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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #875 on: July 01, 2015, 08:18:40 AM »
Wala rin akong decent monitors haha at nag mimix lang ako sa cheap philips headphones. Sobrang pangit ng quality ng mga recordings ko haha nakakainis. Kailangan ko talaga siguro mag-aral pa ng mixing at recording techniques.

Bro pano ka pala nagdadag ng piano track sa No Name mo? Interested din akong magdagdag ng mga unplugged instruments such as pianos, guitar and drums kaso wala akong alam sa MIDI at wala akong MIDI controller.

kaya pangit yung mix mo dahil pangit yung gamit mo na pang monitor. the golden rule sa mixing is (well, this is the inverse of the rule basta) pag nagmix ka sa pangit, dun lang sya magtutunog maganda, tapos pangit na sa iba. the best monitors will have better frequency response na pag ok dun ang mix mo, maganda ang translation kahit sa mga pangit na speakers/cans. sa recording lang yata nag-aapply yung rule na gear first before technique. pag ang amateur at pro pinagamit mo ng magandang gear, yung amateur magtutunog decent yan, pero pag pinagamit mo sila pareho ng jebs na gear, pareho silang hirap.

inimbitahan nya si Len Calvo para mag keys  :lol: MIDI controller at plugin yan. pwede ka naman maglagay ng drums via MIDI without a controller, pero di mo na magagawa yung piano parts unless super tiyaga mo, or mga synth lead lines lang na simple. if you're gonna do a cover, pwede ka kkumuha ng midi file sa internet tapos salpak mo sa DAW
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #876 on: July 01, 2015, 03:04:37 PM »
Wala rin akong decent monitors haha at nag mimix lang ako sa cheap philips headphones. Sobrang pangit ng quality ng mga recordings ko haha nakakainis. Kailangan ko talaga siguro mag-aral pa ng mixing at recording techniques.

Bro pano ka pala nagdadag ng piano track sa No Name mo? Interested din akong magdagdag ng mga unplugged instruments such as pianos, guitar and drums kaso wala akong alam sa MIDI at wala akong MIDI controller.


invest ka muna sa flat monitors kahit mura. parang sennheiser HD201. pwede n. ang philips kasi ma-bass. so, mejo hindi transparent ang mixing mo.

importante ang mic techniques lalo na sa gitara at boses.


yung No Name, pinagrecord ko ng Midi File yung keyboardist namin, sinend niya sakin ang MIDI file, tapos pinlot ko sa DAW ko through my VSTi (2 layers, EZ Keys, tska Native Intruments Komplete Free; para lang mag tunog natural at multi miced)


maganda rin mag aral ng midi. yung gravity ko, may subtle keyboard track yan. keyboard na nakapad/reverb parang nageease in na chords. ako na yung bumanat jan. chords lang eh. hahaha
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #877 on: July 01, 2015, 03:24:15 PM »

invest ka muna sa flat monitors kahit mura. parang sennheiser HD201. pwede n. ang philips kasi ma-bass. so, mejo hindi transparent ang mixing mo.

importante ang mic techniques lalo na sa gitara at boses.


yung No Name, pinagrecord ko ng Midi File yung keyboardist namin, sinend niya sakin ang MIDI file, tapos pinlot ko sa DAW ko through my VSTi (2 layers, EZ Keys, tska Native Intruments Komplete Free; para lang mag tunog natural at multi miced)


maganda rin mag aral ng midi. yung gravity ko, may subtle keyboard track yan. keyboard na nakapad/reverb parang nageease in na chords. ako na yung bumanat jan. chords lang eh. hahaha

I can vouch for the Sennheiser HD201. I mixed most of my stuff there, before the Grado came in. Para sakin, super minimum na yung Apple earpods kung makakahiram ka.

In addition sa mic placement for vocals, importante din yung choice of mic, may mga taong tulad ko na inaayawan ng condenser  :lol:
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« Reply #878 on: July 01, 2015, 09:03:03 PM »
I can vouch for the Sennheiser HD201. I mixed most of my stuff there, before the Grado came in. Para sakin, super minimum na yung Apple earpods kung makakahiram ka.

In addition sa mic placement for vocals, importante din yung choice of mic, may mga taong tulad ko na inaayawan ng condenser  :lol:
Interesting yung Sennheiser HD201.. magkano at saan nakakabili? Hahaha, panahon na siguro para mag upgrade ako ng konti para sa home recording setup ko. Malaking difference ba ang makukuha ko pag nag palit ako ng microphone from Samson C01 to Audio Technica AT2020?
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« Reply #879 on: July 02, 2015, 08:10:31 AM »
Interesting yung Sennheiser HD201.. magkano at saan nakakabili? Hahaha, panahon na siguro para mag upgrade ako ng konti para sa home recording setup ko. Malaking difference ba ang makukuha ko pag nag palit ako ng microphone from Samson C01 to Audio Technica AT2020?

halos kahit saang retailer (dept store, v mall, apple store)  na nagbebenta ng sennheiser meron nyan, pero syempre suki ako ng Egghead sa galleria so try mo dun  :) mura lang, ung binili ko sya six years ago mga 1.2k lang, mas mura pa sa earphones ng apple.

