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Title: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 31, 2007, 04:05:04 AM
Please choose one above.. :-D
Title: Formal Lessons vs. Self-Taught
Post by: seyer on November 05, 2007, 09:49:36 PM
i myself is a self thought drummer. basically because during those times that i started to like drumming we didnt have much for it and i didnt have any gears, actually not even a stick.. well i guess that something that made me like it more..thats whats nice in drumming u can hit ur legs and actually create a sound(hitting it harder for the snare sound etc.) i know allot of great drummers who didnt actually took formal lessons. so i guess its ok. i hope you guys share your ideas about this quote.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jeff_proX40 on November 06, 2007, 08:13:25 AM
I had Formal lessons when I was 6-7 years old. Its kinda boring and all the lessons are all about notes, right hands and foot to use and timing. I admit I learned a lot from it specially in reading and creating grooves but for me if I was not taught a formal lesson I can still do what I can do right now on the drums, It's all about how you intergrate your mind in what you do. and its how you try to research new ideas. And sa dinami dami ng mga instuctional videos and other resources ngayon. kahit di na mag formal study yung mga bagong generation ng drummers kaya nilang maging class A drummers eh.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on November 06, 2007, 09:09:41 AM
I am self taught and happy with it... hindi ako natututo but im happy banging stuff hahaha
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: daemonite on November 06, 2007, 10:18:05 AM
I'm self taught drummer pero naglesson pa rin ako kay JP kasi sa opinion ko, everybody needs a professional help para mas ma-improve ang skills natin, oo magaling tayo sa self-taught skills natin, pero hindi ba tayo mas gagaling kung may magtuturo sa atin????
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: cs_mapper on November 06, 2007, 05:58:44 PM
afaic no one is self thought unless gifted ka tlga. lahat gagawa ng paraan para matutong mag drums and that will start from watching other drummers, viewing instructional drum vids, private drum lessons (or hanging out a lot with a good drummer para maka libre ng free lessons hehe which i did a lot during my beginning years at minsan ginagawa ko pa rin dahil di matiis mag-share ng mga kapwa drummers sa totoo lang kung ano man natutuhan nila lately which is the beauty of it all), drum clinics, books, mags and now the INTERNET. so there is always someone/something making you learn it.
Of course the best tlga yung nakaupo ka sa drums tapos may biglang magagawa ka na di mo dati nagagawa or parang sa tingin mo ikaw pa lang ang nakakagawa nuon so yun ang para kin magic moments na purely self thought tlga imo hehe.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: zound_tech on November 06, 2007, 06:51:28 PM
i am pinoydrums taught... hehehe dami kc matututunan sa forum na to, para ka narin nagformal lesson :-)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: rockizta123 on November 06, 2007, 07:32:29 PM
matuto lang ako mag isa... take note! wala akong drums, and i dont always go to my friend to practice drumming and watch them practice... and yes i play invisible drums... :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: cs_mapper on November 06, 2007, 07:40:15 PM
TUMPAK!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: spongklong on November 07, 2007, 12:18:56 PM
Self taught din po ako, but i'm currently taking up drum lessons para alam ko rin magbasa ng note at makakuha ng ibang techniques. @soundtech, tama ka laking tulong din ng forum ng pinoy drums :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Bammbamm on November 07, 2007, 12:45:20 PM
Im a self-taught, and in fact, didn't even have a drumkit to play when I started. Wala ding mentor. Kaya na develop ang pagiging open-handed ko dahil wala talaga akong idea kung ano yung "standard". Hindi rin drummer o style ng music ang nag inspire sa'kin para mag drums. Yung idea lang na pagsabay-sabayin yung apat na limbs para makabuo ng rhythm ang nag-intriga sakin para mag aral akong mag drums. Siguro dahil kasali ako sa ati-atihan sa community namin nung maliit pa ko, saka influence ng pagiging breakdancer ko nung 12 years old ako.
Of course, if given a chance, I would like to take formal lesson especially regarding note-reading. Malaking bagay yun dahil gusto ko mag compose ng drum solo katulad ni Neil Peart. Saka kelangan ko din i-revise yung mga techniques ko - which I believe - is possible only with the help of a drum master. :-)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: toybitz on November 08, 2007, 04:33:57 PM
i enrolled in Yamaha a couple of years ago to learn how to read notes.
but as for technique I learned off from vids, watching gigs and observing what works best for me and the type of music I play.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: plep on November 08, 2007, 04:47:08 PM
i enrolled in Yamaha a couple of years ago to learn how to read notes.
but as for technique I learned off from vids, watching gigs and observing what works best for me and the type of music I play.
pareho ginawa ko.
sa ngayon, back to basics. nakikisabay sa vids ng rudiments sa youtube. ambilis rin kasi nung gumawa nun e!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: raffy_raralo on November 08, 2007, 10:03:57 PM
i was self taught :). and happy with it.. i think that self taught drummers are more versatile.. since they depend more on raw skill and practice more than notes and arent limited to several beats.. they learn from watching drummers and learn a lot from advice.. i dont have a drumset and ddnt take formal lessons.. sticks and pillows lang :))..
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: gamusa on November 09, 2007, 12:36:01 PM
i am self taught din, and im very happy with it. i can read and write na rin drum notation but di ganun kagaling, iba pa rin talaga yung may formal lesson and wish ko lang na makapag- aral pa sana ako, sa drum notes ko lang kasi natutunan yung mga jazz, triplet,shuffle,samba, rock polyrhytm,and syncopation na talagang anlaki ng naitulong sa akin, right now i continue researching sa youtube, my attitude kasi when i was in the showband 1 year ago, lagi ako nagtatanong sa mga drummer na ka alternate namin, mas ok yung nagtatanong kaysa nagmamalaki. on my opinion lang po ah, walang pinakamagaling na drummer, lahat ng drummer may kanya kanyang galing at creativity. and lastly GOD gave me this talent, and i found freedom in jesus christ.. weird ba mga tsong? that's the truth, godbless......................
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: lovecore on November 09, 2007, 04:28:09 PM
It's nice to be self-taught. I myself started with it and lived through years of drumming just by learning on my own.
I'd suggest though to also take formal lessons.
after a decade of drumming, I felt that i hit a plateau and there are things I cannot learn on my own so I sought the help of sir Regalado and my drumming skills leaped and my understanding developed more. I'm not saying I'm a kick pwet drummer at this point. My point is, there were things in my playing that greatly improved because I never noticed I needed help in those areas before.
