pag sya naman ang una, sisipsipin nya ang tunog ng gitara mo.

Maganda lang sya pag naka-on :D. Pag hindi, ang tindi nya sumipsip. Hindi masarap. Ang tunog.

+1. hindi lulusot ang tunog ng kahit anong pedal sa gdi (pag huli yung gdi)..


hmm gets. sabagay, when i used a gdi it was always on nun.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Bart on April 28, 2007, 12:13:39 PM
Right now I'm digging my Barber LTD. It's a very smooth low gain OD. Very slight mid hump with just the right amount of crunchiness. Sounds great when stacked with the Crunch Box or with the Fulldrive 2.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Shekoski on April 30, 2007, 07:31:58 PM
Personally, I dig the Boss BD-2. Nice, fat overdrive.  :wink:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: deathbystroke on April 30, 2007, 08:11:54 PM
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Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on May 01, 2007, 03:23:28 AM
Personally, I dig the Boss BD-2. Nice, fat overdrive.  :wink:

+1,000,000!

the BD-2 will always be my main dirt pedal kahit stock!Mas maganda kapag na phat mod na! :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: deltaslim on May 01, 2007, 07:41:08 AM
Aside from Bad Monkey, what's a good stand alone stock overdrive that has big bottom sound and sustain? I heard that SD-1 can take away your Bass tone... Blues Driver they say has annoying chicken picking sound? How about OD3? Kinda steep for the price compared with other Boss pedals... worth it?

Thanks!

Mukhang most of the suggestions turned into what people prefer as their own ODs. :-)

If your strict about your requirements re big bottom and sustain,  baka OD3 at BM ang best bet mo sa local mass-produced pedals.  OD3 has the best, big bottom altho it does not have as smooth and round tone vs. other ODs; neither does it clip like a TS (it's very transparent, like a cranked amp talaga, warts and all).  The BM has bass and treble controls so you can add bass to taste and attenuate the highs for a rounder tone.  It clips and compresses like a TS so it sustains nicely.  But I don't like the click and lack of dynamic control via the gtr vol.

Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: vegetablejoe on May 01, 2007, 09:42:38 AM
yup, knightburn's orig. info request was for a "stand-alone" pedal with bass and sustain

The BM has the tweakable bass (and treble) control. From my experience with it, with bass on max on a 25w Fender Champ amp (hybrid), that was enough to rattle all the glass inside the house. With a stronger 40w all tube amp, that was enough to shake the walls and ceiling.  :-D

The OD-3 is a louder, but pre-set, mofo than the BM...  no separate bass knob to tweak

Either pedal will give you lots of bass with an amp with a 12" speaker.

But like deltaslim said, the BM doesn't clean up nicely when you back off your guitar's vol. knob...

OT: delta.... what did you mean by "click"?
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: blue_raven on May 01, 2007, 09:49:01 AM
i have to agree with delta slim about the od-3. it is very transparent, although when it comes to picking response, it doesn't compare much to a boss sd-1.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poundcake on May 01, 2007, 09:54:20 AM
Aside from Bad Monkey, what's a good stand alone stock overdrive that has big bottom sound and sustain? I heard that SD-1 can take away your Bass tone... Blues Driver they say has annoying chicken picking sound? How about OD3? Kinda steep for the price compared with other Boss pedals... worth it?

Thanks!

Mukhang most of the suggestions turned into what people prefer as their own ODs. :-)

If your strict about your requirements re big bottom and sustain,  baka OD3 at BM ang best bet mo sa local mass-produced pedals.  OD3 has the best, big bottom altho it does not have as smooth and round tone vs. other ODs; neither does it clip like a TS (it's very transparent, like a cranked amp talaga, warts and all).  The BM has bass and treble controls so you can add bass to taste and attenuate the highs for a rounder tone.  It clips and compresses like a TS so it sustains nicely.  But I don't like the click and lack of dynamic control via the gtr vol.



