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Title: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 23, 2007, 10:12:09 AM
this is not a diss against the digitech bad monkey.....rumored to be a PERFECT replacement for a ts808.

i tried one at a music store the other day ( guitar center- el toro ). it is DIFFERENT, the similarities are 50-60%.

i felt kinda relieved, coz a few months ago i shelled a serious amount to buy the reissue, which rumored to sound different to a vintage ts 808. to realize that i spent too much mula on an overdrive, then to find a $39 ts808 clone would be a total bummer. :-D

i'm not sayin it sucked, it's just diffferent. the BM has the potential to become it's own monster. compared to the ts 808 though, it's not as clear and tubing sounding IMHO....but good enough!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vaisteen2003 on February 23, 2007, 10:24:06 AM
this is not a diss against the digitech bad monkey.....rumored to be a PERFECT replacement for a ts808.

i tried one at a music store the other day ( guitar center- el toro ). it is DIFFERENT, the similarities are 50-60%.

i felt kinda relieved, coz a few months ago i shelled a serious amount to buy the reissue, which rumored to sound different to a vintage ts 808. to realize that i spent too much mula on an overdrive, then to find a $39 ts808 clone would be a total bummer. :-D

i'm not sayin it sucked, it's just diffferent. the BM has the potential to become it's own monster. compared to the ts 808 though, it's not as clear and tubing sounding IMHO....but good enough!

for an inexperienced OD user like me i have to say that BM is good enough to be his own monster.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Boosted on February 23, 2007, 10:25:56 AM
i like my bad monkey :) tried ts9 pati ung may dx.. sa gcsf and samash sa cerritos. ung hinahanap ko na tunog nasa baaaad monkey. :)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Poundcake on February 23, 2007, 10:41:55 AM
welcome back, pareng Jon!

it really depends on our preferences :) i use the Bad Monkey as a backup "ngongo" drive pedal and i sold my TS-808 because of it (and my trusty ol' HBE Power Screamer).. of course, the TS-808 can definitely capture the SRV tone better than the Bad Monkey, but the BM has just this smooth sound that makes it worth the $39.95 + tax :)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Kulas on February 23, 2007, 10:58:49 AM
uy? binenta mo na si power screamer?

ako my opinion on the badmonkey, yeah, it's good enough for me. i was satisfied na with my badmonkey until i got an offer for a TS-9 which i just had to take, hehe. upon getting home, i A/B-ed the pedals, to my dismay, they're almost the same. mas clear lang yung TS-9 and mas "analog" yung tone, pero the badmonkey is a close second, actually parang kaya pa habulin with the more flexible controls on the badmonkey. so yun i sold the badmonkey and kept the TS-9. mali ko i should've kept both na lang, sarap nun pag cascaded eh, SRV baybeh!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Poundcake on February 23, 2007, 11:02:01 AM
uy di noh.. mahal ko si Power Screamer, di ko ibebenta yun hehe. yun pati BM ang reasons why binenta ko na yung TS-808
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Kulas on February 23, 2007, 11:09:36 AM
uy di noh.. mahal ko si Power Screamer, di ko ibebenta yun hehe. yun pati BM ang reasons why binenta ko na yung TS-808

kala ko binenta mo eh, hehe. kala ko ok ka na sa "upgrade complete" mo, hahaha!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Poundcake on February 23, 2007, 11:13:28 AM
uy di noh.. mahal ko si Power Screamer, di ko ibebenta yun hehe. yun pati BM ang reasons why binenta ko na yung TS-808

kala ko binenta mo eh, hehe. kala ko ok ka na sa "upgrade complete" mo, hahaha!

haha! saka na muna ako mag-uupgrade pre, "we require more minerals" muna e haha!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: alroyT on February 23, 2007, 11:13:45 AM
I have both the reissue 808 and the BM.Right now the 808 is under my bed gathering dust.I say the extra bass knob for the BM made the difference because I could tell whenever I use it to push my mesa OD,its smoother and more sustainey compared to the 808 reissue.Imagine if the BM had a mid tone knob?
The BM deserves another banana  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 23, 2007, 11:29:07 AM
just in case you guys didnt read what i posted....

i said the BM's got it's own sound.....comparisons to a ts808, kaunti lang. kasi that's what i read at harmony central, na sobrang huli daw ang tunog ng ts808.

not a diss, but i really think hindi nya huli ang 808. but it's a good pedal.

like poundcake said, depende sa preferences mo. ako kasi diehard srv fan e. sa pandinig ko, mas fuzzy sound ang BM kesa 808. that doesnt mean it's BAD, ok? :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Bart on February 23, 2007, 11:31:28 AM
Anything that's monkey is good. Like spanking it, for example. It has provided countless hours of solitary entertainment when I was in my early teens.
I got nothing against Bad Monkey either. Rock on.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Phil on February 23, 2007, 12:29:21 PM
Anything that's monkey is good. Like spanking it, for example. It has provided countless hours of solitary entertainment when I was in my early teens.
I got nothing against Bad Monkey either. Rock on.
chickens are good too....... you either choke it or wank it.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 23, 2007, 01:04:11 PM
Anything that's monkey is good. Like spanking it, for example. It has provided countless hours of solitary entertainment when I was in my early teens.
I got nothing against Bad Monkey either. Rock on.
chickens are good too....... you either choke it or wank it.

