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Title: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lucy_monostone on January 16, 2006, 11:56:48 PM

dudes meron bang shop para sa pag shine ng mga crash, hihats at rides?? nag iiba na kase ung kulay ng cymbals ko, gusto ko yung itsuang brandnew ulit katulad sa ilalim.. mag kano kaya ang pa shine incase meron??

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: autoexec on May 31, 2006, 06:00:36 AM

Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals? Ang alam ko kasi nakakanipis ng metal yung metal polish.. Ano po ba maganda? Ok po ba yung WD-40? Suggest naman jan mga dudes!  8)

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: peeves24 on May 31, 2006, 08:56:28 AM

oily masyado ang wd-40 tapos may amoy pa. go nilagang cymbals dude...masarap yun

eto ingredients:

- plangana na kasya yung pinakamalaki mong cymbal
- mainit na tubig pero hindi kumukulo ha
- baking soda na mabibili sa inyong suking tindahan

bili ka ng baking soda sa grocery tapos pakulo ka ng tubig. opkors yung tubig mo dapat malulubog mo yung cymbal. tapos usually isang dakot na baking soda ang ihahalo ko dun sa tubig habang mainit. konting halo. tapos lipat mo yung hot water sa plangana. ilagay mo yung cymbal mo sa tubig for 5 minutes. di mo kailangan galawin, yaan mo lang sya magswimming. tapos alisin mo sa tubig at punusan mo ng dry cotton cloth. just dont expect it to be shiny like after applying metal polish.

i've first known about this watching the food network, italian chefs use baking soda/hot water combo to clean pots and pans. then i read about using it on cymbals from pinoydrums.

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: lucy_monostone on June 05, 2006, 11:58:48 AM

ah~ pagtapos "ilaga", immetal polish pa ba???

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: peeves24 on June 05, 2006, 12:45:12 PM

depende kung brilliant finish yung cymbals. pero kung traditional finish, no need to polish since hindi rin naman sya kikintab na parang salamin.

if you still want to use metal polish, look for non-abrasive ones. one good example is flitz metal polish. i use it on my cymbals but i order it abroad

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: lucy_monostone on June 05, 2006, 05:42:43 PM

teka, di ko alam kung ano yung brilliant at traditional finish eh~ pati pala, ang gusto ko kase bumalik yung orignal na kulay nito without those darkening green-like stains caused by sticks and dust..  mattanggal din yun pag nag laga ako ng cymbals???

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: peeves24 on June 05, 2006, 06:19:30 PM

di na matatanggal yung stains na yun. signs of corrosion at nagpenetrate na sila sa finish nung cymbal. pwedeng malessen ng cleaning pero di totally na maalis. the green stains are called patina.

how to distinguish brilliant from traditional? i guess the best explanation is to give examples : yung K zildjian traditional finish yun while yung A Customs brilliant. get mo po yung idea?

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on June 05, 2006, 07:16:50 PM

Quote from: autoexec

Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals?

Pro-Mark Groove Juice cymbal cleaner!
(http://www.gigmusic.co.kr/files/1509B.jpg)
P520 only. Available at AUDIOPHILE stores.

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: bugoy on June 05, 2006, 07:56:15 PM

Quote from: Tarkuz Toccata

Quote from: autoexec

Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals?

Pro-Mark Groove Juice cymbal cleaner!
(http://www.gigmusic.co.kr/files/1509B.jpg)
P520 only. Available at AUDIOPHILE stores.

wow mukhang masarap yan ahh !? eehehehe, gagaling ba ako mag drums kapag uminom ako nyan.. joke ! ey sir tarkuz ? kaw po yung nagrecommend sakin na pumunta sa audiophile cubao para humingi ng 64bit driver pra sa TASCAM US224 ? dun ka ba sir nag ta trabaho ? actually nagpunt na ako dun kaso wala ako dala CD... ehehe nakausap ko yung medyo macho na lalake na balbas sarado.. kaw ba yun ?

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on June 05, 2006, 10:33:48 PM

hindi ako yun. sa main office ako.

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Eni on June 08, 2006, 01:45:22 PM

groove juice o kaya ung sa lazer cymbal cleaner
good for brilliant and traditional

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 20, 2006, 03:46:53 AM

Zildjian cymbal cleaner mas malaki na ngayon compared dun sa luma na maliit ang mahal..

available@JB.. :lol:

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: autoexec on July 20, 2006, 05:15:00 PM

Thanks po sa mga replies. :oops:

Mukang masarap yung nilagang cymbals nga ni sir peeves ah. Masubukan nga minsan.  :lol:

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: drummerboy827 on July 24, 2006, 11:27:45 PM

There is a cymbal cleaner exclusively for ziljian cymbals

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: autoexec on July 26, 2006, 03:52:36 AM

Mga utol, share nyo dito kung paano nyo inaalagaan ang cymbals nyo para tumagal sa inyo.
Yung sakin ang ginagawa ko pagkatapos gamitin ilalagay ko kagad sa cymbal bag tapos naka plastic sila bawat isa. Masama ba yung ganun? Tnx.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: peeves24 on July 26, 2006, 07:05:41 AM

sipag mo naman  :D nahihiya akong paluin ang malinis na cymbal e kaya hinahayaan ko lang dumumi sila. naka setup lang sa kit, punas ng dry basahan once a month (kung sinipag ako)

i polish them only during new year's day and then let them rot again till next year  :lol:

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: legnacilyz on July 26, 2006, 09:36:28 AM

xmpre, cleaning... meron thread dito about cleaning cymbals using diff. methods.. "nilagang cymbals" ika nga! tapos gamitan mo cymbal cleaner weder trad or brilliant finish yan.. aun.. wipe out moistures dahil magcause ng tarnish.. nu nga ulet tawag dun sa nagiging kulay green na dumi? hehe.. wag mong gamitan ng abrasive metal polish kundi sa katagalan, ninipis yan.. masisigra ung groove.. tska avoid metal contact between the hole of the cymbal and ung pinagsusuksukan niya sa cymbal stand (dont know the term.. sowee) to avoid keyholes..

hope it helps!

cheers

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: inigo on July 26, 2006, 02:23:00 PM

^^The green thing is called patina. It's supposed to make your cymbals sound warmer. I don't mind having it or not.

Ako, I never clean my cymbals.  La lang, tamad (hehe). If ever, tuyong basahan or slightly basang basahan ang ginagamit ko. No solvents except water, if ever.  I tried Groove juice, pero if you read closely, it's made for brass, not bronze.  I tried them on my A's dati, at naging dusky yung color at parang camouflage yung itsura. I've stopped using it on cymbals... it's great for hardware though.

Pag nasa cymbal bag, I make sure na walang metal-to-metal contact between 2 cymbals. Like now, I usually have 2 or 3 cymbals in one pocket ng bag... I'll have one cymbal (or yung in-between kapag 3 sila) wrapped in a t-shirt.  I don't do this with the hats though, kasi same size lang sila... they fit together snugly and won't slide or create that much friction compared to differenly-sized cymbals.

Plus, I don't put the bag down na nakatayo... always nakahiga. If I commute with my cymbals and I have to sit down (like sa jeep), I put the cymbals somewhere on my shoes where it wouldnt hurt (like yung sobrang space sa may toes).  Other than that, I just put it on my lap.

And... like legnacilyz said... no metal to metal contact sa stand.  Mortal sin of cymbal care yan.

:)

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Gep on July 26, 2006, 03:21:45 PM

Nakigamit ako ng Zildjian cleaner 2 months ago, ok naman ang naging resulta.

Nakapasok sa pillowcase ang bawat cymbal ko sa bag para walang friction, iwas sa moisture, at saka cushion na rin.
Ok lang para sakin ang nakatayo ang cymbal bag, basta hindi tutumba.

At saka sa gig, magdala ka ng electrical tape. Ok din siya bilang temporary felt or tubing sa stands. Huwag mo lang kapalan kasi baka ma-choke ang cymbal mo.

Oo, ingatan mo ang cymbal mo sa stand. Yung kupal na drummer na nanghihiram sakin ng cymbal lagi dati, nakita na nga niyang nawala ang felt sa ilalim at kumakaskas na sa metal wing nut, hindi man lang niya inayos kahit nasa pagitan na ng mga kanta nila. Umakyat pa ako ng stage para pagsabihan. Ayun, nakita ko parang may shavings na yung ride ko. Badtrip, vintage pa naman yun, gaganunin lang niya. Buti na lang, parang wala pa ring keyhole ang hitsura.

Kaya ang lesson dito: hindi na talaga ako magpapahiram ng cymbal kahit kanino.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: inigo on July 26, 2006, 04:54:35 PM

Quote from: Gep

Kaya ang lesson dito: hindi na talaga ako magpapahiram ng cymbal kahit kanino.

Yan... cymbal care tip din yan. Sorry sa mga nanghihiram, pero mga chong, hindi mura ang mga cymbal. Mahirap-hirap sila pag-ipunan. Pis tayo, mga men.

In fairness, nagpapahiram naman ako sa mga drummer na alam kong maalaga sa cymbals (si Gep, papahiramin ko yan... hehehe).

OT: In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto. :D

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: peeves24 on July 26, 2006, 05:04:35 PM

Quote from: inigo

Quote from: Gep

OT: In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto. :D

o nga no. so true. tapos hampas pa ng hampas pero ayaw naman magpahampas sa iba

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Eni on July 26, 2006, 07:51:33 PM

pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: autoexec on July 26, 2006, 07:57:45 PM

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Pag nasa cymbal bag, I make sure na walang metal-to-metal contact between 2 cymbals. Like now, I usually have 2 or 3 cymbals in one pocket ng bag... I'll have one cymbal (or yung in-between kapag 3 sila) wrapped in a t-shirt. I don't do this with the hats though, kasi same size lang sila... they fit together snugly and won't slide or create that much friction compared to differenly-sized cymbals.

Napansin ko nga mga cymbals mong dala nun sa EB kuya inigo. hekhek
Diba kaw yung may dalang cymbals na may mga butas?? Heheheh narinig ko sila tinatawag kang inigo hehe. Tnx po sa info

@Gep
Ganun po ba? lagi na kong mag babaon ng electric tape simula ngayon. Hehe  :D  Ako kahit ang cymbals ko yung zbt lang hindi talaga ko nag papahiram  :lol:

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In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto.

Yep pero ang sarap ng feeling pag hinahanpas mo yung pinag ipunan mo diba?  :lol: Ewan ko pero para sakin ang sarap talaga ng feeling. Hehehe!!

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: autoexec on July 26, 2006, 08:03:53 PM

Thanks po sa mga nag reply!  :oops:

May tanong po ako bakit parang may dumi na ewan yung gilid ng ilalim ng zbt hihat ko? Ayaw siya matanggal kahit ano gawin ko.. Eto po yung pic

(http://www.geocities.com/josephxv10/cymbalrust.jpg)

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: autoexec on July 26, 2006, 08:21:44 PM

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pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..

Totoo po ba yun pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog???
Kahit po ba sa hi-hats? Di ba parang nawawala yung makalansing na tunog?
Tnx.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Eni on July 26, 2006, 08:25:35 PM

yan ung metal contact nya sa bottom or top hats. kc nag si-sizzle kaya napupudpod.hindi dumi yan.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Eni on July 26, 2006, 08:26:40 PM

Quote from: autoexec

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pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..

Totoo po ba yun pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog???
Kahit po ba sa hi-hats? Di ba parang nawawala yung makalansing na tunog?
Tnx.

cast cymbals only huhahah

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: ciro on July 26, 2006, 08:38:06 PM

Ive tried pro mark OK sya!!! pero kung walang budget e di ung mga lumang car wax na nasa garahe lang... Ok sya for brilliant finishes! Umarbor nlang ng lumang car wax kung kanino man kung wala sa garahe...

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: peeves24 on July 26, 2006, 09:01:23 PM

o nga no, car wax di ko pa na try to a. may protective coating pa

gud idea!

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: ciro on July 26, 2006, 09:22:33 PM

Na try ko na car wax sa brilliant finish, A custom and B8 pro... tangal lahat ng dumi, kailangan mo lang ng maraming basahan... tpos natangal ung B8 pro na logo ko... small price to pay to restore a 2nd hand battered cymbal..

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Miggleness on July 26, 2006, 09:58:57 PM

punas punas lang din ako... altho twice ko na nilinis gamit ang Joy paste kasi yun ang time na bebenta ko isang cymbal ko, sinabay ko na lahat.  

yung K custom dark ride.. yun ang sobrang dumihin! hirap linisin pero maganda naman tignan

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: legnacilyz on July 26, 2006, 11:07:56 PM

yuh, cast cymbals gets even better in aging.. lalo na ung mga Ks!

mga "dry" models ng zildjian pakintabin.. waw.. hehehehe.. iyak...

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Gep on July 27, 2006, 10:26:28 AM

Quote from: legnacilyz

yuh, cast cymbals gets even better in aging.. lalo na ung mga Ks!

mga "dry" models ng zildjian pakintabin.. waw.. hehehehe.. iyak...

Pakiramdam ko nga, hindi tumatanda ang mga A series e.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: inigo on July 27, 2006, 12:20:13 PM

Quote from: Eni

pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.

Yea.  I guess kasi hina-hammer mo na rin siya, in a way.

Quote from: autoexec

Diba kaw yung may dalang cymbals na may mga butas?? Heheheh narinig ko sila tinatawag kang inigo hehe. Tnx po sa info

Yea ako yun. Saluda 17" Crash (na parang "trash" crash).  Hanep sa lakas.  Baka may gusto diyang bumili... (hihihi)

Quote from: autoexec

Yep pero ang sarap ng feeling pag hinahanpas mo yung pinag ipunan mo diba?  Ewan ko pero para sakin ang sarap talaga ng feeling. Hehehe!!

Oh yea. Pag nalabas mo na sa plastic tapos minount mo na sa stand, tapos uupo sa sa throne mo... pause muna ng mga 5 hours kasi tinititigan mo yung bagong biling K... tapos patakan mo sa bow, tapos sa bell.... grabe... sex yun.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: autoexec on July 29, 2006, 03:23:34 AM

Quote from: inigo

Oh yea. Pag nalabas mo na sa plastic tapos minount mo na sa stand, tapos uupo sa sa throne mo... pause muna ng mga 5 hours kasi tinititigan mo yung bagong biling K... tapos patakan mo sa bow, tapos sa bell.... grabe... sex yun.

hahah oh yeah!

Quote from: Gep

Pakiramdam ko nga, hindi tumatanda ang mga A series e.

Talaga? Mas matitibay ba yang mga yan kesa sa mga zbt,zxt, ect.? Pasensya na newbie pa lang talaga ako.  :wink:

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: autoexec on July 29, 2006, 03:25:15 AM

Quote from: Eni

yan ung metal contact nya sa bottom or top hats. kc nag si-sizzle kaya napupudpod.hindi dumi yan.

Ah ganun pala yun..  :roll:  So wala pong paraan para matanggal yung mark na yun? Natural lang talaga yun sa hi-hats? Tnx! :D

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: Eni on July 29, 2006, 10:21:33 AM

Quote from: autoexec

Quote from: Eni

yan ung metal contact nya sa bottom or top hats. kc nag si-sizzle kaya napupudpod.hindi dumi yan.

Ah ganun pala yun..  :roll:  So wala pong paraan para matanggal yung mark na yun? Natural lang talaga yun sa hi-hats? Tnx! :D

wala na.kung gus2 mo gawin mo din sa iba para pantay lahat :lol:
joke.di naman nakikita un sus.

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: jun_BALARAW on July 29, 2006, 11:55:47 AM

sakin i use mc cleaner sa cymbals and hardwares ko. ok naman siya lalo sa mga stands talagang kikintab siya. try ko din yung isang paglinis sa isang thread dito yung mainit na tubig & baking soda. sana effective  :wink:

Title: Share your cymbal treatment here :)
Post by: pmack on August 06, 2006, 11:24:02 AM

Quote from: peeves24

nahihiya akong paluin ang malinis na cymbal e kaya hinahayaan ko lang dumumi sila. naka setup lang sa kit, punas ng dry basahan once a month (kung sinipag ako)

i polish them only during new year's day and then let them rot again till next year  :lol:

sir peeves, we treat cymbals EXACTLY the same....
clean once a year.
and let rot until next year.
hehehehe

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 08, 2006, 08:42:47 PM

hey guys,

concerned talaga ako sa technique ko sa pagtama ng cymbals, specifically the crash. may mga tips ba kayo na pede i-share sa tamang pagpalo dun sa crash? i've already broken 2 cymbals:

planet z 16" crash
zbt 16" crash

ngaun, nakakuha na ako ng pera and nakabili panibagong crash. its a K dark thin crash. talgang malaking pera ang nagastos ko dito kaya kelangan ko na tlga alagaan ito ng napakabuti.
paki share naman ng mga tips.  :D

tnx sa lahat! :lol:

EDIT: onga pala, joke lang dun sa ako nagbayad, parents ko ang bumili nito. =) yung detailed story ay nasa ibang thread, yung "b8's or xs20's?" na topic. hehehe. :D

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 08, 2006, 09:08:22 PM

Avoid metal-to-metal contact
Place a sturdy sleeve around the cymbal tilter rod when mounting your cymbals to prevent center hole deformation and cracking. Always use top and bottom felts.
(Cymbals can be damaged if not mounted correctly on the stand)

Keep it loose
Do not over-tighten the wing nut. A clamped cymbal will not vibrate freely and often sounds chocked. For hi-hats, keep the clutch medium-tight so that the top cymbal moves freely.

Play it right.
Avoid striking cymbals directly on their edge. Crash cymbals, especially, should be hit with a glancing blow, a little off center. Striking with a slight twist of the wrist also helps avoid breakage and allows crash cymbals to “open up”

Protect your investment
Always carry your cymbals in a padded bag or a protective cymbal case
Store your cymbals immediately whenever you break down your drum set
Wrap the cymbals separately with a piece of cloth when not in use to protect their edges and surfaces; be especially careful of the bottom edge.
Keep your cymbal away from extreme cold or heat

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: fredzs on August 08, 2006, 09:15:26 PM

^

All Of the Above ! :)

I play in a Metal band. I use an 18" K Custom Dark Crash as my Main Crash. and I Crash-Ride it to hell. Its been with me for 2 years. No Cracks. No Dings. :) Its the way you play I believe, even weight plays very little difference. I crash ride my 10" A Custom Splash too :) ala Chris Adler :)

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: Eni on August 08, 2006, 10:23:44 PM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

Play it tight.
Avoid striking cymbals directly on their edge. Crash cymbals, especially, should be hit with a glancing blow, a little off center. Striking with a slight twist of the wrist also helps avoid breakage and allows crash cymbals to “open up”

joke lng daw sabi ni kuya jun,play it right daw :D

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 08, 2006, 10:29:12 PM

Quote from: Eni

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

Play it tight.
Avoid striking cymbals directly on their edge. Crash cymbals, especially, should be hit with a glancing blow, a little off center. Striking with a slight twist of the wrist also helps avoid breakage and allows crash cymbals to “open up”

joke lng daw sabi ni kuya jun,play it right daw :D

YES! im joking!! :p
kala ko walang makakahuli!!!!

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: drumster on August 09, 2006, 05:07:37 AM

You need to put some swish into it.  Don't hammer it down.  Same goes for drumheads.  Play over the surface, not through it.

Omnicloud7, the Planet Z & ZBT cymbals that you broke are not designed to be highly durable.  So, I'm not really surprised that it got worn out.

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: peeves24 on August 09, 2006, 09:16:52 AM

plus im sure you bang the living daylights out of them to open up the sound  :lol:

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: Eni on August 09, 2006, 06:39:32 PM

aba eh,naubusan na ko ng sasabihin,
Tama lahat sila ! :twisted:

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 09, 2006, 10:48:24 PM

hey guys thanks sobra sa mga replies.  :D

hihi tanong lang, anong meaning nung put some swish? hehehe, mejo mahina talaga ako when it comes to terms. sorry! :)

oh yah,

OT question: tinatry kong tanggalin yung parang bar code na sticker sa ilalim nung cymbal, sa tingin ko ang tagal ng nakadikit nung sticker na yun kasi may mga adhesives na nakadikit tapos ayaw pa talaga matanggal, ano masasuggest niyo na pangtanggal dito? =)

thanks ulit sa lahat, i really appreciate the advices.  :D

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: legnacilyz on August 10, 2006, 12:17:36 AM

try rubbing it with baby oil and ur finger.. hiludin mo..
swish is somethin like hitting it with swaying motion in ur arms.. tama po ba mga sir?

cheers!

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: drumster on August 10, 2006, 05:11:22 AM

Quote from: omnicloud7

hey guys thanks sobra sa mga replies.  :D

hihi tanong lang, anong meaning nung put some swish?

Swish... Tama si legnacilyz.  Put some swaying motion into it.

Inspired by the Moeller technique & Freddie Gruber, play drums with a graceful circular motion instead of a stiff linear motion.  

Instead of boxing with the drums, dance with it.

