Author Topic: B.Y.O.C. Club/Blog... (DIY bowteek pedals) (Read 45885 times)

kuyaneo · « **Reply #50 on:** June 08, 2007, 01:25:23 PM »

pcb etching 101
by kuyaneo
ito yung way na nakasanayan ko. maami pagn ibang ways dyan na mas mahal or mas mura
mga kialangan:

1. print out ng ready to transfer na board. pdf file usually yun. pag ipriprint niyo ay ilagay niyo na none sa page scaling option.
pina acetate ko sa powdered copy machine

2. sharpie. etch resistant pen to. ang nasa picture lang ay yung fine point. mas maganda kung lahat ng sizes meron kayo.

3. pen drill / drill press(not on the picture) ito ang gagamitin para pambutas ng pcb

4. laquer thinnner / acetone(not on the pic) pang linis ng pcb.

5. copper clad board a.k.a pcb

6. ferric chloride. ito ginagamit ko since readily available na. you can also use HCL. siguraduhing naksara ng mabuti dahil pwedeng mangalawang ang mga metal objects na nasa paligid nito.

7. scotch brite / sandpaper.

8. etching tray. make sure na plastic siya.

9. iron

steps:

1. linisin ang pcb gamit ang sandpaper o kaya scotch brite with dishwashing soap. pakintabinn niyo lang pero wag todo sa pagliha dahil mauubos ang copper. patuyuin.

2. ipreheat ang plantsa/iron ilagay sa no. 3 setting.

3. make sure na hindi niyo nahawakan ang part ng board na may copper. ipatong ang acetate, di din dapat nahawakan yung side na itratransfer(toner side).

5. after ipatong pwede niyong patungan ng papel yung acetate saka iplantsa or pwedeng direct. padaanan ng plantsa ng mga 3 beses or hanggang kumapit na yung toner sa pcb.

6. palamigin. after matransfer may mga parts na manipis lang ang pagkakapit ng toner or kulang pa. dito ngayon papasok ang sharpie. padaanan ng sharpie ang mga lugar na iyon.

7. ngayon ihanda ang ferric chloride. (magsuot ng rubber gloves dahil pag kumapit ito sa balat ay magiging color orange kayo). ipatong sa etching tray ang pcb(pwedeng nalagare na sa katamtamang sukat ang pcb). ilagay ang ferric chloride sa tray.

8. mag hintay. kung mainit ang panahon mas mabilis mag etch.

9. pag natapos na ang pag etch, haabang may suot na rubber gloves, kunin ang pcb at hugasan at patuyuin.

10. pwede pang gamitin ang ferric chloride na inyong nabili kung di pa siya green pero siyempre mas matagal mag eetch ang pcb dahil gamit na. wag itapon ang ferric chloride sa sink dahil possibleng mag corrode ang lababo niyo. pwede niyong lagyan ng gma nagkakalawang na na metal ang ferric chloride hanggang matuyo or sa toilet niyo.

11. pag katapos malinis ng pcb. kumuha ng basahan or tissue at lagyan ng thinner. ipunan sa pcb para matanggal ang toner.

12. ang kulang na lang ay butasan ito. pwede kayong gumamit ng pen drill na available sa hobby stores, alexan at deeco. may kasama na itong drill bit na pang pcb. pwede ding gumamit ng drill press na mas maraming use tulad ng apg butas ng encloseure.

13. ayan tapos na!.

hope nakatulong sa inyong gusto mag start sa pag gagawa ng mga sariling effects. di ko na talaga nilagyan ng pics yung mga process pero gets niyo naman sana to. reply na lang pag may tanong.

Blueberri · « **Reply #51 on:** June 08, 2007, 01:59:15 PM »

@ kuyaneo: Uy, di ko pa na try yang plantsa method ah...ginagamit ko ay yung photo sensitive na PCB sa Alexan...Also involves acetate copies nung layout.

do learn how to make PCBs. its quite easy once you get the hang of it...looks cool too...later on you can etch other stuff like your initials and stuff para personalized talaga...hehe

TS clone, i got sa tonepad...beware, there are a couple of hard to get parts I dunno kung pwede ng substitutes (dalawang caps). jrc4558s you can get sa Deeco.

