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Title: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on March 22, 2012, 08:25:52 PM
Anyone use guitar modelers like Variax or guitar synth like Roland GR and VG series?  Share your gear, and tips in this thread!  Let's learn from each other.

To start off, here's my Synth/Modeler Gear - A Roland GR-55, and an internal GK kit that I installed in my Epiphone Les Paul Plus Top PRO/FX (bought from Rmansh :)), and an Ibanez RG with external GK-3 pickup.  I found it really useful and have used it in several gigs, and at church as well.  The functions that I have maximized so far: Acoustic/Electric Modeler with alternate tuning, synth, and the USB for backing track.

The GR-55 is amazing as it now offers guitar modeling like variax.  The sound is not as good as the real thing but useful enough for live, and very convenient too - especially for alternate tunings (used in songs like Iris, Everlong, and some praise drop D songs), as well as 12-string (Dead or Alive with sitar :razz: ), and Michael Bolton's "To Love Somebody" (strat and keyboards).

The GR-55 also has amp and cab modelling, most of the effects that GT-10 has, though not as good and dynamic, but again for live use is great.  If I only had one complain with this is that they should have put an expansion for additional CTL controls using Boss FS-6.

A couple of tips for GK users:
- You can use the GK-Guitar switch as modeler pickup switch to switch from bridge to neck pickup.  I don't know if it is a bug but it just work that way.
- You can use the GK-volume to toggle strat 5-way or tele/les paul 3-way
- CTL can be used either to turn on distortion, chorus, or volume boost (or any parameter can be assigned like the GT-10).  Then if one CTL is not enough, you can also assign an action to the EXPSW (depressing the foot controller like turning on a wah).

Here's the gear:
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AxY1qztZnoI/T4G1Yj8a4QI/AAAAAAAAJ_M/ndo8tPSOKbU/s512/P1000336.JPG)

Here's my conversion of my floyd LP to a GK-guitar:
I converted one of the LPs to one volume and one tone, and I installed the GK volume and GK-guitar selector switch to the other holes.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-tm6hf08fXeo/T2sQVosR-MI/AAAAAAAAJqk/iQ-sorxk5VI/s720/P1000151.JPG)

GK pickup installed in reverse
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gOfQknpukjM/T2sQpzaBj2I/AAAAAAAAJqs/hNPb5t-FT0A/s720/P1000147.JPG)

Installed the S1/S2 switch near the pickup selector (para may butas na).  I got this design from the vguitar forums.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V6SiZsr9nJE/T2sQuI2UGEI/AAAAAAAAJq0/7stVvEi2wHg/s720/P1000150.JPG)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: marcus_gloom on March 22, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
Nifty set-up! With that you can play anything.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on March 23, 2012, 10:00:31 PM
Nifty set-up! With that you can play anything.

yup indeed! I even use this to learn 7-string songs like Korn, sobrang versatile talaga.  Sa church, I played a couple of times with acoustic guitar, strings, and bass all at the same time  :).  Pero I switched back to playing guitar, natatabunan na kasi yung iba, hehe.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on March 25, 2012, 02:48:21 AM
Anyone else use synth or modeler?  Looks like it's not something popular.  GR-55, Roland GC-1 or Variax James Tyler is not even available here.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 08, 2012, 01:46:41 PM
Looks like this post is becoming a blog, hehe  :-D  Anyway, I still think someone out there is into synths and modellers so I'll continue to fire away, as this could be helpful to someone.

Something I learned yesterday about GK pickups:  Midi tracking will better when the GK pickup is closer to the bridge.  I transferred my external GK-3 pickup from my Ibanez RG to my Epi Les Paul.  I was able to set it up such that the GK pickup is around 10mm - 15mm from the saddles (unike in my Ibanez and my other floyd LP where it ranges from 16mm - 24mm).  I got better tracking and less "ghost notes" and "accidental harmonics".

