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Offline Musikerochan

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i believed this crap when i was in elementary. na second hand smoke daw has 200%more nicotine. as i grew older shempre mejo nag-iisip na din talaga tayo. at yun nga, the 200% nicotine bluff i realized was more of a scare tactic for minors.

isnt this misinformation? i mean ano ba talagang percentage ng nicotine ang second hand smoke? anlabo. health buffs, med students, practitioners, please shed light on this.

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if you look at it simply, smokers intake the 200% nicotine, one is when they puff the smoke, the other half is when they breath the smoke they exhale.

on the other hand, 2nd hand smokers only suffer the latter.

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still paps, mejo duling yung logic dun, even mathematical computation to be exact. on a side not i used to kid myself na baka yung dagdag na 100% percent e ang katawan natin ang nagpoproduce which is outright impossible.

unless im Edward Hohenheim. oh well.

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syempre it's not exactly 100%...

kase yung smoke nanggaling sa madumi na lungs.. so nagiging worst yung chemicals na nasa second hand smoke


-Secondhand smoke, also known as environmental tobacco smoke, is a complex mixture of gases and particles that includes smoke from the burning cigarette, cigar, or pipe tip (sidestream smoke) and exhaled mainstream smoke.

-Secondhand smoke contains at least 250 chemicals known to be toxic, including more than 50 that can cause cancer.

http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/Factsheets/SecondhandSmoke.htm

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Hindi ba nababawasan ng filter ang nicotine?


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Hindi ba nababawasan ng filter ang nicotine?

Nababawasan din, kasi tignan mo yung filter, pagkatapos mo magyosi, kulay dilaw na... :-)
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baka dahil sa air pollution at pagkakahalo ng mga smokes sa ating baga!
so we can use Lungcare! hehe
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Offline marzi

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exaggeration lang ng mga anti smoking orgs yan para matakot kayo...

its still:

50% - goes to the smoker because the smoke he/she puffs in is filtered.
100% - to the person in front of the smoker because IT IS UNFILTERED.

theyre saying its 100% for the smoker kasi yun ang nagyoyosi. while the second hand smoker who inhales the smoke gets 200% kasi walang filter sa ilong nya.
« Last Edit: September 11, 2008, 02:31:12 PM by marzi »
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hehe, hala. naglabo-labo na. sari-sari na talaga ang ginagawa para takutin tayo ah. di pa naman halloween.

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mas ok siguro and second hand smoke kung MJ ang ini-smoke ng kasama mo! wahahaah! :lol:

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 10:28:42 AM »
mamatay na lahat ng mga naninigarilyo sa escalator at walkways namen.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 10:44:30 AM »
ahmmmmm, ahmmmmm, ahmmmmmmm

*me chanting a spell*

ahmmmmm, ahmmmm, ahmmmm,..


bwiset, kahit anong pigil ang gawin ko naglalaway pa rin akong magyosi. kaadik talaga.

sana kung may "healthy" yosi no?

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 11:57:09 AM »
ahmmmmm, ahmmmmm, ahmmmmmmm

*me chanting a spell*

ahmmmmm, ahmmmm, ahmmmm,..


bwiset, kahit anong pigil ang gawin ko naglalaway pa rin akong magyosi. kaadik talaga.

sana kung may "healthy" yosi no?

d po ba may smoke na gawa sa vegetable? sa kabilang thread ko po yata nakita.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2008, 01:48:04 PM »
haha, gusto ko sana yung ginger yosi, pampaganda ng boses.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 03:12:09 PM »
grabe pala ang 2nd hand smoke... :-(

if i remember correctly, diba pinagbawal na sa makati ang mga nagyoyosi sa mga main roads (i.e. ayala and buendia)?  andami kasing nagyoyosi eh...kawawa naman kaming mga naglalakad, nabubugahan lagi.  :-(
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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2008, 01:53:47 PM »
grabe pala ang 2nd hand smoke... :-(

if i remember correctly, diba pinagbawal na sa makati ang mga nagyoyosi sa mga main roads (i.e. ayala and buendia)?  andami kasing nagyoyosi eh...kawawa naman kaming mga naglalakad, nabubugahan lagi.  :-(

pinagbabawal?no bro, ilang years na ako nagwowork ayala, palipat lipat lang ng building, pero ni minsan hindi ipinagbawal ang paninigarilyo sa mga walkways/pathways/gather (whatever you call it) sa ayala.  kung ipagbabawal yan baka maubos mga naglalakad sa ayala.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2008, 01:36:12 PM »
pinagbabawal?no bro, ilang years na ako nagwowork ayala, palipat lipat lang ng building, pero ni minsan hindi ipinagbawal ang paninigarilyo sa mga walkways/pathways/gather (whatever you call it) sa ayala.  kung ipagbabawal yan baka maubos mga naglalakad sa ayala.