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 10, 2006, 09:13:27 PM

ah okay, i get it na!  :D

again, thanks sobra for the tips! talaga nakakatulog ito sa technique ko, buti talga nanjan kayo. thanks again!  :D

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: jun_BALARAW on August 10, 2006, 10:27:07 PM

Quote from: omnicloud7

ah okay, i get it na!  :D

again, thanks sobra for the tips! talaga nakakatulog ito sa technique ko, buti talga nanjan kayo. thanks again!  :D

baka mamaya malalaman namin wasak nanaman cymbals mo ah.  :D

Title: proper crash technique.
Post by: omnicloud7 on August 11, 2006, 12:13:56 AM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

Quote from: omnicloud7

ah okay, i get it na!  :D

again, thanks sobra for the tips! talaga nakakatulog ito sa technique ko, buti talga nanjan kayo. thanks again!  :D

baka mamaya malalaman namin wasak nanaman cymbals mo ah.  :D

waaaaaaaa, hopefully ndi naman.  :P

hahaha, na type ko "nakakaTULOG" :lol:
nakakatulong dapat yan a. =)

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: raffyaeslovik on August 23, 2006, 11:20:06 AM

may topcoat kasi ang mga cymbals pag BNEW. if you wipe them regularly, medyo matagal itong makintab.
when you start using cymbal cleaners it will eat through the coat and clean your cymbals only. it will leave a shiny, clean luster that will only last for a FEW DAYS. tapos kailangan regular mong gagamitan ng napakamahal na cymbal cleaning kit, kung OC ka.

yung cymbals namin, nilinis namin mga 2-3 months ago, kumintab ng ilang araw, ngayon napakaganda pa rin dahil mahilig ako sa kulay brown na cymbals.

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Eni on August 23, 2006, 08:02:14 PM

turtle wax is damn good

Title: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: marko21 on August 23, 2006, 08:05:13 PM

hindi ba nakakaapekto sa sound ung mga carwax?

Title: What to do w/ a cracked cymbal
Post by: wax_static on September 05, 2006, 04:44:08 PM

Mga bossing meron akong 18" Zildjian na thin crash, may 1 inch na crack. Ano ba advisable na gawin dito, hayaan ko lang ba? Or do a "half circle chop" to remove the crack??
advise naman po para sa newbie na tulad ko :D

Title: What to do w/ a cracked cymbal
Post by: peeves24 on September 05, 2006, 05:07:17 PM

wag mo pa chop magbabago na yung tunog nun at magiging pangit na pakinggan.

dalin mo na lang sa machine shop na may drill press tapos pabutasan mo yung dulo ng crack para di lumalala. 4mm drill bit should do it.

Title: What to do w/ a cracked cymbal
Post by: wax_static on September 05, 2006, 05:19:20 PM

isa nga din sa balak ko... para huminto yung crack. thanks sir.

Title: What to do w/ a cracked cymbal
Post by: kawayan_strat on September 06, 2006, 02:48:30 AM

buy a new one...joke! :D

Title: What to do w/ a cracked cymbal
Post by: peeves24 on September 06, 2006, 08:51:12 AM

Quote from: kawayan_strat

buy a new one...joke! :D

hehehe the best option  :D

Title: What to do w/ a cracked cymbal
Post by: wax_static on September 06, 2006, 09:22:03 AM

Quote from: peeves24

Quote from: kawayan_strat

buy a new one...joke! :D

hehehe the best option  :D

oo nga... kaya lang la pa budget :?

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: bone on September 20, 2006, 10:39:34 AM

hi,

where can i buy cymbal cleaner in metro manila
and what brand?

thanks

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: drumster on September 20, 2006, 10:41:33 AM

Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner - available in JB Music, Salonga Music

Sabian Cymbal Cleaner - available in Yupangco, Perfect Pitch, Yamaha stores

Pro-Mark Groove Juice - available in Audiophile

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: bone on September 20, 2006, 10:49:16 AM

Quote from: drumster

Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner - available in JB Music, Salonga Music

Sabian Cymbal Cleaner - available in Yupangco, Perfect Pitch, Yamaha stores

Pro-Mark Groove Juice - available in Audiophile

thanks for the reply mr. moderator

do you know how much these items cost and what brand you suggest?

salamat

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: drumster on September 20, 2006, 10:57:33 AM

You're welcome!

I'm not sure about the exact prices.  But I'm sure it's less than 1K per bottle, most likely in the Php500-600 range.

The items I listed are all good actually.  If you have Zildjian cymbals, use the Zildjian Cleaner.  If you have Sabians, use Sabian's.  Pro-Mark's Groove Juice can be used on any brand of cymbals.

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: suspendead on September 20, 2006, 11:53:20 AM

Bro as far as i know, Pro-mark Groove Juice is less than 500 pesos while Sabian Cymbal Cleaner is around 750 pesos. I have no idea about the Zildjian Cleaner though. Hope that helped...

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 20, 2006, 04:33:43 PM

pero mas maganda daw ang pro-mark...

ask ko lang magagamit din ba yang pro-mark kahit sa mga hardwares??

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on September 20, 2006, 04:49:25 PM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

pero mas maganda daw ang pro-mark...

ask ko lang magagamit din ba yang pro-mark kahit sa mga hardwares??

yes, cymbal & hardware cleaner yan!

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on September 20, 2006, 04:52:10 PM

Quote from: suspendead

Bro as far as i know, Pro-mark Groove Juice is less than 500 pesos

520 na

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: Gep on September 20, 2006, 04:59:37 PM

Quote from: suspendead

I have no idea about the Zildjian Cleaner though.

P445 ang price.

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: bone on September 20, 2006, 06:37:38 PM

using a metal polish is a no no right?
what will happen if use it on cymbals?
coz i tried using it one time.

salamat po

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: Gep on September 20, 2006, 06:42:24 PM

Abrasive ang karamihan sa mga metal polish e. Pwede niyang kaskasin ang cymbal mo, kaya ninipis.

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: jeva on September 20, 2006, 07:48:44 PM

Quote from: Gep

Abrasive ang karamihan sa mga metal polish e. Pwede niyang kaskasin ang cymbal mo, kaya ninipis.

buti sinabi mo, duti n lng maliit n portion lng nilagyan ko. kc tnest ko kung pwede, e di sya kumintab, di ko tinuloy. baka kc mabura ung logo.

naisip ko din kc n kung pwede metal polish bkit wl p akong nkitang nagsugest nun sa ibang forum...

thanks..

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 21, 2006, 04:49:18 PM

nako titigilan ko na nga ang pag gamit ng MC metal polish... tsk tsk... matagal na ko gumagamit nun...  :(

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: Gep on September 21, 2006, 04:57:09 PM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

nako titigilan ko na nga ang pag gamit ng MC metal polish... tsk tsk... matagal na ko gumagamit nun...  :(

Hindi naman daw abrasive yun, kaya ok lang. Pero di rin ako sigurado.

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: drummerboy827 on September 21, 2006, 07:55:35 PM

Ano effect ng grrove juice?

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: CHAMPorado on September 21, 2006, 08:06:59 PM

Please do not use GLO or other non-cymbal-purpose cleaners. use corresponding brands for appropriate cymbals...zildjian to zildjian-paiste on paiste-sabian for sabian. do not attempt to use "not having enough funds" as an excuse to buy general purpose metal polishers, you'll really regret it i swear to you cross my heart, the long term effect is even worse you might burn down the hardware that sold it to you. if you cannot afford one yet, be patient, save up and buy one later on.  :P

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 22, 2006, 12:29:28 PM

Quote from: CHAMPorado

Please do not use GLO or other non-cymbal-purpose cleaners. use corresponding brands for appropriate cymbals...zildjian to zildjian-paiste on paiste-sabian for sabian. do not attempt to use "not having enough funds" as an excuse to buy general purpose metal polishers, you'll really regret it i swear to you cross my heart, the long term effect is even worse you might burn down the hardware that sold it to you. if you cannot afford one yet, be patient, save up and buy one later on.  :P

bibili ako pro-mark groove juice next week 4 my sabian cymbals and hardwares

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: toybitz on September 22, 2006, 12:30:51 PM

Quote from: bone

using a metal polish is a no no right?
what will happen if use it on cymbals?
coz i tried using it one time.

salamat po

yep, it will ruin the cymbal's finish.

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: drumster on September 22, 2006, 02:35:44 PM

Quote from: CHAMPorado

Please do not use GLO

I agree!

I have a drummer friend who, during our high school days, used Glo on his then-brand new A Zildjian cymbals.  The finish lost its lustre and the sound quality of the cymbals were affected.

Reserve your Glo and other household metal cleaners for your military belt buckles and household brass crafts... Not for your cymbals.
 8)

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: zound_tech on September 26, 2006, 10:37:35 PM

sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?

 :D


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Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: suspendead on September 26, 2006, 11:02:52 PM

sinira mo lang cymbals mo bro, wag kang magpapaniwala sa ganyan at wag kang gagamit ng bakal na pangkiskis. Bili ka ng cymbal cleaner tapos clean cloth lang. pag masipag ka, babalik din yan sa dating looks nya... Hope that helped...

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: pmack on September 27, 2006, 08:50:56 AM

oo.
ang zonrox kasi is corrosive (sp?).
pati protective coating matatanggal.
and tama si suspendead, wag na wag kang gagamit ng pang-linis ng ibang bagay.
cymbal cleaner + soft cloth + konting tyaga = clean looking cymbals.

minsan ginagawa ko rin yung soap and water na panglinis pag nauubusan ng cymbal cleaner. basta be sure to COMPLETELY DRY THE CYMBALS RIGHT AFTER CLEANING. and be sure na walang maiiwang sabon.

peace!

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: legnacilyz on September 27, 2006, 09:31:03 AM

so may abrasive/corrosive effect ang MR. Muscle? kasi ginamit ko to once w/ the help of scotch brite na FINE.. i scrub along the groove pra hindi sila masira.. in a circular motion.. sinubukan ko ito sa isang cymbal na nakatambak sa band room namen.. ehehehe.. abay luminis! hehehe..

P.S. - this is not my real method of cleaning.. i just experimented. hehehe..

cheers!!

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: suspendead on September 27, 2006, 09:44:22 AM

Quote from: legnacilyz

so may abrasive/corrosive effect ang MR. Muscle? kasi ginamit ko to once w/ the help of scotch brite na FINE.. i scrub along the groove pra hindi sila masira.. in a circular motion.. sinubukan ko ito sa isang cymbal na nakatambak sa band room namen.. ehehehe.. abay luminis! hehehe..

P.S. - this is not my real method of cleaning.. i just experimented. hehehe..

cheers!!

Sir kung linis din lang pag-uusapan, lilinis talaga yan BUT the protective coating which protects the cymbal from rust and damage will be gone once you do that. Sorry to say but i did that with a cymbal before and it went from Wow cymbal to WTF happened. Imagine mo na lang, you saved a lot of money just to buy a very good, High-end cymbal and just waste it with cleaning method some crazy guy or gal made-up. Ang laking sayang nun... Just my opinion, the final decision on what you will do is still up to you...Peace

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: jpmb on September 27, 2006, 11:09:47 AM

Sa opinyon ko ang red horse ay para sa ating tiyan at kaluluwa at hindi para sa cymbals..kaya para sa ikabubuti ng lahat..magsked tayo ng araw na kung saan lahat tayo ay magkikita at mag uusap tungkol sa drums at buhay-buhay habang umiinom ng redhorse...ciao

p.s.

pmack, suspendead at drumster dio
naaalala ko pa ang promise nyo na beer sa akin..hehe

Title: Re: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 27, 2006, 11:43:15 AM

Quote from: zound_tech

sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?

 :D

 :roll:  nahihilo ako... (^^^text message)

Title: Re: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: pmack on September 27, 2006, 12:03:12 PM

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

Quote from: zound_tech

sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?

 :D

 :roll:  nahihilo ako... (^^^text message)

oo nga eh.
hirap ng bihasa sa pagtetext sa cellphone kasi nadadala pati sa pag-type ng salita sa computer.

Title: Re: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on September 27, 2006, 12:20:48 PM

Quote from: pmack

Quote from: jun_BALARAW

Quote from: zound_tech

sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?

 :D

 :roll:  nahihilo ako... (^^^text message)

oo nga eh.
hirap ng bihasa sa pagtetext sa cellphone kasi nadadala pati sa pag-type ng salita sa computer.

hehe unang sabak ko din sa forum ganyan din ako hehehe... oks lang yan...
 :roll:  nahihilo ako...

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: xalanx on September 27, 2006, 12:26:11 PM

nakakahilo nman to red horse b? Dude!!......it's quite obvious kya may red horse ay para sa tyan.....and scrubbing pad is panglinis ng kaldero tama sila jun and pmack ung coating ng cymbals masisira malinis nga pero cra nman ang coating sayang ang money, time and effort sa pagkiskis.......... kung alang cymbal cleaner eh soap and water lng + konting tyaga will do. basta make sure that alang ng sabon at tuyo na ang cymbals bago mo store or gamitin...........


________________________________________

    PEACE!!!!.....\m/

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: drumster on September 27, 2006, 03:30:24 PM

Quote from: jpmb

Sa opinyon ko ang red horse ay para sa ating tiyan at kaluluwa at hindi para sa cymbals..kaya para sa ikabubuti ng lahat..magsked tayo ng araw na kung saan lahat tayo ay magkikita at mag uusap tungkol sa drums at buhay-buhay habang umiinom ng redhorse...ciao

p.s.

pmack, suspendead at drumster dio
naaalala ko pa ang promise nyo na beer sa akin..hehe

Yo JP!!  Haha onga di ko nakalimutan yan.  I owe you a beer.  Pero dalaw ka sa gigs namin!  Hehehe  :P

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: pmack on September 27, 2006, 03:49:33 PM

Quote from: jpmb

Sa opinyon ko ang red horse ay para sa ating tiyan at kaluluwa at hindi para sa cymbals..kaya para sa ikabubuti ng lahat..magsked tayo ng araw na kung saan lahat tayo ay magkikita at mag uusap tungkol sa drums at buhay-buhay habang umiinom ng redhorse...ciao

p.s.

pmack, suspendead at drumster dio
naaalala ko pa ang promise nyo na beer sa akin..hehe

oo jayps!
hehehe...
sana magkasabay tayo sa purple haze minsan!
peace!

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: jpmb on September 27, 2006, 05:37:27 PM

yun na! haha, dio at pmack cge gagawa tayo paraan for that drumtalk at beer talk..hehe... :D

teka baka sabihin ng mga pinoydrummer natin eh tomador ako..hehe

Title: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: zound_tech on September 27, 2006, 06:47:36 PM

hehehe..

sensya na mga dudes..
di ko napansin eh..
hehe...

bali yari na ung cymbal ko?
tsk tsk..
sayang..
geh salamat...

inumin ku nlng tong binili ko

hehe

Title: Re: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: drummer_boy17 on September 27, 2006, 08:25:39 PM

Quote from: zound_tech

sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?

 :D


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bro, dpat hindi mo yun gnwa.. kasi may possibility na mging tunog lata yun cymbals mo.. bili k nalang ng cymbals cleaner.. :)

Title: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 05:26:07 PM

what do you guys suggest to clean the finger prints on cymbals? my crash has some finger prints and its changing color a bit. when I tilt the cymbal you can see where the prints are. pls post some cleaning suggestions. what do you guys use to get the cymbal nice and shinny also?  thanks!

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 15, 2006, 06:30:25 PM

ako bro, punas lang with a dry cloth.
once a year pino-polish ko yung mga brilliant finish cymbals ko. pero yung mga traditional finish cymbals ko, mas marami eh kaya punas lang dun kasi kahit ano naman gawin ko di kikintab ng todo yun.
tapos the rest of the year pag may mga fingerprints na medyo madumi na tingnan, punas lang with a dry cloth. medyo may kadiinan ng konti yung pagpunas ko.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 06:58:41 PM

i tried wiping them. but the finger prints dont want to get off...
its turing orange where the prints are...
I finger prints got there from choking the crash (is that correct?)
 

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 15, 2006, 07:11:11 PM

hmmm
nangyayari din sa cymbal ko yan.
and yes, choking is the term, i do that too.
try mo cymbal cleaners, yun sigurado matatanggal yang fingerprints.
pero wag masyado madiin baka masobrahan naman.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 07:18:34 PM

ok. what cymbal cleaner do u recommend? my cymbals are sabian B8s.
nothing too expensive pls. hehehe  :-D

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 15, 2006, 07:20:20 PM

so far, yung zildjian nasa 450-500 ata. di ko sure.
pero ang alam ko mas mahal ang groove juice o cymbal cleaner ng sabian.
DI KO LANG SURE.
search mo bro kasi may topic na medyo informative about cymbal cleaners dati eh. natabunan lang yun.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 07:45:53 PM

ya the sabians are around 700 i thnk.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 07:56:37 PM

its ok to use zildijan cleaners on sabians?

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 15, 2006, 07:59:48 PM

ayun...
di pa kasi ako nakakasubok ng iba, yung sa zildjian pa lang kaya i don't have an opinion about the other brands...
try mo lang zildjian kung interested ka.. pero suggest ko dun ka kung saan may experience ka na and nasiyahan ka naman...

peace!

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 15, 2006, 08:00:53 PM

Quote from: manson on November 15, 2006, 07:56:37 PM

its ok to use zildijan cleaners on sabians?

i think, yes... pareho lang naman cymbals and halos pareho ng metals...
so i think, oo pwede most probably...
kung medyo unsure mga sagot ko, ayoko lang masisi..
:)

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 15, 2006, 08:15:28 PM

Quote from: pmack on November 15, 2006, 08:00:53 PM

Quote from: manson on November 15, 2006, 07:56:37 PM

its ok to use zildijan cleaners on sabians?

i think, yes... pareho lang naman cymbals and halos pareho ng metals...
so i think, oo pwede most probably...
kung medyo unsure mga sagot ko, ayoko lang masisi..
:)

NO! pao...
payo ko wag mo gamitin ang zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals mo..
date kasi balak kong bumili ng zildjian cleaner eh. tinanong ko dun sa tindero if pwede ang zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals ko...
hindi ako pinagbilhan.. kung gusto niya lang makabenta sana binentahan niya ako, pero mas inisip niya yung cymbals kaya hindi niya ko pinagbilhan.....

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 08:20:43 PM

ok. so sabian cleaners instead?
but for sure its going to make my cymbals nice and shinny? :-D

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 15, 2006, 08:28:01 PM

Quote from: manson on November 15, 2006, 08:20:43 PM

ok. so sabian cleaners instead?
but for sure its going to make my cymbals nice and shinny? :-D

oo naman sir.. di naman gagawa at magbebenta ang sabian ng ikapapangit ng cymbals nila.. diba?? ehehe

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on November 15, 2006, 09:02:00 PM

alright! thnks for your replies.  :-D

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: drumster on November 15, 2006, 10:32:47 PM

I recently cleaned my good friend's prized 90's model Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal using a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner, and it produced wonderful results.

Regarding the Pro-Mark Groove Juice... I also tried that, and I find its formula too strong for cymbals (read two of my recent blogs for my story hehe).  The Groove Juice is more recommended for hardware.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: bangbus on November 16, 2006, 06:01:28 AM

play safe:

zildjian cymbal cleaner---> zildjian cymbals
sabian cymbal cleaner---> sabian cymbals
paiste cymbal cleaner---> paiste cymbals

so on and so forth.

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 16, 2006, 08:41:56 AM

Quote from: bangbus on November 16, 2006, 06:01:28 AM

play safe:

zildjian cymbal cleaner---> zildjian cymbals
sabian cymbal cleaner---> sabian cymbals
paiste cymbal cleaner---> paiste cymbals

so on and so forth.

 :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

yeah, hehehe....
my bad...
i just thought baka pwede since they're all cymbals naman, hindi pala...
tama, play safe... its not like we could just replace cymbals as easy like that...

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 16, 2006, 11:47:17 AM

malay mo dahil sa competition ng zildjian at sabian.. eh ginawa ang zildjian cleaner na pag pinahid sa sabian eh malulusaw ang bakal.. (malay mo lang magkalaban eh hehehe)

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 16, 2006, 12:32:41 PM

Quote from: drumster on November 15, 2006, 10:32:47 PM

I recently cleaned my good friend's prized 90's model Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal using a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner, and it produced wonderful results.

yan nga yung sabi ni mod drumster eh.
pero tama rin kasi nga magkalaban na brands, just to play safe na lang diba?

apir!

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: kibohead on November 16, 2006, 08:16:51 PM

i use kerosene. ung nabibili sa shell 45 per liter ata...oks yun. hehe it preserves the finish kasi and it is not that sensitive to logos, basta't padaanan lang. Mura pa.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 16, 2006, 08:24:06 PM

Quote from: kibohead on November 16, 2006, 08:16:51 PM

i use kerosene. ung nabibili sa shell 45 per liter ata...oks yun. hehe it preserves the finish kasi and it is not that sensitive to logos, basta't padaanan lang. Mura pa.

may pics ka ng cymbals mo sir kibohead?
gusto ko lang makita kung ano intsura nila...
iteresado ako sa kerosene panglinis ng cymbals..
thanks!