The other thing I also learned is that the guitar modelling tone is better when the GK pickup is farther from the bridge.  That's because the tone of the raw sound coming from the GK pickup contributes to the tone of the modelled guitar.  I get better acoustic guitar and Les Paul sounds from my floyded Epi LP because the GK pickup ranges from 18-24mm.  But the trade off is that I get not-so-good tracking for synth (so I have to be more careful when playing).

Ah, and the other thing is that the tracking improved when I increased string gauge from .009 to 0.010.

I'll post some demo soon.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: mustangtony on April 08, 2012, 03:43:18 PM
Hi TS. How much is a Roland GR -55? I have a guitar that is a midi compatible. What I did was to plug it into a Korg X5-D key board which has its own amp. Umandar naman, kaya lang grabe ang dami ng equipment and wires. With this setup, the guitar is able to sound like the Korg keyborg and all the possible sounds the keyboard has. Can that be done by the  the GR55?
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 08, 2012, 11:45:40 PM
I think a midi-compatible guitar is different than a GK-ready.  So does your guitar have a MIDI out?  What is the model?  I'm curious.  If your guitar indeed has a MIDI out, it cannot be used with GR-55.  GR-55 accepts only GK input (13 pin).  Also, you cannot drive the GR-55 sound library with external MIDI input, like a keyboard or MIDI guitar like what you have.

The GR-55 has its own synth library, so it is like a keyboard module, only it is driven by the guitar.  So it can also sound like an X5D.  Pero what I have not tried is to connect the MIDI out of the GR-55 to a keyboard and use the keyboard's sounds.  Pero what's good about the GR-55 is not only can you do synth sounds, you can also do guitar modelling like Line6 Variax, and you can do both synth (two sounds at the same time) + guitar modelling + your guitar tone.

GR-55 is $799 with the GK-3 pickup (I think $699 without).  Wala pa ako nakita sa Yupangco na GR-55, so I had to buy it in the states and ship it here.

Let me know about your guitar, I think it is interesting.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: mustangtony on April 09, 2012, 12:14:19 AM
The guitar I have is a Parker Nitefly midi. It has 2 outputs and can run 3 amps all simul...i.e.  a Fender Amp, an acoustic amp (using a stereo cable to the 2 amps) and a Korg  keyboard amp. kaya lang matagal ayusin because you have to setup the keyboard to the amp, then the guitar to the keyboard, and so forth. I'd like to use the midi but without bringing the korg keyboard (another hassle).

Thanks for the GR55 info, but do you know what equipment can I buy that can optimize the use of the Parker's midi line out without using the keyboard. I have to admit that I am not into  hi-tech electronics.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 09, 2012, 12:31:41 AM
Is this your guitar below?  Wow, it's amazing to know they make guitars like this.  How was the tracking when you connected it to the keyboard?  "tracking" means how accurately does the keyboard pickup the midi notes coming from the guitar?

As to what you can use with your guitar, you can just buy a sound module like this: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/roland-bk-7m-backing-module (http://www.musiciansfriend.com/keyboards-midi/roland-bk-7m-backing-module).  Or you can buy a GR-55 and connect an external GK-3 kit to your nitefly.
you may also opt to get "legacy" sound modules, Yupangco is selling them.  Check this Roland JV-1080 for example: http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_nocart.tpl&product_id=2264&category_id=63&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53 (http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_nocart.tpl&product_id=2264&category_id=63&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53), pero medyo vintage na to  :-D  Here's a demo of the module http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/jv1080.php (http://www.vintagesynth.com/roland/jv1080.php)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t157/yngvae2/post%20baby/parker%20midi%20fly/DSC02505.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: mustangtony on April 09, 2012, 01:12:49 AM
Thanks Markcasq. Except for the color (mine is red and white), its exactly the same guitar. Tracking is perfect....I played , for example, an instrumental version of "Till there was You" by the beatles and I had a full orchestra backing my lead notes. The guitar is better than the player!!!

So I need a sound module..... thanks for the info. Kaya lang, ang mahal naman. Dumugo na ako sa gitara...dudugo pa pala ako sa sound module.  Thanks again Markcasq!
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 09, 2012, 01:56:05 AM
My pleasure mustangtony.  Very nice guitar you have there!  Parkers are great guitars, I wish I can have one someday, especially those with GK or midi like yours.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: MYN11 on April 09, 2012, 08:58:42 PM
I've been using the Line6 Variax 700 since it came out 8/9 years ago. I don't see any big difference with the new James Tyler Variax.