like is said the BM has the potential to be a monster....one eyed monster that is. :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Bart on February 23, 2007, 01:09:55 PM
Anything that's monkey is good. Like spanking it, for example. It has provided countless hours of solitary entertainment when I was in my early teens.
I got nothing against Bad Monkey either. Rock on.
chickens are good too....... you either choke it or wank it.

like is said the BM has the potential to be a monster....one eyed monster that is. :-D


And BM do have its own sound. Especially when loose.
Putcha, palayo na nang palayo ah. :lol:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: lao on February 23, 2007, 01:32:59 PM
ipon ng money para sa bad monkey!!! tube sceamers arent that bad din naman :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: ejbasses on February 23, 2007, 01:51:35 PM
ako ang favorite ko sa BM yung ultimate double burger  :?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vaisteen2003 on February 23, 2007, 01:55:32 PM
ako ang favorite ko sa BM yung ultimate double burger  :?

ok sana un kaya lang ang nipis ng patty(tama ba spelling???)...
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Bart on February 23, 2007, 02:34:45 PM
ako ang favorite ko sa BM yung ultimate double burger  :?

Me Burger Machine pa rin ba? Lakas ko dating kumain dun.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vaisteen2003 on February 23, 2007, 02:58:25 PM
ako ang favorite ko sa BM yung ultimate double burger  :?

Me Burger Machine pa rin ba? Lakas ko dating kumain dun.

mdami pa sir bart. lalo na sa mga provincial area. pero ganun pa din ung store nila.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: knightburn on February 23, 2007, 03:01:52 PM
I would take any Jumbo BM with Coleslaw anytime in my day...  :-D

* drool *  :lol:

On topic, I was able to to A/B the Digitech Bad Monkey with Ibanez' TS9 and they are almost the same. The TS-9 just has its analog like feel on it, more smooth sounding when boosting an amp or existing overdrive. Whereas the Bad Monkey, somewhat colors my sound... but the added Bass knob is where it really shines! Really a must for heavy to rock enthusiast guitarist.  I still kinda feel sometimes that this BM is digital... or maybe it's just me...

How A/B'ying it with SD-1? Anyone have tried that?  :wink:

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on February 23, 2007, 06:13:10 PM
I would take any Jumbo BM with Coleslaw anytime in my day...  :-D

* drool *  :lol:

On topic, I was able to to A/B the Digitech Bad Monkey with Ibanez' TS9 and they are almost the same. The TS-9 just has its analog like feel on it, more smooth sounding when boosting an amp or existing overdrive. Whereas the Bad Monkey, somewhat colors my sound... but the added Bass knob is where it really shines! Really a must for heavy to rock enthusiast guitarist.  I still kinda feel sometimes that this BM is digital... or maybe it's just me...

How A/B'ying it with SD-1? Anyone have tried that?  :wink:



I have both the SD1 and the BM... the SD1 has more gain and is in the trebly side of things... yung BM, i like the way it puts a lot of mids in the tone...agree ako ke B2D, its a different monster... TS808's has more gain as well, not sure yung orig na ts808, i only tried a reissue, fact is, mas close pa yung SD1 sa 808 kesa sa BM...
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: turiguiliano on February 24, 2007, 05:41:35 AM
wouldnt mind having both. hehe
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Chito on February 24, 2007, 06:56:44 AM
uy di noh.. mahal ko si Power Screamer, di ko ibebenta yun hehe. yun pati BM ang reasons why binenta ko na yung TS-808

Do you have the fat boost on your PS, Poundcake?

I also have the BM, SD1, BD2 but never had a TS9 or 808. I find them different is some ways but they're all in the TS9 family which for me are the pedals with the pronounced mids.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Poundcake on February 24, 2007, 09:13:35 AM
wouldnt mind having both. hehe

you wouldn't mind having all pedals in the world! pangarap mo yun diba? haha! :lol:


uy di noh.. mahal ko si Power Screamer, di ko ibebenta yun hehe. yun pati BM ang reasons why binenta ko na yung TS-808

Do you have the fat boost on your PS, Poundcake?

I also have the BM, SD1, BD2 but never had a TS9 or 808. I find them different is some ways but they're all in the TS9 family which for me are the pedals with the pronounced mids.

yup, my Power Screamer has the Fat Boost. i keep it on all the time :)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: ritch_079 on February 24, 2007, 11:24:14 AM
question po.. what do you think of digitech's tone driver? nasisimulate daw nya ung ts808 and ts9.. kaya ba talaga? mern ako xtd pero havnt tried the TS's.. so wla akong pang compare.. hehe
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dvd9 on May 11, 2007, 12:20:44 PM
any soundclips you have?anylinks?

planning to buy soon having second thoughts though kasi napakalayo ng PJC shop samin

yung demo sa website nila parang meron ng halo reverb e

i want to hear it plain na walang reverb

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vegetablejoe on May 11, 2007, 12:37:00 PM
set the BM's treble and drive controls to 1 o'clock and it mimics a TS-9 with its own controls set to 12 o'clock... TS-808 has a bit more grit which the BM doesn't rightfully match up against. imho...
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: wh1t33rick on May 11, 2007, 03:17:50 PM
 :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

So all of you are saying that Bad monkey is Good......? hehehe so that monkey pretends to be a siga wherein it is actually a saint....hehehehe :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Good thing I have 1 in the cage
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dvd9 on May 11, 2007, 03:53:05 PM
can the BM match Boss Dual overdrive SD-2 lead channel?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vaisteen2003 on May 11, 2007, 03:59:21 PM
can the BM match Boss Dual overdrive SD-2 lead channel?

