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Title: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 12, 2015, 11:14:22 AM
Hi!

Any suggestions for a one cymbal setup, aside from the hats of course?

Planning to get new hats and crash that is rideable or ride that is crashable. I'm still on my planet z's, which I got as part of the pearl target package in jb atc a few years back. Current additions are Tama hi hat stands, speed cobra double pedals, and Joey jordison snare, if that helps as to my preferences.

Thanks!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on July 12, 2015, 02:31:35 PM
current favorite: 19 k custom hybrid trash smash
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 12, 2015, 05:36:07 PM
current favorite: 19 k custom hybrid trash smash

Cool! Thanks sir peeves! Any suggestions for hats?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: cs_mapper on July 12, 2015, 06:40:26 PM
Zildjian new beats 14" hi-hat super versatile tlga in my experience.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 12, 2015, 07:05:32 PM
Zildjian new beats 14" hi-hat super versatile tlga in my experience.

Thanks for the tip sir! Will check em out!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on July 13, 2015, 07:31:37 PM
current favorite: 19 k custom hybrid trash smash

yes! dapat kumuha nako dati,will get after i get a ride,hehe
oriental crash of doom for me
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: makinao on July 13, 2015, 08:30:34 PM
Sweet Ride.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: jckazs on July 13, 2015, 08:43:30 PM
18 / 19" na crash or crash ride would work well. Kung normal ride lang baka hindi crashable unless med/thin o lighter. Ok din 20" K custom dark. Very versatile, and crashable kahit 20". Kung kaya ng budget kahit anong k hats, 14" versatile. Ok din Istanbul mehmet sultan or traditional series kung mababa budget.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 15, 2015, 02:29:35 AM
Sweet Ride.

Crashable po ba to sir?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 15, 2015, 02:36:48 AM
18 / 19" na crash or crash ride would work well. Kung normal ride lang baka hindi crashable unless med/thin o lighter. Ok din 20" K custom dark. Very versatile, and crashable kahit 20". Kung kaya ng budget kahit anong k hats, 14" versatile. Ok din Istanbul mehmet sultan or traditional series kung mababa budget.

Cool! Thanks! Only heard positive reviews bout the K customs. Re the Istanbul, I read that the hand hammered stuff must be handpicked cause of inconsistencies, unlike the cast ones na consistent Yun tunog? Tama po ba?

Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: gss on July 15, 2015, 08:57:26 AM
Cool! Thanks! Only heard positive reviews bout the K customs. Re the Istanbul, I read that the hand hammered stuff must be handpicked cause of inconsistencies, unlike the cast ones na consistent Yun tunog? Tama po ba?

Yes, every cymbal will sound different becuase it is hand-hammered, not just Istanbul but other brands with hand hammered models, sa zildjian mostly mga vintage. But i read somewhere na yung bagong Kerope line ay hybrid, pre-machine hammered tapos tatapusin ng hand hammering. So you need to choose, however, di naman sila inconsistent.  But they're all machine cast and kung may lathing machined din yun.

And yes crashable ang sweet ride. Cool setup if ever, share naman kung ano mangyari...

Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 15, 2015, 10:22:06 AM
Yes, every cymbal will sound different becuase it is hand-hammered, not just Istanbul but other brands with hand hammered models, sa zildjian mostly mga vintage. But i read somewhere na yung bagong Kerope line ay hybrid, pre-machine hammered tapos tatapusin ng hand hammering. So you need to choose, however, di naman sila inconsistent.  But they're all machine cast and kung may lathing machined din yun.

And yes crashable ang sweet ride. Cool setup if ever, share naman kung ano mangyari...

Thanks sir! Will check out the sweet ride at jb atc if they have.

Took out one Tom by the way. So I got a bare setup muna.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: uy12umainer on July 16, 2015, 03:16:27 PM
stagg sh medium crash size 18 :3 yun gamit ko mapaset or gig di ka bibitinin sa sustain 
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: sonicassault on July 16, 2015, 03:56:27 PM
I really love my Istanbul Mehmet Sultan Ride, 20". Very nice stick sound, controlled wash, nice crash sound, and a killer bell. If I only had one non-hi hat cymbal to play, it's gonna be that ride. It can play hard rock to jazz and that's why I'm very happy with it. If you like it less earthy, the Traditional series version would work well. If it's a rideable crash, I'd probably go with an 18" Stagg DH crash, or maybe a Sabian AAX Omni (but I only ever heard recordings of it, but it sounds good to me).

For hats, Zildjian 13" K/Z if you can find one. alam ko out of production na to, so you have to hunt for it. but it's a very personal choice (Carter beauford fan here) so don't take my word for it. Other than that, I'd be good with Zildjian 14" A New Beats.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 23, 2016, 01:20:05 PM
Tagal na nung last post. Pero update ko lang. Hehehe...

Got paiste alpha medium hats! Tried out the alpha rock hats na brilliant, rude (which were loud! Masakit na sa tenga!), istanbul trad/ samatya/ radiant, avedis new beats/ rock hats. But i liked the alpha mediums the most. Its not so bright but i liked the stick definition. It meshes well with the jordison snare.

Ngayon hanap naman ng crash na puede ride, or vice versa. Considering the rude vs power crash.... Sweet ride & groove ride mga options din. Mukhang i prefer to ride a crash rather than crashing the ride.  Still lookin....

Yes, every cymbal will sound different becuase it is hand-hammered, not just Istanbul but other brands with hand hammered models, sa zildjian mostly mga vintage. But i read somewhere na yung bagong Kerope line ay hybrid, pre-machine hammered tapos tatapusin ng hand hammering. So you need to choose, however, di naman sila inconsistent.  But they're all machine cast and kung may lathing machined din yun.

And yes crashable ang sweet ride. Cool setup if ever, share naman kung ano mangyari...
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on April 25, 2016, 09:21:01 AM
Tagal na nung last post. Pero update ko lang. Hehehe...

Got paiste alpha medium hats! Tried out the alpha rock hats na brilliant, rude (which were loud! Masakit na sa tenga!), istanbul trad/ samatya/ radiant, avedis new beats/ rock hats. But i liked the alpha mediums the most. Its not so bright but i liked the stick definition. It meshes well with the jordison snare.

Ngayon hanap naman ng crash na puede ride, or vice versa. Considering the rude vs power crash.... Sweet ride & groove ride mga options din. Mukhang i prefer to ride a crash rather than crashing the ride.  Still lookin....

hehe
if you want na mag open up kagad ung cymbal e stay away from the rude series,hehe, trash smash,crash of doom(mejo nasty dark),or sweet ride. :-D
i use my 19 crash k custom hybrid as a ride as well.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on April 25, 2016, 09:36:54 AM
kerope! kahit anong size
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on April 25, 2016, 09:53:19 AM
kerope! kahit anong size

haha tama! pero kamusta naman presyo hahahh
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on April 25, 2016, 10:08:48 AM
price doesnt matter kasi isa lang talaga bibilin mo hahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 25, 2016, 05:16:01 PM
price doesnt matter kasi isa lang talaga bibilin mo hahaha


may katwiran. hahahahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 25, 2016, 05:33:47 PM

may katwiran. hahahahaha

Hahaha! Isa lang talaga!

But seriously, i'm considerin dreendroids power crash. Either that or the 2002 wild crash at audiophile. The wild crashlooks like it has a big bell. Might be good for crash riding? Youtub sucka for cymbals. Parang lahat maganda. And they end up sounding too similar. Di ko marinig yun nuances. Plus i still need to hit the cymbals.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 26, 2016, 10:05:27 AM
Hahaha! Isa lang talaga!