Regarding Guitar Synth, I stopped using it 5 years ago due to latency issues. IMO, hindi pa rin maayos ang tracking ng guitar synths. Unnatural for me. With the new and current models though, medyo maganda na. Maybe soon I'll try again.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 09, 2012, 11:11:30 PM
I've been using the Line6 Variax 700 since it came out 8/9 years ago. I don't see any big difference with the new James Tyler Variax.

Regarding Guitar Synth, I stopped using it 5 years ago due to latency issues. IMO, hindi pa rin maayos ang tracking ng guitar synths. Unnatural for me. With the new and current models though, medyo maganda na. Maybe soon I'll try again.

Yes, that's true.  You also need a lot of tweaking to get the tracking right.  It has it's place in some situations, but definitely you will not be able to fully replace the keyboardist.  It's also hard to do fast runs without being a guitar god :-)  But with the GR-55 guitar modelling though, guitar synth goes to a new usable level.  I guess that's why Roland included guitar modelling:  synth access is not that perfect.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: Schimitar on April 12, 2012, 06:35:54 AM
GR-30 user here. ung pickup ko GK-2.
Medyo sensitive ung cable ng guitar synth.
Kya pag ginagamit ko maingat akong kumilos or else may unwanted sound na lumalabas. Madalas kong gamitin ung violin, piano and sax.
Since i took up classical guitar lessons, marami akong natutugtog na piano pieces kahit di ako marunong magpiano.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 23, 2012, 03:38:11 PM
New product coming from Fishman called triple play, looks like tracking is better, and it's wireless!  But it might not work with the GK system.

Nice demo here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nKhlmJ4EeI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nKhlmJ4EeI)

(http://www.gearwire.com/media/fishman-triple-play-wireless-guitar-controller-technology.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: MYN11 on April 23, 2012, 10:16:31 PM
New product coming from Fishman called triple play, looks like tracking is better, and it's wireless!  But it might not work with the GK system.

Nice demo here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nKhlmJ4EeI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nKhlmJ4EeI)

(http://www.gearwire.com/media/fishman-triple-play-wireless-guitar-controller-technology.jpg)

Mas gusto ko ito over the GK system. Tracking is definitely better.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on April 23, 2012, 10:37:11 PM
Mas gusto ko ito over the GK system. Tracking is definitely better.
Yeah, from the video it seems effortless yung nagde demo, walang sabit yung organ or piano.  Although, what I noticed is that the fishman is connected to a Gibson.  If you are using a gibson bridge, you can really put the pickup very close to the saddles - which contributes to tracking accuracy vs. a tremolo system.  What I found is that my LP fixed bridge tracks a lot better than my LP floyd.  I can almost do careless stuff in my LP fixed bridge. 

Pero yeah, the fishman seems to track a lot better, and it looks like walang latency and very accurate yung pickup ng fishman.  Pero ang wala sya is guitar modelling, and no dedicated synth system right now from the demo.  Direct lang sa PC.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on June 08, 2012, 02:06:16 AM
New - black GR-55.  This looks a lot better than the blue one.. looks like the finish is the same as ME-70.  I guess Roland realized that many people might prefer black vs. blue.

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/1800/GR55sBK-xlarge.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: j3yps on June 08, 2012, 02:58:15 AM
Pasingit lang sir
...selling a practically bnew GR20 w/ GK3 pickups! PM me for details!
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: brandey on August 17, 2012, 03:34:38 PM
New - black GR-55.  This looks a lot better than the blue one.. looks like the finish is the same as ME-70.  I guess Roland realized that many people might prefer black vs. blue.

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/1800/GR55sBK-xlarge.jpg)

GAS!!!!!
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: brandey on August 17, 2012, 03:39:07 PM
Thanks markcasq for leading me to this thread.

