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Offline digitalcyco

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2009, 11:18:53 AM »
easy lang ako hehe.. :D.. anyways cge babanggitin ko rin na may amp ako, my amp is Peavey Bandit 112, and my guitar is Fender Squier.. yan ah easy lang ako ah :D

but understood na rin ung topic ko diba? mangogoleckta ka ba pedals if you dont have a guitar and guitar amp?..
tsaka I dont care if I have a crappy guitar and crappy guitar amp, Im just asking for what type of pedals should I buy first..

anyways,, sana ang nxt reply e related sa thread topic ko... ;)

peace tayo mga masters! :)

We're not talking about crappy guitar or crappy guitar amp. My suggestion is to pair the pedals with a well-setup guitar kahit RJ lang or Fernando copies long as its well set and the PUPs are fairly paired to the planned pedal setup.

backread mo bro how we posted our replies, we are only adding suggestions.

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2009, 11:36:21 AM »
easy lang ako hehe.. :D.. anyways cge babanggitin ko rin na may amp ako, my amp is Peavey Bandit 112, and my guitar is Fender Squier.. yan ah easy lang ako ah :D

but understood na rin ung topic ko diba? mangogoleckta ka ba pedals if you dont have a guitar and guitar amp?..
tsaka I dont care if I have a crappy guitar and crappy guitar amp, Im just asking for what type of pedals should I buy first..

anyways,, sana ang nxt reply e related sa thread topic ko... ;)

peace tayo mga masters! :)

You missed their point. You SHOULD care. One of the biggest mistakes ng mga nagsisimula palang sa gitara eh inuuna yung effects kesa maginvest sa magandang amp at gitara. Effects sound different through different guitar and amp combinations so chances are, what you hear on demos and other people's rigs isnt what youre gonna get. Marami dito pag di masaya sa isang pedal, ibebenta tapos sasabihin pangit, yun pala yung amp o gitara yung nagiging limitation.

To answer your question, the most basic would be a good OD/distortion. From there, it would all depend on what kind of music you play (kaya dapat specify mo). Also, ikaw magbigay ng budget hindi kami. Otherwise, maguguluhan ka lang sa mga sagot namin.
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2009, 11:44:59 AM »
We're not talking about crappy guitar or crappy guitar amp. My suggestion is to pair the pedals with a well-setup guitar kahit RJ lang or Fernando copies long as its well set and the PUPs are fairly paired to the planned pedal setup.

backread mo bro how we posted our replies, we are only adding suggestions.

 :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:



you're not getting my point, I only ask what type of pedal should I get first,, and if your suggestion is to pair my guitar PUPs sa magandang pedal.. ok lang ung suggestion na un.. importante pa ba un? kaya nga may pedal effects eh para mapaganda ung sound mo eh, tsaka dapat yang suggestion na yan ang unang mong sinabi saken, para naman hindi naabot sa ganitong usapan,

kc ang ginagawa nyo sumasagot muna kayo, kung meron pa dapat tanong bago dun..

tulad na lamang ng sinabi ni ierofan,

"umpisahan mo muna sa magandang amp pre"

diba parang out of topic naman un?

maganda sna kung tinanong nya muna ako kung anong amp ang gamit ko eh..
diba?..

tsaka dapat maisip nyo rin ung point of view ko based sa topic ko..

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #28 on: October 13, 2009, 11:56:45 AM »
POPCORN!!!  :-D

back to topic...
+1 to boogsy
OD/ Distortion

and +1000 sa explanation nya!  :-D
« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 11:58:53 AM by trinch »

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #29 on: October 13, 2009, 11:57:55 AM »
you're not getting my point, I only ask what type of pedal should I get first,, and if your suggestion is to pair my guitar PUPs sa magandang pedal.. ok lang ung suggestion na un.. importante pa ba un? kaya nga may pedal effects eh para mapaganda ung sound mo eh, tsaka dapat yang suggestion na yan ang unang mong sinabi saken, para naman hindi naabot sa ganitong usapan,

kc ang ginagawa nyo sumasagot muna kayo, kung meron pa dapat tanong bago dun..

tulad na lamang ng sinabi ni ierofan,

"umpisahan mo muna sa magandang amp pre"

diba parang out of topic naman un?

maganda sna kung tinanong nya muna ako kung anong amp ang gamit ko eh..
diba?..

tsaka dapat maisip nyo rin ung point of view ko based sa topic ko..


Binibigyan ka nila ng valuable advice bro, wag mo ineglect. It's well within the topic. You wanted tips diba? What he is saying is that if you start buying pedals while ignoring the BASIC components of your tone, mapapagastos ka lang in the long run.
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2009, 12:16:07 PM »
@TS,

identify mo muna kung ano ang goal mo sa pang-ngolekta,

gusto mo bang mangolekta lang or
gusto mo bang ma-ngolekta na swak sa tugtugan mo

importante din kung ano yung tugtugan.
kunwari blues ang tugtugan mo, hinde mo kakailangan ng metal sounding distortion or yung mga modulations
kung tipong U2 naman na may mga delay, masasabi din ng mga tao dito kung ano ang swak sa panlasa at budget mo.