IMHO, we can only do and learn so much and we will all reach a level where only our minds can take us. having someone speak into your drumming mind is something one should definitely consider.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: drumster on November 09, 2007, 06:37:41 PM
I think both formal lessons and being self-taught are good. Whichever works best for us. And the most important thing is we are learning and improving and developing.
I am a self-taught drummer. Most of the things I know and can do right now were worked out by doing research, listening to plenty of music, watching drummers (whether live or on video), and reading a lot of Modern Drummer magazines. And I just have that kind of open-minded, positive attitude. I'm so passionate with drumming, I'm just determined to learn and get better.
It's also good to have lessons from a credible drum teacher. If not lessons, at least it's great to have a mentor. That mentor should be someone who can guide you to become a better drummer and musician. And he/she should be somebody whom you can easily approach and seek for advices in case you need any help.
In my case, I had lessons with Mar Dizon back in 2002. This was my very first series of drum lessons, after being self-taught since I first picked up a pair of sticks in 1992. I'm forever grateful with my sessions with Senyor Mar. He helped me clean up my playing and correct my bad habits. As a result, my groove has greatly improved.
I still look up to Mar. I am also grateful to great cats like Jun Relalado, his son Junjun Regalado, and Benjie "Bagets" Mendez, whom I all look up to as mentors and brothers in music and drumming. They have helped me in so many ways.
Any learning method can do. The most important thing is we're learning and we're making some progress. And we should never stop learning.
:-)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on November 09, 2007, 07:42:45 PM
Any learning method can do. The most important thing is we're learning and we're making some progress. And we should never stop learning.
:-)
Very very well said drumster!!! :lol:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: toybitz on November 11, 2007, 01:50:39 AM
OT
Mod...we started playing drums in the same year.
I was in my 3rd yr in LSGH.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: drumster on November 11, 2007, 01:56:41 AM
^ OT... Yup. And I was a high school freshman that year.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: drummerboy827 on November 11, 2007, 01:03:44 PM
Self-taught all the way.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: lil.drummerboy on January 19, 2008, 12:34:20 PM
self taught ako. tapos nag pa turo na din kung kani kanino. pero palpak tlga ako :lol:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: 9_spiral on January 19, 2008, 01:55:04 PM
self-taught din ako count me in.. :evil: accidental nga lang ang pagkatuto ko magdrums kasi that time kailangan talaga ng drummer sa school namin. All i know was the basic 4/4 signatures and simple effortless rudiments lang. Until I got serious with gears, and with some everyday practices, ayun, eto na ako ngayon hehe. But still if I have time, I would like to have formal lessons na rin (preferably on Sir JP :evil:)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: rockizta123 on January 19, 2008, 03:17:04 PM
self taught ako... and i still want to have a formal drum lesson... sumasablay pa rin ako... perfectionist kasi ako eh...
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: kyle travers on January 20, 2008, 02:36:58 AM
im a mix of both......but self taught is better...
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: harugrugrug on January 20, 2008, 11:04:22 PM
Formal lessons po ako... una napilitan pero nahanapan ng kiliti.. ayun.. naging teacher ko si Roy ng Mutiny na ngayon ay nakay Miguel Escueta na.. nakakabaliw kasi kaliwete siya at ako right handed so palipat lipat nake ng kit pag may dedemonstrate siya.. it's better to have formal lessons to learn notes and learn executions of rudiments.. basta good teacher dapat.. nagturo din ako at mahirap pala magturo.. pero nasa satin yan kung gusto natin matuto..
natuwa ako kay migs(intake).. former student ko.. he was first self taught tapos nag lesson ng formal.. una.. lagapak talaga.. from posture at ayaw matuto magbasa.. tinetenga niya ang turo ko.. so i urge you to "TAKE TIME READING AND UNDERSTANDING NOTES" kasi malaki benefit yan.. pag feel mo kaya mo na mag isa e books ang isang essential na makakatulong sayo..
sunod nung dumalaw si MIgz.. nagulat ako.. sobrang lake ng inimprove niya.. nagbabasa na ng notes at kung anu anu pa.. natuwa ako.. so nasa drummer talaga ang room ng development niya.. so just take formal lessons from a good teacher when you have a good ground.. you can study on your own.. ako.. gusto ko pa matuto..
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: nivek518 on May 07, 2008, 12:38:41 AM
self taught ako. pero gusto ko mglesson kasi marami pa kelangan iimprove sken at pra magabayan ako. :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: cavsdieagram on May 07, 2008, 12:43:54 AM
hehe nabuhay ulet yung thread!!!
Self-taught pa rin with matching sangkatutak na drum EB's... Marami kanang matututunan, marami kapang makikilalang drumming bros na mismo ang attitude... :-D Happy drumming
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Diadem on May 07, 2008, 01:29:35 AM
self taught is better here in baguio... :-)
masyado ng outdated mga instructors dito. they still cling to the mike portnoy era.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: rubb3rduck on May 07, 2008, 04:15:36 AM
I didn't have any formal instruction to start out drumming and I sure wish I had. Imho, drumming (as is music) should ideally be approached as a science then as an art. Science muna dapat to learn the fundamentals, that is, drum notation, rudiments, etc. Art comes eventually when you're already able to express yourself thru different styles and applications. Feeling ko mas solid ang application kapag solid ang foundation. Iba pa rin talaga kapag may formal training.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Tugpaktugpak on May 07, 2008, 10:04:57 AM
Pag sa mga Videos ba sa youtube na tuto ung drummer anu un??self taught o formal lessons??? kasi dun ako natututo ng mga basics, note reading, ung mga theory echuvacheness......tska konting advance lessons......anung category un mga sir??
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 07, 2008, 11:29:35 AM
Pag sa mga Videos ba sa youtube na tuto ung drummer anu un??self taught o formal lessons??? kasi dun ako natututo ng mga basics, note reading, ung mga theory echuvacheness......tska konting advance lessons......anung category un mga sir??