nope it cant. maybe ung crunch channel ng SD 2 kya ung BM or vice versa. Theres just to much gain sa lead channel ng SD 2 compared sa gain ng BM.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dvd9 on May 11, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
can the BM match Boss Dual overdrive SD-2 lead channel?

nope it cant. maybe ung crunch channel ng SD 2 kya ung BM or vice versa. Theres just to much gain sa lead channel ng SD 2 compared sa gain ng BM.

thnx 4 d tip :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: knightburn on May 11, 2007, 07:31:12 PM
Yey for the Bad Monkey...!  :lol:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: paengkee on May 31, 2007, 01:24:22 AM
so its a GOOD monkey eh...

i want something with a little more gain..

screamin blues for me. :P
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: wh1t33rick on May 31, 2007, 07:46:15 AM
so its a GOOD monkey eh...

i want something with a little more gain..

screamin blues for me. :P

 :mrgreen: With matching Halo :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: aden on October 28, 2007, 10:09:35 AM
for the price, you can't go wrong with the BM...

bang for the buck!!

30 pesos lang busog ka na....hehe joke...
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dvd9 on October 28, 2007, 12:01:37 PM
ts808 is a monster too during it's time/era...you cannot compare the BM to it simply because it's a modern OD.

I can compare the BM to the BOSS OS-2 overdrive/distortion but not with the vintage tube overdrive ts808

there are totally different/ unique in their own very way
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: burnthyfret on October 28, 2007, 12:04:27 PM
magkano ba dito yun brand new na bad monkey? o baka may mga nagbebenta jan ng 2nd hand.. ahaha.. alin para sa inyo yun mas tunog tube.. bm o tubescreamer? etong 2 kasi pinagpipilian koh as a overdrive eh.. pero mas in favor akoh sa bm.. :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dvd9 on October 28, 2007, 12:07:28 PM
magkano ba dito yun brand new na bad monkey? o baka may mga nagbebenta jan ng 2nd hand.. ahaha.. alin para sa inyo yun mas tunog tube.. bm o tubescreamer? etong 2 kasi pinagpipilian koh as a overdrive eh.. pero mas in favor akoh sa bm.. :-D

mas tunog tube padin ang tubescreamer of course
Its not the grit but the roundness of the tone that tagged it to be tube sounding
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on October 29, 2007, 06:44:03 PM
hmm just wondering why sa TS808 compare yung BM.. I think its the TS9 is what its trying to "copy".
The TS808(at least the reissues Ive used) has more gain than that of the BM. The BM has a lot of mid's in it, that makes it sound round and warm. The TS9 and the BM are really very much close, when you do a blind A/B sound comparison on those 2 peds, I bet it will be very difficult to differentiate the 2 pedals.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vaisteen2003 on October 29, 2007, 11:26:58 PM
hmm just wondering why sa TS808 compare yung BM.. I think its the TS9 is what its trying to "copy".
The TS808(at least the reissues Ive used) has more gain than that of the BM. The BM has a lot of mid's in it, that makes it sound round and warm. The TS9 and the BM are really very much close, when you do a blind A/B sound comparison on those 2 peds, I bet it will be very difficult to differentiate the 2 pedals.

i was al praises with BM up until the time i tried a TS 9. I literally i got rid of the BM  the same minute I put my TS9 on my board, but for the money BM wins. for BM you get more than what you pay for actually but still Ts 9 is a TS 9.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on October 30, 2007, 06:36:53 AM
the bad monkey is inexpensive that's why it's a big favorite......but i will stick with my ts808 AND ts9dx...they are both good sounding pedals stock!

we have keelley modified boss and ibanez pedals in the store that i work for...it is required of me to try EVERY pedal in the store....

the verdict? keeley modded pedals are good, BUT very little difference...and there are lot of more choices out there...

in terms of overdrive/distortion pedals.....it's better to buy a boutique than to modify a pedal.....if youve got the boss or ibby pedals to begin with, i guess it's worth modding to them to breathe new life into them but as for buying a 'new' pedal? depending on your budget, go for gold and buy your ultimate purchase....your dream pedal.......

if money is not an option...i would buy a porsche.... :mrgreen:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawal on October 30, 2007, 07:02:48 AM
screamin blues nalang.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on October 30, 2007, 09:35:37 PM

i think its famous not simply because its cheap, it has its own place in the scheme of things... im using it as a boost for my FD2 and modded SD1, to give it more mids when soloing.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: polarized06 on October 30, 2007, 10:07:51 PM
im not a blues player (i want to be one though) and i havnt tried any of the TSxxx... but i love how my BM sounds with my silver dragon...more gain..more bang!  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dvd9 on October 30, 2007, 10:54:34 PM
screamin blues nalang.

dami nga sabi ok daw ito..
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Red_Strat on October 31, 2007, 12:59:23 AM
dami nga sabi ok daw ito..