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: ciro on November 17, 2006, 12:46:27 AM

Try this: eraser! oo totoo ginagamet ko yan sa mga recent finger prints... tapos iwax mo ng car wax! tangal ang ganda pa ng shine! :)

if all of my cheap tricks fail then use promark groove jiuce but do not follow thier instructions, spray it in a dry cloth and then wipe. do this repeatedly. I also tried zildjian cream cleaner and I think I like it better!

clean cymbals are better sounding ones... I have a friend who has the same model cymbal but his is the dirty one and it sounded dull to me, but darker...

si bagets sobrang linis ng cymbals nya parang bago! sax cleaner daw gamit. (if anyone knows where to buy this pls post it) tinanong ko di alam ni bagets kung saan binili kasi bigay lang yun sa kanya...

whoo... sori ang dami ko nasabi, nasobrahan lang sa cape... :)

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: killuaxp on November 17, 2006, 12:52:45 AM

sakto tong topic na ito ah. ma try nga ung kerosene tsaka car wax. lanyang finger prints yan ayaw matanggal. amf!  :-)

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 17, 2006, 09:00:34 AM

Quote from: ciro on November 17, 2006, 12:46:27 AM

clean cymbals are better sounding ones...

sorry bro, but i have to disagree on this one.
i think it's all personal taste.
may mga cymbals ako na di ko nililinis and nung nilinis ko nadismaya ako. ngayon medyo bumabalik pa lang yung sound characteristics niya bago ko nilinis.
yung ibang cymbals ko naman kailangan kong linisin para makuha yung gusto kong sound.
i think it's all preference.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: Gep on November 17, 2006, 10:26:59 AM

Yung mga jazz drummers gusto talagang madumi yung mga K nila. Doon kasi lumalabas yung warm tone/quick decay e.

At oo, effective na panglinis ang kerosene, kaso ang sakit sa ilong.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: powercharge on November 19, 2006, 11:49:14 AM

I once tried using Turtle Wax Upholstery cleaner to take off the stubborn dirt and followed it up with Turtle wax Chrome Polisher. It gave me good results. Ang hirap kasi tanggalin nung black film when you use the Zildjian cymbals cleaner.

Try it in small sections at a time to check if it will create a negative reaction. Sinubukan ko muna sa Scimitar before trying it at my A and K series.

Tip lang. Use the 3M Microfibre cloth.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 19, 2006, 02:00:06 PM

naiintriga ako sa kerosene.
meron ba ditong nakasubok nito panglinis ng cymbals?
pwede kayo magpost ng pics?
ang galing murang-mura kasi eh.
hehehe....

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: Gep on November 20, 2006, 10:29:10 AM

Pao check mo yung litrato nung cymbals ko. Kerosene ang ginamit ko.

Pero nag-apply na ako ng Zildjian cleaner e hehe.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 20, 2006, 12:06:41 PM

Quote from: Gep on November 20, 2006, 10:29:10 AM

Pero nag-apply na ako ng Zildjian cleaner e hehe.

yun naman pala. hehehe

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: kibohead on November 20, 2006, 05:09:48 PM

cge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on November 20, 2006, 07:06:39 PM

Quote from: kibohead on November 20, 2006, 05:09:48 PM

cge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:

condolence bro.
everything happens for a reason.
keep your head up, man.
peace!

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: jun_BALARAW on November 20, 2006, 09:13:52 PM

Quote from: pmack on November 20, 2006, 07:06:39 PM

Quote from: kibohead on November 20, 2006, 05:09:48 PM

cge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:

condolence bro.
everything happens for a reason.
keep your head up, man.
peace!

ako din nakikiramay

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: killuaxp on November 21, 2006, 03:33:26 AM

Quote from: kibohead on November 20, 2006, 05:09:48 PM

cge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:

condolence men... :-(
san ung lamay baka pwd kami makapunta?

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: rasta_gopz on November 23, 2006, 08:17:31 PM

mga master recomended ba gamitin ang GLO Metal Polisher????? i treid it on my splash and sobrang kintab like brand new pero may side effect ba to kasi alam ko for industrial use and GLO eh   :?

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: drumster on November 24, 2006, 02:42:25 AM

Quote from: rasta_gopz on November 23, 2006, 08:17:31 PM

mga master recomended ba gamitin ang GLO Metal Polisher????? i treid it on my splash and sobrang kintab like brand new pero may side effect ba to kasi alam ko for industrial use and GLO eh   :?

No.  Glo is abrasive.  It can ruin your cymbals permanently.

Way back during my high school years, my good friend used Glo to polish his then-brand new A.Series Zildjian cymbals.  It ruined the finish, the lustre was lost, and there were slight changes on its sound qualities.

Only use cleaners specifically formulated for cymbals.  

 8-)

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: killuaxp on November 25, 2006, 06:36:57 AM

master drumster, nitry ko yung kerosene like what they did but it didn't work. may finger prints pa din dun sa cymbals. ano ba masuggest mo?

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: drumster on November 25, 2006, 03:47:26 PM

As for general cymbal care and maintenance, it is always good to regularly wipe cymbals after every usage, using a dry, clean, non-abrasive cloth.  And whenever we'll be handling cymbals (set-up, storage, etc.), it's recommended to wear gloves so that we won't be leaving any finger marks on the cymbal's surface.  I don't have a pair of gloves, so what I do is I hold my cymbals on its edges.  Then, like what I said, I'll wipe my cymbals.

Based on experiences, the more I neglect the dirt and marks on my cymbals, the harder it will be to remove it when it's time for actual polishing.  For me, cymbals are like fine jewelry.  We have to take really great care of it, and it always looks better when it's clean and shiny.

If we want to keep our cymbals looking like new, I believe that proper cymbal care and cleaning must become a good habit.  Parang kotse... Kapag bago, syempre maganda at makintab pa...  But if one doesn't have the habit of cleaning and maintaining the car regularly, mas mabilis siyang magmumukhang luma.  Drive lang nang drive, pero di naman marunong mag-alaga hehe!

I never tried kerosene for cymbal cleaning.  I know someone who uses oil for their cymbals (ex. - Singer oil, for sewing machines and household items).  It works, but it leaves an oily surface to work with (which is tough for drummers who do lots of cymbal chokes).  Like what I said in my previous reply, I use cleaners which are specially formulated for cymbals.  That, I think, is our safest bet.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: killuaxp on November 30, 2006, 02:55:57 AM

thanx master! i'll try out na yung cymbal cleaners. bili na ako. hehehe! o nga mdyo napabayaan ko yung cymbals ko eh. pero simula ngayon alagaan ko na. :lol:

Title: Cymbal odor?
Post by: autoexec on December 10, 2006, 02:44:47 PM

Mga bro, tanong ko lang kung natural bang pag hinawakan mo yung a custom eh babaho yung kamay mo? Parang mag aamoy bakal na ewan? Pero pag zbt naman wala namang amoy.. Curious lang..

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: l_e_i_g_h on December 10, 2006, 05:41:47 PM

maybe radioactive-odour  :-D

But...uhh...kidding aside....ummm...I remember cleaning my 12" K splash...and it had that metallic smell....probably because of the Zildjian Cleaning "paste"....and all the metal...and gunk...being swiped off.

But...then...yep...that is...um...not an "A"  :mrgreen:

Just my five cents

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: autoexec on December 11, 2006, 12:16:50 AM

ahh, salamat ate leigh.

Yung mga a custom owners jan, reply naman po.. gusto ko kasi malaman kung normal ito, mejo nabasa ko kasi eh, pero pinunasan ko naman agad ng tuyong basahan.. Thanks.

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: Diadem on December 11, 2006, 06:29:44 AM

my A custom comes with chocolate scent... hmmm...

goes great with coffee mate... A custom and coffee mate... makes sense to me...
 :-P

joke lng tsong... A custom i think has a special coating that makes the cymbal smell like chocolate.. ay este bakal scent... hihihiihh

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: inigo on December 11, 2006, 02:08:56 PM

A Customs are bronze, while ZBTs are brass... so maybe it's because of that. I know that bronze is amoy barya. Brass as in brass knuckles, on the other hand, smell less metal-ly to me.

Sa akin hindi mabaho ang bronze... mabango siya. Na-associate ko sa amoy ng tagumpay... bwahahahaha.

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: autoexec on December 12, 2006, 08:17:52 AM

Ah I see... Thanks peeps! :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: peeves24 on December 12, 2006, 08:20:03 AM

kung mabaho talaga, akin na lang  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 12, 2006, 08:46:12 AM

oo nga joseph kung tlgang mabaho marami kami tatanggap ng mabaho mong cymbals hehehe pila ako sa likod ni peeves... kelan tau trade seph? sensya super busy kasi eh

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: drummer_boy17 on December 12, 2006, 05:13:44 PM

yunmga masyadong gamit na cymbals prang may kakaiba nang amoy..

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: rasta_gopz on December 12, 2006, 06:26:18 PM

Quote from: inigo on December 11, 2006, 02:08:56 PM

A Customs are bronze, while ZBTs are brass... so maybe it's because of that. I know that bronze is amoy barya. Brass as in brass knuckles, on the other hand, smell less metal-ly to me.

Sa akin hindi mabaho ang bronze... mabango siya. Na-associate ko sa amoy ng tagumpay... bwahahahaha.

pansin ko rin to' i have both bronze and brass parang may kakaibang amoy, meron bang cymbals cleaner that leave a desirable smell on ur cymbals? gusto ko ng ganun
sana may rose n sampaguita sent, wag lang durian hehehehe

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: autoexec on December 12, 2006, 06:29:50 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on December 12, 2006, 08:20:03 AM

kung mabaho talaga, akin na lang  :-D

Heheh!! Kuya peeves talaga. :-D

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 12, 2006, 08:46:12 AM

oo nga joseph kung tlgang mabaho marami kami tatanggap ng mabaho mong cymbals hehehe pila ako sa likod ni peeves... kelan tau trade seph? sensya super busy kasi eh

Waheheh asa kayo akin lang to! Hahahah. peace!! :-)
Ok lang basta IM mo lang ako sa YM kung kelan ka pede. 8-)

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: autoexec on December 12, 2006, 06:36:28 PM

Quote from: rasta_gopz on December 12, 2006, 06:26:18 PM

Quote from: inigo on December 11, 2006, 02:08:56 PM

A Customs are bronze, while ZBTs are brass... so maybe it's because of that. I know that bronze is amoy barya. Brass as in brass knuckles, on the other hand, smell less metal-ly to me.

Sa akin hindi mabaho ang bronze... mabango siya. Na-associate ko sa amoy ng tagumpay... bwahahahaha.

pansin ko rin to' i have both bronze and brass parang may kakaibang amoy, meron bang cymbals cleaner that leave a desirable smell on ur cymbals? gusto ko ng ganun
sana may rose n sampaguita sent, wag lang durian hehehehe

Heheh sana nga meron. O kaya wd40 scent, haha pampaadik! :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: Miggleness on December 13, 2006, 09:42:54 AM

OT lang, pero yung avedis crash lasang bakal talaga.

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: peeves24 on December 13, 2006, 10:05:26 AM

tinikman mo?  :-o

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: jun_BALARAW on December 13, 2006, 01:11:07 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on December 13, 2006, 10:05:26 AM

tinikman mo?  :-o

nice... ma try nga..

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: rasta_gopz on December 14, 2006, 08:43:10 PM

parang door nob  :-D

nasubukan ko din na may humiram sa sticks ko malufeeettt!!!! pasmado!!!!! ok lang kung pasmado pero kakaiba ito may amoy din pati sticks ko

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: intake on December 17, 2006, 07:28:46 AM

try niyo maglinis ng maduming cymal..amuyin niyi pagkatapos yung basahan..mmmm  :lol:
natutuwa ako sa amoy nun  eh  :lol:

isa pa...yung Zildjian pati yung Vic Firth sticks..pag nakakabili ako inaamoy ko yung part na nabali...amoy kahoy!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal odor?
Post by: autoexec on December 18, 2006, 01:32:19 AM

Quote

isa pa...yung Zildjian pati yung Vic Firth sticks..pag nakakabili ako inaamoy ko yung part na nabali...amoy kahoy!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Buti na lang hindi amoy bakal.. :lol:

Title: cymbal cleaner
Post by: acdsee on December 21, 2006, 09:08:40 PM

mga bro, is it okay to use cymbal cleaners like zildjian and the cheaper one Glo metal polish? sabi kc ng iba di daw maganda na pina-polish ito kasi numinipis ang cymbals? ano puede alternative just in case na di masisira cymbals ? pangit kasi tingnan pag marami nang finger spots at malabo na cymbals


Topics merged.  ---  Pinoydrums Moderator  8-)

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: manson on December 21, 2006, 11:42:34 PM

what can you do to purposely get your cymbals dirty for a more darker sound?

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on December 22, 2006, 09:06:27 AM

Quote from: manson on December 21, 2006, 11:42:34 PM

what can you do to purposely get your cymbals dirty for a more darker sound?

you could try not cleaning your cymbals. yung mag-a-accumulate na guck and dirt mapapatunog dark yung cymbal mo. pero matagal itong process na ito, di ko sure kung paano mapapabilis.

pwede rin lagyan mo ng strip/s of duct tape yung ilalim ng cymbal mo. yung ride ko nilagyan ko kasi aang bright pa ng dating sa tenga ko. mga 3-4months ago na. ngayon nakukuha ko na yung gusto kong sound from my ride due to the duct tape strips and the accumulated guck and dirt.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: Gep on December 22, 2006, 11:40:07 AM

Quote from: pmack on December 22, 2006, 09:06:27 AM

you could try not cleaning your cymbals. yung mag-a-accumulate na guck and dirt mapapatunog dark yung cymbal mo. pero matagal itong process na ito, di ko sure kung paano mapapabilis.

Effective kaya kung lagyan ng Elmer's glue yung underside?

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: peeves24 on December 22, 2006, 11:48:02 AM

NOOOOO

corrosive yung elmer's. bakbak agad yung finish ng cymbal mo tapos makikita mo na yung brown kalawang

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: pmack on December 22, 2006, 12:48:28 PM

Quote from: acdsee on December 21, 2006, 09:08:40 PM

mga bro, is it okay to use cymbal cleaners like zildjian and the cheaper one Glo metal polish? sabi kc ng iba di daw maganda na pina-polish ito kasi numinipis ang cymbals? ano puede alternative just in case na di masisira cymbals ? pangit kasi tingnan pag marami nang finger spots at malabo na cymbals


Topics merged.  ---  Pinoydrums Moderator  8-)

tama sila sa GLO. wag na wag ka gagamit nun pang cymbal. cymbal cleaners ang panglinis ng cymbal hindi kasi basta-basta metal ang mga cymbals not to mention, mahal pa. ingat lang sa gagamitin na panglinis. dun na tayo sa safe.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: drummerboy827 on December 22, 2006, 03:11:38 PM

may nagrecommend sa akin dati na to use soap or washing detergent. approve ba kau d2?

Title: Recommended Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: bugoy on February 20, 2007, 01:50:32 AM

ano ba yung "DAPAT" at recomennded cymbal cleaner ? pwede ba yung wipeout ?

Title: Re: Recommended Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Gep on February 20, 2007, 01:58:47 AM

Laway lang yan! Hehe.

Depende, may kanya-kanyang cleaner ang Zildjian at Sabian e.

Title: Re: Recommended Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: bugoy on February 20, 2007, 02:23:53 AM

ahh talaga ? nabalitaan ko di daw maganda sa cymbals yung GLO ? alam niyo ba yung wipeout ? yun kasi gamit ko sa guitarstring. effective naman sa gitara, sa cymbals kaya ?

Quote from: Gep on February 20, 2007, 01:58:47 AM

Depende, may kanya-kanyang cleaner ang Zildjian at Sabian e.

Title: Re: cymbal cleaners...
Post by: peeves24 on February 20, 2007, 09:18:45 AM

Quote from: manson on December 21, 2006, 11:42:34 PM

what can you do to purposely get your cymbals dirty for a more darker sound?

bring your cymbals near salt water, dont dip

it will naturally grow dark and corrode  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lovecore on February 21, 2007, 06:27:08 AM

I've read through all the pages but didn't come across ones fit for sabians (apart of course from the sabian cleaner). Ok ba yung Groove Juice with Sabians? anyone tried it?   :-D

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: rasta_gopz on February 21, 2007, 08:16:57 AM

Quote from: Eni on August 23, 2006, 08:02:14 PM

turtle wax is damn good

turtle wax dba pang kotse to!!!! masubukan nga hehehehe mag kano ba ang ganun

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Bammbamm on February 21, 2007, 08:30:57 AM

Im experimenting with MC Multi-purpose cleaning cream for my drum, hardware, and cymbals. So far wala namang masamang resulta particularly sa cymbals...ewan ko lang after a long time use. Meron ba sa inyo nakagamit na ng MC sa drumkit at cymbals?

Thanks!



Nakakatamad gumamit ng Zildjian cymbal cleaner, bukod sa kelangan mo pa ng madaming, madaming, madaming basahan! :-P

Title: Re: red horse for cymbals?
Post by: rasta_gopz on February 21, 2007, 08:53:22 AM

Quote from: zound_tech on September 26, 2006, 10:37:35 PM

sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?

 :D


*Please avoid text spelling.  Thanks!  --- Moderator

sir nalasing ako d2  :lol: sayang yung cymbals i hope its still ok keep on drumming sir cheers!!!!!!

Title: Clean cymbals?
Post by: jckazs on February 25, 2007, 06:56:21 PM

ok lang ba na hindi linisan yung cymbals, punas lang? hindi ba nakakasira pag magaccumulate ng dust at stick marks ang cymbal? kasi parang mas ok yung tunog pag hindi linilinisan  :-)  pero syempre pag mabasa, o kung me sign na ng oxidation, iba na yun.
meron din akong traumatic experience sa cymbal cleaner. ginamit ko sa paiste yung zildjian cleaner, nagkaron ng dark spots na hindi matangal  :-o  pero wala naman effect sa sound. cosmetic damage lang.

sir mod, tried searching kaya lang me error. sensya na sa dupe post kung sakaling meron na nagpost ng ganto previously. salamat  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Clean cymbals?
Post by: intake on February 25, 2007, 09:07:19 PM

kahit punasan mo lang regularly ok na yun bro  :-)

and ang gamitin mo yung mga lumang damit (kahit bago pwede  :lol: )..natutunan ko yun kay kuya anthony dio (thanks!  :-D ) kasi pag yan ang ginamit mo, hindi siya nakakagasgas sa cymbal....100% cotton = not abrasive   :-)

hindi naman nakakasira pag nag aaccumulate ng dust and stick marks although dudumi nga siya  :lol:

ganun din ginawa ko sa ZBT ko, hindi ko siya nilinis kahit nilalabas ko ng bahay.. dahil napakataas ng pitch niya (for me), bumaba siya kahit papano and mas controlled yung sound niya.

meron pa nga akong nabasa sa modern drummer, dati daw binabaon pa nila sa lupa yung mga cymbals para maluma kagad..try ko din kaya yun?  :?

Title: Re: Clean cymbals?
Post by: jckazs on February 25, 2007, 09:29:57 PM

salamat sa reply. pero hindi naman siguro magiging marupok pag hindi linilinis? meron din ako nabasa sa ibang forum tunkol sa linilibing na cymbals. pero me effect nga. yung iba mga 6 mos nakalibing. pero medyo extreme na yun. at baka magagasgas yung finish. worse, baka makalimutan mo kung san mo linibing hehe o kaya me tumubo na puno ng cymbal...splash yung mga bunga  :-) yung ride ko nasa ilalim ng kama (sadya). gusto ko kasi medyo dark yung tunog. mga 1 month na din andun na hindi ginagamit. chineck ko nung isang araw. ewan ko kung psychological pero parang naging dark nga yung tunog. pero andun pa din yung wash / sustain.

Title: Baking Powder / Baking Soda Cleaning Technique - How?
Post by: Mesh on March 09, 2007, 10:55:09 AM

I've heard the effectivity of using Baking powder / Baking soda cleaning  technique for cymbal cleaning.

I need your help guys, how is this done?

Title: Re: Baking Powder / Baking Soda Cleaning Technique - How?
Post by: peeves24 on March 09, 2007, 11:24:36 AM

boil water enough to fill your basin. make sure the basin can hold your biggest cymbal

mix baking soda while boiling. stir and add more until you see the baking soda settle at the bottom, if it doesnt dissolve then you know its enough. transfer the water to your basin

let the water cool down a bit. yung maiinit pa pero kaya mo na tiisin kapag hinawakan mo

soak cymbals for 5 minutes

wipe with clean cloth




at least that's how i used to do it

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ryan3 on May 09, 2007, 10:42:55 AM

meron pa bang ibang ways kung paano linisin ung cymbals? Yung madali lang....
Beginner lang kasi ako

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: inigo on May 09, 2007, 10:55:39 AM

Wow... drumster's doing some streamlining. Nice work mod :)

Sticky na to! (or at least bookmarked in a "bookmarks" thread) :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lil.drummerboy on May 09, 2007, 11:57:56 AM

try tnyo din to hehe.