ah talaga?  parang may nagsabi kasi sa akin na bawal eh...kaya yung mga nagyoyosi, sa mga sidestreets na lang sila.   :-)
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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2008, 01:44:03 PM »
since we are aware that smoking is indeed dangerous to our health, bakit di na lang ipatigil ang pagma-manufacture ng yosi? anu ba implications?

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2008, 01:47:29 PM »
since we are aware that smoking is indeed dangerous to our health, bakit di na lang ipatigil ang pagma-manufacture ng yosi? anu ba implications?

para kasing rage against the machine ang dating nyan...isang malaking industriya na kontrolado ng malalaking tao ang binabangga mo pag nag suggest ka nyan sa gobyerno...kung matuloy man yan dito sa pinas, eh meron pang ibang bansa na operational ang factories kaya parang wala din...pero if your plan is worldwide, hmmmm, yayaman ka pre...
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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2008, 02:29:56 PM »
hehe, ayun yun eh...

para palang langis, though naimbento na ang kotseng de-tubig eh hindi pinayagan. obviously malulugi gobreyno natin. hindi pedeng itigil. like yosi. and alak.

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2008, 04:05:09 AM »
Mga Bro, para masagot lang tong tanong na to in a mathematical perspective, I think ganito yan.

Alam naman siguro natin na merong mga chemical sa kahit anong usok, galing sa yosi or sa basura or sa sasakyan or sa grill, basta usok. Wala akong major sa chemistry and actually this is my waterloo in college but to make the discussion a lot simpler, sabihin natin na 100 milligrams ng nicotine (or whatever chemical) ang nakukuha ng smoker. I'm not sure kung maliit ang 100 milligrams sa actual quantitative analysis pero let's just say na maliit to kasi merong filter ang mga yosi.

For the second hand smokers naman (eto opinyon lang ha), since walang filter at direktang nalalanghap ang usok, malamang sa hindi mas mataas sa 100 milligrams ang quantity ng nicotine. Again, to make the discussion simpler, sabihin natin na ang mas madaming quantity ay katumbas ng 200 milligrams.

Therefore, lalabas nga na 200% na mas madami ang nicotine na napupunta sa mga second hand smokers kasi double to ng natatanggap ng mga smokers.

X = (200 milligrams / 100 milligrams) X 100%
   = 2 X 100%
X = 200%

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2008, 05:52:57 AM »
un isa p 100% galing sa hininga nun nauna nag smoke.
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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2008, 08:39:01 AM »
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Secondhand smoke contains twice as much tar and nicotine per unit volume as does smoke inhaled from a cigarette. It contains 3X as much cancer-causing benzpyrene, 5X as much carbon monoxide, and 50X as much ammonia. Secondhand smoke from pipes and cigars is equally as harmful, if not more so (Mayo Clinic release, Aug 97).

ayan o kaya 200%

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2008, 10:28:59 AM »
hmmm, matigas ang ulo ko kaya eto. :D

kung magpapasok ka ng 1 gram ng lahat ng chemical present sa yosi pag niyosi mo (given na clear pa baga mo), pano magiging doble ang quantity nun? i understand na bodily reaction can cause chemical transformation, pero hindi kaya masyadong exaggerated yung ad na yun about smoking and second hand smoke?

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Re: 2nd hand smoke is 200% nicotine.. what the? san galing yung 100% na dagdag?
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2008, 03:21:07 PM »
Quote from: www.medicinenet.com
Second-hand smoke: Environmental tobacco smoke that is inhaled involuntarily or passively by someone who is not smoking.

Environmental tobacco smoke is generated from the sidestream (the burning end) of a cigarette, pipe or cigar or from the exhaled mainstream (the smoke puffed out by smokers) of cigarettes, pipes, and cigars.

it makes sense diba? the second hand smoke does not pass through a filter.