+1 to blues master 'slim :) the OD-3 is a killer clean boost pedal. i've been using a stock OD-3 to boost my ReezaFRATzitz and the Reeza's tone isn't altered by the OD-3 at all. very transparent talaga. my settings are: volume=11:30, gain=zero, tone=11:30. i placed it after the Reeza in my pedal chain :)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: nathanmanansala on May 01, 2007, 10:11:16 AM
me likes the bd2 and od3 types. dont like the sd1 and ts types. pero i like the mosfet fd2. i'm weird.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: leech on May 01, 2007, 11:01:08 AM
ako SD-2 and OD-3. the SD-2 has a very wide range of OD's eh, from almost transparent OD to medium crunch. At certain settings...it can even "almost" emulate the valveboy and BK Butler Tube Driver . But of course, the valveboy and TD has more range/head room in all aspects. The OD-3 naman is also a versatile OD but not like the SD-2. Very transparent also and can do some "hair line" OD's. (think SRV's crystal like tone) parang clean na may konting OD na hindi maintindihan. :lol: And its very good for clean boost too!! Heard and saw it in action in markflo's gig!! Very nice!! :-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: deltaslim on May 01, 2007, 11:08:35 AM
OT: delta.... what did you mean by "click"?

At highly compressed settings there seems to be an un-natural "thwack" at the point of attack as you would hear from a real compressor. But this is based on a short test a long time ago at the store with other pedals in the chain (but off) and plugged into a small Peavey amp using a guitar i don't even remember now...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: pallas on May 02, 2007, 01:19:03 AM
the boss DN2 dyna drive looks promising 8-)

Listening to clips of the ZIM by foxrox now and its just SO VERSATILE. Hardrock chug to stones to evrything in between with the voicing knob...damn :oops:

http://http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: danleo on May 02, 2007, 07:30:19 AM
the boss DN2 dyna drive looks promising 8-)

Listening to clips of the ZIM by foxrox now and its just SO VERSATILE. Hardrock chug to stones to evrything in between with the voicing knob...damn :oops:

http://http://www.foxroxelectronics.com/

Yah! Mukahang promising ang Boss DN2, if i'll have the budget and if its available I'll probably get one. :)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: wormnanor on May 12, 2007, 02:32:12 PM
can i get any preamp lyk sound between the bd2 o BM, coz im choosing din eh...clean boost low gain like rolling stone...correct me if im wrong  hehehehehehe...newbie here tnx mga sirs...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on May 12, 2007, 02:34:47 PM
can i get any preamp lyk sound between the bd2 o BM, coz im choosing din eh...clean boost low gain like rolling stone...correct me if im wrong  hehehehehehe...newbie here tnx mga sirs...
chief what do you mean by pre-amp sound?yung tipong altered na yung signal to emulate something else?
anyway you can't go wrong with the BD-2 kung gusto mo ng low gain crunch hehe. :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: vaisteen2003 on May 12, 2007, 03:40:12 PM
going back to the topic. The VOX tube equiped pedals are good stand alone pedals. sorry kung nasagot ko na to. tinatamad ako mag browse sa pages eh.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: pallas on May 12, 2007, 04:34:03 PM
going back to the topic. The VOX tube equiped pedals are good stand alone pedals. sorry kung nasagot ko na to. tinatamad ako mag browse sa pages eh.
the cooltron i tried, mas oks pa badmonkey.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: wutuwutu on May 13, 2007, 02:44:50 PM
can i get any preamp lyk sound between the bd2 o BM, coz im choosing din eh...clean boost low gain like rolling stone...correct me if im wrong  hehehehehehe...newbie here tnx mga sirs...