Does the Screamin Blues have more gain?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: toybitz on October 31, 2007, 01:43:17 AM
Does the Screamin Blues have more gain?

although its still more of a boost pedal...the answer is "yep".
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawal on October 31, 2007, 05:55:48 AM
dami nga sabi ok daw ito..
talagang ok. though hindi nya kayang gayahin yung blues driver ng boss, pero good thing ay may mid-level boost ang screamin blues, at halos ganun din sya ka-creamy or ka-lagkit katulad ng bd2.

one thing: hindi gayang-gaya ng bad monkey ang ts9 (na siguro ineexpect ng majority rito). iba pa ring ang TS, pero the bad monkey is not "bad" at all. it has it's own "character" ika nga.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: spyroghyro on October 31, 2007, 03:01:17 PM
well for me BM and Screamin' Blues compliments each other. I tried the BD pero matapang for my taste. So nag-stick na lang ako sa screamin' blues but it doesn't mean na less ang drive ng screamin' blues depende rin kasi sa amp na gamit mo. Di ko gusto yung tunog pag solid state amp gamit ko pero pag tube amp, wow siya. But if you use the screamin blues as your dist and the BM as boost pedal galing ng tunog maybe because both have bass and high tweakability. IMHO
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: strummer on November 04, 2007, 09:23:33 PM
uy? binenta mo na si power screamer?

ako my opinion on the badmonkey, yeah, it's good enough for me. i was satisfied na with my badmonkey until i got an offer for a TS-9 which i just had to take, hehe. upon getting home, i A/B-ed the pedals, to my dismay, they're almost the same. mas clear lang yung TS-9 and mas "analog" yung tone, pero the badmonkey is a close second, actually parang kaya pa habulin with the more flexible controls on the badmonkey. so yun i sold the badmonkey and kept the TS-9. mali ko i should've kept both na lang, sarap nun pag cascaded eh, SRV baybeh!

tenks sa bad monkey piw. heheh. papamana ko na dapat to sa 'ading' ko binawi ko eh.. oks na oks. heheh. kaya balik siya sa pedal chain. yeba
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: chawi on November 12, 2007, 05:00:42 PM
may bad monkey na kmi dto sa pjc P2,500. 4 lng ang meron...
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: 6stringsamurai on February 08, 2008, 02:05:08 PM
i have a BM and a ts5. ganda nila pareho. the ts5 is fuzzier though. ayoko lang sa ts5 yung plastic na casing.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: old_iskul on February 08, 2008, 02:49:04 PM
I tried my BM (as main gain) after a  DS100 (as a boost),  nasal sounding, but when i added a digital delay, doon lumabas yung iba pang potential ng BM :-D Clarong claro yung crunch na gusto ko, the way I like it :mrgreen:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 08, 2008, 03:57:04 PM
the masses have spoken....the bad monkey is a good pedal!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: caloyburger on February 08, 2008, 06:05:46 PM
i agree!  just got one last week and i'm very happy with it.  very natural and fluid sounding.  ibang iba sa tubsecreamer at blues driver.   
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 09, 2008, 07:15:42 AM
but having said that....i still like my ts808 reissue, stock...

nabili ko kasi ito bago ko nalaman na may bad monkey pala.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: itchybrain on February 09, 2008, 08:09:37 AM

I just sold my BM last week..

.. because of a KAWAYAN ZDC!  :-D Happy. Can't wait.. Yum!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: batmanrocks on February 09, 2008, 08:18:06 AM
ako pinag sama ko un bad monkey at screaming blues.

ano po ba maganda na isama sa bad monkey para mabigat un tunog? pero un bad monkey yun booster ko.

thanks.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: namida on February 09, 2008, 10:00:48 AM
I've been using my badmonkey for more than 1 year now (thanks Poundcake!) and I must say that after disliking it at some point, it suits my style quite well. It may be a low gain pedal but by tweaking the tone knobs, you can get phat, in your face tones out of it. To my ears, it doesn't clean up that well with the volume knob of my guitars because I leave it on all the time, but I can live with it. As with any tool, learning how it works best will no doubt help you appreciate it  :-)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: doksplata on February 09, 2008, 03:29:28 PM
I just sold my BM last week..

.. because of a KAWAYAN ZDC!  :-D Happy. Can't wait.. Yum!

proud new owner hir! :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: joshnerez on February 09, 2008, 03:57:35 PM
gusto ko ng bumili ng bad monkey huhuhuhu  :cry:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: vaisteen2003 on February 09, 2008, 09:04:18 PM
I just sold my BM last week..

.. because of a KAWAYAN ZDC!  :-D Happy. Can't wait.. Yum!

uy ogie. you sold it na pala. yeah maganda nga ung ZDC. Sorry guiys OT na. ill be at PIMP on sunday.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: itchybrain on February 09, 2008, 09:10:35 PM
uy ogie. you sold it na pala. yeah maganda nga ung ZDC. Sorry guiys OT na. ill be at PIMP on sunday.

Yep. But when I saw this thread I kinda missed it.

Isnif.

 :|

OT:
Sorry, Papa Leo, mukhang malabo ako sa PIMP this sunday. Inabutan ako ng mga tinatatakasang deadlines... :-(
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dalandan on February 17, 2008, 08:42:00 PM
first pedal ko ever ang bad monkey!

mga sir, ano opinion niyong magandang pair sa BM?

ts808 (clone kasi mahal yung reissue!)
DS-1 (kung modded please specify)
Digitech Screamin' Blues
OTHERS (pls specify din)

thanks a lot! :D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: itchybrain on February 17, 2008, 09:51:07 PM
first pedal ko ever ang bad monkey!

mga sir, ano opinion niyong magandang pair sa BM?

ts808 (clone kasi mahal yung reissue!)
DS-1 (kung modded please specify)
Digitech Screamin' Blues
OTHERS (pls specify din)

thanks a lot! :D

My Bad Monkey sounded great with my Blues Driver. "Sounded" because Doksplata bought my BM na. :-D

Sabi nga ni BAMF, "Ok pang-boost ang BM sa BD mo."  :-)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: 6stringsamurai on February 18, 2008, 01:09:07 AM
what are your opinions on the zendrive?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawayan_strat on February 18, 2008, 06:01:34 AM
what are your opinions on the zendrive?
A totally different pedal! :|
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: itchybrain on February 18, 2008, 06:06:51 AM
what are your opinions on the zendrive?