No, hindi malaki yung difference, pero malaki yung impact, the same way yung 0.1dB na change mo sa isang EQ band ay subtle pero malaki ang effect. Get the cans first, and if you're gonna upgrade your Samson C01, upgrade ka na sa next level ng mic
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #880 on: July 02, 2015, 12:44:26 PM »
Interesting yung Sennheiser HD201.. magkano at saan nakakabili? Hahaha, panahon na siguro para mag upgrade ako ng konti para sa home recording setup ko. Malaking difference ba ang makukuha ko pag nag palit ako ng microphone from Samson C01 to Audio Technica AT2020?

di hamak na malaki ang difference, quality wise, pero IMHO, unahin mo yung headphones dahil kahit naka AT2020 ka, pero di mo naririnig ng maayos yung minimix mo, wala ring saysay yung upgrade mo.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #881 on: July 02, 2015, 12:53:08 PM »
halos kahit saang retailer (dept store, v mall, apple store)  na nagbebenta ng sennheiser meron nyan, pero syempre suki ako ng Egghead sa galleria so try mo dun  :) mura lang, ung binili ko sya six years ago mga 1.2k lang, mas mura pa sa earphones ng apple.

No, hindi malaki yung difference, pero malaki yung impact, the same way yung 0.1dB na change mo sa isang EQ band ay subtle pero malaki ang effect. Get the cans first, and if you're gonna upgrade your Samson C01, upgrade ka na sa next level ng mic
Salamat bro. Try ko maghanap sa alabang town center next week :)

E kung audio interface ang iupgrade? From xenyx 802 to scarlett 2i2? Malaki ba difference? Haha
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« Reply #882 on: July 02, 2015, 12:55:18 PM »
di hamak na malaki ang difference, quality wise, pero IMHO, unahin mo yung headphones dahil kahit naka AT2020 ka, pero di mo naririnig ng maayos yung minimix mo, wala ring saysay yung upgrade mo.
Osige bro, baka kumuha ako next week kung makakahanap ako sa ATC haha.
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« Reply #883 on: July 02, 2015, 01:00:44 PM »
Salamat bro. Try ko maghanap sa alabang town center next week :)

E kung audio interface ang iupgrade? From xenyx 802 to scarlett 2i2? Malaki ba difference? Haha

Malaki difference nyan  :lol: pero for the money sa M-Track na lang ako may MIDI I/O yun eh  tapos 5k++ lang :wink: di ko lang alam kung maganda yung preamp ng Scarlett but I think it's not gonna matter unless talagang hindi na demo/indie releaseangpinaguusapan.
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« Reply #884 on: July 02, 2015, 01:04:25 PM »
Malaki difference nyan  :lol: pero for the money sa M-Track na lang ako may MIDI I/O yun eh  tapos 5k++ lang :wink: di ko lang alam kung maganda yung preamp ng Scarlett but I think it's not gonna matter unless talagang hindi na demo/indie releaseangpinaguusapan.
Haha sikat ata sa scarlett 2i2 yung preamps nya eh, maganda daw preamps ng scarlett. Haha anong model ng M-Track? Isang model lang na yun? Haha balak ko kasi mag record ng high quality demos/recordings para sa mga acoustic original songs ko :)
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« Reply #885 on: July 02, 2015, 01:47:36 PM »
Haha sikat ata sa scarlett 2i2 yung preamps nya eh, maganda daw preamps ng scarlett. Haha anong model ng M-Track? Isang model lang na yun? Haha balak ko kasi mag record ng high quality demos/recordings para sa mga acoustic original songs ko :)

M-Audio M-Track, yung ordinary version. yung Pro version kasi mas mahal pero may kasamang ProTools SE lang.

with regard to the preamp, sabihin natin na yung mga preamp sa affordable USB interface market segment parang iodized salt yan. yung Xenyx mo parang rock salt sa palengke. Yung mga branded interface iodized salt: yung M-Track Fidel yung brand, yung Scarlett naman McCormick. Technically, mas maganda yung quality ng McCormick na iodized salt, pero in the end nasa quality na ng bulalo, mais, pechay (mic, recording technique, mixing technique) magkakatalo  :) so in terms of pagiging sulit lang, sa M-Track ako.
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #886 on: July 02, 2015, 03:06:13 PM »
M-Audio M-Track, yung ordinary version. yung Pro version kasi mas mahal pero may kasamang ProTools SE lang.

with regard to the preamp, sabihin natin na yung mga preamp sa affordable USB interface market segment parang iodized salt yan. yung Xenyx mo parang rock salt sa palengke. Yung mga branded interface iodized salt: yung M-Track Fidel yung brand, yung Scarlett naman McCormick. Technically, mas maganda yung quality ng McCormick na iodized salt, pero in the end nasa quality na ng bulalo, mais, pechay (mic, recording technique, mixing technique) magkakatalo  :) so in terms of pagiging sulit lang, sa M-Track ako.