1. How do I take care of my Paiste cymbals?
http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=3&faqid=80#faq80

2. What is correct cymbal usage?
http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=3&faqid=78#faq78

3. How do I clean my Paiste cymbals?
http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=3&faqid=16#faq16

4. How do I touch up the ColorSound finish on my Paiste cymbal?
http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=3&faqid=19#faq19

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ryan3 on May 10, 2007, 09:28:38 AM

waaa  :lol: Puro PAISTE! Cymbals ko walang nakasulat na pangalan...... .....T_T

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: darchmat on May 10, 2007, 09:48:20 AM

nu po ang pinaka maganda at madali na pagalaga sa cymbals...
way po ..
i got a zxtpro n sabian aax..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 10, 2007, 04:25:48 PM

mga sir, gusto ko lang po linawin, baking soda po ba o baking powder?? May nag sabi kasi dito na baking powder daw pero sa ingredients naman ni sir peeves baking soda.. Alin po ba talaga sa dalawa?? Thanks..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: inigo on May 10, 2007, 04:29:35 PM

^^ diba pareho lang yun?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on May 10, 2007, 04:50:35 PM

Quote from: autoexec on May 10, 2007, 04:25:48 PM

mga sir, gusto ko lang po linawin, baking soda po ba o baking powder?? May nag sabi kasi dito na baking powder daw pero sa ingredients naman ni sir peeves baking soda.. Alin po ba talaga sa dalawa?? Thanks..

same same lang yan

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lil.drummerboy on May 10, 2007, 07:53:28 PM

Quote from: ryan3 on May 10, 2007, 09:28:38 AM

waaa  :lol: Puro PAISTE! Cymbals ko walang nakasulat na pangalan...... .....T_T

pwede mo naman gawin yung mga instructiuons dun kahit sa ibang cymbal dba... :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 11, 2007, 12:24:14 AM

ah pareho lang ba yun?? Hehe kala ko kasi ang baking soda liquid tapos baking powder eh powder.. Haha.. Sige salamat po mga sir. Napakadumi na kasi ng top hat ko kailangan na talaga linisin. Di kaya ng isang bote ng zildjian cleaner! Hehehe!! Tsaka gusto malinis muna bago i-zildjian cleaner. :) Salamat ulit mga tsong!!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 11, 2007, 12:32:34 AM

Tanong ulit.. Hindi po kaya mangalawang yung cymbals ko pag ganun ang ginawa ko?? Di kaya magka-moisture yun sa baking soda+hot water?? May nakasubok na ba sa inyo nito?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 13, 2007, 10:51:43 PM

Quote from: autoexec on May 11, 2007, 12:32:34 AM

Tanong ulit.. Hindi po kaya mangalawang yung cymbals ko pag ganun ang ginawa ko?? Di kaya magka-moisture yun sa baking soda+hot water?? May nakasubok na ba sa inyo nito?

hindi sya kakalawangin..use hot water so it would easily evaporate  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 13, 2007, 10:55:33 PM

question guys..when buying a 2nd hand cymbal, is there a way for us to know if Glo was used? Ano ba signs pag Glo ang ginamit?  :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 14, 2007, 12:16:11 AM

Quote from: Akira JUMBO on May 13, 2007, 10:51:43 PM

Quote from: autoexec on May 11, 2007, 12:32:34 AM

Tanong ulit.. Hindi po kaya mangalawang yung cymbals ko pag ganun ang ginawa ko?? Di kaya magka-moisture yun sa baking soda+hot water?? May nakasubok na ba sa inyo nito?

hindi sya kakalawangin..use hot water so it would easily evaporate  :lol:

Ah ok salamat bro. :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 15, 2007, 02:51:05 AM

Quote from: Akira JUMBO on May 13, 2007, 10:55:33 PM

question guys..when buying a 2nd hand cymbal, is there a way for us to know if Glo was used? Ano ba signs pag Glo ang ginamit?  :?

up ko lang yung question mga bro.. :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on May 15, 2007, 09:15:51 AM

maamoy mo sya kung nilagyan pero nawawala din yung amoy pagtagal

besides that wala ng ibang sign


parang adik ang cymbal na nag GLO e. kasi sinisira ng glo yung protective coating ng brilliant cymbals kaya pagdumumi na yung cymbal ulit, mas dull na yung kulay nya. kaya ikaw naman, gusto mo makintab kaya lalagyan mo na naman ng glo ulit at hahanap hanapin mo na yung kintab na binibigay ni glo  :-D

but seriously, sabi nila ninipis ang cymbal kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. <-- MYTH bakit yung belt buckle mo ng CAT, mas manipis yun sa cymbal at lingo lingo mo pinapakintab e hindi naman numipis?

sabi din nila nagbabago yung tunog kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. di ba pinapalo nga ng hammer yung cymbal tapos yung microns na tinangal ng glo e sobrang laki ng magiging effect sa tunog?  :?

pero syempre kanya kanya tayo opinion. i personally dont believe in the cleaning products by zildjian, sabian, paiste na specially formulated daw. ang mahal nila e tapos dilluted metal polish lang din naman.

disclaimer: clean at your own risk

 :-( bad trip mode  :-( pasensya na po sa kontrobersyal na post

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diadem on May 15, 2007, 10:50:54 AM

Quote from: peeves24 on May 15, 2007, 09:15:51 AM

maamoy mo sya kung nilagyan pero nawawala din yung amoy pagtagal

besides that wala ng ibang sign


parang adik ang cymbal na nag GLO e. kasi sinisira ng glo yung protective coating ng brilliant cymbals kaya pagdumumi na yung cymbal ulit, mas dull na yung kulay nya. kaya ikaw naman, gusto mo makintab kaya lalagyan mo na naman ng glo ulit at hahanap hanapin mo na yung kintab na binibigay ni glo  :-D

but seriously, sabi nila ninipis ang cymbal kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. <-- MYTH bakit yung belt buckle mo ng CAT, mas manipis yun sa cymbal at lingo lingo mo pinapakintab e hindi naman numipis?

sabi din nila nagbabago yung tunog kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. di ba pinapalo nga ng hammer yung cymbal tapos yung microns na tinangal ng glo e sobrang laki ng magiging effect sa tunog?  :?

pero syempre kanya kanya tayo opinion. i personally dont believe in the cleaning products by zildjian, sabian, paiste na specially formulated daw. ang mahal nila e tapos dilluted metal polish lang din naman.

disclaimer: clean at your own risk

 :-( bad trip mode  :-( pasensya na po sa kontrobersyal na post

+10000000000000000


for me comparing ZILDJIAN polish and GLO..... parehas na parehas....
well its time to look for a Chemist... ano nga ba talaga ang totoo  :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kibohead on May 15, 2007, 07:50:10 PM

funny, but i use gasoline for my brilliant cymbals, it restores the "kintab" look. hehehe. hhmmm, about the sound...same parin, but if you haven't cleaned your cymbal for years tapos lininis mo, definitely, it will sound brighter and warmer. more overtones. godbless. :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 16, 2007, 12:32:44 AM

Quote from: Diadem on May 15, 2007, 10:50:54 AM

+10000000000000000

for me comparing ZILDJIAN polish and GLO..... parehas na parehas....
well its time to look for a Chemist... ano nga ba talaga ang totoo  :?

Waaah! I use Zildjian Cleaner pero hindi naman naging dull ang kulay ng cymbals ko ah.. Magkaparehas ang amoy ng Zildjian at GLO??

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 16, 2007, 12:39:19 AM

Update ko nga pala sa "nilagang cymbals method"... Sinubukan ko na, hindi siya nakakaalis ng finger prints, patina, rusty part ng cymbals, pero sa tingin ko ay nakakalinis talaga. Kaya ko nasabi dahil nung ginamitan ko ng zildjian cleaner pagkatapos ko siyang "ilaga", ang daling kumintab hindi tulad ng zildjian na kagad ang ilalagay mo. So suggested ko 'to bago ipolish ang cymbals.

Quote from: kibohead on May 15, 2007, 07:50:10 PM

funny, but i use gasoline for my brilliant cymbals, it restores the "kintab" look. hehehe. hhmmm, about the sound...same parin, but if you haven't cleaned your cymbal for years tapos lininis mo, definitely, it will sound brighter and warmer. more overtones. godbless. :-)

Anong klaseng gasoline sir? Nakakakintab ba? Pano nyo ginagamit, nilulubog sa gasoline or pinupunasan ng may gasoline? Thanks.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ryan3 on May 16, 2007, 09:49:31 AM

hirap naman i linis ung cymbals....
bakit ayaw niyo guys ung mga zildjian cleaner GLO at iba pa?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lil.drummerboy on May 16, 2007, 01:22:15 PM

sayang lang yung mga binebenta ng zildjian , sabian at paiste na pampalinis ang mahal mahal eh. tayo na lang dumiskarte maglinis makaka save pa tayo hehe.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Gep on May 17, 2007, 04:06:16 AM

Quote from: autoexec on May 16, 2007, 12:39:19 AM

Anong klaseng gasoline sir? Nakakakintab ba? Pano nyo ginagamit, nilulubog sa gasoline or pinupunasan ng may gasoline? Thanks.

Yung sinasabi nilang gaas, ok din yun. Basta sobrang konting lagay lang sa pamunas at ipahid mo evenly sa cymbal surface.

Tapos liyaban mo.  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diadem on May 17, 2007, 04:58:47 AM

i have both.. zildjian cleaner and GLO... mas mabaho lng ung GLO .. thats it... oohh.. and orange pala kulay ng Zild cleaner White ang GLO..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 19, 2007, 10:55:23 AM

orange? :? :-o :|

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 19, 2007, 11:33:42 AM

Quote from: peeves24 on May 15, 2007, 09:15:51 AM

but seriously, sabi nila ninipis ang cymbal kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. <-- MYTH bakit yung belt buckle mo ng CAT, mas manipis yun sa cymbal at lingo lingo mo pinapakintab e hindi naman numipis?

I love this!!! :-D :-D :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Bammbamm on May 19, 2007, 11:46:36 AM

Parusa sa buhay ng mga drummer yang paglilinis ng cymbals! Mahal na ng polish, mauubusan ka pa ng basahan sa bahay!


 :roll:...kaya sa susunod, puro Zildjian K o Sabian HHX cymbals na lang bibilhin ko para mas madumi, mas dark, mas ok! :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ryan3 on May 20, 2007, 08:49:49 PM

Mga sir pede ba ang GLO (metal polish) sa mga cymbal stands? at sa mga hardware ng drums? Yung mga bakal..
hehe need help

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 20, 2007, 09:23:42 PM

Quote from: ryan3 on May 20, 2007, 08:49:49 PM

Mga sir pede ba ang GLO (metal polish) sa mga cymbal stands? at sa mga hardware ng drums? Yung mga bakal..
hehe need help

AFAIK there is no problem with using GLO on drum hardware..so go ahead :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 21, 2007, 12:21:55 AM

Tinry ko kanina WD-40 sa isang part ng hi-hat ko na may solid na kalawang, walang nangyari at parang dumudulas lang yung basahan, kinuskos ko pa wala pa din nangyari kaya pinunasan ko na lang ng tissue para iabsorb yung wd-40 sa hi-hat ko.. Ayun so sa mga nag babalak itry ito wag nyo nang subukan.. O.o

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ryan3 on May 21, 2007, 09:15:09 AM

ang alam ko ang wd-40 pang hardware lang... kasi kuya ko ginagamit nya sa mga bakal bakal sa guitar nya para di mangalawang

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 21, 2007, 09:46:23 AM

@autoexec and ryan3,

WD40 is not intended to remove rust..non abrasive metal cleaner should do the trick to remove small nicks..

using WD40 to clean cymbals is quite a debated matter..some use it some don't..but so far people have been saying that it does not harm the cymbal..through time you might notice that the cymbal will turn dull and yellow but this state is reversible with using cleansers and polishers.. :lol:

only downside is it does make the cymbal slippery depending on amount used.. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wipeout on May 21, 2007, 02:39:25 PM

I see WD40 more as a lubricant and not a cleaner.  It is used to stop squeaks.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ryan3 on May 21, 2007, 04:28:47 PM

sorry hehe not sure
i still dont know what is the right thing to clean a cymbal.....

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on May 23, 2007, 12:17:51 AM

Quote from: wipeout on May 21, 2007, 02:39:25 PM

I see WD40 more as a lubricant and not a cleaner.  It is used to stop squeaks.

Napakagandang pantagal kasi ng mga kalawang yan sa mga chrome eh.. Hindi lang sa squeaky springs.. Kaya napilitan ako itry.. pero parang nasaloob yung kalawang ng cymbal ko, hindi nya mapenetrate.. :(

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on May 23, 2007, 04:35:06 AM

@ryan3
..try to read from the beginning of this thread..as you can see from the title "Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread" you will learn the different proper ways to clean your cymbals.. :lol:


@wipeout
..a bit more abrasive approach na katapat nyan bro  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on June 14, 2007, 06:52:30 PM

When, it doubt, there's Google...  :-D


Cymbal Care 101:

From the Zildjian website --- http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/support/productcare.ad2

From the Sabian website --- http://www.sabian.com/english/faq/faq.cfm#cymbalcare

From the Paiste website --- http://www.paiste.com/faqs/default.php?faqcategoryid=3

From drumjunction.com --- http://www.drumjunction.com/cymbal_care.html

From artdrum.com --- http://www.artdrum.com/CYMBAL_CARE.HTM

From rockdrummingsystem.com --- http://www.rockdrummingsystem.com/underground/drum-articles/cymbal-care.php


Research... Research... Research...  8-)

Title: search for the best cymbal cleaner?
Post by: revelaxionz09 on July 05, 2007, 01:51:15 PM

Mga sir ano po ang pinaka D' best na panglinis pra sa ating mga cymbals?  :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: compvr on July 06, 2007, 09:50:17 PM

tanong lang mga bro, avedis zildjian niyo ba nililinis niyo din?  pag ba hindi nilinis to ano mangyayari sa sound? 

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 07, 2007, 11:10:17 PM

Quote from: compvr on July 06, 2007, 09:50:17 PM

tanong lang mga bro, avedis zildjian niyo ba nililinis niyo din?  pag ba hindi nilinis to ano mangyayari sa sound? 

more or less it would sound more "dark" :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nO RLY on July 08, 2007, 08:26:46 AM

does the sound change because of the dirt or does it just "age"? ayon sa isang thread na sobrang informative, malalaman mo kung kelan manufactured yung zildjian cymbals mo by looking at the serial number. wala lang.. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 09, 2007, 11:56:04 PM

dirt is a major element for aging the cymbal (exposure to elements)..through time the sound becomes darker primarily through dirt build up.. :lol:

Title: Panong linis po ang gagawin ko dito sa cymbal na ito..
Post by: alvin_11 on July 24, 2007, 08:51:27 PM

(http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z100/alvin11thegreat/100_1166.jpg)

paano ko po matatanggal yung mga parang kalawang na stains..? i think hindi kaya ng zildjian wax cleaner ito..ang Baking soda naman hindi ko rin sure kasi i tried sa b8 hats ko..hindi po tumalab..tama naman yung mga procedures ko..may pagasa pa po ba ito??  :?

Title: Re: Panong linis po ang gagawin ko dito sa cymbal na ito..
Post by: peeves24 on July 24, 2007, 09:29:45 PM

try mo muna wd40

Title: Re: Panong linis po ang gagawin ko dito sa cymbal na ito..
Post by: alvin_11 on July 24, 2007, 09:31:59 PM

ano po yun?  :? pag hindi pa din po gumana, ano pa po masusuggest nyo?  :-D san po pla nabibili yung wd40 and mgkano? thanxx :lol:

Title: Re: Panong linis po ang gagawin ko dito sa cymbal na ito..
Post by: Akira JUMBO on July 25, 2007, 05:24:40 AM

Quote from: alvin_11 on July 24, 2007, 09:31:59 PM

ano po yun?  :? pag hindi pa din po gumana, ano pa po masusuggest nyo?  :-D san po pla nabibili yung wd40 and mgkano? thanxx :lol:

hardware shops of malls should have this..P250 for the big spray can  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on July 25, 2007, 08:16:26 AM

korek

ginamit ko na sa mga aax ko, tanggal ang nakakainis na fingerprints. hindi naman sya abrasive kasi lubricant lang sya. pangtangal lang ng dumi sa cymbal.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: alvin_11 on July 25, 2007, 12:16:24 PM

matatanggal po kaya ng wd40 yung parang rust sa cymbal ko?? :-D para kasing kinain na ng kalawang ee.. :cry:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on July 25, 2007, 12:20:40 PM

dude dumi lang ang kayang tanggalin ng kahit anong cleaner/polish. ang kalawang hindi dumi, nababakbak na ang finish ng cymbal so hindi mo na pwedeng ibalik yung finish nun. unless ipa torno mo sya

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: alvin_11 on July 26, 2007, 12:09:11 PM

 :cry: ano po yung torno..? pasensya na sa pagiging engot..nde ko kasi alam eh.. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on July 26, 2007, 01:35:11 PM

lathe = torno

kakayurin mo yung cymbal habang umiikot

(http://www.drumjunction.com/picts/cymbal-lathing.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Bammbamm on July 26, 2007, 03:05:58 PM

^^^^E di magbabago na din ang tunog nya..?

Kung i- buff , mawawala yung original lathing nya diba? Gaganda kaya tunog o papangit?  :roll:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on July 26, 2007, 03:54:17 PM

ok lang magbago B8 lang naman e hehehe

di na kaya ibuff yun, kinain na ng kalawang yung brilliant finish

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: alvin_11 on July 26, 2007, 07:21:31 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on July 26, 2007, 03:54:17 PM

ok lang magbago B8 lang naman e hehehe

di na kaya ibuff yun, kinain na ng kalawang yung brilliant finish

 :cry: :-( masakit ang kattotohanan pero kailangang tanggapin. kahit na mainit..hehehehe :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: revelaxionz09 on July 26, 2007, 08:22:15 PM

sir sa mga cymbal stands ano magandang paglinis pra kumintab ulet.. hehe...  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: alvin_11 on July 26, 2007, 09:34:08 PM

Quote from: revelaxionz09 on July 26, 2007, 08:22:15 PM

sir sa mga cymbal stands ano magandang paglinis pra kumintab ulet.. hehe...  :lol:

i think wd40 siguro kasi andami ko naririnig na maganda about sa wd40 na ito although hindi ko pa cya natry..hehehe :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: revelaxionz09 on July 27, 2007, 12:13:14 PM

ok! sir tnx for the advice!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kawal on September 01, 2007, 05:39:53 PM

feeling ko ok yung car wax.
ma-try nga mmya...

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Paolo-I-b on September 02, 2007, 12:54:19 AM

Quote from: autoexec on May 31, 2006, 06:00:36 AM

Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals? Ang alam ko kasi nakakanipis ng metal yung metal polish.. Ano po ba maganda? Ok po ba yung WD-40? Suggest naman jan mga dudes!  8)

nyekk...masisira cymbals mo sa wd-40...pantagal ng kalawnag yun pero iba effect nun sa cymbals...remember dude na ang cymbals is "tanso" hindi kinakalawang ang tanso and hindi nya kelangan ng wd-40...ginawa ko sa hihats ko..warm water and soap lang..then pede mo din gamitan ng steel brush pero wag lang masyado hard ung pagkuskos mo para nd magasgasan...pero xempre da best parin ung cymbal polisher tlga..meron atang sabian ang zildjian cymbal polisher...try mo sa jb or perfect pitch

by the way..
wak kang gagamit ng cymbal polisher pag ang cymbals mo is zxt titanium...

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 02, 2007, 07:35:09 AM

Quote from: Paolo-I-b on September 02, 2007, 12:54:19 AM

nyekk...masisira cymbals mo sa wd-40...pantagal ng kalawnag yun pero iba effect nun sa cymbals...remember dude na ang cymbals is "tanso" hindi kinakalawang ang tanso and hindi nya kelangan ng wd-40...ginawa ko sa hihats ko..warm water and soap lang..then pede mo din gamitan ng steel brush pero wag lang masyado hard ung pagkuskos mo para nd magasgasan...

WD-40 will not destroy cymbals. It is a lube and all it does is make the cymbals slippery. It has been an old trick for removing some cymbal stains. Some say it can make some cymbals turn yellowish in color but tone factors changing has not been reported.

However to your advice of using steel brush?!?  :?