I'm no tone afficionado, bro, but I can say that I'm happy with Kawayan's ZDC. Been playing around with it since I got it last saturday. Kung pwede ko lang dalhin sa trabaho ito..:-D

It's the first time, in my noobie guitarist life, that the notes come out clear even with overdrive. Kung baga sa photography, its gain has a wide latitude. It's something in-between my Boss Blues Driver and my old Boss Turbo Distortion minus the burak. And there's this knob called "voice." I'm still tinkering with it and trying to figure out what it is but when that knob is at 12 o'clock there's a certain kind of sweetness and crunch in the tone. Well, gotta ask Kawayan for that. :-D

Though my experience in Tube Overdrives and Distortion Pedals is still on the "honeymoon stage" , the ZDC gives justice to the tone/s in my mind's ear-- SRV-slash-Hendrix-with-the-less-mud tone.

Kawayan just forgot one last detail: my knobs that go up to 11. :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 18, 2008, 06:56:05 AM
hey kawayan........i want a ZDC!!!! do you ship to the US?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawayan_strat on February 18, 2008, 07:20:56 AM
hey kawayan........i want a ZDC!!!! do you ship to the US?
Patay tayo jan! Check ko muna rates,then PM kita.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 18, 2008, 07:27:11 AM
no worries....syempre ako magbayad ng shipping, wether fedex or whatever.....pm moko ha?

tnx!!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawayan_strat on February 18, 2008, 01:47:21 PM
no worries....syempre ako magbayad ng shipping, wether fedex or whatever.....pm moko ha?

tnx!!
Ok sir. :-)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: chito_eoi on February 18, 2008, 02:56:03 PM
hey kawayan........i want a ZDC!!!! do you ship to the US?

dumadami na tayo Boss Jon!
one of the reason why i got a ZDC = mas maganda tunog nya sa SD2  :-D

...teka ot pala ko  :-o

/takbo
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 18, 2008, 08:27:09 PM
dumadami na tayo Boss Jon!
one of the reason why i got a ZDC = mas maganda tunog nya sa SD2  :-D

...teka ot pala ko  :-o

/takbo


ok ang bad monkey, para hindi OT....cguro pag maganda ang kita ko ng kaunti at may kotse na ako dito sa america.....bibili ako just so that i got one in my arsenal...

but i want one of those kramtone ZDC....ayus!!!!!hehehe OT pa din
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: 6stringsamurai on February 18, 2008, 11:16:19 PM
Ok sir. :-)

sir kawayan pa pm kung magkano po yung ZDC. thanks!  :-)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawayan_strat on February 19, 2008, 05:10:55 AM
ok ang bad monkey, para hindi OT....cguro pag maganda ang kita ko ng kaunti at may kotse na ako dito sa america.....bibili ako just so that i got one in my arsenal...

but i want one of those kramtone ZDC....ayus!!!!!hehehe OT pa din
sir kawayan pa pm kung magkano po yung ZDC. thanks!  :-)
Naku sobrang Ot na to. PM niyo nalang ako,or dun mag post sa ZDC thread.

Ok din naman yung BM. IMO,mas malapit siya sa TS9 kaysa TS808. Mas pogi tunog ng 808,IMO.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: spankyrigor on February 19, 2008, 12:01:46 PM
mr kawayan strat: please PM me regarding the price of your ZDC. thanks. :)

on topic: astig ang bad monkey when used infront of a double drive. nasty dynamics! spongy and tight at the same time!!  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dalandan on February 20, 2008, 12:45:10 PM
the bad monkey is a nice pedal on its own. it's my first pedal and the two tone knobs help fix the sound to your specs. para sa akin medyo ma-mid siya masyado pero not too much. :)

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 20, 2008, 12:57:26 PM
funny, i started this thread wanting to learn about the bad monkey...

and i end up buying a ZDC  :-D

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: pipo on February 20, 2008, 01:14:47 PM
Mga grand masters. Diba may Line out ang Bm for P.A./Mixer?
May nakatry na ba sa inyo?ok ba tunog pag direct sa p.a.?

Thanks. :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kawayan_strat on February 20, 2008, 05:04:10 PM
funny, i started this thread wanting to learn about the bad monkey...

and i end up buying a ZDC  :-D


I just sold my BM last week..

.. because of a KAWAYAN ZDC!  :-D Happy. Can't wait.. Yum!
Eto yung culprit na nag segue. :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: itchybrain on February 20, 2008, 05:07:00 PM
Wha..huh?! Who me?! :-D

Oshige, para 'di OT:

I love my BM. Too bad I sold it.