I'd get the M-track. the preamps do not differ much on that level. also, mas friendly si Mtrack kasi mas spacious ang layout nung interface as compared to the scarlett.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #887 on: July 02, 2015, 04:43:26 PM »
Magkano kaya brand new ng m track? Haha try ko kumuha ng sennheiser hd201 and m-track next week kung magkakapera :))

Post nalang ako next time ng mga recordings ko tapos hingi ako sainyo ng advice about mixing and mastering :D
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« Reply #888 on: July 02, 2015, 04:47:14 PM »
Iba ba yung m-audio m-track sa m-audio fast track? Haha nalilito ako
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« Reply #889 on: July 02, 2015, 04:54:27 PM »
Magkano kaya brand new ng m track? Haha try ko kumuha ng sennheiser hd201 and m-track next week kung magkakapera :))

Post nalang ako next time ng mga recordings ko tapos hingi ako sainyo ng advice about mixing and mastering :D

Ang M-Track kuha ko mga 5k plus. Iba yung Fast Track, mas bagong model yun, tsaka overpriced dahil sa ProTools tieup. Google mo may image yan para di ka malito. (note mo may M-Track lang tapos may M-Track pro, magkaiba din yun). Sa JB meron nyan.
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« Reply #890 on: July 31, 2015, 11:47:30 PM »
Di ko magets yung Addictive Drums 2 hahahaha gusto ko lang naman kumuha ng presets para sa compo ko pero di ko magawa. Sobrang naguguluhan ako. Hahaha gusto ko rin sana iconnect siya sa reaper kaso di ako marunong. Patulong naman  :cry:
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« Reply #891 on: August 01, 2015, 09:09:17 AM »
Di ko magets yung Addictive Drums 2 hahahaha gusto ko lang naman kumuha ng presets para sa compo ko pero di ko magawa. Sobrang naguguluhan ako. Hahaha gusto ko rin sana iconnect siya sa reaper kaso di ako marunong. Patulong naman  :cry:

Insert VSTi from Reaper.  Sa effects button.

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« Reply #892 on: August 01, 2015, 01:26:30 PM »
Insert VSTi from Reaper.  Sa effects button.
Yup nagawa ko na siya pero hindi ko na magets kung pano gagawin sunod about sa presets hahaha sobrang noob ko sa ganto
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« Reply #893 on: August 01, 2015, 02:18:42 PM »
Insert midi track then set mo as FX ang AD2. Open AD2, select the BEATS tab. Browse through all the presets there. Drag and drop mo sa midi track. You can edit that by double-clicking. Edit to taste mo na lang.
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« Reply #894 on: August 01, 2015, 04:08:36 PM »
Insert midi track then set mo as FX ang AD2. Open AD2, select the BEATS tab. Browse through all the presets there. Drag and drop mo sa midi track. You can edit that by double-clicking. Edit to taste mo na lang.
I'll try that sir. Pero pag nilalagay ko yung AD2 sa reaper gumagawa siya ng maraming tracks. Ganun ba talaga yun? :)
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« Reply #895 on: August 01, 2015, 08:52:28 PM »
By default, isesetup ni AD2 na nakamulti track sya. You can disable that when opening AD2 in Reaper para single track lang.
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« Reply #896 on: August 24, 2015, 07:20:15 PM »
Ano mga magagandang condenser microphone na nasa 5k-7k ang price range? Ngayon kasi leaning na ako sa AT2020. Yun na ba yung pinaka bang for the buck na condenser sa ganitong price range or may iba pang options?  :)
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« Reply #897 on: August 25, 2015, 09:07:50 AM »
Ano mga magagandang condenser microphone na nasa 5k-7k ang price range? Ngayon kasi leaning na ako sa AT2020. Yun na ba yung pinaka bang for the buck na condenser sa ganitong price range or may iba pang options?  :)

Yan na yun  :lol: may iba pang options, pero yan na yung pinaka maganda ang response for general use.
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Re: What do you want to learn about recording?
« Reply #898 on: August 25, 2015, 10:50:23 AM »
Ano mga magagandang condenser microphone na nasa 5k-7k ang price range? Ngayon kasi leaning na ako sa AT2020. Yun na ba yung pinaka bang for the buck na condenser sa ganitong price range or may iba pang options?  :)

wala ka nang makukuhang ganung quality at that price. pag nilet go mo pa yung sale ni JB, baka mas mahal mo pa makuha sige ka.
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« Reply #899 on: August 25, 2015, 10:52:52 AM »
wala ka nang makukuhang ganung quality at that price. pag nilet go mo pa yung sale ni JB, baka mas mahal mo pa makuha sige ka.

tama sya dyan, ang mahal nyan pag list price <_<
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