as far as i know, taga davao ka sir diba?.. :) wer selling our bd2 if ur interested.. :D tsaka unahan na lang tau kuha sa bm sa music factory.hehehe  :-P

try mo sd1 + od3.. medjo contented with my set up ryt now(pero still gassing for a green monkey).. pg makuha ko na bm, tatlo na silang mga babies ko(sd1, od3, tsaka unggoy)...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: James_Animagi on May 13, 2007, 02:50:32 PM
the best ata ung TS-7 na ibanez tube screamer or ung DS-100 boston distortion..kung Overdrive naman ok ung MXR wylde overdrive..syempre depende pa rin sa style ng tugtugan un dun sila makakaiba iba...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on May 14, 2007, 07:06:51 PM
thanks for the suggestions... di ko nakuha ang OD3  :cry: still eyeing the DOD Integrated Tube Overdrive FX 100 though...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: juzaen on September 09, 2007, 04:04:22 PM
 :? how about the OD-20 by boss.. is there any reviews mga sir? thanks
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: xelalien on September 10, 2007, 02:57:19 AM
hmmmm, ask ko lang din,
how about a Boss PW2 Power Driver? me nagsabi kasi, ito yung pinaka-matapang na OD pedal ng boss...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: cacophony on September 10, 2007, 08:49:38 AM
Marshall Guv'nor! hehehehe! :-D pero ayaw ok ng bumili ng any OD/ Disto... i'm confused with the variety of those... halos lahat pare-parehas lang naman... gusto ko yung nasa Valveking 212 na mismo.. add na lang ako ng equalizer.. just like what PG and had utilized way back his guitar experience... :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fastfret on September 10, 2007, 01:09:18 PM
Ibanez ts808, try also d arion tube mania :wink:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: juan sinko on September 10, 2007, 01:17:12 PM
SD1 Rules pa rin!!!!! SD1 Forever!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: nealyu on September 10, 2007, 11:21:27 PM
kung naka tube amp ka ts9dx is the bomb hehehhe
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on September 11, 2007, 05:37:37 AM
Xotic BB Preamp and BOSS SD2! :evil:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Allan_Reamillo on September 11, 2007, 06:34:11 AM
Boss SD-2 + TS-7 to add saturation. :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: bluenote on September 11, 2007, 08:31:27 AM
Kalikot Audio Fulltone Fulldrive clone!!!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: calvs on September 11, 2007, 09:26:17 AM
SD2 if you can get your hands on one  :wink:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: oist on September 16, 2007, 12:21:33 PM
Boston OD100. Overdrive architecture, but with the gain of a distortion. Even when stock.

i agree.

just got one.. hehe :-D

gave weight to my minori's twang.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: abyssinianson on September 16, 2007, 12:52:36 PM
Xotic BB Preamp and BOSS SD2! :evil:

vote ako sa BB preamp din. i
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dullFingers on September 16, 2007, 08:37:09 PM
Bad trip lang sa GDI21...ayaw nya ng me kasama syang ibang pedal at naka-off sya. Grabe tonesucker ! If you're gonna use this one, use a Bypass looper with it. Or have it converted to true bypass :D

pwede ma-convert gdI21 into true bypass? :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on September 16, 2007, 08:45:03 PM
pwede ma-convert gdI21 into true bypass? :-D
Pwede yan! Kailangan lang palitan ng switch.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: markv on September 17, 2007, 04:11:07 PM
i vote for BD-2 bluesdriver or TS7 modded to 808!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poundcake on September 17, 2007, 04:20:24 PM
I just had my OD-3 modded by jackbauer. It sounds a lot more awesome now :)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: incisor on September 17, 2007, 07:11:51 PM
I just had my OD-3 modded by jackbauer. It sounds a lot more awesome now :)

soundclips naman ser, gusto ko sana ipamod rin e, nu tunog niya pag naka 3 o clock yung gain or full? pwede ba siya pang metal na? natry ko stock OD3 sa tugtugan namin which is mabigat ok siya e pero baka sa amp lang yun, pero gusto ko yung tone niya lutang na lutang sa mix kesa sa MT2
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: trees on September 17, 2007, 09:38:42 PM
para sa akin masyadong ma-treble yung BD2. . ..

