Tips on how to learn jazz

[aya_yuson]

Do something about the world around you.

Feed the homeless. (Don't give them money, though. Just feed them.) Give them clothes to wear.

Feed homeless animals, like street dogs & street cats.

It's not what you play or how you play it. It's who you are.

[william251082]

Do something about the world around you.

Feed the homeless. (Don't give them money, though. Just feed them.) Give them clothes to wear.

Feed homeless animals, like street dogs & street cats.

It's not what you play or how you play it. It's who you are.

This is so right …

It’s not always about you and the guitar,  you have to live your life.
Stop watching tv and reading ads for a moment, read good books and some poetry instead or go to art museums.
Ask yourself  “Is there anything really important in music that I’ve forgotten about?”
Reflect…

[william251082]

Search for depth somewhere within this shallow-minded world...

[jeff_proX40]

Wow getting deeper and deeper ah..

[aya_yuson]

William,

I see you've read Mick Goodrick's The Advancing Guitarist. Kewl. Love that book. 

Jeff,

Dapat lang!

The Universe is expanding.

(... well, it's actually breathing... but right now it seems to be inhaling, hence the apparent expansion.)

[william251082]

William,

I see you've read Mick Goodrick's The Advancing Guitarist. Kewl. Love that book. 

Jeff,

Dapat lang!

The Universe is expanding.

(... well, it's actually breathing... but right now it seems to be inhaling, hence the apparent expansion.)

hahahaha
You recognized it, love that book too.

[rjtorres]

hahahaha
You recognized it, love that book too.

I tried searching for this in the new fully booked store (which had a lot of rare finds), but to no avail. Any of you can share where I can get this in the Philippines? Or you think this is worth enough buying online (for $15)? I'm not sure how much this is though here. 

[aya_yuson]

Pahiram ko na lang sa yo. Kopyahin mo na lang.

[rjtorres]

Talaga? Astig Sige. 

Pahiram ko na lang sa yo. Kopyahin mo na lang.

[william251082]

Start to play and listen A LOT!!! It'll take endless hours of playing with someone who's really good. Jazz is extremely difficult especially for guitarists because of how the instrument is built and how we're used to play it before. And I'm talking about real jazz not those endless-eight-note-bad-rhythm kind of jazz that a lot of people do then consider it as 'jazz'. At least if you're serious enough on getting some fluency with the language.

[jeff_proX40]

Listen!!!! Listen!!!! Listen!!!! The best way to learn is to Listen!!! hehehe peace out...

[grey3005]

Listen!!!! Listen!!!! Listen!!!! The best way to learn is to Listen!!! hehehe peace out...

tama! listen and watch some instructional videos of various jazz artist! 

[jamesroy]

William,

I see you've read Mick Goodrick's The Advancing Guitarist. Kewl. Love that book. 

Jeff,

Dapat lang!

The Universe is expanding.

(... well, it's actually breathing... but right now it seems to be inhaling, hence the apparent expansion.)

uy pakopya din ako niyan! 

sana makadaan ako mamaya gig niyo sa shang kung maaga matapos appointment. nakasabay ko si sir tots kasama ka daw niya sa wonders mamaya?

[aya_yuson]

tama! listen and watch some instractional videos of various jazz artist! 

"Instructional" po.

[aya_yuson]

uy pakopya din ako niyan! 

sana makadaan ako mamaya gig niyo sa shang kung maaga matapos appointment. nakasabay ko si sir tots kasama ka daw niya sa wonders mamaya?

James,

Oo ba.

Hindi kami magkasama ni Niyor Tots sa Wonders, brad. We just met up outside the casino so i could hand him the music sheets for last Sunday's gig.

[william251082]

Get down to the reality of playing jazz! Use your ear immediately! Too much theory are for lazy amateur non-players. Theories were just partly true in books, in the bandstand, not at all. Listen, play, communicate

[grey3005]

"Instructional" po.

sorry, nagkamali lang ng lagay! :-)salamat po sa pagcorrect aya_yuson!

listen lang muna talaga to jazz music!:-D

[william251082]

You wanna learn jazz? Play a Charlie Parker, John Coltrane , Miles davis and the likes record, if you listen well enough they're going to teach you so much more than all the theory books and jazz books you can buy.

LISTEN TO PLAYERS NOT TO THE PRETENDERS!!!