another note: get proper tools!!! It'll make your life easier. You will have to spend a bit. Reserve your patience for the actuall assembly and trouble shooting. So make your life easier during the preperation stage by getting proper tools, a mini drill, mini cutters, a proper soldering iron, etc.

kuyaneo · « **Reply #52 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:05:48 PM »

medyo mahal yung photosensitive eh. Php 90 ata pinakamura. yung regula nasa Php 15 lang

kuyaneo · « **Reply #53 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:09:08 PM »

mga tools na kailangan:
soldering iron.
desolder pump
pliers
lead
mini drill/dremel/rtx
multimeter mas magnada kung digital multimeter
patience

optional:
soldering iron holder
flux
3rd hand or vice grip
drill press
magnifying glass

mahavishnu · « **Reply #54 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:12:37 PM »

alas! DIY pedals! they're very bitchy, you feel like crying when they dont work the first time.. and when you got it working, you are flabbergasting on yourself, then you mod it, then it doesnt work again and you feel like throwing it to the wall. im speaking from my experience ofcourse =]

im so lazy to start from scratch, thats why i usually buy a defective pedal , use it as a flatform or get its pcb. i plan to rehouse it, paint etc etc. so i think thats more in line with modding. but if you guys need help in building your own effects from scratch, i may be of help , i have the diagrams for basic ODs, delays, mosfet booster, DIY true bypass looper, big muff copy, CE-2, DS-1, electric mistress EHX, wah pedal, tremolo, tube screamer, octaver, envelope filter etc. if i didnt mention the effect you want, just pm me, i'll find it for you here

vaisteen2003 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:31:31 PM »

from reading alot of DIY stuff over the net i beleive the easiest and maybe the most recommended peadl to start with is a looper or a switcher of some sort. i stand corrected.

kuyaneo · « **Reply #56 on:** June 08, 2007, 02:38:20 PM »

pwede din since ang looper usually ay may switch at jacks lang. isa apng simpleng d.i.y build ay yung electra distortion. konti lang omponents at one knob lang siya kung tama pagkakaalala ko. maraming pwedeng gawing starting point. yung mga fuzz madadali lang gawin plus available parts dito sa atin. i recommend doing the big muff na tranny version

CARABAO · « **Reply #57 on:** June 08, 2007, 03:40:34 PM »

uy! tamang tama! thank you kuyaneo! panalo yung post mo!

@erwin: pare. pm na lang kita kung anong pwdeng makuhang diagrams sayo

thanks

CARABAO · « **Reply #58 on:** June 08, 2007, 03:44:58 PM »

tanong lang.. san makakabili ng ferric chloride? at san makakabili ng copper clad board? magkkano yang mga yan? at pano nalalaman kung natapos na yung etching?

Blueberri · « **Reply #59 on:** June 08, 2007, 03:51:31 PM »

sa deeco or alexan. sorry do ko sure yung price...

Oo nga pala...multi meter...hehe, kalimutan ko yun dun sa tool list ko.

CARABAO · « **Reply #60 on:** June 08, 2007, 04:05:57 PM »

ano yung multi meter duane?

Blueberri · « **Reply #61 on:** June 08, 2007, 04:17:36 PM »

multi meter, tester. comes in analog or digital. yung little box with an analog/digital meter taht you see TV repair men poke around the circuitboard??

lets you check a variety of things, continuity (if wether a circuit id open or closed),resistance, AC/DC voltage or current. and a lot of other things that i dont understand na rin...hehe.

im no expert din naman when it comes to electronics. I just have a lot of those lonely nights alone with my PC and the internet...just think about it, rather than spend time on pron...mag research ka na lng about DIY EFX! (Dang! sobrang nerdy na nun ah...). well, research on DIY EFX while you wait for your video download on limewire to finish...hehe

CARABAO · « **Reply #62 on:** June 08, 2007, 04:27:15 PM »

hehehe. sige pare! thanks! yun pala yung tester!

kuyaneo · « **Reply #63 on:** June 08, 2007, 05:30:00 PM »

ferric chloride. 18 ang isang bottle sa deeco. yung powdered di ko sure. hehe yung copped clad boar depende kung saan ka bibili at kung gnaong kalakae. pinaka mura ay php7 2x2 ata yun. malalaman mo kung tapos na mag etch pag kakulay na nung copper side ng board yung plastic side. mapapansin mo naman yun

danj0 · « **Reply #64 on:** June 08, 2007, 07:19:38 PM »

sakto pala.. duane, (bassist to ni mark) ok lang bang paturo din ako sayo minsan pag magstart na ako gmawa nang sariling efx? ahehehehe.. malapit lang naman ako.. nakatira lang ako sa may corner nang tandang sora at commonwealth.. ahehehe..