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2009, 12:22:59 PM »
dapat magandang guitar at amp muna bago pedals..

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2009, 12:28:40 PM »
you're not getting my point, I only ask what type of pedal should I get first,, and if your suggestion is to pair my guitar PUPs sa magandang pedal.. ok lang ung suggestion na un.. importante pa ba un? kaya nga may pedal effects eh para mapaganda ung sound mo eh, tsaka dapat yang suggestion na yan ang unang mong sinabi saken, para naman hindi naabot sa ganitong usapan,

kc ang ginagawa nyo sumasagot muna kayo, kung meron pa dapat tanong bago dun..

tulad na lamang ng sinabi ni ierofan,

"umpisahan mo muna sa magandang amp pre"

diba parang out of topic naman un?

maganda sna kung tinanong nya muna ako kung anong amp ang gamit ko eh..
diba?..

tsaka dapat maisip nyo rin ung point of view ko based sa topic ko..


You asked for tips on starting a pedal collection, and our tip is to first have a good guitar-amp combo. Kahit wala ng amp, importante is a guitar that will be matched to the planned pedals.

Pedals will sound different in different guitars. An MT2 will sound fatter in a Les Paul than in a Fender Strat and will sound differently in a Fender then Marshall amp. Nuances yan, from string gauge to type of wood used, even bridge type.

I have been collecting pedals since the mid 90's, and surely siguro after all the hits and missess I have in purchasing pedals I could share naman a decent tip. Many of us here in GC have a good reason to suggest in investing on the guitar first then pedals next because based on our experience, it still boils down to the guitar. A good guitar won't even need a chorus unit or a compressor unit.

And many genres specifically ask for a type of guitar, which cannot be magically conjured from a pedal.

e.g. the hollow-body tone of a jazz guitar cannot be coaxed out of an Ibanez superstrat with the use of pedals. Or mix an authentic surf-rock twang out of a Les Paul using pedals. You could approximate using EQ's and pedals, but nothing beats a Telecaster twang.

And the tip is, have a good guitar to begin with before starting the pedal collection. It does not have to be expensive or branded. It just has to be good to get the most out of your planned pedal collection.  :wink:

the guitar will matter. pedals won't make it sound good. its the guitar that has to sound good in the first place.

hope that clears a lot of things up for you.  :wink:

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« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 12:38:29 PM by digitalcyco »
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2009, 12:34:00 PM »
ang ganda naman ng approach nung iba...
kaya wag sanang bigyan ng ibang kulay...
ang buhay ehek advice pala  :lol:

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2009, 12:37:24 PM »
ang ganda naman ng approach nung iba...
kaya wag sanang bigyan ng ibang kulay...
ang buhay ehek advice pala  :lol:

bilib din ako sa mga sagot ng mga tao sa thread na 'to.  halata ang patience.  :lol:
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2009, 12:50:41 PM »
ang ganda naman ng approach nung iba...
kaya wag sanang bigyan ng ibang kulay...
ang buhay ehek advice pala  :lol:



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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2009, 01:24:01 PM »
bilib din ako sa mga sagot ng mga tao sa thread na 'to.  halata ang patience.  :lol:

Yeah... teka ingat baka mapagsabihan ako dito na nagpopost pero di nagbibigay ng tips. Kaw din arkee magpost ka ng tips masabihan ka sige ka

Anyway: in order of acquisition, ito ang suggestion ko (ayoko kasi masabihan e, baka maging OT pa ko)

Tuner pedals - boss tu2, korg dt10
OD - os2, sd1, OCD, zendrive
Delay - dd3, timefactor

Atleast di ako OT. At sana di ako mapagsabihan
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #37 on: October 13, 2009, 01:26:46 PM »
bilib din ako sa mga sagot ng mga tao sa thread na 'to.  halata ang patience.  :lol:

hahaha napansin ko din yun haha  :lol:
sadyang maganda siguro araw ng lahat, wala ng bagyo  :lol:


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Yeah... teka ingat baka mapagsabihan ako dito na nagpopost pero di nagbibigay ng tips. Kaw din arkee magpost ka ng tips masabihan ka sige ka

Anyway: in order of acquisition, ito ang suggestion ko (ayoko kasi masabihan e, baka maging OT pa ko)

Tuner pedals - boss tu2, korg dt10
OD - os2, sd1, OCD, zendrive
Delay - dd3, timefactor

Atleast di ako OT. At sana di ako mapagsabihan

hehe sige, usual na sagot ko...