That will definitely remove rust..and everything else as well  :|

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: smarty on September 02, 2007, 11:13:05 AM

Quote from: revelaxionz09 on July 26, 2007, 08:22:15 PM

sir sa mga cymbal stands ano magandang paglinis pra kumintab ulet.. hehe...  :lol:

kung wala pa namang kalawang, linis lang ng basahan (damp cloth ba tawag dun) tapos sundan mo ng dry cloth. pag me unti-unti ng kalawang, nakita ko din to sa isang thread and it is effective, babad mo yung hardwares sa tubig na me oxallic for 5 hours tapos punas mabuti ng tuyong basahan.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kawal on September 02, 2007, 11:34:56 AM

hindi lang magagasgas ng steel brush ang cymbals mo, but it will definitely destroy it.
don't use steel brush, kahit yung "steel wool" na pangkuskos ng kaldero. definitely a no-no.

BTW, how effective and how safe yung paggamit ng baking soda + not-so-hot water? sino-sino nang nakasubok?

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: Paolo-I-b on September 02, 2007, 12:47:43 PM

Quote from: Akira JUMBO on September 02, 2007, 07:35:09 AM

WD-40 will not destroy cymbals. It is a lube and all it does is make the cymbals slippery. It has been an old trick for removing some cymbal stains. Some say it can make some cymbals turn yellowish in color but tone factors changing has not been reported.

However to your advice of using steel brush?!?  :?

That will definitely remove rust..and everything else as well  :|

ooops sorry maling term nagamit ko......
hindi pala steelbrush...nawala lang sa isip ko ung word...
scotchbrite pala....hehehehe anyway un ang gamet ko for my cymbals not steelbrush
sorry hehehe
warm water then sabon panlaba then kuskosin ko ng scotchbrite then punasan ko agad..then lagyan ko ng zildjian cymbal polisher..hindi wd-40

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: RazeLJoeY on September 09, 2007, 04:17:55 PM

if you shine the cymbal..masmabilis magfade ang logo dba..??


may tips ba para ndi mag fade ang logo pag constant ang pag shine...??

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drummerboy827 on September 09, 2007, 05:26:13 PM

why are my cymbals getting whiter??  :?
please help me  :oops:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: jckazs on September 09, 2007, 05:43:26 PM

ok lang wd 40. me binili akong cymbal sa jb na naka display kaya lininis nila. wd40 at zildjian cleaner yung ginamit nila. Ok naman effect. This was last year...a couple of months ago, ginamitan ko ulit ng wd40. yung problem nga lang, dahil nagiiwan ng protective coating yung wd40, mas prone sya sa fingerprints.

pero kung bibili kayong cleaner, bilin nyo yung kabrand ng cymbal nyo. nag vavary yung protective coating ng cymbal per brand. kaya yung mga cleaner na ginagawa ng mga cymbal makers ay yung babagay dun sa coating nila. discovered this the hard way. meron akong paiste hats dati na ginamitan ng zild cleaner. nagkaron ng dark spots yung surface. though cosmetic lang yung damage, sayang lang. ngayon, though rarely na lang ako naglilinis, laging liquid soap and water na lang ginagamit ko. 

My take on cymbal cleaning (sensya na mga kapatid - medyo nahahyper lang kaya medyo ginaganahan magtype hehe):
paglinis ng cymbal personal preference. hindi masisira cymbals kung hindi linisan ng madalas. pero definitely, pag hindi mo linisan, meron effect...but not necessarily negative. hindi din masisira yan kung hindi mo linisin. depende din sayo yan. if you like your cymbals to sound exactly the way they sounded when you bought them, then clean your cymbals regularly. madaming professional artists na intentionally dinudumihan cymbals nila (yung iba linilibing pa sa lupa) para lang makuha yung dry, dark na tunog.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nO RLY on September 09, 2007, 10:31:41 PM

may napansin lang ako sa brilliant finish pati sa traditional finish. tinry ko yung metal polish sa brilliant tapos kuminis. kaso lang nadagdag ng kaunting rust. tapos nung tinry ko sa traditional, nagkaron siya ng dumi sa gilid gilid. masmahirap kasi linisin yung traditional kasi may grooves pa siya..

ano mabisang polish pati cleaner pwedeng gamitin sa traditional finished cymbals? :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cfbackbone™ on September 12, 2007, 09:01:21 AM

hi drummers! ask ko lang kung pwede yung "wipe out". panglinis din sya ng car and even plastics like yung flairings nung motor. natetempt ako pakintabin yung crash ko with wipe out but hindi kasi ko sure kung walang bad effect yun sa cymbals. tnx sa mga magrereply. peace always :-)

Title: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: cfbackbone™ on September 26, 2007, 08:18:24 AM

hi drummers, just wanna know if ok lang gumamit ng WD-40 sa cymbals. mura kasi and madali sya iapply eh. any reply will be much appreciated. thank you! happy drumming! :-D

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: peeves24 on September 26, 2007, 08:31:22 AM

yup, wd40 lang din gamit ko

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on September 26, 2007, 09:45:03 AM

anong effect ng wd40 sa cymbals? cleaner?

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: daemonite on September 26, 2007, 11:09:56 AM

Rust remover ang wd-40 diba? tsaka lubricant na rin....

hindi kaya matunaw ang polish ng cymbals dito?

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: peeves24 on September 26, 2007, 11:12:21 AM

nope, di naman abrasive ang wd40

panglinis lang yan

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: Akira JUMBO on September 26, 2007, 11:22:44 AM

A ok for me too  :wink:

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: MEGaKewl on September 26, 2007, 01:33:50 PM

Approve aku sa WD-40. kaya magtanggal nyan nung mga marks from sticks pag swinging motion ang palo mo. Me mga sticks na nag iiwan ng puting mala skid mark eh. matutunaw yan at you can wipe it out with a clean cloth

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: cavsdieagram on September 26, 2007, 05:06:38 PM

ok ang WD40...
kahit saan mo apply ahehe... :lol:

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: alvin_11 on September 26, 2007, 05:10:52 PM

ayus yang wd-40. eto gamit ko sa nangangalawang na chain nung lumang pedal ko. swabe rin po ito sa hardware, pati sa mga batterhead nakakalinis to.. :-D

Title: Re: WD-40 ON CYMBALS...OK LANG BA??
Post by: cfbackbone™ on September 26, 2007, 06:07:32 PM

wow! buti nlng ok yun! alam na pagdating sa bahay mamaya! wd-40 humanda ka! nyahahaha! :evil:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: 9_spiral on September 30, 2007, 08:34:33 PM

mga sir, ok lang din ba gawing panglinis ng cymbal ang baby oil? :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diadem on October 01, 2007, 01:02:47 AM

Quote from: 9_spiral on September 30, 2007, 08:34:33 PM

mga sir, ok lang din ba gawing panglinis ng cymbal ang baby oil? :-)

nakuw... ok siguro, kaso magiging dust magnet yang cymbal mo

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: 9_spiral on October 01, 2007, 02:03:25 AM

ah di naman ung masyadong purong oil ung ilalagay sa cymbal...parang konting amount lng sa piece of cloth..tapos iwiwipe dun sa cymbal...ok kaya un? mejo napansin ko nakakatanggal ng mga minor stick marks..pero hirap talaga ako tanggalin ung mga hand marks..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on October 02, 2007, 01:35:52 AM

madali lang talaga tanggalin ang stick marks pero ang hand marks kahit ang zildjian cymbal cleaner hirap makatanggal nun...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diadem on October 02, 2007, 01:42:51 AM

Quote from: 9_spiral on October 01, 2007, 02:03:25 AM

ah di naman ung masyadong purong oil ung ilalagay sa cymbal...parang konting amount lng sa piece of cloth..tapos iwiwipe dun sa cymbal...ok kaya un? mejo napansin ko nakakatanggal ng mga minor stick marks..pero hirap talaga ako tanggalin ung mga hand marks..

ahhh.. ok lang naman, kala ko kc papaliguan .... hehe

Title: Buffing wax on your cymbals??? Anyone?
Post by: nashbass on November 14, 2007, 04:51:39 PM

anyone tried using "buffing wax" on cleaning their cymbals?
i saw someone cleaning his cymbals and asked what is he using and the guy told me that its wax. i asked if it's a zildjian or sabian wax, and he replied, that it's a buffing wax.  the cymbals looked bnew after it was waxed!

but the question is, is it good for the cymbals?

because if it is, i would buy at a local hardware store.

Can anyone enlighten me? :mrgreen:

many thanks

Title: Re: Buffing wax on your cymbals??? Anyone?
Post by: maplesyrup on November 14, 2007, 05:07:39 PM

ako i used it.. yung colour green! pang kotse.. ginamitan ko ng pang buff with drill... ok naman sya.. lalo na ung mga dark spots na hirap tangalin! naalis! kailangan mo lang mabilis ung speed ng drill ingat lang baka humagis ung cymbals maputol darili or paa mo! eheheheh! maganda rin naman gamitin kaso lang... syempre! lagi mong gagawin un pag madumi na ung cymbals!ok din ung panglinis ng zildjian! kaso mahal! tsaka magastos sa tela or basahan.tsaka ingat ka dapat sa logo! nabubura nya. pero tingin ko mas matagal ang shine nung cymbals pag ung zildjian cleaner ang ginamit mo!tsaka napansin ko! di gano kapitin ng fingermarks, u know! ehehe! so far un pa lang 2 ang nagagamit ko na effective at talaga namang masasabi mo na! "gee ur cymbals looks teriffic" ehehehehe! meron ako dati nabasa d2.. ginamit daw nya ung zimoniz (tama ba spelling) panglinis din sa kotse...tapos bibababad nya overnight sa isa pang chemical....  diko lang na try.. siguro effective din!  dati gumamit ako ng oil!(regular baby oil)  kaso.. di maganda.. maganda lang tingnan sa malayo!tsaka madulas..baka mahulog pa sa paa ko yung cymbals pag hinawakan ko! aputol a paa.. wawa! ehehehe!pero masasabi ko tlga ung zildjian cleaner.. d best.. yun lang! bow!

Title: Re: Buffing wax on your cymbals??? Anyone?
Post by: cs_mapper on November 14, 2007, 06:32:58 PM

ehehe ako yung  waxing na pang furniture lang Glo ata tawag.
pero mas ok nga yung zildjian wax mismo. i wash them first poara maalis
yung dirt and grim tapos i buff na sya hehe. mag clear and sharp
and tone pag paluin mo ng mahina yung cymbal kumpara pag marumi
at makalawang na sya na iba yung ang gusto yung mas dry ang tunog
kaya minsan binabaon pa nila sa lupa cymbals nila sabi nila.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on November 15, 2007, 01:37:23 AM

di daw ba masama sa cymbals yung Glo??

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on November 15, 2007, 09:35:51 AM

Quote from: autoexec on November 15, 2007, 01:37:23 AM

di daw ba masama sa cymbals yung Glo??

may nagchallenge na neto eh, si peeves ata un sabi "yung buckle mo sa CAT araw araw mong gino-glo nauubos ba? di hamak na makapal ang cymbal dun sa buckle mo"

from that i take na myth yung nakakasira yung glo, ako gamit ko yung metal cleaner din, aerosol ata un, no damages naman sa cymbals ko...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on November 15, 2007, 09:51:05 AM

wahahaha yes i did say something like that (sobrang hithit ko yata sa car freshner yun)

glo is abrasive yes, nakakasira ng finish pero siguro psychological lang yung nagbabago tunog ng cymbal kapag binuff mo ng glo. kasi di ba pinapalo nga ng martilyo yung cymbal para magbago ng tunog? ano ba naman effect nung punasan mo lang sya di ba?

ang pinakaconcern lang about using glo e bumaba yung value ng cymbal kapag naisipan mong ibenta lalo na kung nabura na yung logo. pero drummer ka ba o businessman/collector? hehehe anyway, to each his own

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ushuaia on November 15, 2007, 03:24:05 PM

delikado ata gumamit ng elec drill,mababago temper ng cymbal.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on November 16, 2007, 02:17:14 AM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on November 15, 2007, 09:35:51 AM

may nagchallenge na neto eh, si peeves ata un sabi "yung buckle mo sa CAT araw araw mong gino-glo nauubos ba? di hamak na makapal ang cymbal dun sa buckle mo"

from that i take na myth yung nakakasira yung glo, ako gamit ko yung metal cleaner din, aerosol ata un, no damages naman sa cymbals ko...

Ay basta, stick na lang ako sa method ko..

1. Yung nilagang cymbals ni kuya peeves for "20 mins"
2. Pagkatapos tuyuin zildjian cleaner naman.
3. Mapapangiti ka sa kintab. :-D

hahaha...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: feed_back on November 16, 2007, 01:24:32 PM

mga bro i washed my cymbals yesterday nasobrahan na kc ng mc cleaner kaya mukhang  nag sesebo na hehehe plain water lang and soap joy pa nga eh nalinis naman .... are there any bad effects sa cymbals pag laging na babasa?????

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on November 16, 2007, 10:37:33 PM

pag laging nababasa siyempre magkakaron siya ng corrosion. Kaya ako pag naghugas ng cymbals warm water para iwas moisture tapos punas kagad ng tuyong basahan.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Tryq on November 17, 2007, 08:25:48 AM

excuse me po....

san nakakabili ng groovejuice na cleaner? thanks!  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Tarkuz Toccata on November 17, 2007, 08:44:12 AM

Quote from: Tryq on November 17, 2007, 08:25:48 AM

san nakakabili ng groovejuice na cleaner? thanks!  :mrgreen:

sa audiophile. (http://www.audiophilecomponents.com/branches.php)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: grendil8 on November 17, 2007, 08:27:41 PM

ginagawa ko sa B8 crash ko para maiwasan ang finger prints, nilalagyan ko ng oil (national oil) nabibili sa ace (cleans, lubricates, polish) para pag hahawakan ko ala finger prints diba.. medjo oily nga lang pero punasan mo lang at okay na.. pero bago ko itago lalagyan ko muna ulet.. effective naman para sakin sa inyo? tsaka pag madumi konting punas lang tangal agad kasi nga my nakalagay na oil..

hope it helps

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: 9_spiral on November 17, 2007, 10:38:03 PM

ung b8 hats ko ang dumi na...mejo di na litaw talaga ung pagkakintab nya...nasubukan ko na lagyan ng wd40 pero walang pagbabago..anu po ang kelangan gawin para malinis ito? thanks :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: eleven on November 17, 2007, 11:40:38 PM

dalawang beses na nabasa ng ulan yung cymbals ko, na notice ko pagkatapos parang gumanda yata ang tunog. hehehe, susubokan ko nga yung nilagang cymbals...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: starving_artist on December 28, 2007, 12:11:34 AM

Quote from: autoexec on May 16, 2007, 12:32:44 AM

Waaah! I use Zildjian Cleaner pero hindi naman naging dull ang kulay ng cymbals ko ah.. Magkaparehas ang amoy ng Zildjian at GLO??

i want to ask the same question. first time ko gumamit ng zildjian cleaner. at amoy GLO siya. amoy GLO ba talaga ang zildjian cleaner? feeling ko tuloy nadaya lang ako hehe.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: starving_artist on December 29, 2007, 11:06:24 AM

Quote from: starving_artist on December 28, 2007, 12:11:34 AM

i want to ask the same question. first time ko gumamit ng zildjian cleaner. at amoy GLO siya. amoy GLO ba talaga ang zildjian cleaner? feeling ko tuloy nadaya lang ako hehe.

up ko lang question ko: magkaamoy ba talaga ang zildjian cleaner at glo? :? thanks

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: maplesyrup on December 29, 2007, 11:25:56 AM

alam ko magka amoy eh! pero oks yang cymbal cleaner ng zildjian! wag mo lang isama sa paglinis yung logo! lakas makabura nun!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wireme on January 17, 2008, 07:34:23 PM

ano po para sa inyo ang the best panglinis ng cymbals? rate kaya natin ano maganda base sa mga experiences ninyo. thanks!

1. branded cleaners
2. kerosene
3. turtle wax
4. soaking w/ baking soda
5. glo (myth: nakakasira ng cymbals)
6. cloth only
7. others

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wackybong on February 11, 2008, 07:28:38 AM

nakakanipis talaga ang glo, pero d naman ganun ka grabe, kung pa minsan minsan lang gagamitin d naman masama, yun security guard sa kapit bahay namin araw-araw nililinis ng glo yun buckle ng sinturon at badge nya d naman nasisira :-D kumikintab pa nga eh :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: plep on February 11, 2008, 09:59:10 AM

Quote from: wireme on January 17, 2008, 07:34:23 PM

ano po para sa inyo ang the best panglinis ng cymbals? rate kaya natin ano maganda base sa mga experiences ninyo. thanks!

1. branded cleaners
2. kerosene
3. turtle wax
4. soaking w/ baking soda
5. glo (myth: nakakasira ng cymbals)
6. cloth only
7. others

para sa akin, kung maglilinis ka lang rin ng cymbal eh branded cleaners or hot water + baking soda na. bakit ka naman magtataya sa mga panglinis na baka naman eh masyadong matapang at baka makasira pa sa cymbal di ba?

kaso personally, wag mo na lang linisin. siguro punasan kung kadiri na, kaso otherwise pabayaan na lang. yung 18" SH Thin Crash ko nga, talagang sadya kong dinudumihan para bumilis tumanda e.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rastah on February 11, 2008, 12:01:25 PM

nakakasira ba talga or nakakanipis yung glo kasi nag tataka rin ako bakit naman yung buckle na pang cat and nipisnipis nun di naman nasisira

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: plep on February 11, 2008, 02:19:02 PM

di lang naman sa pagnipis lang e... baka matarnish yung bronze o malagyan ng layer ng grasa o ano na makakapagbago sa tunog. basta ako di ko na lang gagalawin yung cymbal. tunog naman importante hindi istura e.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 11, 2008, 06:04:16 PM

hmm yung zildjian cleaner ko kinain yung mga linya sa cymbals ko

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on February 11, 2008, 06:14:02 PM

Quote from: rhanen28 on February 11, 2008, 06:04:16 PM

hmm yung zildjian cleaner ko kinain yung mga linya sa cymbals ko

What cymbal models do you have?  And how did you clean it?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 11, 2008, 07:48:56 PM

ni-try ko kasi sa ZBT Ride nung nililinis ko eh paikot lang tapos na notice ko sa isang part eh parang nawawala na at pumangit ung itsura ng ride ko

ill try to post pictures later

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on February 12, 2008, 03:59:53 AM

As far as I know, Zildjian's cymbal cleaner works best on their cast cymbal models.  I'm not sure, I'll look for my bottle then read what's said on the label...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wackybong on February 12, 2008, 09:23:05 AM

rhanen, subukan mo lang buff ng tuyong basahan, hangang kumintab at mawala yun itim, wag mona lagyan ng cleaner, buff mo lang sya ng basahan na tuyo

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 12, 2008, 09:31:55 AM

ganun nga ginawa ko

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 27, 2008, 10:55:58 PM

@drumster:

(http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4240/dsc05355ag8.jpg)

heres the pic sorry kung ngayon ko lang na ipost

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 27, 2008, 11:08:28 PM

(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/616/dsc05354sd0.jpg)

close up view po

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on February 28, 2008, 01:34:31 AM

I just visited Zildjian's website, and here's what they say about their Cymbal Cleaning Polish...


"If you love to clean your Zildjians, we just made it a lot easier for you. New cymbal cleaning polish will clean, polish and protect all your Zildjians, Cast or Sheet, Brilliant or Traditional Finish with the exception of ZXT Titanium." - http://www.zildjian.com/en-US/products/productDetail.ad2?catalogID=1042&typeID=0&productID=2098


So I stand corrected...  Their Cymbal Cleaning Polish can also be used for sheet-style cymbals.

Brand-new Zildjian cymbals have a thin, clear "factory protective coating", for protection purposes while it's on shipment, stocks, and music store showrooms/displays.  This is a temporary thing which "fades" in time.

Bro rhanen, how old is your cymbal (check your serial number)?  And was this the first time you used the Cymbal Cleaning Polish on your ZBT ride cymbal? 

I believe it wasn't the lathing (lines) that were removed from your cymbal.  It must be its protective coating.  And I think yours just got darker because of the accumulation of dirt and the elements.  If that's the case, then it's just normal. 

It also happened to me before, when I did my first Zildjian cymbal cymbal polishing, using their cleaner.  I thought I ruined my old A Custom's finish.  But what happened was I was actually removing the factory protective coating of my cymbal.


I hope this helps.  And if there are any more info or corrections, please post it here.  :-)



*****



Here's some info from the web.  This is useful info for Zildjian cymbal owners...


What type of cleaner should I use on my Zildjian cymbals?

The Zildjian Cymbalsmiths feel that the sound of the cymbal actually improves with age even when you do nothing to them. However, if you choose to clean your cymbals we recommend using our specially formulated cleaner - Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish. This can be used on all Zildjian Cast and Sheet cymbals except for ZXT Titanium.

For ZXT Titanium series cymbals, use only a small amount of water and/or water based window cleaners such as glass cleaner. Dry thoroughly after wiping with a damp cloth and watch the cymbals shine. Do NOT use any sort of acid based cleaners, including the new Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish or old Zildjian Cleaning Products on ZXT Titanium Products.

