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Offline fingertapper1

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« on: March 16, 2006, 07:47:27 PM »
mga sir how do i achieve a certain tone? right now kasi im using an morley bad horsie wah -> mt-2 -> ch-1 in gigs... it sounds great pero medyo nagsawa na ko eh. it sounds too metal na eh. mga tipong pang pantera at power metal. the problem i have is with  my mt-2 wala na masyadong tones na magawa. may ge-7 ako pero sobrang ingay. nung may ns-2 naman ako di ko trip yung tunog, nasusuckout yung tone eh.

anyway, what do you think? should i get a new od/dist pedal(ts9?) or a pickup. my band plays anything from metal to rock to alt. and my other band plays classic rock. gusto ko sana yung tone ni michael schenker. ang linaw nung notes eh at parang ang fat nung tone pag nagsosolo. ok din yung sound  na parang razorback and gnr.

o nga pala i use an rg 320dxqm and rg770... also have a newly acquired ax1500g but im not impressed with it's sound.

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2006, 09:11:39 PM »
better give that korg another chance... kung wala ka talagang makuhang sound na gusto mo, explore more pedals...
yung bands/artist na mention mo, i think they dont usually put too much distortion or gain(schenker, razorback, gnr) kaya malinaw ang sound nila..try it with your MT2, ibaba mo yung gain/distortion settings..or better yet, experiment ka ng OD pedals...

in the end, its really up to you pa rin how you want to sound like.

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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2006, 09:56:26 PM »
sige sir hehe ill try to fiddle with it. and yes i know na halos guitar -> guitar tube amp lang ata setup nila schenker,razorbback at gnr e... iba talaga tube amp.sige ill try a ts9.

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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2006, 11:27:32 PM »
Dalhin mo sa kin, lets do the asymmetric clip mod on your MT2 :D. Sure did work magic on Tubescreamers and DS-1's :D . Sound will be more "open" and "warm".  Such a simple mod could do so much wonders :D.

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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2006, 11:42:50 PM »
sir bamf, mga how much would it cost kaya?


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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2006, 11:55:11 PM »
If you come to Purple Haze on the 25th, my promo service fee is only P300 per pedal. Distortions lang ha, and only the asymmetric clip mod :D.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2006, 01:46:39 AM »
try mo yung "fat dist" ng korg ax1500 mo...ganda yun...
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2006, 02:44:29 AM »
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If you come to Purple Haze on the 25th, my promo service fee is only P300 per pedal. Distortions lang ha, and only the asymmetric clip mod :D.


Hindi ba pwedeng kiss na lang :mrgreen:

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2006, 04:44:07 AM »
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If you come to Purple Haze on the 25th, my promo service fee is only P300 per pedal. Distortions lang ha, and only the asymmetric clip mod :D.


Hindi ba pwedeng kiss na lang :mrgreen:


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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2006, 04:49:45 AM »
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If you come to Purple Haze on the 25th, my promo service fee is only P300 per pedal. Distortions lang ha, and only the asymmetric clip mod :D.


Hindi ba pwedeng kiss na lang :mrgreen:


Saan ? Ayyy fafa ! Brokeback na !




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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2006, 05:20:05 AM »
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Quote from: BAMF
If you come to Purple Haze on the 25th, my promo service fee is only P300 per pedal. Distortions lang ha, and only the asymmetric clip mod :D.


Hindi ba pwedeng kiss na lang :mrgreen:


Saan ? Ayyy fafa ! Brokeback na !


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2006, 07:12:54 AM »
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mga sir how do i achieve a certain tone?