This is what ive been using for my synth needs. :)

Fender American Standard with GK-3
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/grdude/_DSC06182.jpg)

SYNTH/GUITAR HYBRID BOARD. Roland GR-20 and Line 6 M9. This is my simplified board for easy setups. Pero madalas dala ko yung full pedalboard sa sahig lang yung synth  :razz:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/grdude/302563_239212432780615_3864874_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: kernelsalonpas on August 17, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
yup indeed! I even use this to learn 7-string songs like Korn, sobrang versatile talaga.  Sa church, I played a couple of times with acoustic guitar, strings, and bass all at the same time  :).  Pero I switched back to playing guitar, natatabunan na kasi yung iba, hehe.
first time I've read Korn and church in one post.

so pag may gusto bumili ng high gain pedals tapos for church daw, si mark na un  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: reji05ramos on August 17, 2012, 07:46:00 PM
Hi, I'm planning on buying a line6 fm4 tanong ko lang kung ano pang similar pedals sa kanya that offer the same same effects but on a smaller chassis.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: Xelly on August 17, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
GAS!! :drool:
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: overdrive/distortion on August 17, 2012, 10:17:33 PM
Para saan ba guitar out ng roland gr55? nasa gr55 rin ba ang features sa GR33?
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on August 17, 2012, 10:29:16 PM
Thanks markcasq for leading me to this thread.

This is what ive been using for my synth needs. :)

Fender American Standard with GK-3
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/grdude/_DSC06182.jpg)

SYNTH/GUITAR HYBRID BOARD. Roland GR-20 and Line 6 M9. This is my simplified board for easy setups. Pero madalas dala ko yung full pedalboard sa sahig lang yung synth  :razz:
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y2/grdude/302563_239212432780615_3864874_n.jpg)

Nice rig brandey!  Even if gr55 can do what m9 does, better pa din quality ng m9 for sure.  At last, may bagong rig sharing na din sa thread na to, hehe.


first time I've read Korn and church in one post.

so pag may gusto bumili ng high gain pedals tapos for church daw, si mark na un  :-D :-D :-D

Haha, napaka creative, mo talaga kernel. Sayang nga e, bawal distortion sa church.



Para saan ba guitar out ng roland gr55? nasa gr55 rin ba ang features sa GR33?

Dun lumalabas ang guitar signal para pwede mo i-connect sa guitar effects / amp of you want the synth/modeller separate from the true guitar sound



Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: brandey on August 18, 2012, 06:46:14 AM
Bro nararanasan mo rin ba na minsan hindi lahat ng strings tumutunog? Nagiging problem ko kasi yun lately. I think dun sa input ng GK cable s synth ko. I already tried spraying it with contact cleaner pero minsan nangyayari parin. :-(
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on August 18, 2012, 03:27:36 PM
Bro nararanasan mo rin ba na minsan hindi lahat ng strings tumutunog? Nagiging problem ko kasi yun lately. I think dun sa input ng GK cable s synth ko. I already tried spraying it with contact cleaner pero minsan nangyayari parin. :-(

Di pa naman bro. Baka GK cable yung problem? Test mo with multi tester
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: stirfriedstrat on August 18, 2012, 07:09:20 PM
buti nakita ko tong thread na to, hanep yung tracking ng fishman triple play mukhang tatalunin yung GK3
! kaso parang wala pang pitch bend. uuwi kasi sa holidays yung tiyuhin ko eh magpapabili na sana ako ng GR20 or GR55 kaso mukhang mas ok tong gawa ng fishman saka mas mura. na try ko na dati yung lumang gk2 thru roland GI-10 (guitar midi interface) derecho sa roland mc-50 kaso may mga stray notes pag nag rerecord ng midi data lalo pag chords or kahit single notes (example: bass line or other instrument solos with or without pitch wheel events) so isa isa ko pang binubura yung mga notang di kasali (yung muted notes kahit di masyadong dinig lumalabas pa rin as midi data so medyo madumi kaya kelangan tanggalin). yung fishman mukhang nasolusyunan tong issue na to.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: kernelsalonpas on August 18, 2012, 11:05:36 PM