Self taught. :wink:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: stiknstone on May 07, 2008, 02:19:54 PM
I'll go for self taught..although my brother taught me some basic drumming.But i myself continue researching for drums lessons and rudiments to improve my drumming skills. :-)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: el Brutal on May 07, 2008, 03:11:08 PM
nagformal lessons fo a while... then naging bahala na si batman... i shifted learning from videos na lang.. walang gastos sa youtube eh.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: achaka on May 07, 2008, 11:05:26 PM
i had formal lessons when i was young, then natuto ng konti (mabilis natuto) tapos nagfeeling kaya hininto na yung lessons. nagdrums magisa, ginaya ang OPM bands like bamboo and hale.
nag-aral, naging busy, then naSTUCK na sa style, naging stagnant yung palo ko. ang pangit solid.
then nagkaron ng time, advice sakin ng kapatid kong sick dude sa gitara, mag cover kasi ka din ng foreign... so yun, sinunod ko. and nakatulong solid. SUPER i grew as a drummer on my own although i still honestly think that everybody needs formal lessons before learning by themselves.
like in kickboxing, we have to learn the basics first so that when we are going to teach ourselves, we sort of already have had developed our muscle memory.
so formal lessons then your on your own on how you are going to maiximize what you've learned during your formal lessons.
PS: please try to learn from different drummers of different genres.. trust me. it will help you THAT MUCH. swear.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: NATSBRATS on January 27, 2009, 01:54:21 PM
i was self taught :). and happy with it.. i think that self taught drummers are more versatile.. since they depend more on raw skill and practice more than notes and arent limited to several beats.. they learn from watching drummers and learn a lot from advice.. i dont have a drumset and ddnt take formal lessons.. sticks and pillows lang :))..
just stick and pillows.... how about your foot work? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: Darel on January 27, 2009, 05:35:36 PM
kung ilalagay sa percentage, 80%- self-taught 20%- formal.. sandali lang kasi akong nag aral sa teacher ko.. sariling sikap at tyaga na lang kasi mahal din yung paturo..
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: matt04 on January 28, 2009, 11:03:33 PM
Ako self taught. tinuruan lng ng sobrang basic na tug pak tug tug pak tapos ako na nag aral mag isa. Una shadow drumming lng hehehe wla pang kit eh. Tapos nung nag ka kit ayun dun na natuto pati sa mga vids sa youtube. PEro Gusto ko pa rin mag paturo sa mga pro para dag dag kaalaman. :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jcberedo on January 28, 2009, 11:12:18 PM
self taught. videos lang ang source ko ng education.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: IncX on January 29, 2009, 12:46:44 AM
i think formal lessons instructors are rip-off artists just because of the fact that in my experience, all of them charge BY THE HOUR...
i am not saying they are cheating on you or anything, but IMO, drumming is A LOT about muscle memory. say that beat in Rosanna, while your brain may get that concept of triplet shuffle, your muscle memory doesn't. so what you do is pressure your self to learn the songs at the normal tempo (which of course is fast for your virgin drum muscles), and you end up being a sloppy drummer.
same thing with double pedals... you know the bass drum goes dit-dah-dit-dah sixteen beat while you hit the snare on the 2 and 4 ... your brain knows that but your muscle memory would take weeks to adjust to that, and by that time, your instructor had robbed thousands of pesos off you from one BASIC concept that even your kapitbahay drummer knows about.
i am just so happy that nowadays there are drum forums and youtubes, and all of these "beginner" instructors arent ripping-off kids as much.
right now, im learning drums and loading muscle memory patterns in me. i watch a lot of youtube and pick up lots of gear advice from here (techniques are better seen than read)... and im not being ripped off.
ive been to different instructors both with bass and guitar, and i realized none of what they taught stuck.
after paying 3,000 pesos worth of bass lessons, i know how to do some parts of rio funk and slap a pattern in G. for 3,000 pesos, i can pay someone to record 5 slap patterns or well, id just buy two DVDs and just be sure i have a player that can slow mo it.
IMO, you should get instructors when your muscle memory is more than adequate to handle patterns at a snap. that is so you will be learning concepts, theories and opinions. if that instructor is good, he will transform the way you approach the instrument... if he is like one of those talented instructors who capitalize on their skill, you'd end up not learning anything and be left wondering "how did he do that?"
and id also appreciate it that an instructor knows [gooey brown stuff] about gear. with my bass experience, my instructor doesnt even know the pedals in my board, and couldnt even have basic conversation with me.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: mambo on January 29, 2009, 01:56:16 AM
ako self taught lang, wala pera pang formal since sariling gastos ko yung drums...
hirap din mag self taught dahil nga "you're on your own". sariling program ng pag-aaral din kailangan at mas mabagal ang headstart ng progress mo kesa sa may instructor.
pero its all good...."if you want it, you get it"
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: smutdrummer on February 01, 2009, 09:28:15 AM
self taught. but would it be better kung may ngturo sa atin from A to Z rather than go zigzag off no direction?
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: kimpoy19 on February 01, 2009, 12:20:26 PM
I always pray na magkakaroon ako ng formal lesson.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: mambo on February 01, 2009, 03:19:05 PM
^^^same here sigh*
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: gamusa on February 02, 2009, 09:55:45 AM
im a sef taught drummer din mga bro, big help talaga ang youtube and nag start uli ako sa basic exercise then intermediate and now im in advance lesson na. pero laking tulong din yung binigay ng brother ko na play drums today level 1 book, notation to nagtanong tanong lang ako sa mga marunong bumasa at ayun, nakakaintindi na rin dun ko rin natutunan ang syncopation, jazz, triplet blues at marami pang iba, gusto ko nga sana maka experience magturo eh ask ko lang kayo bro, pwede ba yun kahit wala ako certificate ng drum instructor?
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: niNgpo on February 05, 2009, 10:02:45 PM
i am gifted! my talent is a gift. The first time i held the sticks i played a groove already haha!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: metalmuhlisha on February 05, 2009, 11:18:49 PM
self taught. but would it be better kung may ngturo sa atin from A to Z rather than go zigzag off no direction?
yes. (for me at least. depende sa tao e. but having lessons made everything better for me. from note reading, to drumming vocabulary, to finding my own style/groove. but for some people, being self taught is the way to go. i say "whichever works for you, then great.")
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: black_panther on February 06, 2009, 09:09:08 PM
taking lessons from different drummers worked for me, i am proud student of sir jun regalado :wink:..this year my goal is to invest more on education :wink:....cheers also to antony dio of k/24/7 and loubert vidal of eternal now who were once my drum teacher :wink:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: tambolista on February 08, 2009, 11:27:45 AM
I'm also self taught drummer. I started to learn drums while I was in HS in Siena and until now self study lang but i'm also planning to enroll also with Sir. Jun or Mar maybe this year (if my schedule permits me).Having a teacher will help a lot specially if you want to learn other techniques dahil mga experienced na ang teacher. :D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: stryffe_20 on February 09, 2009, 04:45:42 AM
Self taught here.