:-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: batmanrocks on February 29, 2008, 02:14:05 AM
whoo. BM ang first pedal ko. ngayon meron na ako BM at isang DS-2 hehe. bentats ko na yung screaming blues ko..
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on February 29, 2008, 05:44:41 AM
you can never have too many overdrive/distortion pedals in your arsenal. :-D

the owner of the store where i teach and my coteacher has more than three gain pedals in their pedalboard alone.

timmys,zendrive1&2,lil green wonder,sansamp,....it's really ridiculous...

but then again...i already have 2 tubescreamers on mine and pretty soon the zdc and a tonebone trimode ...

makakuha na nga din ng bad monkey....dapat may endorsement deal na to :lol:

mura, hinusgahan na maganda ang tunog galing mismo sa bibig ng mga philmusic forumites addictis....

coming soon boys! :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: gainsucker on February 29, 2008, 06:44:45 AM
you can never have too many overdrive/distortion pedals in your arsenal. :-D

the owner of the store where i teach and my coteacher has more than three gain pedals in their pedalboard alone.

timmys,zendrive1&2,lil green wonder,sansamp,....it's really ridiculous...

but then again...i already have 2 tubescreamers on mine and pretty soon the zdc and a tonebone trimode ...

makakuha na nga din ng bad monkey....dapat may endorsement deal na to :lol:

mura, hinusgahan na maganda ang tunog galing mismo sa bibig ng mga philmusic forumites addictis....

coming soon boys! :-D

ako din...  :evil:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: spankyrigor on February 29, 2008, 11:26:36 AM
funny, i started this thread wanting to learn about the bad monkey...

and i end up buying a ZDC  :-D



i can trade you my BM for your ZDC if it makes you feel better.  :-D :lol:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: itchybrain on February 29, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
i can trade you my BM for your ZDC if it makes you feel better.  :-D :lol:

Hehehehe. :-D Order ka na rin ng ZDC, Spanky.  :wink:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: dalandan on March 21, 2008, 08:54:53 PM
sir blues2death, i own both the zdc and the bad monkey. alam mo, get them both. :)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: markv on March 22, 2008, 01:21:31 AM
TS9 vs Badmonkey ---------> BADMONKEY ako boto!
Badmonkey vs Maxon OD9 --> aba, ibang usapan na yan hehehe! :D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: arkeetar on April 20, 2008, 04:55:48 PM
i want a bad monkey!  :-D

sale na sa pjc! hehe 20% off  :evil:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: caloyburger on April 20, 2008, 07:27:32 PM
TS9 vs Badmonkey ---------> BADMONKEY ako boto!

+10000000000
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on May 01, 2008, 10:47:36 AM
i beg to disagree caloy burger
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: knightburn on May 01, 2008, 11:35:38 AM
I think in 15-20 years time, the Digitech Bad Monkey will be one the sought after pedal in Ebay.  :mrgreen:

My BM never leaves my board.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on May 01, 2008, 01:27:51 PM
that's fine bro...

and i wont disagree with that.

the ts9 and/or ts808...vintage or reissue or even modded would never be upstaged by the bad monkey even if it's a wonderful pedal.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: oist on May 01, 2008, 08:30:50 PM
hmmm.... maka try nga ng ts.

ok naman for me yung bad monkey. panga lawa ko na nga yung gamit ko ngayon eh. hinayang ako nung binenta ko yung una. ahehehehe.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 02, 2008, 12:06:38 AM
dahil sa thread na to... bili na ko ng monkey
la ko pera pambili ng 808 lalo na yun zen...
kaya bili na ko bukas! yehey!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: arkeetar on May 03, 2008, 01:39:01 AM
rock! bad monkey... ayoko ng nga patayin hehe explore ko pa cya kung anu pwede ko magawang combination ng tones with other pedals  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: jellogz on May 03, 2008, 06:29:03 AM
OT  :-D

kung buhay pa kya srv? ano kya ang opinion nya dito? :mrgreen:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: stgmd on May 03, 2008, 10:22:37 AM
I think in 15-20 years time, the Digitech Bad Monkey will be one the sought after pedal in Ebay.  :mrgreen:

I agree. You wont know baka by that time may re-issue na siya at marked up na yun price.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: skrumian on May 03, 2008, 10:44:17 AM
mga sirs, magkano ito at san makakabili? wanna try it for a difference. mukha naman maganda ang mga reviews. anyway, i just own od1 and wanna check this stuff.  :wink:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: stringman on May 03, 2008, 11:18:49 AM
2.5k brand new sa audiophile.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: jimny on May 03, 2008, 05:38:14 PM
pjc store may sale sila
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: skrumian on May 03, 2008, 06:03:23 PM
^^ ano po yung pjc store?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: stgmd on May 03, 2008, 06:26:07 PM
^^ ano po yung pjc store?

Music store sa may ortigas. may digitech pedals sila dun. Nakasale ung badmonkey.
Search mo dito sa forum.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 03, 2008, 08:11:56 PM
i just got my bad monkey! yehey! hehehe! ayus! astig na overdrive! galit na galit yung distortion nya kapag may hm-100 before bad monkey... hehehe!

ano ba magandang mix sa bad monkey... before and after connections??

kapag connect ko sya before hm-100 para pang boost, add gain lang sya sa hm-100... so not much different sa original sound ng hm-100

pero kapag bad monkey after hm-100... malagkit yung distortion na produce nila... hehehe!

ano pa experience nyo sa mix ng bad monkey? san nyo ba sya ginagamit? boost lang ba sya? or main dirt?