Haha, napaka creative, mo talaga kernel. Sayang nga e, bawal distortion sa church.


shempre pareho lang tayo ng pinanggalingan eh.. hail hail..  :-P

BTT: natry ko na ung synth/modeler ni mark galing nga.. talk about being versatile  :cool:
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: glassjaw_jc on August 19, 2012, 12:16:16 PM
Has anyone tried the Roland VG-99/VB-99?
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on August 20, 2012, 12:17:16 AM
buti nakita ko tong thread na to, hanep yung tracking ng fishman triple play mukhang tatalunin yung GK3
! kaso parang wala pang pitch bend. uuwi kasi sa holidays yung tiyuhin ko eh magpapabili na sana ako ng GR20 or GR55 kaso mukhang mas ok tong gawa ng fishman saka mas mura. na try ko na dati yung lumang gk2 thru roland GI-10 (guitar midi interface) derecho sa roland mc-50 kaso may mga stray notes pag nag rerecord ng midi data lalo pag chords or kahit single notes (example: bass line or other instrument solos with or without pitch wheel events) so isa isa ko pang binubura yung mga notang di kasali (yung muted notes kahit di masyadong dinig lumalabas pa rin as midi data so medyo madumi kaya kelangan tanggalin). yung fishman mukhang nasolusyunan tong issue na to.

Yup, looks promising yung fishman, hindi ko maisip pano magagawa yung ginawa sa demo ng guy.  He was not careful at all, pero sakto yung tracking.  I think that's the reason why Roland included guitar modelling sa GR55 para at least may other usable features given the tracking issues.  Pero what I discovered is maganda sa LP bridge yung Roland, better tracking the closer you get to the bridge.  You can only do that sa LP bridge.



shempre pareho lang tayo ng pinanggalingan eh.. hail hail..  :-P

BTT: natry ko na ung synth/modeler ni mark galing nga.. talk about being versatile  :cool:

Haha, anu ba yung tinugtog natin nun?  Sweet Child na naka acoustic modeller, hehe.   Maganda sana yung dead or alive, 12-string guitar with wind and juju.  Panalo.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: brandey on August 20, 2012, 07:55:14 AM
Bro yung mga acoustic models ba ng GR55 minsan hindi sakto ang tracking? Pinagpipilian ko kase ngayon kung bili ako ng gr55 or install nlng ako ng PIEZO saddles for acoustic sounds.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on August 20, 2012, 12:25:28 PM
Bro yung mga acoustic models ba ng GR55 minsan hindi sakto ang tracking? Pinagpipilian ko kase ngayon kung bili ako ng gr55 or install nlng ako ng PIEZO saddles for acoustic sounds.

Pag models, no tracking yun, instantaneous yung tunog nya.  Saka hindi lang acoustic ang ginagawa ng modelling, pati 12-string, Les Paul model, strat, tele, etc.  Then you can change the tuning, pwedeng baritone, drop D, Eb tuning, and no tracking to be considered.  Sa midi/synth sounds lang applicable ang tracking.  Yung piezo, isa lang pwede mo magawa dun, so suggest ko GR55 na lang, since may GK-3 ka na din naman. 
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: jetica11 on August 23, 2012, 06:46:38 AM
UP
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: jazhombie on August 24, 2012, 02:32:45 AM
Post some demo or vids na rin so we can see how your setup sounds.  :)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: brandey on August 24, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
Pag models, no tracking yun, instantaneous yung tunog nya.  Saka hindi lang acoustic ang ginagawa ng modelling, pati 12-string, Les Paul model, strat, tele, etc.  Then you can change the tuning, pwedeng baritone, drop D, Eb tuning, and no tracking to be considered.  Sa midi/synth sounds lang applicable ang tracking.  Yung piezo, isa lang pwede mo magawa dun, so suggest ko GR55 na lang, since may GK-3 ka na din naman.