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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2006, 07:15:18 AM »
depende talaga sa kung ano gusto mong bagong tone mo eh. then you got a whole variety of pedals to choose from to create that tone in your head. kaya ang dami ditong mga tao diba ang dadaming stomp box tapos puro distortion/overdrive? kasi miski pareparehas silang OD/dist, iba iba ang tonal characteristics nila...
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2006, 08:21:42 AM »
sir bamf: sige po sir. ill try to go. pm ko kayo next week kung makapunta ko.

sir markflo: sige sir i'll try to use the fat dist... although i can't see it lol. nabura na ata. 2nd hand lang kasi to eh. marami nang naka program yung  dating user.

thanks sa mga comments. i'll try getting an od pedal sd-1 siguro or ts9... or ano ba ang maganda na di naman mabubutas bulsa ko?

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2006, 08:35:17 AM »
chong baka naman mataas yung level nung EQ? check mo rin baka kasi di balance yung lakas nung mga pedals mo...hahaha oo nga give your AX1500 a chance...kailangan mo lang talagang tutukan ang pag-explore ng mga ganyang pedal kasi digital nga...dami ng kailangang kapain bago mo mapalabas yung tunay niyang tunog...

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2006, 09:37:45 AM »
hmmmm from your avatar its obvious your a PG fan...... hanap mo ba yung same character ng dist nya? MT2 kasi (IMHO)  maganda sa chords pero nakukulangan ako when it comes to lead parts.  

 I suggest you get a TS7! mura pa and it's not that far from a ts9! May hot switch sya na mabigat na overdrive! gandA ng individual notes! picking angles mo sa fast runs dinig na dinig! tapos ipa mod mo kay BAMF na assymetrical clipping lalo pang gaganda!

hope this helps :D

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2006, 10:33:25 AM »
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sir markflo: sige sir i'll try to use the fat dist... although i can't see it lol. nabura na ata. 2nd hand lang kasi to eh. marami nang naka program yung  dating user.


    Dalawa ang presets ng korg 1500. Isang factory at isang user presets.
    Most likely nasa user preset ka and the previous owner renamed the fat dist with a new name probably my binago cya sa settings ng fat dist.
    Try to look for it sa factory presets doon walang na overwrite na settings for safekeeping. Better yet u can initialize all para malinis ang mga patches mo.

    P.S.  Have u tried using d korg 1500 with two small amps instead of 1 big amp? Kc ung korg 1500 pang stereo setup lang talaga. kaya d maganda pag naka mono ka. Ganyan din ako dati dissapointed sa 1500 until someone told me the stereo effect.

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2006, 10:41:54 AM »
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If you come to Purple Haze on the 25th, my promo service fee is only P300 per pedal. Distortions lang ha, and only the asymmetric clip mod :D.


Hindi ba pwedeng kiss na lang :mrgreen:


Saan ? Ayyy fafa ! Brokeback na !


patay tayo dyan haha mukhang mahirap na yan sa EB ah :) kidding!
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« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2006, 01:03:19 PM »
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hmmmm from your avatar its obvious your a PG fan...... hanap mo ba yung same character ng dist nya? MT2 kasi (IMHO)  maganda sa chords pero nakukulangan ako when it comes to lead parts.  

 I suggest you get a TS7! mura pa and it's not that far from a ts9! May hot switch sya na mabigat na overdrive! gandA ng individual notes! picking angles mo sa fast runs dinig na dinig! tapos ipa mod mo kay BAMF na assymetrical clipping lalo pang gaganda!

hope this helps :D


Naku baka ma-asar ka sa bago kong na-discover. Madali lang pala i-mod ang TS7 para mag-tunog TS-808. Pareho ang sirkito nila, iba lang ang values ng ibang pyesa. Tapos asym mod...pamatay !
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« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2006, 02:21:43 PM »
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hmmmm from your avatar its obvious your a PG fan...... hanap mo ba yung same character ng dist nya? MT2 kasi (IMHO)  maganda sa chords pero nakukulangan ako when it comes to lead parts.  