Started playing drums at the age of 10 (grade 5) back in OLOPSC. I was just watching a close friend of mine play drums, and that's where my interest in drumming had started.
That friend of mine BTW is Michael Ambas current drummer of the band UNEVEN
Ever since that day until 2004 I have only learned the basics of drumming. Never knew exactly all those vocabulary and stuff like that. Until DT was introduced to me in 2002 and I took notice, but thought that DT was too hard and had studied at the time. Again around the end of 2004 - 2005 me and my former band GPA had decided to change musical styles, namely from alternative rock to metal to progressive metal. That's when my 4 year progression started. I was so interested in it I had already learned and seen some of the actual lessons I really needed.
I don't think I'll be needing formal lessons anyway since the key part that I'm only missing is reading the notes from all paper in actual notes. Just that. I can live without it. hehe.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jieboy on February 09, 2009, 07:41:50 AM
halos lhat yata ng pinoydrummer, self-taught ah... hehe self-taught rin kasi ako eh!! haha :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: lovecore on February 18, 2009, 01:06:39 AM
it won't hurt to get formal lessons cuz you can only learn so much on your own. just so you can be guided. I'm not a teacher or anything. I just learned a lot when I took supplemental lessons after more than a decade of drumming. it helped me develop my skill and playing more
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: reycantong on February 18, 2009, 03:06:43 AM
I'm self-taught during my entire elementary and high school days. When I went to college, I was accepted in the U.P. Conservatory (percussion major). This is where I learned all the theories etc.
Sadly, Di ko natapos, tinamad na because I was hooked up with computer music. Got some "rakets" involving computer music, gusto ko work na agad.
But 'til now, lahat ng napag aralan ko formally sa U.P. e nagagamit ko. I can sight-read music sheets, I can write music scores, chord progressions, inversions, andaming benefits. MAS MAGANDA KUNG MAY FORMAL LESSONS TALAGA.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: wilpredo on March 01, 2009, 11:16:01 PM
ako self-taught dahil napilitan ako haha pero maganda parin talaga kung may formal lessons, marami kasing advantages e yun lang hehehe
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: addbot02 on April 17, 2009, 07:36:24 AM
nag lesson ako once pro ngaun self taught nalang.. ayaw ko mag basa ng nota hahahah im more on visual :lol:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: digidikdik on May 08, 2009, 11:14:28 AM
Sariling sikap....Til now...Since elementary...Dont want to confuse myself with countings..ehehehe... :-)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: metalmuhlisha on May 09, 2009, 01:20:05 AM
just to share lang na tuto ako mag drums arround 1st year highschool 14yrsold, i started playing on snare and simple 8beats on drum set, self taught ako mga idol inspired by watching endless oldskul bands from beatles to lynard skynard, rock n roll to heavy metal etc. pero im not saying na magaling ako.
now im already 22yrs old minsan may drum sessions kami ng ibang drumer d2 samen an 18yr old drummer can kick my butt out of the drum set because of my own flaws. i cant make a good ghost notes. im poor at cymbal works.
but i can rate my self on the middle but not on the point that i know all.
im happy when im learning something new and thats a fulfilment. challenge kasi i need to learn it without anyones help, but may reference like youtube.
ive been into different band now already, lasting for months i personally leave because of personal work reasons but as they give out feedbacks out of my drum compositions their not super duper impress. but its just within what they need.
- learning is an never ending road as they say.
tagalog/filipino nalang plskthx.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: lance2dbeat on May 09, 2009, 06:28:46 AM
i am self taught but i am considering formal and informal lessons too :D it's so fun to share ideas with fellow drummers especially the open minded ones.. YUNG HINDI MADADAMOT at MGA TAKOT NA HIGITAN SILA NG MGA TINURUAN NILA.. lately naghahanap ako ng mga ka sharing o ka jam. text niyo ko 09154172079 kita tayo sa Ortigas! sharing tayo mga kapatid na drummers :D -Lance
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jcberedo on May 09, 2009, 11:24:08 AM
ah ok, im sorry im a taglish typer. because whenever im typing, im thinking like im doing a fast blast beats! hahaha.. nerd. ( me) sorry. peace.!
LOL
this made my day.
one aim of communication is to let others understand your thoughts as accurately as possible with your medium of choice. kaya kung hindi kayang mag-ingles, mag-tagalog nalang, para di magmukhang [chewbacca]. :) ipapabasa mo nalang opinyon mo sa iba, papahirapan mo pa. wag ka nalang mag-post kung ganun, diba?
(hindi taglish ang problema dito, kundi grammar at composition. pakintindi lang po.)
PS. nerd (u)? it's olrayt! (me) nerd too.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jcberedo on May 09, 2009, 07:26:52 PM
one aim of communication is to let others understand your thoughts as accurately as possible with your medium of choice. kaya kung hindi kayang mag-ingles, mag-tagalog nalang, para di magmukhang [chewbacca]. :) ipapabasa mo nalang opinyon mo sa iba, papahirapan mo pa. wag ka nalang mag-post kung ganun, diba?
(hindi taglish ang problema dito, kundi grammar at composition. pakintindi lang po.)
PS. nerd (u)? it's olrayt! (me) nerd too.
+ 1,000,000 hehehe LOL :lol:
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: kimpoy19 on May 10, 2009, 02:35:49 PM
dude, any known drummer na sa self-taught lang lumaki then they became famous in there skill/s?
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: empire1 on May 13, 2009, 06:42:03 AM
i know someone locally, my friend Paul (KnK) isang beses nung doon ako nag-almusal sa tapsihan nila, natanong ko lang bigla kung pano ba siya natuto mag-drums, it was all self-taught, practice lang ng practice, rudiments.. yun.
so anyway - ako rin self taught. back in 2005 nung student pa ako, instead of going to school, dun ako tumatambay sa studio ng friend ko, walang nagjajam masyado kaya sinamantala ko na mag-drums ng mag-drums hahaha. libre pa at laging may inuman. heheh! ayun! :-D
btw.. di na ako naka-graduate ng college dahil dun. hahaha. peace!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: popsicle on May 13, 2009, 01:34:31 PM
dude, any known drummer na sa self-taught lang lumaki then they became famous in there skill/s?