NICE :razz: GAS na talaga ako sa gr55 :drool: Sana maglabas rin ang boss na GR20 sized na version ng GR55 or better yet kahit VG models lang. Need ko  talaga yung acoustic tones. Nahihirapan na kasi ako mag bitbit ng acoustic and electric with pedalboard sa gig :-D

Sana pati Line6 maglabas narin ng Floor based unit ng Variax :drool: :razz: :cool: :money: Isa pa sa GAS ko ngayon yung James Tyler variax!!!
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on August 24, 2012, 09:21:10 PM
NICE :razz: GAS na talaga ako sa gr55 :drool: Sana maglabas rin ang boss na GR20 sized na version ng GR55 or better yet kahit VG models lang. Need ko  talaga yung acoustic tones. Nahihirapan na kasi ako mag bitbit ng acoustic and electric with pedalboard sa gig :-D

Sana pati Line6 maglabas narin ng Floor based unit ng Variax :drool: :razz: :cool: :money: Isa pa sa GAS ko ngayon yung James Tyler variax!!!

Yeah, o nga e, medyo malaki ang board ng GR55, pero nandun na kasi lahat, even yung mga effects ng GT series, meron din, like amp modelling, stomp boxes, and mga weird modulations and delay like slicer.

medyo na GAS din ako sa James Tyler variax, pero kasi nao obsolete kasi.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: reji05ramos on August 24, 2012, 10:25:17 PM
Hi, I'm planning on buying a line6 fm4 tanong ko lang kung ano pang similar pedals sa kanya that offer the same same effects but on a smaller chassis.

Up ko lang question ko, baka sakaling may nakaka alam. :)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: brandey on August 24, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
Up ko lang question ko, baka sakaling may nakaka alam. :)

Di ako masyadong familiar sa Line 6 FM4. Sa pagkakaalam ko isa yun sa unang filter modelers nila. Try mo yung Line 6 Otto Filter. Stompbox size siya pero  auto wah filter lang sya. Yung Line 6 M9 marami siyang filter models. Kung gusto mong mas maliit pa yung Line 6 M5.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: jannten on August 25, 2012, 01:27:54 AM
synth/modeller din ba ung korg kp3?

dati kasi roland din gamit ng muse nung naguumpisa palang sila ngaun ung korg na.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: BlackDiamond on August 25, 2012, 09:03:01 AM
New - black GR-55.  This looks a lot better than the blue one.. looks like the finish is the same as ME-70.  I guess Roland realized that many people might prefer black vs. blue.

(http://www.sweetwater.com/images/items/1800/GR55sBK-xlarge.jpg)

after you demo how your guitar synth work (napa-WOW ako nun! swabe yung tone plugged in to your KB amp) when we met weeks ago and seeing that it's now available in black. bumalik yung GAS ko! LOL!

after checking the price (I don't have an idea of the pricing of a guitar synth, I thought parang multi-effects lang and mas mahal ng konti)...

http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLGR55 (http://www.zzounds.com/item--ROLGR55)

hindi pala biro price niyan. My GAS went pfffft! hahaha

Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on August 25, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
Haha, pero mas mura ko nakuha akin sa rmcaudio, malakas sila mag discount e. Sagot pa nila yung transfer fee. $719 vs $799. Although nabawi din sa shipping to philippines. But still mura na din, hehe.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: XMPLIFY on November 20, 2012, 08:41:03 PM
i'm in

 :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: rolexm on November 20, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
I want to try your guitar mark. :) HEHE.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on November 20, 2012, 10:36:52 PM
i'm in

 :mrgreen:

Congrats bro! Show us some pics naman!