But seriously, i'm considerin dreendroids power crash. Either that or the 2002 wild crash at audiophile. The wild crashlooks like it has a big bell. Might be good for crash riding? Youtub sucka for cymbals. Parang lahat maganda. And they end up sounding too similar. Di ko marinig yun nuances. Plus i still need to hit the cymbals.

try a 19 K or look for the 20 Vault Crash I sold in the classifieds hahahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 26, 2016, 12:01:35 PM
try a 19 K or look for the 20 Vault Crash I sold in the classifieds hahahaha

thanks for the tips sir! pero wala pong pambili ng k. i would if i could. hahaha!

got my "one cymbal" kanina. i was pleasantly surprised by the "budget" meinl classics custom. b10 yata siya. got the 19" dark crash! it has a passsable crash ride tone for me, to my noob ears at least. major step up from my planet z crash ride.

found this youtube demo vid for it:


on the plus side, it looks great with my jordison snare!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 26, 2016, 12:44:05 PM
hehe
if you want na mag open up kagad ung cymbal e stay away from the rude series,hehe, trash smash,crash of doom(mejo nasty dark),or sweet ride. :-D
i use my 19 crash k custom hybrid as a ride as well.

Wanted a sweet ride before but thanks for the heads up. Next time 19 crash na k custom hybrid if funds allow. Got the19" meinl dark crash to tide me over til my ears can distinguish the diff. Ngayon kasi everythin sounds better tjan my planet z crash ride. Hahaha!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 26, 2016, 12:46:10 PM
Just realized wala pala ako sinunod sa mga suggestions ninyo. Pero at least i knew which ones to avoid! Iwas buyers remorse.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on April 26, 2016, 12:48:03 PM
kanya kanyang trip. kung di mo man magustuhan yung sound nyan in person, charge to experience na lang. marami rami rin naman ichacharge mo sa experience  :money:
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 26, 2016, 03:41:43 PM
kanya kanyang trip. kung di mo man magustuhan yung sound nyan in person, charge to experience na lang. marami rami rin naman ichacharge mo sa experience  :money:

Tama sir peeves! Magastos mag-experiment! Talagang charge to experience!

Pero masuerte ka pag kakaiba ang taste mo. Mura mabibili sa classifieds ang ayaw ng iba!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on April 26, 2016, 11:22:10 PM
Just realized wala pala ako sinunod sa mga suggestions ninyo. Pero at least i knew which ones to avoid! Iwas buyers remorse.


hahah! its ok bro. atleast you have some ideas. :-D
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 27, 2016, 02:06:18 PM
peechures!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_6920.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_6920.jpg.html)
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on April 27, 2016, 11:01:52 PM
peechures!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_6920.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_6920.jpg.html)

dont worry dadami pa cymbals mo hahaha :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 28, 2016, 08:42:11 AM
dont worry dadami pa cymbals mo hahaha :-D :-D :-D

Hahaha! Skins muna sir! Aquarian vs evans? Yikes! Walang tigil ang gulo sa aking pag-iisip!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 28, 2016, 09:50:05 AM
Hahaha! Skins muna sir! Aquarian vs evans? Yikes! Walang tigil ang gulo sa aking pag-iisip!

Aquarian will win over evans hands down. for me, its AQUARIAN => Remo > Evans

mas durable lang si remo, pero mas gusto ko tunog ng aquarian heads.


evans is just... meh.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 28, 2016, 09:54:29 AM
Aquarian will win over evans hands down. for me, its AQUARIAN => Remo > Evans

mas durable lang si remo, pero mas gusto ko tunog ng aquarian heads.


evans is just... meh.

Cool! Which aquarian model/ series for kick drum can you suggest for double peds? Thanks sir!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 28, 2016, 09:57:21 AM
Cool! Which aquarian model/ series for kick drum can you suggest for double peds? Thanks sir!


im pretty sure the others will agree when I say


SKII! HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on April 28, 2016, 10:13:39 PM
superkick 2! hahahah! :-D
yes aquarian and remo dude oks. pero mas ok kung madami cymbals hahahah
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 29, 2016, 08:38:27 AM
Superkick ii it is! Hahaha! Will check it out over at lyric festi. Sana hindi siya yun tig-3k na heads. Vaguely remember the series names i saw last time i checked.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: nikogulo on April 29, 2016, 03:36:04 PM
Hi X_Taxi

Im selling my modified K Dark Medium ride. Its sounds like a big dark crash, I think it will suit your taste.  :)

For one cymbal set-up, the K Session Crash, the one that Steve Gadd is a great all around cymbal, or a Paiste 2002 Medium. Althought the prices of those cymbals are pricey.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 30, 2016, 11:31:15 AM
Hi X_Taxi

Im selling my modified K Dark Medium ride. Its sounds like a big dark crash, I think it will suit your taste.  :)

For one cymbal set-up, the K Session Crash, the one that Steve Gadd is a great all around cymbal, or a Paiste 2002 Medium. Althought the prices of those cymbals are pricey.

Thanks for the offer bro! But my technique is not good. Will probably break it kasi repaired na. But ganyan nga yun tunog na gusto ko. Trashy na ride na maganda i-crash.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 30, 2016, 11:35:29 AM
superkick 2! hahahah! :-D
yes aquarian and remo dude oks. pero mas ok kung madami cymbals hahahah

Mukhang madadagdagan yun cymbals ko. Very tempted by the unlathed istanbul rides. I originally wanted to like the rude ride kasi it looks great. Drumkit bling siya for me. Pero ayoko mabingi kasi maganda lang tumunog yun rudes pag malakas ang palo.

Ngayon... Nalilito ako sa Origin dark crash VS. turk jazz ride sa lazer festi. The more i play with those, the more they sound the same! Hahaha! And i do love the aesthetics of unlathed cymbals.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on April 30, 2016, 11:38:43 AM

im pretty sure the others will agree when I say


SKII! HAHAHAHA

3k pala yun head! Hahaha! Di kasama sa sale. Yikes! Will try to wear out my stock heads para mapilitan na ko palitan! Pero parang matagal ang buhay ng stock kickdrum skins ko.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on May 02, 2016, 09:31:56 AM
bro worth the investment superkick two coming from a solid remo guy. hahaha
bro get what you need lang pero mas maganda madami ka sound for cymbals hahahaha!
joke try lang ng try kasi our ears would evolve so mapapalitan yan hahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 02, 2016, 09:36:42 AM
3k pala yun head! Hahaha! Di kasama sa sale. Yikes! Will try to wear out my stock heads para mapilitan na ko palitan! Pero parang matagal ang buhay ng stock kickdrum skins ko.

yeap, but def worth it bruuuuu. iba tunog ng kick pag sk2, swear!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 02, 2016, 12:23:50 PM
Hahaha! Superkick ii soon...

Just tried the paiste twenty 20" ride. Ang suabe! Its a sweet cymbal. Ganda rin ng crash niya. Nalilito ako between this one and the istanbul origin dark 20" ride. Hindi na lang ako bibili ng stand para one cymbal pa rin...
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 11, 2016, 12:49:28 PM
Got my superkick ii! Less 10% sa lyric, so may pambili ng eq patch for double peds. Not sure if i need the eq aspect of the patch but it allegedly prolongs the life of the head. So no harm. Wish me luck sa pag-tune! Hahaha! Have absolutely no idea but only have the almighty youtube for guidance.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 11, 2016, 04:12:59 PM
(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/Mobile%20Uploads/20160511_160144.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160511_160144.jpg.html)

Nakakabit na. One word to describe it is focused. Or punchy. Hahaha! Basta walang overtones. Parang may unan sa loob.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: sonicassault on May 11, 2016, 07:38:59 PM
Got my superkick ii! Less 10% sa lyric, so may pambili ng eq patch for double peds. Not sure if i need the eq aspect of the patch but it allegedly prolongs the life of the head. So no harm. Wish me luck sa pag-tune! Hahaha! Have absolutely no idea but only have the almighty youtube for guidance.
May EQ aspect nga ba talaga yung patch na yan? Ang alam ko kasi kaya sya EQ patch kasi hindi nya iibahin yung tone and response ng head kahit nakakabit na, but I may be wrong!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 11, 2016, 09:00:22 PM
May EQ aspect nga ba talaga yung patch na yan? Ang alam ko kasi kaya sya EQ patch kasi hindi nya iibahin yung tone and response ng head kahit nakakabit na, but I may be wrong!