Dennis Chambers! damn! akalain mo un?! self-taught lang! nabasa ko sa drumchannel.com last night while watching some interviews of him by Terry Bozzio. check niyo dito sa part 2 ng interview http://www.drumchannel.com/entertainment/13006.aspx (http://www.drumchannel.com/entertainment/13006.aspx). mababasa niyo sa right part na nagfflash. "Although he had no formal training, Dennis is well-known among drummers for his impressive technique and speed, and he is particularly regarded for his ability to play "in the pocket." :-D
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Post by: empire1 on May 14, 2009, 08:56:02 AM
aww.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: keene on May 14, 2009, 06:45:12 PM
I'm self taught drummer pero naglesson pa rin ako kay JP kasi sa opinion ko, everybody needs a professional help para mas ma-improve ang skills natin, oo magaling tayo sa self-taught skills natin, pero hindi ba tayo mas gagaling kung may magtuturo sa atin????
agree ako bro. actually maganda yung self taught, kasi hindi mo alam kung kailan ka na ba marunong o magaling. you always try to discover something new :lol:
pero sa palagay ko Gusto ko pa magconservatory kasi syempre, along the way dun sa pagaaral mo, baka may technique or kung ano ka mang nakuha na maaaring harmful pala... at least macocorrect pa yun :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: plitipiw40315 on May 15, 2009, 07:18:15 PM
ako din self taught, actually nung binili ng tatay ko ung tambol eh hindi pa talaga ako marunong, as in zero knowledge sa drums, naaalala ko nun pati yung mounted toms eh baliktad pagkakaset up ko, at sobrang tunog lata lahat..bale inupuan ko lang sya tas hindi ko namalayan eh ngdrudrums na pala ako, until now hindi ko mafigure out kung panu ako natuto..hehe, baka kako late bloomer lang ung pagiging tambolista ko, 2nd yr. college na kasi ako natuto eh.. :-D
ngaun nagtuturo ako ng drums, drum tab gamit ko as introduction sa basic beat, para lang masanay pumalo yung bata (10yrs ol nag youngest na naturuan ko),..
pero gustong gusto ko din magtake ng formal lessons..wii
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: kevzkie024 on May 15, 2009, 09:28:58 PM
self taught drummer din ako! . gsto ko maglessons kaya lang alang pera. (student palang! haha.). pero masarap din naman ang self taught, explore different sounds in drums. besides, my drum videos nga naman. hehe.
kng formal lessons naman, willing din ako matuto. sana libre. whahaha. :-D
but all in all, self taught. express your feeling on drums, practice lang ng practice. datz it! \m/ :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jcberedo on May 16, 2009, 09:35:28 PM
ako din self taught, actually nung binili ng tatay ko ung tambol eh hindi pa talaga ako marunong, as in zero knowledge sa drums, naaalala ko nun pati yung mounted toms eh baliktad pagkakaset up ko, at sobrang tunog lata lahat..bale inupuan ko lang sya tas hindi ko namalayan eh ngdrudrums na pala ako, until now hindi ko mafigure out kung panu ako natuto..hehe, baka kako late bloomer lang ung pagiging tambolista ko, 2nd yr. college na kasi ako natuto eh.. :-D
ngaun nagtuturo ako ng drums, drum tab gamit ko as introduction sa basic beat, para lang masanay pumalo yung bata (10yrs ol nag youngest na naturuan ko),..
pero gustong gusto ko din magtake ng formal lessons..wii
Ayus ahh. Nagtuturo ka pala.. hehehe. Ako hirap ko turuan ang misis ko na laging sabay ang right hand sa hats at right foot sa kicks... LOL Yung anak ko naman 4 yrs old medyo natural kaso an lakas humataw! Makaka-butas ata yun ng Aquarian super-2.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: plitipiw40315 on May 16, 2009, 10:03:52 PM
hehe, merun akong 4 students ngaung summer ser, nakapagturo nadin ako ng 45 yrs. old, at doctor..hehehe..try mo tab ituro ser parang pang intro lang sa basic beat...ayus ung batang me interest, meron kasi akong student dati yung nanay ang interesado ung anak eh pilit..hehe
mejo hindi pantay pantay ser, sana magets mo..hehe,
-ang ginagawa ko eh HH muna down to BD,
-emphasize mo kung saang count ang strike ng bawat isa, for example ung snare eh sa counts 2 and 4 ang strike..
-(+ is read as "and") bala ang counting nyan ser eh 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and..
naglecture nako ser, ot na.. :-D **iba din kasi ang satisfaction na nararamdaman ko kapag ung isang bata o matanda na zero knowledge sa drumming eh pagkatapos palang ng 1hour eh may alam ng basic beat.. :-D
eto para hindi OT..hehe
-mas advisable mag formal drum lessons pagka me alam ka na sa drums mas tipid..di ka na dadaan sa beginner lessons..basa nalang ng nota aaralin mo.. :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jcberedo on May 16, 2009, 11:42:43 PM
hehe, merun akong 4 students ngaung summer ser, nakapagturo nadin ako ng 45 yrs. old, at doctor..hehehe..try mo tab ituro ser parang pang intro lang sa basic beat...ayus ung batang me interest, meron kasi akong student dati yung nanay ang interesado ung anak eh pilit..hehe
mejo hindi pantay pantay ser, sana magets mo..hehe,
-ang ginagawa ko eh HH muna down to BD,
-emphasize mo kung saang count ang strike ng bawat isa, for example ung snare eh sa counts 2 and 4 ang strike..
-(+ is read as "and") bala ang counting nyan ser eh 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and..
naglecture nako ser, ot na.. :-D **iba din kasi ang satisfaction na nararamdaman ko kapag ung isang bata o matanda na zero knowledge sa drumming eh pagkatapos palang ng 1hour eh may alam ng basic beat.. :-D
eto para hindi OT..hehe
-mas advisable mag formal drum lessons pagka me alam ka na sa drums mas tipid..di ka na dadaan sa beginner lessons..basa nalang ng nota aaralin mo.. :-D
uu alam ko din yang mga tabs kaso pag sobra mahaba na pati ako nahihilo na. hehehe.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: nymphetamine girl on May 18, 2009, 07:45:41 AM
guys im new here ... well since bata pako dream kona tlaga matuto mg drums pero wala hndi na pursue.. anyways... can you guys help me kung san mgsisimula.. wala akong drum set pero gsto ko tlaga matuto ,,,, tanx :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: nymphetamine girl on May 18, 2009, 07:51:20 AM
hehe, merun akong 4 students ngaung summer ser, nakapagturo nadin ako ng 45 yrs. old, at doctor..hehehe..try mo tab ituro ser parang pang intro lang sa basic beat...ayus ung batang me interest, meron kasi akong student dati yung nanay ang interesado ung anak eh pilit..hehe
mejo hindi pantay pantay ser, sana magets mo..hehe,
-ang ginagawa ko eh HH muna down to BD,
-emphasize mo kung saang count ang strike ng bawat isa, for example ung snare eh sa counts 2 and 4 ang strike..