i'm gassing for OCD FUlltone or Creamtone  :-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: cumbersome on September 17, 2007, 10:08:58 PM
I just had my OD-3 modded by jackbauer. It sounds a lot more awesome now :)

OD3 it is for me. You can go from creamy, slightly throaty boost to near-distortion territory with this pedal. At slightly over 5k, it is hard to beat. :)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: ritch_079 on September 17, 2007, 10:21:16 PM
i just tested a screaming blues ng digitech... panalo!! haha.. swabe, and pwde pa magkaron ng xtra punch by raising the low knob.. hehe

nagkaron ng time na BM ung primary drive pedal ko.. ok cya, lalo na sa fender na amp.. ung performer 65.. meron cyang crunch and parang xtra gain.. sa marshall avt, mdyo kulang ung BM para sakin..

sd-2 is ok rin! pero counted pa ba? hehe.. 2 pedals in one na un e.. haha
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: markflo on September 18, 2007, 03:26:47 AM
Most overdrive pedals are built to stand alone i think. It's just a matter of how much gain you want and what kind of tonality you want. The reason why i say this is coz at least at one point in time, i've tried or owned the more common od models out there. Od3, ts808, od808, sd2, bad monkey to name a few and all of then sounded great at what they're supposed to do. Want transparent? Go od3. Want mid hump? Go for an 808 type. Want more gain? Buy a distortion pedal or a second od of the same kind to boost it. Wanna be broke? Get a zendrive... Hehe...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: paquitz on September 18, 2007, 03:37:55 AM
Most overdrive pedals are built to stand alone i think. It's just a matter of how much gain you want and what kind of tonality you want. The reason why i say this is coz at least at one point in time, i've tried or owned the more common od models out there. Od3, ts808, od808, sd2, bad monkey to name a few and all of then sounded great at what they're supposed to do. Want transparent? Go od3. Want mid hump? Go for an 808 type. Want more gain? Buy a distortion pedal or a second od of the same kind to boost it. Wanna be broke? Get a zendrive... Hehe...

+100  :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dewberry on September 18, 2007, 05:40:38 PM
Go for the OD3 men ok na yun
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: paengkee on September 18, 2007, 06:47:21 PM
http://www.amtelectronics.com/eng/filerec_files/fatal.html

gassing for this one... ayus for direct to mixer ala digitech but its analog!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poppy on September 18, 2007, 08:14:29 PM
I really like the boss overdrives. I consider the SD-1 and OD-2 the gold standard in overdrives. It helps that their sound appears on a lot of popular songs. This is also its downfall because they tend to sound a little too generic. This is where the SD-2 comes in, its original sound may have been the attraction for guitarists who prefer their tone sound a little more unique. Im just wondering why the classified have suddenly become awash with SD2s.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on September 18, 2007, 08:34:55 PM
I really like the boss overdrives. I consider the SD-1 and OD-2 the gold standard in overdrives. It helps that their sound appears on a lot of popular songs. This is also its downfall because they tend to sound a little too generic. This is where the SD-2 comes in, its original sound may have been the attraction for guitarists who prefer their tone sound a little more unique. Im just wondering why the classified have suddenly become awash with SD2s.
Dahil din sa baka nangangailangan ng pera o dahil din sa dami na nag papa-order ng bowteek pedals. :evil:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: markflo on September 18, 2007, 10:11:36 PM
If it weren't for the internet, we wouldn't be in this boutique revolution. Hehe
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on September 18, 2007, 10:15:04 PM
If it weren't for the internet, we wouldn't be in this boutique revolution. Hehe
Mismo! Stop na sana ako sa SD2,until i saw the xotic site. :evil:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Poundcake on September 18, 2007, 10:56:30 PM
Most overdrive pedals are built to stand alone i think. It's just a matter of how much gain you want and what kind of tonality you want. The reason why i say this is coz at least at one point in time, i've tried or owned the more common od models out there. Od3, ts808, od808, sd2, bad monkey to name a few and all of then sounded great at what they're supposed to do. Want transparent? Go od3. Want mid hump? Go for an 808 type. Want more gain? Buy a distortion pedal or a second od of the same kind to boost it. Wanna be broke? Get a zendrive... Hehe...