That's good to know sir. I kinda assumed some sort of eq dahil sa name. The reason i got it kasi may discount so pinambili ko lang yun sukli, hopin also to get more life out of the expensive head.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 12, 2016, 10:17:07 AM
congrats on your SKII paps!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 12, 2016, 10:24:50 AM
congrats on your SKII paps!

Salamat sa advice sir! Panalo talaga yun superkick ii! Best 3k i've ever spent for my drums!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 26, 2017, 05:05:27 PM
bro worth the investment superkick two coming from a solid remo guy. hahaha
bro get what you need lang pero mas maganda madami ka sound for cymbals hahahaha!
joke try lang ng try kasi our ears would evolve so mapapalitan yan hahaha

Tama ka sir! Got a new crash from the lyric sale. Hahaha! Hirap magpigil!

Was actually lookin for a 21" crashable ride. Wala stock ng sweet ride 21".
So looked around muna. Checked out the 21" origin dark. Pero hindi sale so sabi ko balikan ko na lang.
Daming 22" Paiste na maganda sa audiophile, pero distracted myself and just got a seymour duncan quarter pound for my strat.
Balik sa jb & was so tempted by the 22" high def k zildjian. Pero stopped myself kasi I just got the jim root cab.
Punta lyric to get speaker cable, then I saw the byzance extra dry thin crash! Love at first strike! Very trashy, almost like a china! Bagay sa meinl dark crash ko. So there. Took it home. Ginawa ko ride muna si dark classic customs.

Next on my wish list is either that signature ride from the drummer from tool, 22" high def k or transition ride. Hahaha! Hassle talaga!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on May 26, 2017, 10:40:32 PM
Nakakamiss ang ganitong topics sa PD.
^huwag ka magpigil sa Ride! Choose one that you think fits.

Congrats sa SK2, di ka bibiguin niyan. Using 20's sa Gretsch kit namin sa Church for two years. Still in good condition
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 27, 2017, 09:16:25 AM
Nakakamiss ang ganitong topics sa PD.
^huwag ka magpigil sa Ride! Choose one that you think fits.

Congrats sa SK2, di ka bibiguin niyan. Using 20's sa Gretsch kit namin sa Church for two years. Still in good condition
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Salamat sir! Sulit yun sk2. Nilipat ko nga sa vision series ko.

Now I got confused by 22" rides that Ive been checkin out lately. Toss up between the istanbul turk, paiste dark energy, byzance extra dry or k custom high definition! Sakit sa ulo pumili.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on May 27, 2017, 11:47:57 AM
Nakakamiss ang ganitong topics sa PD.
^huwag ka magpigil sa Ride! Choose one that you think fits.

Congrats sa SK2, di ka bibiguin niyan. Using 20's sa Gretsch kit namin sa Church for two years. Still in good condition
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Salamat sir! Sulit yun sk2. Nilipat ko nga sa vision series ko.

Now I got confused by 22" rides that Ive been checkin out lately. Toss up between the istanbul turk, paiste dark energy, byzance extra dry or k custom high definition! Sakit sa ulo pumili.
Hulaan ko gusto mo? Between K Hi Def lang o Istanbul no?  :lol:
Joke lang. Yun ang dalawang choice ko. Sana may pera din ako to get one of those
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 27, 2017, 02:18:03 PM
Hulaan ko gusto mo? Between K Hi Def lang o Istanbul no?  :lol:
Joke lang. Yun ang dalawang choice ko. Sana may pera din ako to get one of those

Paiste dark energy > byzance extra dry > k custom high definition > istanbul turk

Hahaha! Depende yata sa budget. Hmmmm.... hirap mag-isip....
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 29, 2017, 10:16:19 AM
Tama ka sir! Got a new crash from the lyric sale. Hahaha! Hirap magpigil!

Was actually lookin for a 21" crashable ride. Wala stock ng sweet ride 21".
So looked around muna. Checked out the 21" origin dark. Pero hindi sale so sabi ko balikan ko na lang.
Daming 22" Paiste na maganda sa audiophile, pero distracted myself and just got a seymour duncan quarter pound for my strat.
Balik sa jb & was so tempted by the 22" high def k zildjian. Pero stopped myself kasi I just got the jim root cab.
Punta lyric to get speaker cable, then I saw the byzance extra dry thin crash! Love at first strike! Very trashy, almost like a china! Bagay sa meinl dark crash ko. So there. Took it home. Ginawa ko ride muna si dark classic customs.

Next on my wish list is either that signature ride from the drummer from tool, 22" high def k or transition ride. Hahaha! Hassle talaga!

try ka rin sabian :D HHX is a different animal :D
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on May 29, 2017, 10:17:52 AM
try ka rin sabian :D HHX is a different animal :D

Salamat sa tip sir! Hhx ba yun trashy? Yun ang hanap ko.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on May 29, 2017, 10:32:54 AM
Salamat sa tip sir! Hhx ba yun trashy? Yun ang hanap ko.
Sabian Legacy Ride. Yan trashy but pricey
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 29, 2017, 03:18:36 PM
Sabian Legacy Ride. Yan trashy but pricey

mismoness. kaya yan! gas attack, best to get the best!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on May 29, 2017, 08:09:30 PM
mismoness. kaya yan! gas attack, best to get the best!
21's Legacy HHX are the best for me in terms of trash talaga. Solid yan. Pati presyo
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 30, 2017, 01:13:12 PM
21's Legacy HHX are the best for me in terms of trash talaga. Solid yan. Pati presyo

lahat naman ng sabian eh huhuhuhu then again, afford ni papi x_taxi ang meinl. most prob afford niya si sabian.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on May 30, 2017, 09:21:16 PM
lahat naman ng sabian eh huhuhuhu then again, afford ni papi x_taxi ang meinl. most prob afford niya si sabian.
Kunsabagay. Lahat nga ng Sabian Rides na napalo ko, Versatile. XS20 Days pucha panalo na. How much more those expensive ones
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 31, 2017, 10:31:13 AM
Kunsabagay. Lahat nga ng Sabian Rides na napalo ko, Versatile. XS20 Days pucha panalo na. How much more those expensive ones


trudat. sobrang limited lang talaga ng models na pinapasok ng yupangco. :( syang yung ganda nung brand tuloy :(
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on May 31, 2017, 12:13:55 PM
trudat. sobrang limited lang talaga ng models na pinapasok ng yupangco. :( syang yung ganda nung brand tuloy :(
Hi end na nakita ko sa mall is AA's / AAx lang. Wala nang iba.

Alam ko pwede pre order ang hi end sa yupangco. Ku quote an ka ng price tsaka i iimport dito
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 01, 2017, 04:44:04 PM
lahat naman ng sabian eh huhuhuhu then again, afford ni papi x_taxi ang meinl. most prob afford niya si sabian.