-(+ is read as "and") bala ang counting nyan ser eh 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and..
naglecture nako ser, ot na.. :-D **iba din kasi ang satisfaction na nararamdaman ko kapag ung isang bata o matanda na zero knowledge sa drumming eh pagkatapos palang ng 1hour eh may alam ng basic beat.. :-D
eto para hindi OT..hehe
-mas advisable mag formal drum lessons pagka me alam ka na sa drums mas tipid..di ka na dadaan sa beginner lessons..basa nalang ng nota aaralin mo.. :-D
san kba ngtuturo??
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: plitipiw40315 on May 18, 2009, 11:11:20 AM
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Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: kibohead on May 19, 2009, 11:38:09 PM
Self taught din ako mga brader. wala kasi akong pera pang formal lesson. kung may libre sana jan... :lol: haha! madami kasi talagang advantages pag may drum teacher ka, one thing dun, mas direct ang learning mo...meaning, tanong-sagot agad...isa pa dun, complicated grooves can be easier to understand kasi kaya break down yun ng teacher mo sayo na hindi ka mababaliw ng husto at napakadami pang iba. :-)
pero syempre parang give and take yan...nasa absorption din siguro yan ng student at nasa pag simplify ng teacher mo. Maganda din naman maging self taught basta ikaw mismo, you give time on your drumming at open minded ka din. Take time on listening to different genres, other drummers at syempre, dapat ikaw din mismo, naghahanap ng concepts at gumagawa ng theories of your own to make your drumming much enjoyable and easier. Wala naman tama at mali sa drumming hangga't ikaw mismo ang nagsabi na sa sarili mo na mali yung ginagawa mo. It really doesn't matter how you start, what matters most is how you end. :-)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: nymphetamine girl on May 21, 2009, 03:36:15 AM
san bako pwedeng mgenroll yung mura lng... ??? gsto ko tlga matuto
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: lil.drummerboy on May 21, 2009, 03:45:30 AM
Self taught din ako mga brader. wala kasi akong pera pang formal lesson. kung may libre sana jan... :lol: haha! madami kasi talagang advantages pag may drum teacher ka, one thing dun, mas direct ang learning mo...meaning, tanong-sagot agad...isa pa dun, complicated grooves can be easier to understand kasi kaya break down yun ng teacher mo sayo na hindi ka mababaliw ng husto at napakadami pang iba. :-)
pero syempre parang give and take yan...nasa absorption din siguro yan ng student at nasa pag simplify ng teacher mo. Maganda din naman maging self taught basta ikaw mismo, you give time on your drumming at open minded ka din. Take time on listening to different genres, other drummers at syempre, dapat ikaw din mismo, naghahanap ng concepts at gumagawa ng theories of your own to make your drumming much enjoyable and easier. Wala naman tama at mali sa drumming hangga't ikaw mismo ang nagsabi na sa sarili mo na mali yung ginagawa mo. It really doesn't matter how you start, what matters most is how you end. :-)
hanep talaga si master jack!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jcberedo on May 21, 2009, 08:08:53 AM
Self taught din ako mga brader. wala kasi akong pera pang formal lesson. kung may libre sana jan... :lol: haha! madami kasi talagang advantages pag may drum teacher ka, one thing dun, mas direct ang learning mo...meaning, tanong-sagot agad...isa pa dun, complicated grooves can be easier to understand kasi kaya break down yun ng teacher mo sayo na hindi ka mababaliw ng husto at napakadami pang iba. :-)
pero syempre parang give and take yan...nasa absorption din siguro yan ng student at nasa pag simplify ng teacher mo. Maganda din naman maging self taught basta ikaw mismo, you give time on your drumming at open minded ka din. Take time on listening to different genres, other drummers at syempre, dapat ikaw din mismo, naghahanap ng concepts at gumagawa ng theories of your own to make your drumming much enjoyable and easier. Wala naman tama at mali sa drumming hangga't ikaw mismo ang nagsabi na sa sarili mo na mali yung ginagawa mo. It really doesn't matter how you start, what matters most is how you end. :-)
Amen... :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: stickdrums on June 26, 2009, 12:04:06 AM
i think learning basics are always good. better siguro pagself taught pero lessons on basics since you can be guided properly. i think it's better to start playing by yourself after basics so you get to find your own style or sound. :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: NiardicA on June 26, 2009, 09:07:43 AM
self thought:
nood lang sa fellow drummers, watch alot of live bands, watched alot of Metallica VHS tapes noon (lars ulrich styled eh) watched Guns N'Roses live videos (Matt Sorum din) WTF pati Bon Jovi (Ticco Torres) walang pambili ng drum pad so sa unan tumatambol.....
... nung high school iniyakan si tita para bilan ng drum kit (hehehe Blue Fernando kit)
habang nasa date with the GF tapping at stomping habang sinasabayan ang sounds sa jeep... hehehehe
until now ganun parin (recently na influence ako gumamit ng Double pedal... mas comfortable ako sa single peds, yet ang saya pala ng double ped)
hay naku...... dami magagaling na drummers out there
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: sevenzero on June 26, 2009, 07:22:12 PM
woah! daming self taught na drummers ah :D i guess mostly ng andito is self taught talaga. i started out sa church namin dati, basics lang turo skin, quarter, 8th and 16th notes lang tinuro sakin noon, nung college days na lang ako nagkaroon ng urge para magaral pa kasi uso banda sa college dati hehehe! "Kapa" pa ang term ngaun Cipra or Cifra na hehehe. ngayon sa church na ko, slight full-time :D learning now na gumamit ng metronome and sequences habang pumapalo... and still on self-learning although i consider our pastor and music director as my mentors... sa church lang ako nakakahawak ng kit tuwing saturday practices, youth service at sunday services... madalas shadow drumming lang ginagawa ko at sa practice pad at immersion sa mga kantang cinicipra... pano kya yung formal lessons? hehehe sabik eh no? Toinks!!!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: sevenzero on June 26, 2009, 07:36:43 PM
hehe, merun akong 4 students ngaung summer ser, nakapagturo nadin ako ng 45 yrs. old, at doctor..hehehe..try mo tab ituro ser parang pang intro lang sa basic beat...ayus ung batang me interest, meron kasi akong student dati yung nanay ang interesado ung anak eh pilit..hehe
mejo hindi pantay pantay ser, sana magets mo..hehe,
-ang ginagawa ko eh HH muna down to BD,
-emphasize mo kung saang count ang strike ng bawat isa, for example ung snare eh sa counts 2 and 4 ang strike..