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« Last Edit: October 13, 2009, 01:30:47 PM by arkeetar »

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #38 on: October 13, 2009, 01:29:18 PM »
Yeah... teka ingat baka mapagsabihan ako dito na nagpopost pero di nagbibigay ng tips. Kaw din arkee magpost ka ng tips masabihan ka sige ka

Anyway: in order of acquisition, ito ang suggestion ko (ayoko kasi masabihan e, baka maging OT pa ko)

Tuner pedals - boss tu2, korg dt10
OD - os2, sd1, OCD, zendrive
Delay - dd3, timefactor

Atleast di ako OT. At sana di ako mapagsabihan


tanong lang ser? may point ba yung reply ko sa thread on page 1 ata  :? may naishare ba ko  :?
                 

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #39 on: October 13, 2009, 01:30:05 PM »
Yeah... teka ingat baka mapagsabihan ako dito na nagpopost pero di nagbibigay ng tips. Kaw din arkee magpost ka ng tips masabihan ka sige ka

Anyway: in order of acquisition, ito ang suggestion ko (ayoko kasi masabihan e, baka maging OT pa ko)

Tuner pedals - boss tu2, korg dt10
OD - os2, sd1, OCD, zendrive
Delay - dd3, timefactor

Atleast di ako OT. At sana di ako mapagsabihan

okay fine.  :lol:

i suggest getting an OD first then delay.  yan ang pinaka-basic IMO.  tapos pwede mo nang sundan either ng compressor or chorus.
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #40 on: October 13, 2009, 01:32:50 PM »
collection?

start ka sa mga vintage delays at drives

you con also consider botique stuffs
Ibanez RG321MH RB, Artec GIOVANNI Custom Humbucker GCH2 Bridge and Neck,Ibanez WD7, Fulltone OCD V4, Boss CE2, Boss HR2, EHX Holystain,MI Audio Crunchbox, Boss RV3, Unoh PSU, Dunlop Jazz III

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2009, 01:33:37 PM »
collection?

start ka sa mga vintage delays at drives

you con also consider botique stuffs

sa wakas!!!  :-D
                 

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2009, 01:45:52 PM »
BTT

Chorus
delay
compressor
booster
eq
OD/distortion
reverb
HPS
wah pedal
phaser
tremelo
sustainer/feedbacker
at TUNER :lol: dapat talaga may tuner.,

at dami pa :lol:

lahat ng yan gusto ko BOSS!!!! Ang sarap tingnan eh! Ganda ng mga kulay!

Mga 60k kasya na kaya lahat yan?

Basta someday., makakabili rin ako nyan., :) kahit ban ban ako.,

Offline masterchoxter

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2009, 01:50:28 PM »
bilib din ako sa mga sagot ng mga tao sa thread na 'to.  halata ang patience.  :lol:

the virtue is growing in the forum... i'm impressed!

on topic:

gusto mo ng suggestion, right?

just like what they said, go for dirt and delay first... and a tuner... (but do consider getting a good amp and guitar)

So here are my suggestions since you really want to get the good stuff...

OD - barber electronics( :wink:), fulltone, MIaudio, Hermida electronics, Tone Czar
Delay - T.C. Electronics, Empress, Pigtronix
Tuner - Peterson Strobostomp, Korg Pitchblack

now try to view the demo vids of these products/brands at youtube so you'll see and hear them work yourself...  :wink:



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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #44 on: October 13, 2009, 01:58:50 PM »
dude, it's not in the pedals, nor the gear. It's the cat. It's the "soul".  - EVH.







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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #45 on: October 13, 2009, 02:05:37 PM »
dude, it's not in the pedals, nor the gear. It's the cat. It's the "soul".  - EVH.






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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #46 on: October 13, 2009, 02:11:02 PM »
dude, it's not in the pedals, nor the gear. It's the cat. It's the "soul".  - EVH.



LOLZ!!

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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2009, 02:13:39 PM »
sa tingin nyo mag kano rin ang budget? yung bang kuntento ka na talaga ka pedals na nabili mo ( and cheap ung para sa masa ung presyo)

the virtue is growing in the forum... i'm impressed!

on topic:

gusto mo ng suggestion, right?

just like what they said, go for dirt and delay first... and a tuner... (but do consider getting a good amp and guitar)

So here are my suggestions since you really want to get the good stuff...

OD - barber electronics( :wink:), fulltone, MIaudio, Hermida electronics, Tone Czar
Delay - T.C. Electronics, Empress, Pigtronix
Tuner - Peterson Strobostomp, Korg Pitchblack

now try to view the demo vids of these products/brands at youtube so you'll see and hear them work yourself...  :wink:


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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
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Re: Tips naman dyan, nag uumpisa palang ako mag collect ng pedals..
« Reply #49 on: October 13, 2009, 02:25:11 PM »
:D

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sa tingin nyo mag kano rin ang budget? yung bang kuntento ka na talaga ka pedals na nabili mo ( and cheap ung para sa masa ung presyo)

but he also said the words i highlighted...  :wink: :-D

and i believe almost anyone can be contented with that brand...  :lol: 8-)

and the TS seemed to be not that keen on the initial suggestions of our fellow members...  :-D
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