 I suggest you get a TS7! mura pa and it's not that far from a ts9! May hot switch sya na mabigat na overdrive! gandA ng individual notes! picking angles mo sa fast runs dinig na dinig! tapos ipa mod mo kay BAMF na assymetrical clipping lalo pang gaganda!

hope this helps :D


Naku baka ma-asar ka sa bago kong na-discover. Madali lang pala i-mod ang TS7 para mag-tunog TS-808. Pareho ang sirkito nila, iba lang ang values ng ibang pyesa. Tapos asym mod...pamatay !


hehehe bibili na nga ako ng TS7 nampucha! :lol:

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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2006, 07:05:41 PM »
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sir markflo: sige sir i'll try to use the fat dist... although i can't see it lol. nabura na ata. 2nd hand lang kasi to eh. marami nang naka program yung  dating user.



Yung Fat Distortion.. isa yung sa mga Drive models..yung pinaka unang chicken knob ata sya if I remember correctly... di sya mawawala, we're not talking of presets yet.

nag upload ako ng all the korg patches you need, swerte at di ko pa nadedelete sa pc ko... here is the linky:
http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1YRQXRAWXFHZZ1HOK6Z48TWLC9

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« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2006, 04:51:07 AM »
wow thanks guys! really a lot of help! sige sir markflo ill fiddle around with the ax1500g. i'll also take note of the ts7. talaga ts808? so if ever magkakaroon ako ng $169 pedal for the price of $39? hehe magkano ba pa mod sayo bamf?

anyway guys. why don't you post your gear/setup and talk about your tone.

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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2006, 06:18:36 AM »
fingertapper,

Its hard to diagnose your problem.  It could be the guitar, or the pedals, or the pickups or the strings, etc.  But dont forget the amp which you dont have.  

Try out all the suggestions on this thread but I dont think one factor will solve your problem.  Before I tried a stock MT2, I had no problems with it even on low settings because I already had the right guitar and amp.  In short, baka ok lang current set up mo pero you dont have the right amp.  Before you try out any mods wherein you are required to spend, make sure may test unit you can match with your gear.  Once modded ang MT2 mo at hindi mo magustuhan at pumanget and tunog, wala na iyun.  Ang hirap na ibenta and you have nobody to blaim but yourself.

Mahirap kasi mga one size fits all solution lalo na kung hindi pa nakita ang buong set up mo.

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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2006, 06:41:52 AM »
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hmmmm from your avatar its obvious your a PG fan...... hanap mo ba yung same character ng dist nya? MT2 kasi (IMHO)  maganda sa chords pero nakukulangan ako when it comes to lead parts.  

 I suggest you get a TS7! mura pa and it's not that far from a ts9! May hot switch sya na mabigat na overdrive! gandA ng individual notes! picking angles mo sa fast runs dinig na dinig! tapos ipa mod mo kay BAMF na assymetrical clipping lalo pang gaganda!

hope this helps :D


Naku baka ma-asar ka sa bago kong na-discover. Madali lang pala i-mod ang TS7 para mag-tunog TS-808. Pareho ang sirkito nila, iba lang ang values ng ibang pyesa. Tapos asym mod...pamatay !


hehehe bibili na nga ako ng TS7 nampucha! :lol:


Magkano ba TS7 ngaun?

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2006, 07:45:26 AM »
Hey OASgomez,

watcha think about those Custom Audio Amps? Pretty sweet eh? Haven't tried one but based on Scott Henderson and Michael Landau recordings, they sound awesome...

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fingertapper,

Its hard to diagnose your problem.  It could be the guitar, or the pedals, or the pickups or the strings, etc.  But dont forget the amp which you dont have.  

Try out all the suggestions on this thread but I dont think one factor will solve your problem.  Before I tried a stock MT2, I had no problems with it even on low settings because I already had the right guitar and amp.  In short, baka ok lang current set up mo pero you dont have the right amp.  Before you try out any mods wherein you are required to spend, make sure may test unit you can match with your gear.  Once modded ang MT2 mo at hindi mo magustuhan at pumanget and tunog, wala na iyun.  Ang hirap na ibenta and you have nobody to blaim but yourself.

Mahirap kasi mga one size fits all solution lalo na kung hindi pa nakita ang buong set up mo.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. - Abraham Lincoln