Cleaning cymbals with any abrasive compound, such as metal cleaner can actually harm the cymbal and affect its sound. Using this abrasive cleaner can also result in damaging the logos and/or any factory protective coating. Using these types of products may void Zildjian's Warranty Policy.

Please note that Zildjian is not responsible for misuse or damage caused by any cymbal cleaning products not recommended by Zildjian. This includes all non-Zildjian made cymbal cleaning products. Cleaning cymbals with any abrasive compound, such as metal cleaner will actually harm the cymbal and affect its sound. Using this abrasive cleaner will also result in the removal of logos or printed material and/or any factory protective coating. You should never use metal cleaner on your cymbals. If your Zildjian cymbal is damaged through the use of non-Zildjian approved cleaning products or methods, we cannot consider replacing the cymbal.

Some helpful cleaning techniques:

Always use Zildjian Cymbal Cleaners sparingly. Less is more.
 
Work no more than a quarter of the cymbal at a time.
 
Avoid direct application of cleaner to and excess rubbing of logo areas.
 
Always follow the directions on the packaging.

Caution: Keep out of reach of children. Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish may be an irritant to eyes, skin, mucus membranes and/or respiratory tract. Avoid contact with skin and eyes. In case of contact with eyes, flush thoroughly with water. If swallowed, drink three to four glasses of milk or water. Do not induce vomiting and call a physician immediately.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 28, 2008, 08:30:57 AM

Quote from: drumster on February 28, 2008, 01:34:31 AM

Bro rhanen, how old is your cymbal (check your serial number)?  And was this the first time you used the Cymbal Cleaning Polish on your ZBT ride cymbal? 

its JF 4633 18 i think nabili ko sya last june then nilinis ko after a month

Quote from: drumster on February 28, 2008, 01:34:31 AM

I believe it wasn't the lathing (lines) that were removed from your cymbal.  It must be its protective coating.  And I think yours just got darker because of the accumulation of dirt and the elements.  If that's the case, then it's just normal. 

kung coating po yun bakit pag hinahawakan ko po parang ang kinis or flat na yung area?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on February 28, 2008, 06:32:33 PM

JF... 2006 model.  So, the protective coat was still pretty fresh then.

I'm not sure with the ZBT Ride's lathing profile.  Maybe the actual cymbal really feels flat when touched.  And maybe there was already a dirt build-up prior to cleaning.  I'll see if I can check an actual ZBT Ride on display...  

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on February 29, 2008, 03:56:10 AM

@rhanen28
Ganyan talaga pag may natitira pang excess ng zildjian cleaner.
Ang gawin mo para sigurado, lagyan mo ulit ng cleaner (para
bagong cleaner, mahirap na kasi minsan tanggalin pag naiwanan
na ng matagal at natuyo na yung chemical) tapos punasan mabuti
ng malinis/tuyong basahan, tapos punasan mo lang ng punasan
hanggang sa mawala yung mark. Naka zbt din ako bro naexperience
ko din dati yan..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 29, 2008, 09:54:58 AM

triny ko sa bell ulit medyo nwala nga at kumintab
kaso ang daming basahan ang kinain ang gastos hehe

salamat sa mga tulong nyo :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on February 29, 2008, 03:52:08 PM

Yup it's really like that.  The cymbal cleaner is very strong.  The dirtier the cymbal, the dirtier the basahan.

When I clean my cymbals, I prepare to get dirty & naghahanda talaga ako ng madaming basahan.  I use my old, worn-out cotton socks as basahan, and it can also double as makeshift gloves.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wipeout on February 29, 2008, 04:27:47 PM

what I do after cleaning the cymbal with the cleaner, I wash it with soap and water to remove the residue left by the dirt on the cymbal and the cleaning solution.  Then I wipe it off with a dry clean cloth.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on February 29, 2008, 04:45:29 PM

nilinis ko ulit

ang ginawa ko wash with joy and warmwater -> wipe dry -> cymbal cleaner

so ulitin ko hugasan ung cymbal i see pero nde ko pa nahugasan mas ok na kesa sa dating itsura though ung lathing ng ibang parte nawala na talaga  :cry:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on February 29, 2008, 05:08:03 PM

Quote from: wipeout on February 29, 2008, 04:27:47 PM

what I do after cleaning the cymbal with the cleaner, I wash it with soap and water to remove the residue left by the dirt on the cymbal and the cleaning solution.  Then I wipe it off with a dry clean cloth.

Try also some Armor-All protectant.  After cleaning the cymbal with the cymbal cleaner, spray some Armor-All.  It removes residue easily and effectively.  Plus, it gives an added layer of protection.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wipeout on February 29, 2008, 05:13:22 PM

haven't tried armor-all.  Next time I'll give it a try.  thanks for the tip.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: oliver_soh on February 29, 2008, 11:14:30 PM

curios lng: panu ung sa baking soda method of cleaning cymbals? halimbawa sa batya tpos hot water and then baking soda?ganun ba babad lang gagawin?gano naman katagal??? :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: gerr4 on March 01, 2008, 01:24:19 AM

mga sir anu pdeng gmitin sa pang linis sa DH stagg china.. la ako lam maxado sa mga finish finish.. pti sa scimitar cymbals.. thx :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on March 01, 2008, 03:10:48 AM

Quote from: oliver_soh on February 29, 2008, 11:14:30 PM

curios lng: panu ung sa baking soda method of cleaning cymbals? halimbawa sa batya tpos hot water and then baking soda?ganun ba babad lang gagawin?gano naman katagal??? :?

10-20 mins bro... Ok to gawin bago mo lagyan ng cleaner, kasi matatanggal talaga yung mga nakadikit na dumi na hindi natatanggal ng basahan... pag linis mo ng cleaner ambilis kumintab.. :-D
Ganyan lagi method ko siguro mga every 2-3 months...
-babad sa baking soda
-tuyuin mabuti
-apply zildjian cleaner
-make sure na walang natirang excess ng cleaner sa cymbal

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: gutblastgil on March 02, 2008, 09:32:01 AM

1st) I think the hot water and baking soda is a bad idea.. (no offense) because heat can make your cymbals weak and more prone to crack..

2nd) DW40 and Metal polish is also a bad idea coz it removes the first coating of your cymbal...

"dw40 can be used for patina applying small amounts on it and leave for a couple of minutes to make patina weak," then wipe it.

3rd) Groove juices zildjian cleaners and etc, are bad idea too coz it is composed also of chemicals which is simmilar to metal polishes...

<<<<<the BEST that worked for me>>>>

i know this may sound funny...

USE Johnson's BABY OIL!!!!

why use it?

DUHHH!!! because it has no chemicals... its natural and its very light... not only it weakens and removes patina and finger prints.. it also shines your cymbals.. of course after puting some amounts then you need to wipe it. some oil will be left making your cymbals shiny...

Do this once every 2weeks to a month... I have done this w/ my  A custom cymbals for freakin yrs now.. still shines like new and still has its luster and same coating un damaged...

I just want to share this to the people who cares for their cymbals like me..
hope it works for you also..

PEACE!!!! :mrgreen:

Title: Cymbal Polishers
Post by: Bryce on March 14, 2008, 09:48:22 AM

mam/sir, what can you say about cymbal polishers?
nakaka apekto ba yun sa tunog?
nakaka apekto ba yun sa cymbal at mag fafade pag pinolish ng pinolish?
ano magandang alternative way to maintain the cleanliness of the cymbals?
thanks :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Polishers
Post by: FINGERZAP on March 14, 2008, 10:00:05 AM

I've used cymbal cleaners before. Naalis nga yung dirt na dumikit sa cymbal, pero nabawasan din yung luster nito. Same brand of cymbal and cymbal cleaner ang ginamit ko so you can't say non-recommended yung cleaner. My advice is to cover your cymbals (or the whole kit for that matter) with a large cloth or something to reduce dirt build-up.

Title: Re: Cymbal Polishers
Post by: Bryce on March 14, 2008, 12:43:54 PM

kasi sir i'm selling my zildjian cymbal polisher
kasi switch na ko sa sabian
mahusay ang mga polisher
parang naka tingin ka sa mirror sa kintab at makikita mo yung muka mo clearly ag nalinis ng maayos
pero ang tanong..
masisira ba ang cymbal?
mag babago ba tunog niya?
numinipis ba siya at onti onting natatanggal yung layer?
thanks :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Polishers
Post by: FINGERZAP on March 14, 2008, 01:04:58 PM

I don't think sisirain ng polisher ang cymbal, or babaguhin ang tunog. But it may reduce the cymbal's luster, based on my experience.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sia on April 12, 2008, 10:28:41 AM

mga sir ....kc yng color nung cymbals ko
sir super brown n!!!!kya p po kya nung baking soda???
bblik p po kya yn dn s original n color nya???
maraming slamat mga sir newbie here!!!!


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Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on April 19, 2008, 01:15:57 PM

mga fellow drummers kung kayo ang tatanungin about sa fingerprints sa cymbals to be specific sa mga k custom zildjian ano ang pinakamagandang paraan para mawala yun at  mag mukhang bago ulit kahit konti..  matatanggal ba ang mga logo's dun? tnx

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diadem on April 19, 2008, 01:33:40 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on November 15, 2007, 09:51:05 AM

wahahaha yes i did say something like that (sobrang hithit ko yata sa car freshner yun)

glo is abrasive yes, nakakasira ng finish pero siguro psychological lang yung nagbabago tunog ng cymbal kapag binuff mo ng glo. kasi di ba pinapalo nga ng martilyo yung cymbal para magbago ng tunog? ano ba naman effect nung punasan mo lang sya di ba?

ang pinakaconcern lang about using glo e bumaba yung value ng cymbal kapag naisipan mong ibenta lalo na kung nabura na yung logo. pero drummer ka ba o businessman/collector? hehehe anyway, to each his own

ive been using GLO eversince... once a year kong ginagawa. and yeah.. ang pinagkaiba lang sa zildjian cleaner... its orange and its less harmful sa ilong... hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on April 19, 2008, 03:51:11 PM

hndi kaya matanggal yung mga logos ng cymbals pag zildjian ang ginamit? saka nakakaitim ba ng cymbals yun pag mnsan lang nilinis... for instance 1 a year lng...tnx

Title: HELP: Advice pano tanggaling ang stain sa cast cymbals..
Post by: dimpen on April 23, 2008, 10:54:56 AM

pano po kaya matatanggal ung parang stain na libag sa cast cymbal? matagal na kase mga cymbals ko mga 80's pa. pero kahit linisin ko ng zildjian cymbal cleaner wa epek pa rin e. any advice na pwede ko gamitin na cleaner without affecting the cymbal's sound? gusto ko sna bumalik ung dating kulay nya. para mag open up din ung sound nya. help people! salamat!!

Title: Re: HELP: Advice pano tanggaling ang stain sa cast cymbals..
Post by: kibohead on April 23, 2008, 11:20:45 AM

sir gud day po. suggest ko po yung kerosene for brilliant finish...wd40 pwede sa traditional finish...rinse with soap after. Towel dry.  I find these safer to logos. But im not that sure if they are as effective as cymbal cleaners when it comes to fingermark stains.

I have been using this with my cymbals for 3 yrs now. So far, i haven't seen any bad effects.

Title: Re: HELP: Advice pano tanggaling ang stain sa cast cymbals..
Post by: dimpen on April 23, 2008, 12:43:12 PM

sir kibohead, salamat sa advice. hehe astig!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on June 11, 2008, 10:33:04 PM

sir ask ko lang kung pwede gamitin yung zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rastah on June 12, 2008, 09:02:04 AM

sir question lang bakit ganu yung cymbals ko nag build up ng kulay green thingy feeling ko parang pawis ata yun na natuyo ano bang magandang ilagay dun para matangal nag try ako baby oil mukang di kaya kasi hinnatangal kumintab lang TIA!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on June 12, 2008, 09:15:38 AM

cleaned them using brass cleaner

before:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/rhamen28/DSC06027.jpg)

after:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/rhamen28/DSC06029.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y104/rhamen28/DSC06031.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pmack on June 12, 2008, 10:34:32 AM

@rhanen28:

hindi naman nag-iba yung tunog ng cymbal mo bro? in my opinion, parang masayadong matapang yung mga brass cleaners na nabibili sa mga hardware shops para magamit sa cymbals.

@rastah:

"patina" yung tawag sa green stuff na yun. and sa experience ko nagkakaron ng ganun sa cymbals pag napatakan ng tubig or kahit anong liquid (including pawis) and hindi agad napunasan.

warm water and powdered soap lang gamit ko pag naglilinis ng cymbals. yung soft sponge yung gamit ko pang-apply ng soapwater mixture sa cymbals tapos circular motion yung paglinis ko. pinupunasan at pinapatuyo ko agad right after cleaning.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rhanen28 on June 12, 2008, 10:35:47 AM

Quote from: pmack on June 12, 2008, 10:34:32 AM

@rhanen28:

hindi naman nag-iba yung tunog ng cymbal mo bro? in my opinion, parang masayadong matapang yung mga brass cleaners na nabibili sa mga hardware shops para magamit sa cymbals.

mas naging bright sya, kesa sa dati parang mag lumakas yung volume din

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: tranquildomain on June 12, 2008, 11:05:32 AM

sa pag linis ko naman i use Zjildian cymbal cleaner

tapos maintenance ng kintab WD40

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: plep on June 12, 2008, 12:35:41 PM

ako na lang ba ang natitirang fan ng patina? hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on June 12, 2008, 07:41:52 PM

Quote from: nickmar on June 11, 2008, 10:33:04 PM

sir ask ko lang kung pwede gamitin yung zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals?

wala ba diyan na mabait na co drummer na sasagot sa tanong ko ng ito :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cradleofklien on June 12, 2008, 07:45:37 PM

Quote from: nickmar on June 12, 2008, 07:41:52 PM

wala ba diyan na mabait na co drummer na sasagot sa tanong ko ng ito :lol:

sa tingin tol hinid pwede gamitan zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals.. sa pag kaka alam ko mag iiba kulay ng mga cymbals mo pag ginamitan mo nyang zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals mo..  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on June 12, 2008, 09:19:05 PM

Quote from: nickmar on June 11, 2008, 10:33:04 PM

sir ask ko lang kung pwede gamitin yung zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals?

I once used a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner on a Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal, and the result is a clean shine with no side effects.  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on June 12, 2008, 09:47:32 PM

sinubukan ko ung nilagang cymbals. okey naman siya tapos ko patuyuin yun, nilagyan ko na ng polisher. mas maganda ung pagkaka kintab.

anybody here. paano po malilinis ung part na cowbell na? hirap kasi at mga finger prints din?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on June 13, 2008, 06:31:20 PM

Quote from: drumster on June 12, 2008, 09:19:05 PM

I once used a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner on a Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal, and the result is a clean shine with no side effects.  :-)

sigurado ka ditobro?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pmack on June 13, 2008, 06:41:41 PM

Quote from: drumster on June 12, 2008, 09:19:05 PM

I once used a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner on a Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal, and the result is a clean shine with no side effects.  :-)

bro DIO, i used sabian spray-on cymbal cleaner naman once on my Avdeis crash. swabeng-swabe rin yung kintab.. :-)  sigurado ako.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on June 13, 2008, 06:42:32 PM

Quote from: pmack on June 13, 2008, 06:41:41 PM

bro DIO, i used sabian spray-on cymbal cleaner din once on my Avdeis crash. swabeng-swabe rin yung kintab.. :-)  sigurado ako.

salamat dito..pwede kaya yung kahit hindi spray?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumster on June 14, 2008, 03:50:53 PM

Quote from: nickmar on June 13, 2008, 06:31:20 PM

sigurado ka ditobro?

Yup, 100% positive.  I cleaned it myself.  :-)

Zildjian and Sabian's cast cymbals pretty much follow the same B20 formula.  I guess as long as the cleaner is formulated for B20 cast cymbals, it will work nicely.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: wireme on June 14, 2008, 05:36:51 PM

pwede kaya yung zildjian cleaner sa staggs? thanks!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nickmar on June 14, 2008, 11:54:04 PM

Quote from: drumster on June 14, 2008, 03:50:53 PM

Yup, 100% positive.  I cleaned it myself.  :-)

Zildjian and Sabian's cast cymbals pretty much follow the same B20 formula.  I guess as long as the cleaner is formulated for B20 cast cymbals, it will work nicely.

thank you very much :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dabomb on July 01, 2008, 04:25:59 PM

mga bro if you have a very old cymbals try nyo kalamansi or dalanghita hatiin mo sa dalawa then punas mo ng circular motion hanggang lumabas ung dati nyang finish, tapos rinse it with water then punasan ng dry cloth...subukan nyo din kung ok . u

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ratamacue on July 11, 2008, 02:26:32 PM

kinamatisang cymbals..try it..slice into two..then wipe in a circular motion..kamatis is well-known for cleaning ung mga basyo ng bala ng firearms..
thanks to tutle 4 this info. :evil:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on July 14, 2008, 01:43:20 AM

ayus to ah, effective ba talaga bro? anong resulta? kumikintab talaga? :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dabomb on July 22, 2008, 08:55:12 AM

how to restore old worn out cymbals in a jiff.... :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dabomb on July 22, 2008, 09:10:32 AM

applicable only to cymbals that are old and worn out..works good on traditional finishes..

things you need :
1 kilo dalanghita or dalandan--green one
strong running water
soap and soft sponge
dry clean cloth

procedure:
step 1:cut dalandan in half then in a circular motion rub it on your cymbal start from the top hole...observe while doing this..
step 2:rinse thoroughly with soap and water....kailangan marinse talaga mabuti kasi kung hindi may matitirang asim ng dalandan..
step 3: let it dry..apply zildjian cleaner its up to you...

hindi na ako makaka upload ng pics mga bro kasi wala na akong cymbals na lilinisin nabenta ko na...baka lang makatulong lang sa inyo ito... tnx
 

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: patchdpogi on July 24, 2008, 01:48:14 AM

ginagawa ko pagkakabit ko cymbal ko may basahan ako... same din sa pag tanggal. tas after ng gig, derecho punas na.

ok lang kaya yun?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: treb 821 on July 24, 2008, 09:14:41 AM

Right, use gloves, the kind you buy sa hardware stores, it is very cheap. This way the cymbals won't get stained by our acidic sweat! :roll:

Title: cymbals Cleaner san ba nakakabili nun?
Post by: notsohugz on September 09, 2008, 04:20:50 PM

help nman kc un ZBT 20" ko mdyo ngbbrown na ala ng kintab

Title: Re: cymbals Cleaner san ba nakakabili nun?
Post by: jefisipbata on September 09, 2008, 04:22:00 PM

sa jb may zildjian cymbal cleaner sila.

Title: Re: cymbals Cleaner san ba nakakabili nun?
Post by: kimpoy19 on September 09, 2008, 05:14:56 PM

sa JB, mga 500php yun,
pero meron ding substitute sa cymbal cleaner.

yung suggestion ni sir peeves na NILAGANG CYMBALS,

try mo hanapin yung ginawang topik about sa cymbal cleaning. 

Title: Re: cymbals Cleaner san ba nakakabili nun?
Post by: bugoy on September 09, 2008, 05:26:39 PM

OT question, may nakita akong cymbal cleaner sa lazer d'andrea yata ? ok lang ba gamitin sa mga sabian yon ?

Title: Re: cymbals Cleaner san ba nakakabili nun?
Post by: notsohugz on September 09, 2008, 07:14:06 PM

500php aw ahahaha ... nasa my stack cla ngaun ... nkapagsisi kc un ZBT ko pangit na tingnan ahaha astig pa nman sa mga gig ang Super kintab na Cymbals :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nathan_rocks on September 09, 2008, 10:36:32 PM

mga sir,, hindi ba magiiba tunog ng cymbals ko dun sa nilaga? at ung logos hindi ba mabubura??

And regarding naman sa kalamansi hindi ba nagfafade ung color at hindi nabuburA ang logo pagginamitan ng kalamansi?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: forerunnermusic on September 10, 2008, 02:41:04 PM

in TMS,Hi-fi lounge and SPL, the VATER Cymbal cleaner is available

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: nathan_rocks on September 10, 2008, 08:19:58 PM

thanks mga sir....

Title: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: jckazs on October 08, 2009, 03:15:46 AM

Decided to sell my crash cymbal recently...kaya lang merong mark yung top part ng cymbal dahil sa neoprene cymbal mutes na ginamit ko a few months ago. Ganun din yung hi hat ko. Didn't really bother to clean it when I discovered the stain dahil cosmetic lang naman problema. Pero since bebenta ko sinubukan ko linisin. ginawa kong guinea pig yung hihat ko since pareho lang condition. I tried tried a cymbal cleaner, no effect. I also tried applying acetone to a small portion of the affected area to see kung matatangal...same result. searched for other ways of cleaning. me nakita kong post about using lemons pang linis. I was hesistant at 1st..kung acetone nga hindi maalis yung dumi lemon pa? Pero swerte dahil meron lemon sa bahay. 2 lemons lang ginamit ko...cut in half...squeezed and collected the juice. yung lemon halves yung ginamit ko pang apply nung lemon juice. dinip ko yung isang half sa juice then ran it across the affected area. Tangal agad yung stain ilang pahid pa lang...kung gagawin nyo, check nyo din yung lemon half...palitan mo kung madumi na. Iwan nyo lang yung lemon for 5 to 10 mins. then rinse with warm water. Just repeat the cycle kung hindi ka satisfied sa resulta.  