Got me curious bout the legacy rides. Havent considered the sabians kasi. How does it compare to a byzance sand ride, which is currently in my shortlist? Di kasi macompare dito sa pinas na side by side. Id like to use my ears pero baka may experience kayo mga bossing. You know I value your opinions mga idol!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 01, 2017, 04:48:48 PM
Got me curious bout the legacy rides. Havent considered the sabians kasi. How does it compare to a byzance sand ride, which is currently in my shortlist? Di kasi macompare dito sa pinas na side by side. Id like to use my ears pero baka may experience kayo mga bossing. You know I value your opinions mga idol!

better imho. mas versatile ang sabian kesa Meinl imho. then again, the byzance sand ride is also a good choice hahaha either way hindi ka naman talo :)
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 01, 2017, 07:47:31 PM
Got me curious bout the legacy rides. Havent considered the sabians kasi. How does it compare to a byzance sand ride, which is currently in my shortlist? Di kasi macompare dito sa pinas na side by side. Id like to use my ears pero baka may experience kayo mga bossing. You know I value your opinions mga idol!
Imo Meinl Byzance for me puro Dry, i mean super Dry.
Agree with ralph Versatile ang Legacy.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 05, 2017, 09:24:09 PM
Imo Meinl Byzance for me puro Dry, i mean super Dry.
Agree with ralph Versatile ang Legacy.

Wala dito sa south na yupangco to check out the sabians. Pero based sa website parang wala rin stock. Phone calls are close to useless, since walang alam usually ang sumasagot. Gusto ko talaga ma-try sana pero wala ako mapalo sa suggestions nila ralph & drummeroo. Curious din talaga ako sa legacy.

Since sale sa lyric, was a long conflicted decision between the vintage pure 22" vs the sand ride 20" vs transition 21". Magaling lang talaga si benny greb so I got sold on the sand hats. Sa savings ko, since sale, may pambili ng china. So daan din ako sa lazer and got a 16" turk china. Iba din talaga pag sale. Masakit sa bulsa.

Next stop, need to upgrade my paiste medium alpha hats. Since sabi ni sir peeves constantinoples daw, its a toss up between those, the keropes, or paiste signature dark energy. Pinakamalapit yun dark energy sa setup ko. Yun thin top with an extra heavy bottom.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 06, 2017, 01:38:40 AM
Wala dito sa south na yupangco to check out the sabians. Pero based sa website parang wala rin stock. Phone calls are close to useless, since walang alam usually ang sumasagot. Gusto ko talaga ma-try sana pero wala ako mapalo sa suggestions nila ralph & drummeroo. Curious din talaga ako sa legacy.

Since sale sa lyric, was a long conflicted decision between the vintage pure 22" vs the sand ride 20" vs transition 21". Magaling lang talaga si benny greb so I got sold on the sand hats. Sa savings ko, since sale, may pambili ng china. So daan din ako sa lazer and got a 16" turk china. Iba din talaga pag sale. Masakit sa bulsa.

Next stop, need to upgrade my paiste medium alpha hats. Since sabi ni sir peeves constantinoples daw, its a toss up between those, the keropes, or paiste signature dark energy. Pinakamalapit yun dark energy sa setup ko. Yun thin top with an extra heavy bottom.
Nakita ko kerope hats sa Mega. 22k 30% off na. Sobra yon.

Mukhang meron kanang list ng pagpipilian? And also if ever gala ka din sa facebook Classfields o dito kung dumating sa point na ma consider mo 2nd hand. Medyo mahal talaga pag brand new. Marami namang 2nd hand na pristine cond out there.
Nakakalula kasi prices nila pag bnew 😊
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 06, 2017, 09:11:08 AM
Nakita ko kerope hats sa Mega. 22k 30% off na. Sobra yon.

Mukhang meron kanang list ng pagpipilian? And also if ever gala ka din sa facebook Classfields o dito kung dumating sa point na ma consider mo 2nd hand. Medyo mahal talaga pag brand new. Marami namang 2nd hand na pristine cond out there.
Nakakalula kasi prices nila pag bnew 😊

Uy puede... Nasa 31k yun paiste dark energy. Gusto ko din sana ng twenty masters pero di Ko pa alam kung san meron.

Pero ok pa naman yun alphas, meshes well with the b20 stuff. pero gusto ko lang ng sana puro b20. Wala lang. We all have our own quirks I guess.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 06, 2017, 09:31:57 AM
Uy puede... Nasa 31k yun paiste dark energy. Gusto ko din sana ng twenty masters pero di Ko pa alam kung san meron.

Pero ok pa naman yun alphas, meshes well with the b20 stuff. pero gusto ko lang ng sana puro b20. Wala lang. We all have our own quirks I guess.

totally understand you. though I find the paiste 2002s and alphas sound to be good, ayoko parin siya in my setup kasi... B8 ahhahahaha! =)) pero as long debated, misconception na pag B8 eh entry level. depende parni sa hammering and lathing. I'd love to get me a 2002 18 crash hahaha

kung mag aallout ako sa cymbals, siguro etong mga series na to ang kasali:

SABIAN HHX Legacy
SABIAN HHX Evolution
ZILDJIAN K Con/Kerope
MEINL BYZANCE


Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 06, 2017, 10:26:20 AM
totally understand you. though I find the paiste 2002s and alphas sound to be good, ayoko parin siya in my setup kasi... B8 ahhahahaha! =)) pero as long debated, misconception na pag B8 eh entry level. depende parni sa hammering and lathing. I'd love to get me a 2002 18 crash hahaha

kung mag aallout ako sa cymbals, siguro etong mga series na to ang kasali:

SABIAN HHX Legacy
SABIAN HHX Evolution
ZILDJIAN K Con/Kerope
MEINL BYZANCE

Hahaha! Kala ko maarte lang ako. Which sabian hats available locally that are dark & crispy? I do like medium light tops & extra heavy bottoms. Like my medium alphas pero b20! Hahaha!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 06, 2017, 11:13:27 AM
Hahaha! Kala ko maarte lang ako. Which sabian hats available locally that are dark & crispy? I do like medium light tops & extra heavy bottoms. Like my medium alphas pero b20! Hahaha!

Zildjian K/Z 13 or 14. nuff said.

kung sabian?... HHX Stage siguro. pero K/Z talaga hahaha studio standard hahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 06, 2017, 12:00:31 PM
Quote from: Ralph_Petrucci link=topic=330954.msg4787923#ms!7923 date=1496718807
Zildjian K/Z 13 or 14. nuff said.

kung sabian?... HHX Stage siguro. pero K/Z talaga hahaha studio standard hahaha

Between the constantinoples & keropes, which is the drier cymbal? Parang gusto ko bumalik zildjian. Para maiba lang. Pero nandyan pa rin ang byzance extra dry sa list, which I love the sound of. Tunog at itsurang tutong. Dark & crispy. Parang biko. Sweet as [strawberry]!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 06, 2017, 12:52:36 PM
Between the constantinoples & keropes, which is the drier cymbal? Parang gusto ko bumalik zildjian. Para maiba lang. Pero nandyan pa rin ang byzance extra dry sa list, which I love the sound of. Tunog at itsurang tutong. Dark & crispy. Parang biko. Sweet as [strawberry]!

I'd go K Con. pero byzance talaga kung dry at sa dry lang. hahaha

Be wary though, you might get lost in the mix! ;)
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 06, 2017, 01:09:39 PM
I'd go K Con. pero byzance talaga kung dry at sa dry lang. hahaha

Be wary though, you might get lost in the mix! ;)

Hahaha! Its cool bro. I dont gig anymore. Tsaka im just learnin drums. Bed room rocker here brotha!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 06, 2017, 02:22:16 PM
Hahaha! Its cool bro. I dont gig anymore. Tsaka im just learnin drums. Bed room rocker here brotha!

mas masrap pa rin paglitaw ka sa play along hahahaha!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 06, 2017, 02:35:11 PM
mas masrap pa rin paglitaw ka sa play along hahahaha!