But you want to be broke! It's time to GAS up!!! :evil: :evil:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on September 19, 2007, 04:13:10 AM
OS-2 solve na ako :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: van13 on September 19, 2007, 04:19:33 AM
which od has a lesser grit?
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: Chito on September 19, 2007, 04:31:14 AM
Lets start all over again. Bad Monkey. and if you want more gain, cascade 2 of them. :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: tackielarla on September 19, 2007, 04:51:09 AM
OD-9 is super nice and i-smooth. Can get heavy sounds by using it as a boost sa amp gain channel mo. :-D
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: itchybrain on September 19, 2007, 06:09:00 PM

Thanks bro. Yan nga sinasabi ko eh... kaya kung nanakaw eh MIC lang, il make sure na MIJ/ MIK ang susunod kong guitar. And I will add more to my pedals... maybe a total of 10! 6 kasi yung nawala eh...  :-D

Hey ECUA... thanks sa link. Reserved na sa akin. OD3 down... next OD please. Hhehe..

ang mahal ng mistakes ko. nakakatatlo na 'kong distortion pedals (puro boss) and i'm still searching. buti na lang maraming mabait dito. Galing ng thread. dami ko nang natutunan.  :-)

OT LANG: speaking of searching... para dun sa mga nawawalan ng gamit (especially guitars and effects), ok lang kaya na magpost tayo ng bagong TOPIC na may listahan ng gear and serial number/s plus pangalan ng owner para maiwasan ang theft? para bago tayo bumili tingnan natin itong thread na ito. ang mamahal ng gamit at ang hirap magipon ng pambili tapos nanakawin lang.   :x

just an idea...watchutink? :-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: knightburn on September 19, 2007, 10:08:49 PM
I had to dispose my OD3 due to money concerns but luckily I was able to grab a very good condition Dual Overdrive SD-2  :lol:

OD3 and SD2 is a very good pedal from Roland
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: haey2 on September 19, 2007, 10:42:57 PM
another SD2 user na si marvs,hehehe...there's also another OVERDRIVE pedal waiting for you here bro...its just a text away...hehehe 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dvd9 on September 20, 2007, 01:07:14 PM
here is my recommendation

Os-2
 :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: pallas on September 20, 2007, 01:15:43 PM
ZVEX box of rock, anything cascaded into it would sound huge.
Get the vexter version. Its just as awesome.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: ice.lacsina on September 20, 2007, 03:04:57 PM
i agree with sir Chito. Go for a BadMonkey. Versatile and has a bit of Cab emulation for direct line out. If you want more gain cascade another! hehe

Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: xelalien on March 22, 2008, 04:04:39 PM
question lang po:

anu ba magandang stand-alone OD pedal (stock or locally modified) na bagay sa new school punk rock?
tipong green day/blink 182/sum 41? (yung hindi harsh sounding)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: dewberry on March 22, 2008, 05:03:50 PM
I say I go for Boss OD3 plus yung guitar pick-up mo sa bridge yung mga high output type na humbucker para ayos!.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: khuxielog on March 22, 2008, 05:08:20 PM
Fulltone Fulldrive II

 :evil:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on March 22, 2008, 05:13:24 PM
Para saakin,yung ZDC ko. Hindi sa binubuhat ko yung sarili kong bangko,pero swak na swak siya sa pangangailangan ng playing style ko. IMHO,it suits almost all styles of playing.  :wink:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: paul_sigua on March 22, 2008, 05:14:34 PM
Fulltone OCD
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: mawts_gwaps on March 22, 2008, 05:44:59 PM
sansamp series
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: markv on March 22, 2008, 06:44:19 PM
Quote
Good stand alone overdrive?
Good Question!

sa dinami-dami ng mga na-try ko, ito palang ang "Good Stand Alone OD" (no bass loss when engaged & no annoying honky midrange)