Just add salt...
Kung gusto nyo naman i accelerate yung aging ng cymbal mo haluan mo ng non-iodized salt yung lemon juice (not sure kung puede din iodized). haluin mo then apply mo sa surface ng cymbal. Let it sit longer...yung iba ata isang araw bago alisin yung solution. You'll see results quickly...meron daw lalabas na green spots sa surface a few hours after application.
...instant patina. It should make your cymbal dry and dark. Puede nyo din subukan sa metal snare drum nyo. I'm just not sure kung same result sa lahat ng types ng metal  :-)

Ito yung before and after (available pa yan by the way hehe) --- both pics were taken only yesterday

(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/jckazs/DreamBliss.jpg) (http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p278/jckazs/Dreambliss3.jpg)

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: wilpredo on October 08, 2009, 05:43:14 AM

na-try ko to dati, cguro mga 7 years ago, luminis ung cymbal tapos tama ung sinabi mo na may lumalabas na green spots. kaso nagkaroon ako ng problem dahil sa kakalinis ko nasira ung natural color nung cymbal nagkaroon ng black spots nung tumagal and nagsuffer ung tunog. siguro dahil din sa sobrang paglilinis ko gamit ang lemon haha  :lol: try nyo din calamansi, pwede yun  :-D

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: drumachine on October 08, 2009, 08:41:17 PM

siguro nagli-leave din sya ng invisible stains na later on, magdedevelop into patina.

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: paeng16 on October 08, 2009, 08:57:30 PM

no flames bro!! pero I've tried lemon, calamansi and other citrus pero wala naman eh.. lumagkit lang...

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: jckazs on October 09, 2009, 12:16:34 PM

Depende din siguro sa coating ng cymbal at pag apply ng solution. in my case wala din lumabas na mark. pero iba naman yung intention ko kaya ko ginawa. Ginawa ko para matanggal yung stain.
baka kailangan iwan ng masmatagal yung lemon and salt to produce results in case yung patina yung habol mo talaga. Plus dapat ata multiple times mo gawin para talagang mawala yung coating sa surface ng cymbal. Once wala na yung coating dun papasok yung salt. Yun yung magiging cause ng oxidation.

Kung ayaw pa din bili ka na ng tequila para magamit mo pa din yung natitirang lemon at salt  :-)

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: sjon014 on October 09, 2009, 12:41:57 PM

Depende ata talaga sa model and coating ng cymbal.

Lemon + baking soda worked wonders on my cast Saluda Splash and my XS20 Crash. Pero di gumana sa Paiste ko. :lol:

Ganun lang talaga, I guess. Experimentation until makuha. :-D

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: bugoy on October 09, 2009, 01:01:38 PM

lemonade kaya yung tinitimpla pwede ? may acid din yun diba ?

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: jckazs on October 10, 2009, 01:35:00 AM

Puede din ata. kaya lang baka hindi as effective ng actual lemon. ok siguro yung juice kung gusto mo talaga ilubog yung cymbal

@sjon014  -- pano ok yung effect sir? nagpatina ba o nalinis yung surface?

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: sjon014 on October 10, 2009, 01:53:47 AM

@jckazs: I didn't use salt by the way. Hindi nag-Patina. Natanggal yung stick marks and finger prints - something Windex failed to do. I won't say na-polish, but then again, traditional finish yung mga nalinis ko. :-D

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: alesana05 on October 13, 2009, 02:53:43 PM

depende sa type ng cymbal siguro yan,kasi nung ginamitan ko ng calamansi ung Planet Z crashride sa church tanggal agad ung dumi.

Title: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 01:37:06 PM

Hello mga sir! I just want to clarify the effect of this metal polish on cymbals? I bought kasi a Sabian Xs20 Crash Cymbal from a someone here sa forums. When I inspected it, faded na yung logo niya, it was the only one with a blurry logo sa mga sinesell niya. Ang akala ko dahil sa kalumaan, but when I texted him once I got home, to my horror he said he had been using GLO, the metal polisher on this cymbal! Sa mukha nung logo, mukhang matagal-tagal narin niyang ginagamit yung GLO, I tried researching about its effects, but some seem to say that it's alright but some say it can cause adverse effects. I'm a bit confused right now so I'd like to ask for help. Ang pagkakaalam ko kasi masama ang kahit anong metal polisher sa cymbals dahil ninipis siya. Any comments mga sir? Thanks in advance.  :-)

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: carl20 on October 17, 2009, 02:12:08 PM

I have a similar incident before, I used to have an 18 proj crash cymbal and Im maintaining it by using GLO polish, first the results are ok, I always have a very shinny cymbal every gig, after some months in continuously polishing with it, the crash became very thin and uneven, well I did not blame it that time to the polish Im using, maybe its just the beating everytime I hit the crash, I continued the polishing every now and then and noticed that some of the particles of the cymbal had been polished out bit by bit by the said polishing solution, until it came to a point that my crash gave in and had a very huge crack. I noticed the crack was so thin and looked very fragile, maybe the cymbal could not take it anymore and just gave in.

I got another set of cymbals K session crash and a K dark ride, this time Im leaving them it as it is. hehehe!

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: intake on October 17, 2009, 02:21:17 PM

sir carl20...how thin does it look now? do you mind sharing some pictures? if you dont mind... naiintriga ako dito
and bakit siya gumagamit ng GLO eh kung may cymbal cleaner naman?

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 02:32:09 PM

yung binili ko sa kanya, I use it sa practice and sa gig, okay naman, very bright sounding and wala pa namang bad sound. Pero, natatakot parin ako sa long term effects nung GLO.  :-(

sir carl, gaano po katagal bago nagcrack?

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: carl20 on October 17, 2009, 02:39:41 PM

mga bossing...

I used GLO for almost 3mos. after the crack surfaced, unfortunately I dont have the pictures anymore..

bro kung pwede ko lang ibalik ang kahapon sana cymbal cleaner na lang ginamit ko hehehe! cheesy! and maybe minsan minsan ko lang sya lilinisin minsan habang lumuluma itsura nya mas masarap ang tunog ng cymbal eh hehehe!

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: vincher on October 17, 2009, 06:56:01 PM

from what i know. may metal particles na nakamix sa GLO, so parang nabubuff sya. stay away from GLO for cymbals. better use baking soda

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: suspendead on October 17, 2009, 09:06:33 PM

GLO Metal Polish has an abrasive component on it which makes metal shinny but in the long run it makes the metal thinner. The abrasive compound in GLO even remove the chrome on other objects like shower knobs, cymbal stands,etc.

Reminder: Never ever use GLO on cymbals. If money is not an object then by all means, use it but if you are the type of person that saves money with blood, sweat and tears just to buy a cymbal or any drum equipment then take good care of them. For goodness sake, stay away from GLO.


Just my advise, hope it helps...

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:11:42 PM

Grabe, cleaned my cymbals today with the usual baking soda treatment, now this is how to clean a cymbal  :wink:

Haay, badtrip naman talaga, just thinking about how he used GLO on this cymbal kind of makes me feel betrayed, para bang feeling ko nalugi ako. I texted him many times on how long he used it on the cymbal, but only got one reply, he said that it's okay because the cymbal still sounds good. Kitang-kita na iniiwasan yung subject.  :-(

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: suspendead on October 17, 2009, 09:17:16 PM

Just for my curiousity, di ko pakasi natry to eh but what is the process on cleaning a cymbal using baking soda? Im used to just using a piece of cloth everytime im done playing eh.

By the way,I have this neighbor who uses WD40 in cleaning his cymbals, can anybody enlighten us if this is ok or not. Thanks...

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: pmack on October 17, 2009, 09:33:19 PM

i have a friend that uses DW40 on his cymbals too.
pero not to clean, but to protect it from dirt, or so he says.
basically, lubricant ATA ang WD40, so kung makalinis man siya, hindi siguro 100%.
my friend used WD40 just to give the cymbal a thin sort of "film" para hindi kapitan ng dirt or worse, patina.

again, experience ko lang ito.
hope that helped.

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results.  :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.  :wink:

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.  :|

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: samscapular on October 17, 2009, 09:41:35 PM

Ask ko lang hindi naman ba nagiging brittle yung metal pag sinasubmerge sa tubig?pero mas ok ata to kesa sa GLO since 10 mins mo lang naman isasubmerge.Ma try nga.. :-)

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: suspendead on October 17, 2009, 09:44:13 PM

Quote from: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results.  :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.  :wink:

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.  :|

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

How much baking sode should you put?

By the way, grabe tama ng XS20 mo bro...

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:51:15 PM

Grabe noh sir? Kaya nga naasar talaga ako kasi mukhang matagal-tagal din niyang ginamitan ng GLO yung Xs20. Haay buhay...

About the amount, I'm not sure exactly how much, pero it depends on how much water there is, you'll know once you see na nagmix na yung buong tubig dun sa baking soda.

About the cymbals becoming brittle, ang alam ko hindi, tried and trusted na itong method sa pagkakaalam ko. Tsaka nung highschool inexperiment namin to sa chemistry lab, pinadala kami nung mga sobrang duming coins, yung tipong black na sila, then binabad sa warm water, ayun, ang galing nalinis nga talaga siya. Later on ko lang nalaman na rinerecommend din siya sa cymbals. I found this method on other Pinoy drum forums. Tsaka hindi naman hot yung water eh, lukewarm lang siya kaya hindi iinit yung cymbals :-)

edit: Okay, it's been really bugging me, since I've never used GLO I wouldn't know but, how long do you guys think has he been using it on that Xs20 based from the pic?

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 18, 2009, 01:43:24 AM

Quote from: samscapular on October 17, 2009, 09:41:35 PM

Ask ko lang hindi naman ba nagiging brittle yung metal pag sinasubmerge sa tubig?pero mas ok ata to kesa sa GLO since 10 mins mo lang naman isasubmerge.Ma try nga.. :-)

sige sir try niyo, recommend ko talaga. show us rin your results after.  :-)

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: intake on October 18, 2009, 01:47:04 AM

dun sa WD40 wala naman akong naiisip na nakakasira sa cymbal since hindi naman nakakapag corrode ng metal yun  :-)
i guess pwede na siyang protectant  :-D

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: mr. trigger on October 18, 2009, 02:21:22 AM

also try "WIPE OUT dirt and stain remover" available sa ace hardware. ok naman sya sa mga cymbals ko,kumikintab din after

mapunasan.lalo na sa mga libag na nakukuha sa palo ng sticks. after gig pinupunasan ko agad using wipe out

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumachine on October 18, 2009, 03:08:04 AM

Quote from: intake on October 18, 2009, 01:47:04 AM

dun sa WD40 wala naman akong naiisip na nakakasira sa cymbal since hindi naman nakakapag corrode ng metal yun  :-)
i guess pwede na siyang protectant  :-D

yup. i've tried this before sa mga traditional cymbals. less finger prints kasi magdadalawang isip ka hawakan yung cymbal. hehe. basta wag lang sa maalikabok, ok to. ang besides, WD40 is water based kaya no worries.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: suspendead on October 18, 2009, 08:01:58 AM

Quote from: drumachine on October 18, 2009, 03:08:04 AM

yup. i've tried this before sa mga traditional cymbals. less finger prints kasi magdadalawang isip ka hawakan yung cymbal. hehe. basta wag lang sa maalikabok, ok to. ang besides, WD40 is water based kaya no worries.

I see, i'll probably try it out on my old broken cymbals before I try it on my good cymbals hehehe, buti na yung sigurado para di magsisi hehehe...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pmack on October 18, 2009, 08:02:18 AM

Quote from: mr. trigger on October 18, 2009, 02:21:22 AM

also try "WIPE OUT dirt and stain remover" available sa ace hardware. ok naman sya sa mga cymbals ko,kumikintab din after

mapunasan.lalo na sa mga libag na nakukuha sa palo ng sticks. after gig pinupunasan ko agad using wipe out

i've tried this before, but parang feeling ko may back effects sa cymbal not unlike ng GLO.
pero baka napraning lang ako. hehehe.
bumalik na lang din ako sa normal na cymbal cleaner.

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: chrism_rivera on October 21, 2009, 01:42:56 PM

Quote from: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results.  :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.  :wink:

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.  :|

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

Sir, hindi ba affected yung logo pag ginawa itong procedure na ito?

Pano maiiwasang mabura yung logo if you are using cymbal cleaner?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 21, 2009, 04:38:24 PM

Nope, ang alam ko wala talaga siyang effects sa cymbals. For as long as I remember, mga metal polishers lang talaga ang may bad effects with cymbals and the logo too. Nagstick na talaga ako dito sa Baking Soda method ever since.

Title: Re: GLO (Metal Polish) on cymbals.
Post by: nivek518 on October 24, 2009, 04:07:20 AM

Quote from: omnicloud7 on October 17, 2009, 09:33:33 PM

Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results.  :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.

1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done.  :wink:

Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO.  :|

(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)

ayos 'tong method na to. tatry ko mamaya.  :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on October 24, 2009, 04:30:57 AM

yup ayos talaga. post mo pics ng results  :-D parequest ng before and after pics.

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: jazon31 on November 02, 2009, 01:18:43 PM

ah

astig pla yun

 :-D

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: mahikawon666 on November 04, 2009, 08:51:34 AM

masubukan nga.....

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: kentalfeche on November 04, 2009, 10:23:14 AM

proven and tested ko na 2... i used kalamansi to clean my cymbals before ko binenta

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: mahikawon666 on November 04, 2009, 10:59:33 AM

Quote from: kentalfeche on November 04, 2009, 10:23:14 AM

proven and tested ko na 2... i used kalamansi to clean my cymbals before ko binenta

hahaha bentahan mo ko isang sako ah......very good tip!!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 12, 2009, 04:49:31 AM

sir wala bang paraan para ndi mabura ung tatak ng cymbals?? la lang sayang eh

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: jcberedo on November 12, 2009, 08:19:58 AM

Quote from: otepandrew on November 12, 2009, 04:49:31 AM

sir wala bang paraan para ndi mabura ung tatak ng cymbals?? la lang sayang eh

Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 12, 2009, 10:07:07 AM

Quote from: jcberedo on November 12, 2009, 08:19:58 AM

Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.

sino po un sir??

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumachine on November 12, 2009, 10:21:27 AM

sya yung astig na may sikretong paraan kung pano iballik ang kintab sa iyong pompyang. PM mo na lang sya kapag magpapalinis ka. hehe.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 12, 2009, 05:38:42 PM

Quote from: jcberedo on November 12, 2009, 08:19:58 AM

Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.

busy ba un sir?? di kasi nakakapagreply sa pm ko eh

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 12, 2009, 08:12:26 PM

nasbukan ko yan. Atig nga eh.  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 13, 2009, 04:17:08 AM

ano nga pong baking soda sa tagalog???

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: paeng16 on November 13, 2009, 09:42:42 AM

alam ko nag post na ako dito before... so this will be an update to my post..

WD40 - it works pero kinabukasan, may mga RAINBOW na yung cymbals mo.. and if unattended, maging mancha yung rainbow na yun. (so sablay to in the long run, pero sa madalian or mabilisang linis, pwede na to).

GLO - nakaka linis din to at parang DW40 din ang effect where sandali lang eh nagkaka stain agad. This is what I really don't recommend. masisira cymbals mo dito sa prolonged use.

Lemon or other citrus fruits - Eto minimal lang ang effect then malagkit pero FRESH SMELLING na cymbals mo! hahaha..

Baking sode - I haven't tried this..

Oxalic - Eto kung gusto mong mag AGE yung cymbals mo.. eto gamitin mo! hehe.. Pero the best ito sa mga hardwares like lugs, rims, stand, etc.

Lazer cheap-o cleaner - This is totally waste of 250 pesos.

Zildjian Cleaner - The best to, matrabaho, mahal pero ang end result naman eh malufet!! makintab at parang may coat sya ng protection (like wax) na hindi agad nag rurust/stain yung cymbal.

Sabian - I Haven't tried this.. kasi wala naman akong Sabian.

Jack's Sikrit_wipon_swiss_army_knife_ala_McGyver_cleaning method - ETO ANG THE BEST!!!   :-D



Pero the best CARE you can give your cymbal is...
Play it properly
- Hwag hatawin ng sobrang lakas (ex. yung splash na 12 eh hinahataw na parang CRASH)
- Mount it looooooosely sa stand, hwag i-choke. otherwise mag crack yan.
- Don't hit it DIRECTLY in the middle or at the edge. (glancing motion is the best).
- Avoid metal to metal contact (during transpo or during mounting atthe stand).
- buy a decent paded bag for your pies...

hope this helps..  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 13, 2009, 05:38:16 PM

Quote from: jcberedo on November 12, 2009, 08:19:58 AM

Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.

ok na hehe papalinis na ako kay boss autoxec mura lang

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Stylee on December 10, 2009, 11:51:21 PM

This has been my problem for 24 years in my drumming careeer until i accidentally found a solution. Tide Ultra and MC metal polish lang bro. Wag ka gagamit ng GLO masisira cymbals mo kasi highly corrosive ang GLO.
Procedure:
Magpabula ka ng Tide Ultra sa basin tapos ibabad mo cymbals mo ng mga 30 minutes then punasan mo parang hinihilod. Tapos banlawan mo at punasan hanggang sa matuyo. Tapos lagyan mo ng MC metal polish Php 54 pesos lang yun sa Ace Hardware yung cymbals ko tagal ko na ginanyan hindi pa rin nasira yung natural finish nya. ganda ng effect sa cymbal ko. Tried and tested formula ko yan bahala na kayo mag decide kung gagawin nyo o hindi pero para sa akin it worked kesa bumili ka ng cymbal cleaner na mamahalin. Practikalan lang yung sa akin bro. SALAMAT

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 16, 2009, 03:39:19 PM

my suggestion ako, y not use a driller (barena)  in cleaning a cymbals , for sure it will shine as hell
parang ganito

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: glennaui on December 16, 2009, 05:25:29 PM

up ko itong thread na ito.. ganda ng mga tips!!!1 :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on December 17, 2009, 01:10:45 PM

the best cleaner i know so far is the solution used to clean jewelry. sobrang mahal nga lang kahit sa divisoria bumili. clear liquid sya na nasa maliit na bote...250 pataas ang presyo nun. mas mahal kung sa gumagawa ng alahas bibilin.

sobrang kintab ng cymbal mo nun kahit konting pahid pero ingat sa logo kasi mabilis din matatanggal yun.

wag nyo na nga lang ako tanungin kung ano yung exact na tawag dun at kung saan sa divisoria binili kasi di na maalala. binigay lang ni ermat yung tira nya sa kin.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rizen on December 17, 2009, 04:37:21 PM

Quote from: peeves24 on December 17, 2009, 01:10:45 PM

the best cleaner i know so far is the solution used to clean jewelry. sobrang mahal nga lang kahit sa divisoria bumili. clear liquid sya na nasa maliit na bote...250 pataas ang presyo nun. mas mahal kung sa gumagawa ng alahas bibilin.

sobrang kintab ng cymbal mo nun kahit konting pahid pero ingat sa logo kasi mabilis din matatanggal yun.

wag nyo na nga lang ako tanungin kung ano yung exact na tawag dun at kung saan sa divisoria binili kasi di na maalala. binigay lang ni ermat yung tira nya sa kin.

sayang sana natandaan nyo sir.  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 17, 2009, 05:34:28 PM

use a driller, the best,

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on December 18, 2009, 05:23:59 PM

anong driller? pic?

Quote from: rizen on December 17, 2009, 04:37:21 PM

sayang sana natandaan nyo sir.  :-D

bro tanong mo gumagawa/nagrerepair ng alahas kung ano yung metal polish na ginagamit nya. metal polish din kasi yun.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 20, 2009, 01:33:44 PM

gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...

curious din ako dun sa driller :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on December 20, 2009, 02:03:31 PM

hindi driller,alam ko pang butas yun ehh.
baka grinder,tapos gamit nya buffer wheel
yung gingamit sa machine shop pam-pakintab ng stainless steel.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bonzter on December 20, 2009, 02:10:12 PM

Quote from: cheezemonster08 on December 20, 2009, 02:03:31 PM

hindi driller,alam ko pang butas yun ehh.
baka grinder,tapos gamit nya buffer wheel
yung gingamit sa machine shop pam-pakintab ng stainless steel.