Tama ka diyan. Meron bang hats malutong na shimmery like hats used in an overprocessed hiphop beat? Somethin aggressive for breakbeats? Parang style ni travis barker. May ganun ba, short of usin samples. Hahaha!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 06, 2017, 02:51:46 PM
Tama ka diyan. Meron bang hats malutong na shimmery like hats used in an overprocessed hiphop beat? Somethin aggressive for breakbeats? Parang style ni travis barker. May ganun ba, short of usin samples. Hahaha!

mga heavy hats yan paps usually. kung travis barker ha

yung mga tipong 808 hi hat, feeling ko mga super thin naman. yung jaskeng special recording hats. sobrang lutong, ganda ng chick and closed hat sounds!

12" Special Recording Hats to this day, I want. okay dni yung remix hats.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 07, 2017, 01:12:04 PM
mga heavy hats yan paps usually. kung travis barker ha

yung mga tipong 808 hi hat, feeling ko mga super thin naman. yung jaskeng special recording hats. sobrang lutong, ganda ng chick and closed hat sounds!

12" Special Recording Hats to this day, I want. okay dni yung remix hats.

Hmmm. .. more options... will call my suking jb sales. They said they could transfer a few of my choices just so I could compare timbre & stick response. Gettin more confused the more I get suggestions.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 07, 2017, 01:15:11 PM
Hmmm. .. more options... will call my suking jb sales. They said they could transfer a few of my choices just so I could compare timbre & stick response. Gettin more confused the more I get suggestions.

yeah bro, but it helps to avoid multiple and unnecessary purchases hahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 07, 2017, 10:38:17 PM
mga heavy hats yan paps usually. kung travis barker ha

yung mga tipong 808 hi hat, feeling ko mga super thin naman. yung jaskeng special recording hats. sobrang lutong, ganda ng chick and closed hat sounds!

12" Special Recording Hats to this day, I want. okay dni yung remix hats.
Tigas ng Remix bro.

Good idea Special Rec Hats. O di kaya pocket hats yun bagay sa panlasa mo
Sa Zildjian marami variations eh. Paiste Alpha shimmery din
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 08, 2017, 03:26:40 PM
Tigas ng Remix bro.

Good idea Special Rec Hats. O di kaya pocket hats yun bagay sa panlasa mo
Sa Zildjian marami variations eh. Paiste Alpha shimmery din

ganda kasi nung tunog nung ginamit ng drummer ni Ron Henley. napalingont talga ako. tinanong ko anong hats yun sabi niya Zildjian Remix hats tapos pinapahiram pa sakin hahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 08, 2017, 08:17:44 PM
May sabian artisan 13" sa classifieds. Any good? Deadma yun seller. Wala rin contact info. Been on sale since 2015. No takers?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 10, 2017, 11:32:51 AM
Did my calls to the stores. Available lang na maliit ay meinl m series 13", k matched 13" & byzance 12" medium. Ano sa tingin niyp mga master? The dude sellin the 13" sabian ignores me. So dehin ko na kulitin baka busy.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 10, 2017, 01:28:14 PM
may pocket hats din pala. texted the seller pero hintay ko reply. lalo akong nalilito. want that chunky bright sound. hindi ko alam describe. sabi ng reviews basta dry and high pitched daw yun pocket hats.

almost got that byzance dark hats pero mukhang mamawala ako sa mix when i play along to music. so scratch that option.

mukhang kausap ko na lang sarili ko... hahaha! san na kayo mga idol?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 12, 2017, 12:16:57 PM
Now its a toss up between the zildjian pocket hats vs meinl m series...  parehong 13"... puede pang breakbeat or hiphop siguro yun kalansing. Siguro secondary hats to my medium alphas?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 13, 2017, 06:45:29 PM
give me a song/youtube link that has a hihat sound that you would like.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 13, 2017, 06:55:38 PM
Now its a toss up between the zildjian pocket hats vs meinl m series...  parehong 13"... puede pang breakbeat or hiphop siguro yun kalansing. Siguro secondary hats to my medium alphas?
Try mo Sabian Fusion hats. Try lang
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 14, 2017, 09:14:27 AM
give me a song/youtube link that has a hihat sound that you would like.

Paibaiba preference ko. Pero hanap ako. Usually those in mixes are eq-d and compressed so much they dont sound like the real thing. Kinda like youtube reviews of cymbals sound pretty much the same, I just wait for the actual comment of the drummer on the response and suitability.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 14, 2017, 09:16:49 AM
Try mo Sabian Fusion hats. Try lang

San po sir maka-try nun?

Now its between the m-series meinl vs the k matched hats. First one is 9k & the other is 13k (with trade-in) but 16k promo.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 14, 2017, 10:14:08 AM
Paibaiba preference ko. Pero hanap ako. Usually those in mixes are eq-d and compressed so much they dont sound like the real thing. Kinda like youtube reviews of cymbals sound pretty much the same, I just wait for the actual comment of the drummer on the response and suitability.


yes, I know that factor. I played in a number of studios and recordings. hence, im familiar with how these hats will sound in real life versus the recording.

regarding response, depende rin kasi sa sticks na gamit mo, and your sticking technique.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 14, 2017, 11:43:32 AM
yes, I know that factor. I played in a number of studios and recordings. hence, im familiar with how these hats will sound in real life versus the recording.

regarding response, depende rin kasi sa sticks na gamit mo, and your sticking technique.

Cool bro! My ears cant tell. Hahaha! Im lookin for that timbaland crispiness, yun gamit sa score ng empire tv series. Will look for a proper link. Alam ko sampled beats yun, pero I want the closest I could get to an acoustic kit.

Kung stick response & technique pala yun, praktis muna ako.

By the way, di ako nakatiis sa byzance extra dry hats! That is one very musical pair of b20 hand hammered [gooey brown stuff]! Tama kayo mga sir na mahina siya, pero bagay na bagay sa sand ride ko! But yes... still lookin for that dark crispy hats!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 14, 2017, 11:50:39 AM
Cool bro! My ears cant tell. Hahaha! Im lookin for that timbaland crispiness, yun gamit sa score ng empire tv series. Will look for a proper link. Alam ko sampled beats yun, pero I want the closest I could get to an acoustic kit.

Kung stick response & technique pala yun, praktis muna ako.

By the way, di ako nakatiis sa byzance extra dry hats! That is one very musical pair of b20 hand hammered [gooey brown stuff]! Tama kayo mga sir na mahina siya, pero bagay na bagay sa sand ride ko! But yes... still lookin for that dark crispy hats!


post picssss <3
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 14, 2017, 04:12:25 PM
post picssss <3

here ya go bro!!!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_8731.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_8731.jpg.html)

the byzances dont photograph well. but its a sweet soundin hat. walang sizzle, but that half-open hat sound is just so trashy sweet!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 14, 2017, 08:55:14 PM
here ya go bro!!!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_8731.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_8731.jpg.html)

the byzances dont photograph well. but its a sweet soundin hat. walang sizzle, but that half-open hat sound is just so trashy sweet!
Shiyet. Ang gara. Kailan pwede ma test hihi
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 15, 2017, 09:38:24 AM
here ya go bro!!!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_8731.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_8731.jpg.html)

the byzances dont photograph well. but its a sweet soundin hat. walang sizzle, but that half-open hat sound is just so trashy sweet!

I envy <333 congrats on the purchase bro!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 15, 2017, 03:33:55 PM
Salamat mga bro!