-(+ is read as "and") bala ang counting nyan ser eh 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and..
naglecture nako ser, ot na.. :-D **iba din kasi ang satisfaction na nararamdaman ko kapag ung isang bata o matanda na zero knowledge sa drumming eh pagkatapos palang ng 1hour eh may alam ng basic beat.. :-D
eto para hindi OT..hehe
-mas advisable mag formal drum lessons pagka me alam ka na sa drums mas tipid..di ka na dadaan sa beginner lessons..basa nalang ng nota aaralin mo.. :-D
hehe sa ganitong paraan ako tinuruan.. na papagmix ko pa nga yung placing bass at snare at tumitigil din yung hats ko XD
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: arien_drummer on June 26, 2009, 09:10:21 PM
nung mga 3 to 7 years old, self taught. mga 8 to mga 12, nagpaturo na ako kay Mr. Jun Reagalado... The best teacher ever. hehehe. ayun...
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Post by: cRUiZ3rBOI on June 28, 2009, 04:01:22 AM
I'm still at the self study category. Wala kasi time for formal lessons pero I am willing to undergo training, pero not at the moment due to time and financial constraints :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Post by: jaeidn on June 29, 2009, 12:02:07 AM
hello, ako i'm a self-taught drummer din like most of you. i started to play drums when i was 8 and now i'm 23, for almost 15 years i never had a formal lesson. when it comes to note reading i can read a little and i learned it online. most of us if not all we had music class back in grade school about musical notation, right? okay lang sa akin kahit di ako ngtake ng formal lessons in the past. experience is one of the best if not the best teacher... we just have to constantly learn and learn and learn with or without a teacher. keep on aiming to be the best that you can be...!!!
god bless us all...
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jaeidn on June 29, 2009, 12:12:55 AM
nung mga 3 to 7 years old, self taught. mga 8 to mga 12, nagpaturo na ako kay Mr. Jun Reagalado... The best teacher ever. hehehe. ayun...
kay Sir Jun ka pala Arien, kaya ka pala magaling.:)
god bless...
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: dasplinter on June 29, 2009, 11:22:07 PM
gusto ko talga mag formal lessons.. dahil pangarap ko talaga maging pro na drummer.. :-D ee.. yun nga lang.. unfortunately, hindi ako binigyan ng chance to pursue Conservatory in college. :cry: i didn't had the money plus the vote of my not-so-supportive parents.. :-(
so eto.. banda-banda na lang.. xD
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: casper888 on June 30, 2009, 07:26:52 PM
i had formal lessons before sa yamaha basic note reading, pero during that time mga 1990 ang teacher ko di tinuro ang proper way of holding the sticks, heel up or heel down sa bass drum d ko lang sure ngayon kung ganun ang turo sa yamaha school of music
ngayon plano ko maging self taught based sa mga drum instructional videos wala akong kit just a practice pad and 2 pairs of drumsticks havent played for 15 years at plano kong magbuo ng banda nag lagay na ako ng LF for musicians who are interested in jazz funk genre kind of music
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Post by: mystic_riddim on July 08, 2009, 04:01:30 AM
I don't have anything against being self taught or having lessons. But in my own opinion, drumming and like any other instrument is a language. We learn basic words from the people around us when we were small. Just like you learn a simple lick, a basic groove or fill by hearing other drummers play. We start out by way of emulation, or by copying what we hear. The collection of what we had aquired through years of listening, emulating (through disciplined practice) makes our drumming vocabulary. It pays to have a good teacher to teach you proper technique and discipline. Again, ( I'm using speech as an analogy), we learn to speak before we go to school. But it is in school that they teach us to harness our ability and be fluent in the skill. Just like in drumming, a good teacher guides you in the right and proper execution of playing the instrument. To be a good drummer. Drumming is not just a technical display of dexterity, prowess and barrage of chops. It is about TIME KEEPING, TONE, GOOD TECHNIQUE, AND OFCOURSE THE GROOVE. Now if you have a high level of awareness starting out studying on your own, you won't need a good teacher to guide you. Maybe unless you are what they call the 'kung-fu genius' of drumming, that's one in a million.
There are things that we learn outside of school and things that we learn inside. A combination of the two would be best. A good suggestion for drummers starting out would be to: 1- startout studying on your own. Its more convinient to take lessons from a teacher later on once you know the basics. Meetings would be progressive. 2-Get your hands on cd's of the great drummers that you want. 3-Watch videos of the great drummers that you want. 4-Watch drummers live when you have the chance. 5-Try to emulate what you hear from cd's, watch from videos, andwatch from live performances. This is what you call your formative years. 6- PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE. You'll be surprised of new great things that you would learn and discover each time you spend with your instrument.pRACTICE IN FRONT OF A MIRROR IF YOU CAN, THIS WOULD HELP YOU WITH YOUR FORM. Practice with and without a metronome or any time keeping device. 7-Play along cd's of your fav bands. Play different styles of music as much as possible 8-Get a good teacher to guide and teach you to the rudiments and good techniques of execution, and to monitor your tone or unique sound. Ofcourse to teach you to read music. Yeah it's kinda boring for starters, but this helps you a lot in precisely analysing licks and stuff. Helps you getgood session work too :-D 9-Try to incorporate everything in your own playing style. I believe what we should strive for is to develop our own unique voice to the instrument. Playing the instrument is saying who we are, our personality, our individual uniqueness in playing the drums.. Imagine how boring the world of drumming would be if every drummer sounded alike. 10-join drum communities, or build camaradery among other drummers. Or better build drum gatherrings. You could learn from each other. More heads are better than one. :-D
I hope what i've written helps. 'Cuse the typO's
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jazon31 on November 02, 2009, 07:31:13 PM
self-taught ako
pero di pa rin
ako kuntento
gusto ko nga den mag lessons e :-(
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Post by: grandmasternio8 on November 02, 2009, 08:16:00 PM
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Post by: mahikawon666 on November 03, 2009, 08:02:11 AM
sakin both formal lessons and selft thought....it really helps :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
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Post by: telramvuli on November 03, 2009, 01:40:11 PM
self taught! gusto ko magformal lessons din but walang budget eh. :-D
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Post by: pauldavid_7 on November 03, 2009, 05:31:45 PM
Had 12 sessions of formal lessons when i was 10.. di ko sinusundan yung mga binibigay.. mas gusto ko magisa dahil malawak ang matutunan mo :-D pero masaya ako ang i love it.. self taught
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Post by: paeng16 on November 04, 2009, 10:01:45 AM
ako self study lang sa Drums... pero iba parin talaga yung may formal study... as long as hindi lang sa mga BANO na school like JIHAD... kung ganun din kasi... eh mag self study nalang talaga ako :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: drumachine on November 04, 2009, 10:09:51 AM
Had 12 sessions of formal lessons when i was 10.. di ko sinusundan yung mga binibigay.. mas gusto ko magisa dahil malawak ang matutunan mo :-D pero masaya ako ang i love it.. self taught
sayang naman yung lessons bro? mas malaking tulong yun sa pagddrums.