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: tejadster on May 03, 2008, 11:18:18 PM
i beg to disagree caloy burger
me to.. i disagree... ts-9 is better than a bad monkey..
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 04, 2008, 03:55:26 AM
pwede ba i-mod ang badmonkey para maging better sya sa stock na ts9 or 808? hehehe! para at least affordable good pedal sya... :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on May 04, 2008, 08:45:04 AM
any overdrive pedal can be modified to be better than a ts808 or ts9...

even the ts9 itself can be modified to be better sounding than a ts stock ts9

man, daming followers ang bad monkey. i just started this thread to ask about the BM... i already have  a ts9dx and ts 808 both of which are stock..easy to please naman ako e

owning a bad monkey is not on my list though. affordable sya than a ts9 or ts 808, i doubt it's better tonewise. but for the money, it's not bad.

sa mga barkada dito sa socal, i havent seen anyone who owns a BM.

but because of this thread, may 10 na cgurong bumili...... i should get royalties from digitech for starting this damn thread.

soundclips guys?
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: markv on May 04, 2008, 09:38:31 AM
@blues2death, may soundclip sa digitech site ;)

what i liked about the bad monkey is when the gain is set to minimum.. it tends to have more dynamics and lesser gain when drive is at zero... + it has a treble+bass control which i found to be very flexible & compensate more to amps at diff. venues, compared to a regular TS.

TS9 vs BM --> i'd choose a BM
OD9 vs BM --> OD9 is better, and warmer & more natural sounding than TS9 or BM. It made the TS9 & BM sounds generic..

what you would hate about BM it is it's footswitch! It's like stepping on a sofa :lol:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 04, 2008, 12:09:56 PM
hehehe! i guess i'll stick to my bad monkey... kasi la ko pera pambili ng kahit anong tube screamer... kahit second hand na TS di ko kaya... kaya BM na lang... ang behringer may clones din sila ng ts808 and ts9... pero syempre... dun na ko sa bakal yung built...  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on May 04, 2008, 12:54:48 PM
bro....don't diss the ts808 or ts9... coz the only bad thing about them is the price.

i won't diss the bad monkey, but i have my own things to say about the bad monkey.

i was entered to play this contest "king of the blues" at guitar center...

i lived in laguna hills and i had my pedalboard at a friend's house in glendale. pretty long drive. and having no car at the time, there was no way i could go to his house to pick it up.

having no pedals on hand, i opted to buy the bad monkey so i don't have to ride the train get my pedals.

when i tested the bad monkey... i just didn't like it. returned it and ended up borrowing a friend's fulltone drive pedal plugged into a peavey classic. nevertheless i didn't qualify for the semis because of a confusion that i look liked another contestant....but that is a different story.

now i am not saying the bad monkey is a bum pedal. i liked my ts9 dx and ts 808 better....

the bm is not built to imitate the tubescreamer, but hey...it's green!

dissing another pedal to build up another one isnt the way to go.

i like my pedal better...and that is that..if you like the BM better...good for you.

respect.
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: knightburn on May 04, 2008, 12:56:44 PM
Bad Monkey is getting a lot of praise in Harmony Central. MarKV is correct, footswitch is kinda soft... missing that normal 'click' effect. but the sound.... d*mn... very tight and punchy. I've tried using this as a stand alone drive on Live setting and it really rocks.

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: arkeetar on May 04, 2008, 01:15:20 PM
yup... verrrryyyy soooft  :-D
compare to a boss pedal> sensitive sa pressure
and i hate the switch of the bm, its just like the ones with the zoom multi effects... kailangan medyo maingat...  :-D
but i own one hehe
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 04, 2008, 02:16:38 PM
bro....don't diss the ts808 or ts9... coz the only bad thing about them is the price.

i won't diss the bad monkey, but i have my own things to say about the bad monkey.

i was entered to play this contest "king of the blues" at guitar center...

i lived in laguna hills and i had my pedalboard at a friend's house in glendale. pretty long drive. and having no car at the time, there was no way i could go to his house to pick it up.

having no pedals on hand, i opted to buy the bad monkey so i don't have to ride the train get my pedals.

when i tested the bad monkey... i just didn't like it. returned it and ended up borrowing a friend's fulltone drive pedal plugged into a peavey classic. nevertheless i didn't qualify for the semis because of a confusion that i look liked another contestant....but that is a different story.

now i am not saying the bad monkey is a bum pedal. i liked my ts9 dx and ts 808 better....

the bm is not built to imitate the tubescreamer, but hey...it's green!

dissing another pedal to build up another one isnt the way to go.

i like my pedal better...and that is that..if you like the BM better...good for you.

respect.

im not dissing the ts9 or ts808 for my BM... im just saying that i bought BM because i cant afford tubescreamers... pero kung afford ko naman ang TS, then why not... thats all... i just want a good, heavy duty, transparent, cheap overdrive...

nakasubok na ko ng ts9... its more transparent... a good overdrive too! but like i said... cant afford

as for the BM, may high and low eq sya, so versatile... IMHO, the BM is similar to Tubescreamers in terms of that its an overdrive and they add tube like character to your tone... for the sound... not a clone! kanya kanyang taste pa din... :-D

ipapa-mod ko na lang BM ko para better sya sa tubescreamer! hehehe!!

peace!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: agsmd793 on May 04, 2008, 05:55:50 PM
pwede ba i-mod ang badmonkey para maging better sya sa stock na ts9 or 808? hehehe! para at least affordable good pedal sya... :-D

http://tonejamfx.com/spankdmonkey.html (http://tonejamfx.com/spankdmonkey.html)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: caloyburger on May 05, 2008, 01:43:38 AM
me to.. i disagree... ts-9 is better than a bad monkey..