Blueberri · « **Reply #65 on:** June 08, 2007, 07:47:40 PM »

no prob man...I'll help you get started.

danj0 · « **Reply #66 on:** June 08, 2007, 07:56:36 PM »

ayos! sakto kakabili ko lang kanina nang mga gamit na pang electronics (kasi ngayong sem ako magsstart sa electronics proper nang course ko) ok lang kaya dumaan ako bukas nang hapon siguro? text kita kung tuloy.. para makapagtanong tanong ako saka macompare na nga bdi.. ahehehe

niwrad_nagnap · « **Reply #67 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:38:06 PM »

sir, d ko talaga maintindihan!!!!

.. mga sir pano po ba gumawa? san makakakuha ng mga sketch ng mga connections and ano pong wires ang dapat na nasa loob ung mga yellow, red??!! pa explain naman po

kuyaneo · « **Reply #68 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:40:32 PM »

Quote from: niwrad_nagnap on June 08, 2007, 08:38:06 PM

sir, d ko talaga maintindihan!!!! .. mga sir pano po ba gumawa? san makakakuha ng mga sketch ng mga connections and ano pong wires ang dapat na nasa loob ung mga yellow, red??!! pa explain naman po

anmo sir ba yung tinutukoy mo?

danj0 · « **Reply #69 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:42:43 PM »

hmm kelangan mo siguro magstart from scratch.. may post si sir BAMF about a book eh.. magandang magsimula dun.. andun na lahat.. yung wires.. sa akin, wala, basta wires.. pero ang alam ko may nakaassign na color din.. para organized..

at mejo tama si sir BAMF eh, d ke basta bastang makakastart sa paggawa nang effects.. kelangan magbasa basa muna

sabay na tyo, mejo magsisimula ulit ako eh.. tagal ko huling nagelectronics stuff..

kuyaneo · « **Reply #70 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:49:02 PM »

sa wires you need a gauge 24 or 22. iba iba naman colors nun para lang mas organized siya

Blueberri · « **Reply #71 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:54:00 PM »

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sir, d ko talaga maintindihan!!!! .. mga sir pano po ba gumawa? san makakakuha ng mga sketch ng mga connections and ano pong wires ang dapat na nasa loob ung mga yellow, red??!! pa explain naman po

sir, if your worrying about the colors of the wires...i think there's a lot you need to read up on..hehe
lets start with this...can you wire a strat, not because you know where the wires go, but you understand why they have to go there?? I think its important that you try to understand the schematics...not just building something by looking where wires go.

start from the basics...understand how volume knobs work, how tone knobs work (it isnt too different how they work on your guitar and on an efx pedal, uhhhm...i think,hehe.)...then move forward from there.

its great, may ganitong places we can go and ask...a few weeks ago i was just lurking around in the other DIY pedal thread...ngaun I just built my own and it works!!!

cooool!!!!

titser_marco · « **Reply #72 on:** June 08, 2007, 08:58:19 PM »

Here's a nice set of tools for yall:

http://www.moyerelectronics.com/index.shtml?http://www.moyerelectronics.com/FreeDownLoads/

paquitz · « **Reply #73 on:** June 08, 2007, 10:03:58 PM »

Ok po tong topic nyo. I think i will learn a lot. Good work guys. Sa wakas there is still hope for those like me that don't have gas.

ubersam · « **Reply #74 on:** June 09, 2007, 01:54:11 AM »

Quote from: kuyaneo on June 08, 2007, 01:25:23 PM

pcb etching 101
by kuyaneo
ito yung way na nakasanayan ko. maami pagn ibang ways dyan na mas mahal or mas mura
mga kialangan:
...

Nice work on the tutorial. I use press-n-peel iron-on toner transfer when I feel like etching. I want to try the photosensitive boards sometime. I usually just build on perf board because it is quicker for me and I don't always have time to etch. BTW, akala ko yung #4 ay gin. I was going to say that I prefer beer

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