@Rob - sure man, jst text me and lets work out a sked. Im wishing i have a good FR speaker though. The laney ah100 is not working for me anymore.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: vahnrondel on February 21, 2013, 03:43:00 PM
bought my ROLAND GR-30 from sir moncseb :) medyo sensitive lang talaga gk cables no?
ininstall ko yung GK-2A pickup sa ibanez rg350dx ko, mejo nakakapanibago yung setup kasi nasanay ako mabababa yung string height. ngayon kailangan ko magadjust kasi pag di ko tinaasan, hindi magkakasya yung divided pick-up, puro buzz...
naiisip kong solution, magugupit ako ng pickguard ko pra mejo bumaba yung GK-2A pick-up...
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: gandydancer123 on February 21, 2013, 05:10:48 PM
http://www.engadget.com/2012/10/19/moog-lev-96/

guys check this out!
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on February 22, 2013, 07:44:46 AM
bought my ROLAND GR-30 from sir moncseb :) medyo sensitive lang talaga gk cables no?
ininstall ko yung GK-2A pickup sa ibanez rg350dx ko, mejo nakakapanibago yung setup kasi nasanay ako mabababa yung string height. ngayon kailangan ko magadjust kasi pag di ko tinaasan, hindi magkakasya yung divided pick-up, puro buzz...
naiisip kong solution, magugupit ako ng pickguard ko pra mejo bumaba yung GK-2A pick-up...

ah, saka isa pa hindi ka makakapag pull up ng trem bar pag may GK.  Kaya nilipat ko yung GK ko to a fixed bridge guitar
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: markcasq on March 21, 2013, 02:34:27 AM
Update:  I sold my Epi Les Paul Custom and replaced it with this:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/v/702195_10151391422721202_533144819_n.jpg?oh=9678319749bd459cb887e72680c42ca5&oe=514C1AF1&__gda__=1364017795_7c5e65f069e75dd84cdc9a67c9eabaa4)
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: bugoy on January 16, 2014, 05:51:03 PM
may mas compact version ba yung GR-20 or GR-55 ng roland ? or walang exp pedal na version ?

Tia!
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: captainbackfire on January 25, 2014, 01:49:58 AM
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd415/captainbackfire_jr/IMG_5308_zps0ef3a562.jpg)

Cool BEAT - SYNCHED arpeggiator and more. Beat synch means problems to record and perform with. Too bad. Anybody sorted this out?
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: lifestory08 on August 07, 2014, 08:07:06 AM
Gagana ba yung roland gr kung walang gk pickup?
Halimbawa guitara. Lng mismo isasaksak ko sa gr gagana ba xa?please patulong po,

Kung piezo saddle na pang naman ang pickup, gagana ba xa?
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: lowmid on August 08, 2014, 05:05:50 PM
Gagana ba yung roland gr kung walang gk pickup?
Halimbawa guitara. Lng mismo isasaksak ko sa gr gagana ba xa?please patulong po,

Kung piezo saddle na pang naman ang pickup, gagana ba xa?
hindi. ibang cable ang gamit sa GK pick up, hindi yong ordinary guitar cable. para mapa tunog mo ang mga piano,synth,brass etc. dapat may GK pick-up talaga.
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: lowmid on August 08, 2014, 05:35:03 PM
may mas compact version ba yung GR-20 or GR-55 ng roland ? or walang exp pedal na version ?

Tia!
roland gr-30
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: j3yps on August 09, 2014, 01:14:34 AM
Just got the chance to play with my GR55 yesterday and IT IS AWESOME!hahaha need to learn how to use it still hahaha
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: lifestory08 on August 09, 2014, 02:14:07 AM
Thank you very much po sir lowmid
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: lifestory08 on August 11, 2014, 02:48:12 PM
Mga sir patulong po bumili na ako ng gr 30 kasama yung accesories.nung sineset ko na yung pag pwesto ng gk pickup e nagkaron ng ground pag nilalakasan ko yung volume ng synth sa gk2a pickup may ground anlakas patulong po ano po kaya ang problema please patulong
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: chadsouleater on December 31, 2014, 11:02:17 AM
mga sir san po kya nakakabili ng 13 pin cable for roland gr.. ung through shipping po tnx..
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: regisreyes on October 10, 2016, 02:04:55 AM
saan makakabili ng fishman triple play wireless dito sa pilipinas?  :cry:
Title: Re: Guitar SYNTH/MODELER Users Thread
Post by: ninevoltrhythm on January 20, 2018, 08:56:25 AM
Hello!

I got a GR-55 and a Fender GC-1 last year from Moncseb

Who are still into this (GR-55)??

 :-D