IMHO,

i also have a TS9 (stock) and i agree that it's a good pedal but it could be better.  things i don't like about it are:  midrange hump on all settings, a little weak on the bass, i feel its not transparent enough.  what i like about it though is that it's an excellent boost pedal and good combo to a slightly dirty amp. 

i know i could have it modified but i decided to spend the cash on the bad monkey to see what the rave was about.  things i like about it?  warmer overdrive esp. with a strat, can be used as a stand alone, more transparency, great pair to a slightly dirty amp, and thank god for the bass control.  no plans of modifying it and for the price; two thumbs up!     
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: juan sinko on May 05, 2008, 03:29:06 AM
i love this pedal it made my SD1 more louder and crisp hehehehe
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kune_km on May 05, 2008, 09:01:13 AM
im very satisfied with my BM.

VIVA BAD MONKEY!!!!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: juan sinko on May 05, 2008, 09:04:00 AM
yung kapal ng highgain na distortion nakuha ko na sa bad monkey and sd1 hehe i am complete hehehehehehe
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: blues2death on May 05, 2008, 09:57:27 AM
bakit nasama ang od9 dito markv?
i thought it was about the BM?

pls dont take offense markv, just messing with you. :-D

Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: markv on May 05, 2008, 10:03:12 AM
bakit nasama ang od9 dito markv?
i thought it was about the BM?

pls dont take offense markv, just messing with you. :-D


wala naman, since the bad monkey is a clone of a tubescreamer... i think it would be helpful for others if at least compared to where the BM was cloned from. Just a basis/guide.. ;)

Maxon kasi ung 'real' tubescreamers (od808 & od9)
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: strummer on May 05, 2008, 12:04:26 PM
hehehe! i guess i'll stick to my bad monkey... kasi la ko pera pambili ng kahit anong tube screamer... kahit second hand na TS di ko kaya... kaya BM na lang... ang behringer may clones din sila ng ts808 and ts9... pero syempre... dun na ko sa bakal yung built...  :-D

...and now another bad monkey owner. heheh. thanks for the deal bro! enjoy!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 05, 2008, 09:56:16 PM
actualy this thread made me easier to decide in buying bad monkey... hehehe! but this thread is actually started that this pedal is not a clone of ts808...

IMO, sir blues2death is right... it is 50-60% similar to ts808 because its an overdrive and adds tube character to your tone... so parehas silang tube overdrive/screamer!  :-D

pero syempre, they have their own adv. and disadv. for each user...  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: juan sinko on May 05, 2008, 10:37:18 PM
mga owners ng bad monkey ask ko lang ano ang current draw ng bad monkey kasi hindi ko makita sa website eh
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Eivar on May 06, 2008, 08:42:56 PM
mga owners ng bad monkey ask ko lang ano ang current draw ng bad monkey kasi hindi ko makita sa website eh

17mA po

from www.digitech.com, you can download their manuals

9VDC
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: musicdigitalsounds on November 21, 2009, 01:11:51 AM
Ok pala talaga ang digitech bad monkey :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: esteban4377 on November 21, 2009, 02:01:16 PM
many times i offer selling my BM but pag evrytime gamit ko nagdadalawang isip ako hahahah,the more tweak i had the more may mga nadidiscover ako tone ,its good also cascading bad monkey to Ds1 sarap.. :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: AnodBiomech on November 21, 2009, 03:28:06 PM
wah May 2008 ehehehe  :-D
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: red_hot on November 23, 2009, 08:46:55 AM
Badmonkey has something na kakaiba hard to explain pero panlaban tlga
kumbaga sa chick di ka gandahan pero grabe namn ang sex appeal   hehehehe
pwede na ba yun!!!!
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: ghostalker on November 23, 2009, 10:05:33 AM
Badmonkey has something na kakaiba hard to explain pero panlaban tlga
kumbaga sa chick di ka gandahan pero grabe namn ang sex appeal   hehehehe
pwede na ba yun!!!!

nadali mo tsong,  let spank that naughty BM.  :-P
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: kune_km on November 23, 2009, 11:11:48 AM
many times i offer selling my BM but pag evrytime gamit ko nagdadalawang isip ako hahahah,the more tweak i had the more may mga nadidiscover ako tone ,its good also cascading bad monkey to Ds1 sarap.. :-D

mismo!!!

minsan nga parang BM lang happy na ako. gaan pa bitbitin as compared pag dala buong board. also perfect for cascading with ds1.

it can boost most of my pedals. whenever i need a clean boost with my modulation pedals or boost with my other dirt peds.

it could be a stand alone pedal for clean boost or a stand alone dirt pedal.

and lastly, it drives my tube amp crazy.

 :wink:
Title: Re: bad monkey
Post by: Lord Hypnos on May 05, 2010, 08:58:53 AM
Guys need help.. I really love my Bad Monkey (China) but it sucks tone fairly noticeably when switched off (not an issue when onstage, but still...). Do you know DIYers or effects repair guys here that can at least lessen the tone suck? (I now know that it's impossible to TB a BM.)

Or it might be the power supply, can it contribute to tone-sucking when it's not made for guitar? I use a regulated Newstar because my pedals are sparingly home-used only basically; I use a Korg multi for everything at gigs. Obvious na tamad eh haha!

I have yet to try this one though: http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?topic=138608.0 (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?topic=138608.0)

RFA: I can't sell it kasi, it was a gift from my "GAS-understanding" fiance, she'll go ballistic if she found out hahaha!