There's no shortcut in playing jazz, hearing it is probably the shortest way to gain some fluency in this language. Study now, hear later is NEVER gonna work.

And I meant true listening and internalizing it because anybody who can play the instrument can play endless eight-notes then call it 'jazz'. This is the reason why a lot of amateur always sounds funny, you sometimes hear someone who play some complicated stuff but can't continue from that. That just means that that certain idea didn't really came from a player trying to tell a story but he's just throwing out some licks.

[deriru]

huhu i want to play jazz
but i dont know how....
my mga instructional videos po ba para sa jazz drums???
yung available dto sa pinas

[aya_yuson]

You wanna learn jazz? Play a Charlie Parker, John Coltrane , Miles davis and the likes record, if you listen well enough they're going to teach you so much more than all the theory books and jazz books you can buy.

LISTEN TO PLAYERS NOT TO THE PRETENDERS!!!

There's no shortcut in playing jazz, hearing it is probably the shortest way to gain some fluency in this language. Study now, hear later is NEVER gonna work.

And I meant true listening and internalizing it because anybody who can play the instrument can play endless eight-notes then call it 'jazz'. This is the reason why a lot of amateur always sounds funny, you sometimes hear someone who play some complicated stuff but can't continue from that. That just means that that certain idea didn't really came from a player trying to tell a story but he's just throwing out some licks.

Hmmm... speaking of amateurish-ness...

Perhaps you meant eighth notes rather than eight notes, Sir William.

Talk's cheap, sir.

Walk the walk. It goes further towards teaching than does all these words.

c",)

[nujnujnuj]

listening is not enough!! 
syempre basics muna.
basic techniques like sliding, adding chromatic notes.
try adding flats and sharps at the 2nd octave.

[higad]

wow. nice thread! ngayon na lang ulit ako nagka-time magbasa basa ng threads dito sa philmusic. Wala na kasi ako sa dating trabaho na 8 hours akong naka-internet araw-araw eh

anyways.. siguro mas okay kung may magbibigay kayo na certain song at kung anong type ng jazz yung kanta na yun.

ex. bebop - "title of the song-artist"

kasi mismong ako.. hindi ko alam kung anong type yung pinapakinggan ko eh. baka mamaya pogijazz pala ako. hehe
eto mga sample ng nasa playlist ko:
david benoit & freeman project - smartypants
david weckl - the chicken(favorite)
steely dan - hey nineteen, black cow, peg, deacon blues
wes montgomery - far wes, leila, summertime, monk's shop
michael franks - popsicle toes, eggplant (favorite)
john pizzareli - i got rhytym
some billie holiday and ella fitzgerald
norah jones, diana krall

wala pa akong idea sa mga styles/types nila kaya pag may nagustuhan akong style.. tulad nung sa the chicken, di ko alam kung ano pa yung ibang katunog nya.
common problem siguro to ng beginners kaya sana matulungan nyo ako at yung iba pa
   

[william251082]

EXERCISE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!

[william251082]

Theory is nice too but if you don't combine it with true listening, now... fagetaboutit!
- Mike Stern

"80% of what I play were just chord tones, I just variate it rhythmically and phrase it in an interesting manner."
- Pat Metheny

Knowing the analysis is not enough to make music.
- Jimmy Bruno

[raymondhernandez]

Though jazz theory is not necessary to play jazz, it will be of great help. Some people say that in jazz, you have to play what you hear. I am ok with that.

I am no jazzer, but I appreciate the theories. It helped me to become a deeper player (note: I meant deeper compared to what I was before not to other players). Don't get me wrong, I do not think of theories while I am playing. I use it when I practice. In that way, I be able to truly express myself when I am behind the keys.

Skip theory? Maybe, if you are as talented as the jazz greats. But for those who are passionate to express themselves through improvisation but lacks the gift like the greats, theories will be a great help.

Play what you hear? I wish I could do that. I wish I could easily hear the 32nd and 64th notes in a Thelonious Monk tune (Sir Aya, just correct my spelling.  ). It's not easy to assume the notes that they use especially if you have 88 keys in front of you.

Amateur? Someone has to start somewhere. Everybody started as a student. No one can claim that they just sat down and started playing those complicated yet beautiful tunes. They listened. They studied. They practiced. They have their own set of theories based on their understanding. I believe that once a person try to look out for patterns and tries to understand it, they are creating theories for themselves.