I feel my guitars get neglected nowadays. Ang hassle kasi sa guitar yun pagpili ng amp. Tapos magtotono ka pa. Hahaha! Saksak mo. Warm up ng mga tubo. Walang ganun sa drums. Well yun pag nag-cramps. Pero ayos lang, parang work out lang.

The byzances are so much musical parang madaya kasi lahat ng palo mo maganda. Mahina nga. Pero maganda naman. Wala talaga ako masabing panget.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 15, 2017, 03:56:35 PM
Salamat mga bro!

I feel my guitars get neglected nowadays. Ang hassle kasi sa guitar yun pagpili ng amp. Tapos magtotono ka pa. Hahaha! Saksak mo. Warm up ng mga tubo. Walang ganun sa drums. Well yun pag nag-cramps. Pero ayos lang, parang work out lang.

The byzances are so much musical parang madaya kasi lahat ng palo mo maganda. Mahina nga. Pero maganda naman. Wala talaga ako masabing panget.

yun lang pintas. mahina. but I find, usually the musical sounding cymbals are the ones that lack volume. for example, Istanbul sultans, Stagg Vintage Bronze. these pies are low volume but sound super sweet to the ear!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 15, 2017, 07:31:44 PM
yun lang pintas. mahina. but I find, usually the musical sounding cymbals are the ones that lack volume. for example, Istanbul sultans, Stagg Vintage Bronze. these pies are low volume but sound super sweet to the ear!
Naalala ko MyxMo. Sir Robert Dela Cruz Gamit Niya Stagg VB Ride. Pucha. Ang gara ng tunog. Ang gara ng bell.

Sana makachamba ako ng exact ride
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 15, 2017, 08:17:16 PM
yun lang pintas. mahina. but I find, usually the musical sounding cymbals are the ones that lack volume. for example, Istanbul sultans, Stagg Vintage Bronze. these pies are low volume but sound super sweet to the ear!

May hiyaw yan bro!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 15, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
Naalala ko MyxMo. Sir Robert Dela Cruz Gamit Niya Stagg VB Ride. Pucha. Ang gara ng tunog. Ang gara ng bell.

Sana makachamba ako ng exact ride

ganda talga VB. kulang lang talaga volume. maganda pag may mic syempre hahaha

May hiyaw yan bro!

BULYAW =))
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 15, 2017, 08:32:06 PM
ganda talga VB. kulang lang talaga volume. maganda pag may mic syempre hahaha

BULYAW =))
Nag crave ako bigla sa VB ah Lintek
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 16, 2017, 07:24:19 PM
Musta mga wuhan? Di ba china made parang stagg. Sabi sa net b20 hand hammered. They are extremely cheap though. They look it too.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 16, 2017, 11:41:33 PM
Musta mga wuhan? Di ba china made parang stagg. Sabi sa net b20 hand hammered. They are extremely cheap though. They look it too.
Yung Primitive Series one of hi end ng Wuhan. Dati endorser si sir Rickson nun
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 17, 2017, 08:19:09 AM
Yung Primitive Series one of hi end ng Wuhan. Dati endorser si sir Rickson nun

Nice! Sige hanap ako kung san meron to try it out.

Na-curious ako sa sabian. Wala ba talagang local showroom that stocks those? Independent sellers?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 18, 2017, 02:06:08 PM
Nice! Sige hanap ako kung san meron to try it out.

Na-curious ako sa sabian. Wala ba talagang local showroom that stocks those? Independent sellers?
Yung isinuggest kong 13" Fusion hats. Kaso nakabili kana pala hihi.

Di ko sure kung active pa si sir JP dito ng Yupangco. Ang alam ko kasi pag may special Request ka ng Sabian matutulungan ka nya.
Perfect Pitch alam ko meron din Sabian pero kadalasan AA o AAx lang
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 19, 2017, 10:07:14 AM
Yung isinuggest kong 13" Fusion hats. Kaso nakabili kana pala hihi.

Di ko sure kung active pa si sir JP dito ng Yupangco. Ang alam ko kasi pag may special Request ka ng Sabian matutulungan ka nya.
Perfect Pitch alam ko meron din Sabian pero kadalasan AA o AAx lang


matagal na wala si JP sa yupangco hahaha

Nice! Sige hanap ako kung san meron to try it out.

Na-curious ako sa sabian. Wala ba talagang local showroom that stocks those? Independent sellers?

the wuhans are inconsistent. though b20 bronze siya, some may sound bad, while others may sound sweet. hand hammered eh. IMHO, Stagg is better than Wuhan.



Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 19, 2017, 11:16:16 AM
matagal na wala si JP sa yupangco hahaha

the wuhans are inconsistent. though b20 bronze siya, some may sound bad, while others may sound sweet. hand hammered eh. IMHO, Stagg is better than Wuhan.

Ay talaga? Parang kailan lang nag inquire ako ng Studio Crash sa kanya.

Wuhans for me lahat okay naman. Inconsistent talaga siguro dahil nga malamang sa Cheap eh tinipid din ang pagkakagawa at materyales. Okay sakin Primitive Ride hats pati mga China lalo na yung malalaki
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 19, 2017, 01:40:27 PM
Ay talaga? Parang kailan lang nag inquire ako ng Studio Crash sa kanya.

Wuhans for me lahat okay naman. Inconsistent talaga siguro dahil nga malamang sa Cheap eh tinipid din ang pagkakagawa at materyales. Okay sakin Primitive Ride hats pati mga China lalo na yung malalaki


JP BUDUAN ba? wala na papsi. buhay MMA na siya ngayon hahaha.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 19, 2017, 08:52:33 PM
JP BUDUAN ba? wala na papsi. buhay MMA na siya ngayon hahaha.

Oo siya nga.

Ano nangyare? As in wala na siya dun? Seriously?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 20, 2017, 10:27:09 AM
Oo siya nga.

Ano nangyare? As in wala na siya dun? Seriously?

oo tol. mejo may katagalan na siyang wala dun :D. nag focus na siya sa MMA/jiujitsu Training niya :)
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 20, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
oo tol. mejo may katagalan na siyang wala dun :D. nag focus na siya sa MMA/jiujitsu Training niya :)
Ay sayang naman. Dami pa naman niya natulungan na ka PM dito regarding items.

Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 21, 2017, 08:50:16 AM
Jp who used to work for yupangco? May naalala ako dati na jp who did tech for bea lao sa gig namin dati sa saguijo. Used to be in a metalcore band with bea, doin slipknot & killswitch engage covers. Mma na pala siya.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Mr.cLEEn on June 23, 2017, 02:45:31 PM
Paiste PST 5 Uni set, Paiste PST 7 Uni set and Paiste PST 8 rock. mura lang ang mga yan.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 27, 2017, 09:38:16 AM
Paiste PST 5 Uni set, Paiste PST 7 Uni set and Paiste PST 8 rock. mura lang ang mga yan.

thanks sa tip sir. will check those out!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 27, 2017, 09:48:03 AM
yes, I know that factor. I played in a number of studios and recordings. hence, im familiar with how these hats will sound in real life versus the recording.

regarding response, depende rin kasi sa sticks na gamit mo, and your sticking technique.

got these last weekend! now i understand the nuances of stick technique. of all my hats this one is what i would call versatile! very aggressive when bashed, but cleans up very, very nicely. mukhang matututo ako ng stick response and dynamics dito!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_8744.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_8744.jpg.html)

13" m series medium hi hats!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 27, 2017, 12:59:04 PM
got these last weekend! now i understand the nuances of stick technique. of all my hats this one is what i would call versatile! very aggressive when bashed, but cleans up very, very nicely. mukhang matututo ako ng stick response and dynamics dito!