ako self study lang sa Drums... pero iba parin talaga yung may formal study... as long as hindi lang sa mga BANO na school like JIHAD... kung ganun din kasi... eh mag self study nalang talaga ako :-D
pano naman naging bano ang JIHAD?
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: peeves24 on November 04, 2009, 10:26:08 AM
awright! here we go...again
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Post by: drumachine on November 04, 2009, 10:28:08 AM
uhm. sige na nga. ignore na lang natin.
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Post by: paeng16 on November 04, 2009, 10:59:38 AM
Dude... sorry for the flame sa Jihad pero kanya kanyang preference lang yan... Check mo link na to...
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Post by: yoshie12321 on November 07, 2009, 11:11:56 AM
ako self taught... wala akong pambayad sa tutor eh... :lol: :lol: :lol: but im happy with it...
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jzaina16 on November 09, 2009, 01:28:47 AM
especially when i was just starting, i was self taught, i have been playing the drums for over 8 years now, then lately i started considering drum lessons, but the only free drum lessons that i found were on youtube by mike johnston. tas limted pa!
do you think guys that he's a good source of drum lessons? or do you have any recommendations?
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: spongklong on November 09, 2009, 09:28:41 AM
especially when i was just starting, i was self taught, i have been playing the drums for over 8 years now, then lately i started considering drum lessons, but the only free drum lessons that i found were on youtube by mike johnston. tas limted pa!
do you think guys that he's a good source of drum lessons? or do you have any recommendations?
i'm a subscriber of mike johnston as well, he's good pero for my level of drumming eh medyo nahihirapan akong sundan. aside from that, to access his lesson eh kelangan magbayad. some other sites that im using in learning are freedrumlessons.com & onlinedrummer.com which i find very useful for me. :-D
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: otepandrew on November 09, 2009, 09:49:47 AM
natuto lang din po kasi ako sa panunuod sa drummer ng church namin tapos nung practice nila e wala pa ung drummer trny kong umupo sa drums tapos pumalo ako ganon lang then ung the rest self study na talaga natutuo din ako kakanood ng mga drum cover sa youtube
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Post by: cheezemonster08 on November 10, 2009, 07:55:41 PM
self-taught ako ehh.sariling sikap :-D
nagsimula nung highschool(usually dun talaga :-D) sa tsudio sa likod ng school namen. tinuruan ako ng kaibigan ko nun(idol ko siya dati kais super noob ako sa drums) for about a year.
:-)
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Post by: kino on November 10, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
nagsimula nung highschool(usually dun talaga :-D) sa tsudio sa likod ng school namen. tinuruan ako ng kaibigan ko nun(idol ko siya dati kais super noob ako sa drums) for about a year.
:-)
ako natuto sa kakapanuod ng video ni papa kibohead (habang naka posas ung left hand).... hahaha
self taught din ako with some informal lessons. :-D
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Post by: otepandrew on November 11, 2009, 04:29:55 AM
di ain kasi ako marunong ng formal lesson eh di ko alam kung papano gagawin o kung ano papraktisin
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: unnailed on November 15, 2009, 12:51:52 PM
I'm self taught drummer pero naglesson pa rin ako kay JP kasi sa opinion ko, everybody needs a professional help para mas ma-improve ang skills natin, oo magaling tayo sa self-taught skills natin, pero hindi ba tayo mas gagaling kung may magtuturo sa atin????
i agree! :)
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: jhayphay on November 16, 2009, 04:29:13 AM
I think both formal lessons and being self-taught are good. Whichever works best for us. And the most important thing is we are learning and improving and developing.
I am a self-taught drummer. Most of the things I know and can do right now were worked out by doing research, listening to plenty of music, watching drummers (whether live or on video), and reading a lot of Modern Drummer magazines. And I just have that kind of open-minded, positive attitude. I'm so passionate with drumming, I'm just determined to learn and get better.
It's also good to have lessons from a credible drum teacher. If not lessons, at least it's great to have a mentor. That mentor should be someone who can guide you to become a better drummer and musician. And he/she should be somebody whom you can easily approach and seek for advices in case you need any help.
In my case, I had lessons with Mar Dizon back in 2002. This was my very first series of drum lessons, after being self-taught since I first picked up a pair of sticks in 1992. I'm forever grateful with my sessions with Senyor Mar. He helped me clean up my playing and correct my bad habits. As a result, my groove has greatly improved.
I still look up to Mar. I am also grateful to great cats like Jun Relalado, his son Junjun Regalado, and Benjie "Bagets" Mendez, whom I all look up to as mentors and brothers in music and drumming. They have helped me in so many ways.
Any learning method can do. The most important thing is we're learning and we're making some progress. And we should never stop learning.
:-)
very well said!
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: otepandrew on November 16, 2009, 07:53:12 AM
hindi noh pag sinabing aral ung maraming nagagawa sa pagtugtog dahil sa mga natutunan sa napagaralan eh ako di naman eh
ayus 'to ah. pero aral ka nga. di mo palang naeexplore san ilalagay napagaralan mo sa totoong tugtugan/composition
parang sa pagaaral ng math or kung anumang subject sa school. aral ka pero minsan di mo man alam san gagamitin yung nalalaman mo sa totoong buhay or trabaho. pero aral ka pa din.
Title: Re: Formal lessons/Self taught?
Post by: unnailed on November 16, 2009, 06:01:47 PM