-mi audio blues pro
-bad monkey (i hated the ts9 as a standalone & to me this sounds better)
-ts7 modded to 808 specs
-keeley bd-2 phat mod
-od-3 (one of the best)

;)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: xelalien on March 22, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
I say I go for Boss OD3 plus yung guitar pick-up mo sa bridge yung mga high output type na humbucker para ayos!.

tamang-tama, soon-to-be-SD-Invader-equipped pa naman ako. :D yung current setup ko kasi 2 dirt pedals na cascaded (para makuha ko closely yung 'new school punk rock' na sound)... gusto ko sana isang pedal na lang to do the job.

thanks sa suggestion. :)
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: changedmynametojimi on March 24, 2008, 09:53:57 AM
ZDC by kramtone
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: boogsy on March 24, 2008, 05:05:31 PM
Boss OD-3 has a nice bottom end. May cases ng SD-1 daw na nagleleak and it sucks out some tone. If youre going for an SD-1 have it modded i guess.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: markv on March 24, 2008, 06:22:02 PM
I personally prefer the od-3 as a main overdrive... not as a booster. Try boosting it with an sd-1  :-) Ayos, panalo!
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: rakistangel on March 24, 2008, 10:26:15 PM
TS9 daw :?
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: tackielarla on March 24, 2008, 10:36:54 PM
Meng, Barber Direct Drive. Supah creamy drive; really responsive sa picking dynamics; and did I mention na creamy sha? :lol:
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: noobie on March 25, 2008, 01:27:19 AM
Bad Monkey is the best choice for me...  If you are a fan of cascading 2 dirt drive pedals... you can try cascading a Badmonkey with BD-2... I tried it once and,  to me, it sounded great.  You can also try cascading it with Digitech screamin blues. 
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on March 25, 2008, 02:59:27 AM
Bad Monkey is the best choice for me...  If you are a fan of cascading 2 dirt drive pedals... you can try cascading a Badmonkey with BD-2... I tried it once and,  to me, it sounded great.  You can also try cascading it with Digitech screamin blues. 
You're talking about cascading TWO ODs,but the thread topic is "Good stand alone overdrive". Stand alone,meaning,mag-isa diba?  :|
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: fretburner on March 25, 2008, 03:16:14 AM
Marshall Guvnor (orig)
Marshall DriveMaster
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: lovecore on March 25, 2008, 05:37:56 AM
You're talking about cascading TWO ODs,but the thread topic is "Good stand alone overdrive". Stand alone,meaning,mag-isa diba?  :|

nabanggit lang nung threadstarter kse na hilig daw nya magcascade ng 2 OD kaya nasuggest ni noobie.

My vote goes to Barber Direct Drive... mismo...
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: gainsucker on March 25, 2008, 06:04:06 AM
nabanggit lang nung threadstarter kse na hilig daw nya magcascade ng 2 OD kaya nasuggest ni noobie.

My vote goes to Barber Direct Drive... mismo...

+1
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: kawayan_strat on March 25, 2008, 08:02:45 AM
nabanggit lang nung threadstarter kse na hilig daw nya magcascade ng 2 OD kaya nasuggest ni noobie.

My vote goes to Barber Direct Drive... mismo...
Ah,ok.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: vaisteen2003 on March 25, 2008, 10:33:41 AM
+1

eh ikaw na naka LP na goldtop kahit anong OD talga maganda.
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: sweeplikevai on March 25, 2008, 10:58:35 AM
bsiab2
Title: Re: Good stand alone overdrive?
Post by: noobie on March 25, 2008, 09:30:07 PM
nabanggit lang nung threadstarter kse na hilig daw nya magcascade ng 2 OD kaya nasuggest ni noobie.

My vote goes to Barber Direct Drive... mismo...

Salamat po s pagpapaliwanag on my behalf.  :-)  By the way, I almost forgot... JH-1 is also a great stand alone dirt pedal.  :-D