(http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/x_taxi/IMG_8744.jpg) (http://s52.photobucket.com/user/x_taxi/media/IMG_8744.jpg.html)

13" m series medium hi hats!

awesome bro! :) experiment din with different stick tips. personally, I like the jazz/round tips better than the normal bean/oval shape.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on June 28, 2017, 08:40:54 PM
awesome bro! :) experiment din with different stick tips. personally, I like the jazz/round tips better than the normal bean/oval shape.

Sarap Jazz Sticks. Defined ang tunog
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 30, 2017, 11:05:55 AM
awesome bro! :) experiment din with different stick tips. personally, I like the jazz/round tips better than the normal bean/oval shape.

think i got the rounded tips. eto yun naka-sale sa jb na walang tatak pero name brand daw. smaller than my old 9a which i started on. found the 5 too big kasi. i also get the unmarked sticks from audiophile. ganun din daw yun, unmarked over runs from some name brand. basta binibili ko yun pinakamura lagi. but i never break sticks ever.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2017, 11:57:13 AM
think i got the rounded tips. eto yun naka-sale sa jb na walang tatak pero name brand daw. smaller than my old 9a which i started on. found the 5 too big kasi. i also get the unmarked sticks from audiophile. ganun din daw yun, unmarked over runs from some name brand. basta binibili ko yun pinakamura lagi. but i never break sticks ever.


oi ano yang unmarked sticks na yan sa audiophile? how mats? :O lyric Vic Firth 9+1 ako lagi, kaso lately ampapanget na nung finish, sobrang bako bako na.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on June 30, 2017, 01:43:39 PM
oi ano yang unmarked sticks na yan sa audiophile? how mats? :O lyric Vic Firth 9+1 ako lagi, kaso lately ampapanget na nung finish, sobrang bako bako na.

Sabi nung sales sa festi, promark daw na un labelled. I usually just choose a pair based on weight. Yun sa jb, parang vic firth yata. Not sure. Basta mura, and pretty good too.

8a hickory pala yun gamit ko dati, yun lazer na brand. Pretty good actually. My zildjian 5's never get any use at all.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2017, 03:14:26 PM
Sabi nung sales sa festi, promark daw na un labelled. I usually just choose a pair based on weight. Yun sa jb, parang vic firth yata. Not sure. Basta mura, and pretty good too.

8a hickory pala yun gamit ko dati, yun lazer na brand. Pretty good actually. My zildjian 5's never get any use at all.


8a hickory ni lazer sobrang favorite ko! yan yung definition ko ng perfect stick! round tip and a good taper. tska amtibay!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 01, 2017, 02:59:15 PM
8a hickory ni lazer sobrang favorite ko! yan yung definition ko ng perfect stick! round tip and a good taper. tska amtibay!

Yup! Still have mine. A bit scuffed but still usable. Wrong spelling pa nga eh. MUSICAL INSTRUNENTS!

Cymbal update! Since I find the sand ride too trashy, gusto ko yata ng mabait na ride, I did the usual phone calls to find out stock availability. May nakabili na ng 22" pure vintage sa moa. So scratch that idea. Sa atc meron pang byzance. Was checkin out the 21" medium ride with the 20" dark classics custom. Hirap mag-decide...

Long story short, I went home with both! Hahaha! Di na muna ako lalabas ng bahay.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 03, 2017, 03:22:44 PM
Yup! Still have mine. A bit scuffed but still usable. Wrong spelling pa nga eh. MUSICAL INSTRUNENTS!

Cymbal update! Since I find the sand ride too trashy, gusto ko yata ng mabait na ride, I did the usual phone calls to find out stock availability. May nakabili na ng 22" pure vintage sa moa. So scratch that idea. Sa atc meron pang byzance. Was checkin out the 21" medium ride with the 20" dark classics custom. Hirap mag-decide...

Long story short, I went home with both! Hahaha! Di na muna ako lalabas ng bahay.

tol, on another note, ampunin mo anlang ako pls HAHAHAHAHA lets jam if you're free!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 05, 2017, 06:58:53 AM
tol, on another note, ampunin mo anlang ako pls HAHAHAHAHA lets jam if you're free!

Hahaha! Puede pero bass ako.

Whats a good crash  in between  my 16" extra dry thin byzance & 19 classics custom dark? Only have budget for istanbul. Parang gusto ko ng traditional,  radiant sweet, samatya or that funky one with the black bell!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 05, 2017, 11:04:01 AM
Hahaha! Puede pero bass ako.

Whats a good crash  in between  my 16" extra dry thin byzance & 19 classics custom dark? Only have budget for istanbul. Parang gusto ko ng traditional,  radiant sweet, samatya or that funky one with the black bell!

an Istanbul 18 would be a great crash. my workhorse is an 18 Istanbul Sultan. I always got great comments from other people, drummers and non drummers alike on the sound of that crash.

generally however, an 18 crash will always sound sweet hahaha

I suggest 18 and main crash mo, tapos 16 ang aux, yung 19 ang nasa right side. swabehan setup.

Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 05, 2017, 11:11:58 AM
an Istanbul 18 would be a great crash. my workhorse is an 18 Istanbul Sultan. I always got great comments from other people, drummers and non drummers alike on the sound of that crash.

generally however, an 18 crash will always sound sweet hahaha

I suggest 18 and main crash mo, tapos 16 ang aux, yung 19 ang nasa right side. swabehan setup.

Pag 18, do I get a medium or thin? Wala na yata sultan sa lazer festi. Pero meron yata samatya or radiant sweet.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 05, 2017, 11:16:30 AM
Pag 18, do I get a medium or thin? Wala na yata sultan sa lazer festi. Pero meron yata samatya or radiant sweet.

samatya and radiant sweet are both good. try the traditional as well and the funky. okay kasi lahat ng Istanbul series for me.

I suggest try both. medium siguro. malamang lalabas ka with both hahahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on July 05, 2017, 09:13:04 PM
kung indoor lang get the thin.

kung gusto mo pang gig in general, get the medium
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: harugrugrug on July 06, 2017, 10:22:03 AM
18 crash tama si ralph. iba ang dating ng 18 size. hehehe. :)
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 06, 2017, 12:09:27 PM
18 crash tama si ralph. iba ang dating ng 18 size. hehehe. :)

di kailangang paluin ng malakas para magopen up hahahaha
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 06, 2017, 01:22:57 PM
Thanks sa mga tips sir!

Tried out the 18" crashes sa festi. Between the ones they have on display, to name a few radiant sweet, session, legend, x-ist and funky, I liked the radiant sweet best. Pero lahat medium.

Was actually leanin towards the samatya 16" thin crash pero yun nga maliit. But that one sounded so sweet. So I asked kung may 18" na samatya sa stock room. May nilabas na traditional dark crash an 18". Nung pinalo ko, it sounded like a thin crash! Mabilis nag-open up! Yeah! Best of the bunch by far! Paid for it asap & left to go home!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 06, 2017, 01:46:35 PM
Thanks sa mga tips sir!

Tried out the 18" crashes sa festi. Between the ones they have on display, namely radiant sweet, session and funky, I liked the radiant sweet best. Pero lahat medium.

Was actually leanin towards the samatya 16" thin crash pero yun nga maliit. But that one sounded so sweet. So I asked kung may 18" na samatya sa stock room. May nilabas na traditional dark crash an 18". Nung pinalo ko, turned out it was a thin crash! Yeah! Best of the bunch by far!

traditional foreverrrrr <3  saying walang sultan. solid din yun eh hahaha

so you got the trad?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 06, 2017, 01:55:22 PM
traditional foreverrrrr <3  saying walang sultan. solid din yun eh hahaha

so you got the trad?

Yup! Yun pa yun pinakamura. As in!

Doesnt say anywhere that its a thin crash. Naka stencil lang na dark crash. But it was the fastest crash among the ones I tried.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 06, 2017, 02:01:24 PM
Yup! Yun pa yun pinakamura. As in!

Doesnt say anywhere that its a thin crash. Naka stencil lang na dark crash. But it was the fastest crash among the ones I tried.

tara let's try your setup na :D HAHAHAHAHA will bring in my pies din for you to try pag game ka :D
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on July 06, 2017, 08:02:12 PM
yes thin yung mga traditionals.

nagtataka nga ako kung bakit lowest model sya e samantalang mas maganda sya dun sa mga sultan/radiant achuchuchu
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 07, 2017, 10:28:00 AM
yes thin yung mga traditionals.

nagtataka nga ako kung bakit lowest model sya e samantalang mas maganda sya dun sa mga sultan/radiant achuchuchu

ako rin. ang akala ko nga nung una mas higher line si Traditional hahahaha Traditional > Sultan > Radiant

the radiant sounds like the Stagg Myra for me.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on July 07, 2017, 12:58:27 PM
Sultan yata ang lowend eh
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 07, 2017, 02:59:19 PM
Sultan yata ang lowend eh

base sa pricing parang hinde
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 07, 2017, 07:41:58 PM
tara let's try your setup na :D HAHAHAHAHA will bring in my pies din for you to try pag game ka :D

Balita ko may malupit na amp ka daw...
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 07, 2017, 07:45:31 PM
yes thin yung mga traditionals.

nagtataka nga ako kung bakit lowest model sya e samantalang mas maganda sya dun sa mga sultan/radiant achuchuchu

Same here. Nagulat ako sa presyo. Was expectin it to be more expensive. But the radiant sweet & samatya sounded good also. Pero iba nga tumunog yun traditional.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on July 08, 2017, 06:43:05 PM
Sama naman ako sa palo palo na yan  :wave:
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 10, 2017, 10:32:34 AM
Balita ko may malupit na amp ka daw...

naku, iba paring level yung lupit ng mga amp mo papsi! :)
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 13, 2017, 03:15:06 PM
naku, iba paring level yung lupit ng mga amp mo papsi! :)

Puro low wattage amps lang meron ako bro. Walang pang gig. Bedroom rocker!

Hassle talaga pag dumadaan sa music store. Asked the suking tindahan if they had any 10" hats by any chance. Naglabas ng turk 12" pero was too chunky. Halos thud yun tunog. The 13" origin dark sounded better. Pero lacked that shimmery attack from lathing and hammering. Meron daw 10" sila pero hinahanap pa sa storage. Called back after a few days. Nakatabi na daw para sa akin. Hahaha!

10" medium traditional istanbuls! Looks very small next to my full kit. Pero pang breakbeats! Nice crisp attack!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 13, 2017, 05:42:53 PM
Puro low wattage amps lang meron ako bro. Walang pang gig. Bedroom rocker!

Hassle talaga pag dumadaan sa music store. Asked the suking tindahan if they had any 10" hats by any chance. Naglabas ng turk 12" pero was too chunky. Halos thud yun tunog. The 13" origin dark sounded better. Pero lacked that shimmery attack from lathing and hammering. Meron daw 10" sila pero hinahanap pa sa storage. Called back after a few days. Nakatabi na daw para sa akin. Hahaha!

10" medium traditional istanbuls! Looks very small next to my full kit. Pero pang breakbeats! Nice crisp attack!

putcha, can you take pictures of your kit/pies? :( I wanna see them as a whole </3 monster cymbal sets are just <3
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on July 13, 2017, 07:35:30 PM
kailangan yata ng show and tell. ralph ikaw na magschedule hehehe
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 14, 2017, 10:32:36 AM
kailangan yata ng show and tell. ralph ikaw na magschedule hehehe

mukhang south area din si papai X-Taxi eh. hahaha kung game siya, alam na dis! saktong terno sa Saturn <3
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 17, 2017, 01:26:10 PM
South ako sir...

Parang gusto ko ng direct drive na double peds... maganda yun dw, sana walang stock sa suking tindahan. Ayoko rin magtanong. Lagot ang bank account panigurado. Hahaha! Teka off topic...
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on July 17, 2017, 01:42:46 PM
maganda magtanong para malaman  :lol:

tara ngayong 22 or 23. calling south boys
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 17, 2017, 01:49:02 PM
Naalala ko MyxMo. Sir Robert Dela Cruz Gamit Niya Stagg VB Ride. Pucha. Ang gara ng tunog. Ang gara ng bell.

Sana makachamba ako ng exact ride

May stagg vintage bronze 20" ride sa music source festi. 10k presyo. Kunin mo na bro! Mukhang hinihintay ka...
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 17, 2017, 01:51:10 PM
mukhang south area din si papai X-Taxi eh. hahaha kung game siya, alam na dis! saktong terno sa Saturn <3

Nice saturn v ba yan? That your kit bro?
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 17, 2017, 03:28:05 PM
Nice saturn v ba yan? That your kit bro?


kit ni papi Peeves! that kit just sings! grabe yung kabog ng bass drum. made me gas for an entire kit HAHHAAHAHA kung hindi lang ako Condo Living, most probably nagsaturn na rin ako.

Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on July 17, 2017, 05:56:14 PM
First choice ko dati mapex pero yun meridian birch lang na aqua green sa music source. Next choice ko naman yun tama superstar fusion kit. Birch din yun. Then yun yamaha stage custom na birch. Hahaha! Bagsak ko sa vision series na birch din. Very punchy kit. Prefer it over my pearl midtown, still need to tune that one though. It sounds meh at this point.

Apartment bldg naman ako dati kaya practice pads lang & cheap brass hats lang for technique. Moved to a condo & used a cheap assed medeli e kit as a stop gap. Pero nung ginawa na yun house namin ni misis, reserved one room for my studio & got myself a full kit! My neighbors dont mind.
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 17, 2017, 06:29:31 PM
First choice ko dati mapex pero yun meridian birch lang na aqua green sa music source. Next choice ko naman yun tama superstar fusion kit. Birch din yun. Then yun yamaha stage custom na birch. Hahaha! Bagsak ko sa vision series na birch din. Very punchy kit. Prefer it over my pearl midtown, still need to tune that one though. It sounds meh at this point.

Apartment bldg naman ako dati kaya practice pads lang & cheap brass hats lang for technique. Moved to a condo & used a cheap assed medeli e kit as a stop gap. Pero nung ginawa na yun house namin ni misis, reserved one room for my studio & got myself a full kit! My neighbors dont mind.

show and tell na pls! :D :D :D
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: peeves24 on July 17, 2017, 08:13:49 PM
saturn iv and dw. setup ko silang dalawa pag nag show and tell tayo
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: Drummeroo on July 24, 2017, 07:23:54 AM
saturn iv and dw. setup ko silang dalawa pag nag show and tell tayo
Ayos!
Title: Re: One cymbal setup suggestions
Post by: x_taxi on October 04, 2017, 11:09:07 AM
saturn iv and dw. setup ko silang dalawa pag nag show and tell tayo

Uuuyyy... panalo kit mo sir!

Cymbal update:

Di talaga kaya ng single cymbal! Hahahha! Have a crash, a ride & an fx! With the hats of course. So far i've settled on 13" meinl m-series hats, 18" traditional istanbul crash, 21" sweet ride, & 16" turk china! Goes well with most genres for learnin stuff!

Pero siyempre if I only can have one, it'd probly be the 20" byzance sand ride!