Mismo! tompak! yan nga!  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on December 22, 2009, 03:10:12 PM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 20, 2009, 01:33:44 PM

gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...

curious din ako dun sa driller :?

yep isa pa yang mala paste na metal polish. mga wala kasing brand e kaya hirap tandaan. kaya lang mas makintab talaga yung clear na liquid kesa dun sa paste.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 22, 2009, 06:19:04 PM

i just bought a 20 yrs old cymbals, grabe sobrang kulay brown na siya sa sobrang kalumaan,
1st i used a metal polish and brushed it with a steel brush, and nawala yung color brown nya,
after that i used a driller + a buffing compound
after that pinunasan ko siya ng basahan na may thinner
and presto parang brand new na ulit yung cymbals =)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: numberfortyone on December 22, 2009, 08:24:14 PM

driller daw eh   :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 22, 2009, 09:22:04 PM

yup driller, tapos may basahan na umiikot dun sa itaas ng driller

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on December 22, 2009, 09:54:26 PM

ganito ba itsura nun??

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2rw290w.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: smarty on December 22, 2009, 11:43:02 PM

Quote from: cheezemonster08 on December 22, 2009, 09:54:26 PM

ganito ba itsura nun??

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2rw290w.jpg)

korek

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on December 23, 2009, 12:21:00 AM

astig yung drill! kaso mukang malaki ang risk sa aksidente.. :-/

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: chrism_rivera on December 23, 2009, 07:07:04 AM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 20, 2009, 01:33:44 PM

gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...

curious din ako dun sa driller :?

anong brand sir?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 23, 2009, 08:06:41 AM

Quote from: autoexec on December 23, 2009, 12:21:00 AM

astig yung drill! kaso mukang malaki ang risk sa aksidente.. :-/

nope dalawa naman kaming gumagawa, yun isa tiga hawak ng drill yun isa tagahawak ng cymbals
kaya ayon, and yung drill nakapatong lang sya sa lamesa tapos hinahawakan para nde gumalaw

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on December 23, 2009, 08:28:11 AM

nakakatakot ung drill :cry: maputol pa kamay mo di ka pa makadrums

tulong enge naman tulong para malinis tong cymbals ko daming stickmarks  :roll:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rizen on December 23, 2009, 10:56:47 AM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 20, 2009, 01:33:44 PM

gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...

curious din ako dun sa driller :?

san ka nakabili nito?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumachine on December 23, 2009, 03:17:28 PM

buffing pad nga eh. ang luket! haha. nami-misinterpret tuloy.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 23, 2009, 03:44:45 PM

Quote from: rizen on December 23, 2009, 10:56:47 AM

san ka nakabili nito?

sa inyong suking silver shop wehehehe.. mas ok daw ung liquid sabi ni papa peeves... interested din ako dun tuloy kelan kaya makapunta sa divisoria...

@ the pic... that is not a drill... nor it be a driller :d that is an angle grinder with a buffing wheel/pad attachment

a guitar luthier (mang max rufo of guitar central) uses a multilayer of maong disks, one on top of the other and attached to an airconditioner motor, he uses this as a buffing wheel... ok naman results hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: katrinahaliliexperience on December 23, 2009, 11:37:36 PM

try nyo toilet duck cleaner ...try nyo mna sa lumang cymbals..or planetz :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: giftmones on December 24, 2009, 12:13:52 AM

 :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 24, 2009, 01:30:19 PM

the "driller" experience here we go

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0019.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0020.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0021.jpg)

bili pa kong polish mmaya so mamaya ko pa masusubukan talaga to hehehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on December 24, 2009, 03:42:41 PM

kagaya nya yung cymbal cleaning machine sa youtube
pero hindi ba parang masyadong mabilis ikot nyan?

Title: Re: Lemon --- Effective Low-Cost Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: jzaina16 on December 24, 2009, 08:07:17 PM

nyahahahaha.... ako rin pareserve ng isang sako, yahahaha...  :-D peace dude!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 24, 2009, 09:08:23 PM

Quote from: cheezemonster08 on December 24, 2009, 03:42:41 PM

kagaya nya yung cymbal cleaning machine sa youtube
pero hindi ba parang masyadong mabilis ikot nyan?

mabilis parin naman... post ako ng pics later... nalinis ko na mga cymbals ko using this little thing hehehe... the speed depends sa charge ng drill :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 26, 2009, 06:37:51 PM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 24, 2009, 09:08:23 PM

mabilis parin naman... post ako ng pics later... nalinis ko na mga cymbals ko using this little thing hehehe... the speed depends sa charge ng drill :D

sir ok dba? hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 27, 2009, 01:32:21 AM

Quote from: kasmoteer on December 26, 2009, 06:37:51 PM

sir ok dba? hehe

yes it does its job... only its called a "DRILL" not a driller... just fyi :D

the heavier cymbals may stress out the drill though... pag dating ko sa 16" crash (b8) mejo malikot na cya... pagdating sa ride mejo humina na, natakot na nga ako bka masunog ung drill heheh bagong uwi pa naman ni papa un ....  :-D

it would be better kung buffing pad/disk nalang ang gawin instead of mounting the cymbal itself sa drill. Ginawa ko lang to dahil parang ang saya tignan nung para kang nagle-lathe hahaha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on December 27, 2009, 01:52:30 AM

yun yung ginamit ko yung buffing pa hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rizen on December 29, 2009, 04:51:13 PM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 23, 2009, 03:44:45 PM

sa inyong suking silver shop wehehehe.. mas ok daw ung liquid sabi ni papa peeves... interested din ako dun tuloy kelan kaya makapunta sa divisoria...

@ the pic... that is not a drill... nor it be a driller :d that is an angle grinder with a buffing wheel/pad attachment

a guitar luthier (mang max rufo of guitar central) uses a multilayer of maong disks, one on top of the other and attached to an airconditioner motor, he uses this as a buffing wheel... ok naman results hehe

magkanu kaya?
ung nabibili ata sa unisilver ang mahal 70p..ang liit lang hahaha..
pakisabi naman anung store or address sa divisoria..para mahunting ko na

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 24, 2009, 01:30:19 PM

the "driller" experience here we go

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(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0020.jpg)
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bili pa kong polish mmaya so mamaya ko pa masusubukan talaga to hehehe

hindi ba delikado yang drill thing?
curious lang

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: g0d5_g1ft on December 29, 2009, 06:01:47 PM

@ rizen no hindi naman delikado basta alam mong ginagawa mo hehehe.. safer kung ung buffing pad ang ilalagay sa drill, un nga lang may chance na magkaron ng swirls ung cymbal hehehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: jirombaoa on December 31, 2009, 04:55:42 PM

totoo ba na kapag hindi mo nilinis ang cymbals eh gumaganda ang tunog? natatakot kasi ako linisin yung sa akin eh. natatakot ako baka mag-iba ang sound niya

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: redvillain on December 31, 2009, 09:48:00 PM

habang tumatagal lalong gumaganda ung tunog? alam ko sir sa skin ng drums un eh, ang alam ko sa mga cymbals natin eh na mmaintain ung sound nila pagka inaalagaan mo sila, pero gumaganda habang tumatagal? hmmm... i suggest that you clean your cymbals regularly para kahit papano eh hindi na masakop ng todo ng green stain ung cymbals natin. and ive read a book about using metal polish sa mga cymbals and it says na hindi daw tama un. whether ur cymbal is a brilliant finish one or not it will affect ur cymbal one way or another, i dont know, visually or maybe even sa sound mismo. ingatan niyo mga sir ung investment natin ang mahal kaya ng mga cymbals hehehe.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on January 02, 2010, 03:11:52 AM

Many believes that B20s specially Ks develop it's own character when you let it by itself without cleaning it.. Yung iba pa nga daw binabaon sa lupa para mapabilis yung aging? Hindi ako makakapag comment jan dahil wala naman akong mga Ks.. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on January 02, 2010, 04:54:53 AM

sa pagkakaalam ko. (opinion ko a, not sure :-D)


habang tumatagal, yung:
Sheet Bronze -> papanget ng papanget
Cast Bronze -> paganda ng paganda

for me anyway.  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: redvillain on January 04, 2010, 10:41:53 PM

Quote from: autoexec on January 02, 2010, 03:11:52 AM

Many believes that B20s specially Ks develop it's own character when you let it by itself without cleaning it.. Yung iba pa nga daw binabaon sa lupa para mapabilis yung aging? Hindi ako makakapag comment jan dahil wala naman akong mga Ks.. :-D

yes yes i think this is similar to benny greb's signature cymbal the "sand ride," they sand blast the cymbal to give it its unique look and sound, the cymbal looks old but sounds like almost like a K zildjian ride or maybe even better. sa youtube sir andun sya. i personally think dry cymbals sounds great. hindi sila maingay masyado.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on January 06, 2010, 04:53:43 AM

Yep, pero nasa music pa din, siyempre hindi mawawala yung mga tugtugan na kailangan ng cymbal na "maingay masyado". Hehehe.. Ewan ko, biased ako, hindi kasi ako talaga masyadong fan ng mga dry sounding cymbals, maliban na lang sa hats.. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on January 06, 2010, 04:55:12 AM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 29, 2009, 06:01:47 PM

@ rizen no hindi naman delikado basta alam mong ginagawa mo hehehe.. safer kung ung buffing pad ang ilalagay sa drill, un nga lang may chance na magkaron ng swirls ung cymbal hehehe

Kaso di ba aksaya sa buffing pad tol? Parang ang hirap ata linisin nun pag dumumi.. hehe.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on January 06, 2010, 01:18:07 PM

nasabi ko na to noon: i dont think accumulated dirt is enough hehehe. a crappy sounding cymbal today will still sound like crap after 50 years...only dirtier.

some will argue: play your cymbals para "gumanda" yung tunog same as old, well-played guitars having mojo.

but then again i dont think gumaganda ang tunog ng cymbal, nagbabago lang ang tunog nung mga bagong labas na cymbal because they dont make them like they used to example:

parang avedis nung 90's magaganda yun compared dun sa mga lumabas ng 2000 onwards. it doesnt mean na sobrang gumanda yung tunog nung 90's version dahil sa dumi at pagpalo, zildjian just changed the way the newer models were made and the new models sucked compared to the older ones.

did you think the Ks of today were made the same way as the older 50's and 60's Ks? i dont think so.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: autoexec on January 06, 2010, 04:11:40 PM

tumpak! Dapat talaga gumamit ng magandang klaseng mic, tapos yung cymbal mismo ang ikumpara sa sarili nya after 20 years of being dirty. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: peeves24 on January 06, 2010, 04:59:31 PM

mahirap yun pre, has to be the same mic, same position, same hand, same force hehehe.

we can all agree that all cymbals sound unique...so just pick the best sounding cymbal among the bunch. whether its clean or dirty, it will sound good because IT IS GOOD. only the good things endure because they become sought-after classics. i've heard vintage cymbals and they arent all that impressive, just old.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 06, 2010, 09:02:42 PM

ok ba pang linis yun WD-40? :-D
galing tanggal yung kalawang yung rim ng toms ko ehh
hindi naman kaya maapektuhan? :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: redvillain on January 09, 2010, 10:08:28 PM

hmm im not sure about wd-40, meron akong napanood na video sir tungkol sa paggamit ng wd-40 sa pedals ang sabi nung mga gumamit ng wd-40 parang nasira ung pedals nila... hindi ko lng alam sa cymbals pre. pero ako ill just buy that groove juice cymbal cleaner.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on January 09, 2010, 11:11:07 PM

groove juice can be used on any cymbal brand right?
yun na lang din gagamitin ko para sure  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: redvillain on January 10, 2010, 12:11:27 PM

uu sir kahit anong brand ng cymbal mo pwede, im not just sure if you can use it on a zildjian titanium cymbal. iba yata ung pang linis dun eh. but the rest i know it works. sa audiophil yata pre merong groove juice.

Title: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wilpredo on January 21, 2010, 03:49:13 AM

I just bought this Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish at JB music

(http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/86/DSC00081.JPG?et=dGbMTxA9rm0R0szpzX7e4A&nmid=9187545)

the cleaner is recommended for: K Custom, K, A Custom, Avedis, Z Custom, FX, ZXT, ZBT

instruction said: Apply polish sparingly to a cloth
apply to cymbal from cloth using light pressure.
black residue will appear on the surface of the cymbal
remove residue and polish with a clean soft cloth

Ginamit ko sya sa K Custom cymbal ko, and ganito yung nangyari

(http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/85/DSC00080.JPG?et=3YYEo8stszoNqZzPe3E3vA&nmid=9187545)

yung left side ng cymbal na nilagyan ko ng cleaner, instead na mawala yung black residue, pag pinupunasan ko lalong umiitim.

help naman mga bro, tnx!

:: paging sir autoexec, baka kaya mo linisin cymbal ko hehe  :-D

Title: Re: Need Help.
Post by: waya_drum on January 21, 2010, 03:52:35 AM

Sir,

Try mo palitan basahan na gamit mo. Natural na mgaka- black film yan. Magastos lang talaga sa basahan ang zildjian cleaner

Title: Re: Need Help.
Post by: wilpredo on January 21, 2010, 03:56:55 AM

bro, pinapalitan ko yung basahan na ginagamit ko sobrang gastos na nga e hehe malinis na cloth yung pinupunas ko dun sa black residue, bawat punas palit ng side ng cloth. kaso ganyan parin  :|

Title: Re: Need Help.
Post by: waya_drum on January 21, 2010, 04:45:18 AM

Bro, Sencia na kasi di ko ma view ung Pic sa Thread... pwede send mo sa email ko for me to better view it... its nco_que_nwrabanillo@hotmail.com

Title: Re: Need Help.
Post by: drummaniac on January 21, 2010, 09:18:55 AM

Quote from: wilpredo on January 21, 2010, 03:49:13 AM

I just bought this Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish at JB music

(http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/86/DSC00081.JPG?et=dGbMTxA9rm0R0szpzX7e4A&nmid=9187545)

the cleaner is recommended for: K Custom, K, A Custom, Avedis, Z Custom, FX, ZXT, ZBT

instruction said: Apply polish sparingly to a cloth
apply to cymbal from cloth using light pressure.
black residue will appear on the surface of the cymbal
remove residue and polish with a clean soft cloth

Ginamit ko sya sa K Custom cymbal ko, and ganito yung nangyari

(http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/85/DSC00080.JPG?et=3YYEo8stszoNqZzPe3E3vA&nmid=9187545)

yung left side ng cymbal na nilagyan ko ng cleaner, instead na mawala yung black residue, pag pinupunasan ko lalong umiitim.

help naman mga bro, tnx!

:: paging sir autoexec, baka kaya mo linisin cymbal ko hehe  :-D

Wahh....anubayan..parang nag ka-pimples. :oops:. Ganyan din nagyari sakin sa A custom ko

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wilpredo on January 25, 2010, 01:45:17 AM

bro sa picture lang yang mga pimples, ang problema ko talaga is yung nasa left side ng cymbal. kung mapapansin mo mejo nagiba yung kulay nya  :|

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: numberfortyone on January 25, 2010, 11:44:54 AM

hey bro.

ginamitan ko din yan sa traditional hats ko.
sablay.
ang hirap pati tanggalin yung black residue sa surface.
kung pagtiya-tiyagaan mo talaga punasan yung black residue, magiiba yung color niya and magiging mejo shiny.

imo, recommended lang siya for brilliant finished cymbals. not so much for traditional.

pero meron ako nakita dito sa forums ginamitan ni paeng16 yung zildjian cymbal cleaner sa avedis crash na traditional. he was able to make it clean and shiny. sana makakuha tayo ng tips sa kanya. paging paeng!  :-D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wireme on January 25, 2010, 01:18:34 PM

ganyan din nangyari sa mga k's ko before i think effective lang yan sa mga brilliant na cymbals(not sure though). kaya hindi nako naglilinis ng cymbals ngayon, puro punas na lang. subukan ko groove juice. :wink:

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: autoexec on January 26, 2010, 01:05:11 AM

naku po! :D Try mo banlawan bro, tapos gawin mo yung nilagang cymbals ni kuya peeves. ;) Pag ayaw pa rin palinis mo na sakin yan.. :-D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: waya_drum on January 26, 2010, 03:46:01 AM

sales talk? peace!

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: straightedgejep on January 26, 2010, 07:48:59 AM

sir sa tingin ko pag umiitim po siya gamit ka pa ng isang basahan na basa, una muna yung cleaner with dry tapos yun nga mangingitim, tapos punasan mo ng wet cloth. . ganyan din yung sa paiste cleaner ko pero pag ang aaply ako ng wet cloth nawawala na yung black, pero napakadaming basahan ang nauubos ko, hehe kaya pag tinatamad ako ang gamit ko yung groove juice, sobrang bilis!! takpan mo lang yung logo mo ng electrical tape, tapos pag spray mo toothbrushin mo lang tanggal kaagad wala pa 5 mins. .wala lang sir share ko lang  :-)

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wilpredo on January 26, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

@straightedgejep: bro ang problema kasi habang pinupunas ko pa lang yung cleaner nangingitim na so humahalo yung itimk dun sa natitirang cleaner. pag kinakalat ko na yung cleaner kulay itim na. try ko yung wet cloth, baka gumana hehe salamat bro  :-D

@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha  :lol:

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: autoexec on January 26, 2010, 03:58:56 PM

Quote from: waya_drum on January 26, 2010, 03:46:01 AM

sales talk? peace!

Wahaha! Nagbigay din naman ako possible solution ah.. :p

Quote from: wilpredo on January 26, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha  :lol:

Pakulo ka lang ng isang takuring tubig, tapos halo mo sa palangganang maraming baking soda at tubig gripo na rin.. dapat hindi naman sobrang init.. babad mo dun 20 mins tapos banlawan at tuyuin mo. (kaya ko sinabing banlawan dahil napansin ko mejo may pagka mild abrasive pa rin ang baking soda kahit na papano kaya sisiguraduhin mong walang maiiwan sa cymbal). ayun, tuyuin mabuti at subukang linisin ulit..

Naku bro kung ipapalinis mo rin sakin yan wag mo nang patagalin dahil mas matagal nanjan yung itim na yan mas mahirap matanggal. ;)

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wilpredo on January 26, 2010, 05:50:09 PM

Quote from: autoexec on January 26, 2010, 03:58:56 PM

Wahaha! Nagbigay din naman ako possible solution ah.. :p
Pakulo ka lang ng isang takuring tubig, tapos halo mo sa palangganang maraming baking soda at tubig gripo na rin.. dapat hindi naman sobrang init.. babad mo dun 20 mins tapos banlawan at tuyuin mo. (kaya ko sinabing banlawan dahil napansin ko mejo may pagka mild abrasive pa rin ang baking soda kahit na papano kaya sisiguraduhin mong walang maiiwan sa cymbal). ayun, tuyuin mabuti at subukang linisin ulit..

Naku bro kung ipapalinis mo rin sakin yan wag mo nang patagalin dahil mas matagal nanjan yung itim na yan mas mahirap matanggal. ;)

nakakatamad pala gawin yung nilagang cymbals haha cge na nga papalinis ko na lang sayo. next week na lang siguro kasi mejo malayo e haha salamat bro  :-D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: jaeidn on January 27, 2010, 12:02:39 AM

hello makiki sali lng. sa experience ko sa zildjian cleaner mahirap siya tlga gamitin sa trad finsih kesa sa brilliant pero pwde nmn siya sa trad finish. punasn mo lng ng punasn hngang mtnggal or hyaan mong matuyo ung cleaner pra pgpunas mo di siya kakalat lng and make sure na cotton ung cloth mo or franela para kakapit. sobrang daming punas ang kylngan mo para mtnggal mo ung black residue pero pgntnggal mo siya for sure mgnda results. dati ang gingwa ko after ko maalis ung black residue hinuhgsan ko ng dish washing liquid and rub lng ng fingers tapos un na.

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: autoexec on January 27, 2010, 02:14:38 AM

Quote from: wilpredo on January 26, 2010, 05:50:09 PM

nakakatamad pala gawin yung nilagang cymbals haha cge na nga papalinis ko na lang sayo. next week na lang siguro kasi mejo malayo e haha salamat bro  :-D

Hindi naman bro, actually mas nakakatamad gamitin yung zildjian cleaner kesa nilagang cymbal, hehehe. Ok bro, sakto yun next week, busy din kasi ngayong week, defense namin.. hehe. :)

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: gido on January 27, 2010, 04:01:48 AM

sir mabisa ba ang nilagang cymbals? sa zbt ko minsan ginamit ko car polisher.. kumintab naman mjo nag iba ung kulay pwede ba ang car polisher?

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: 16Ian05 on January 27, 2010, 09:13:53 AM

hey guys.. just want to add up. tanong lang.. ok lang ba na ilubog rin ung cymbals sa tubig? or punasan ng basang clean cloth? indi kaya sya kalawangin kapag ganun?

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: straightedgejep on January 27, 2010, 10:39:03 AM

Quote from: wilpredo on January 26, 2010, 01:47:20 PM

@straightedgejep: bro ang problema kasi habang pinupunas ko pa lang yung cleaner nangingitim na so humahalo yung itimk dun sa natitirang cleaner. pag kinakalat ko na yung cleaner kulay itim na. try ko yung wet cloth, baka gumana hehe salamat bro  :-D

@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha  :lol:

oo try mo sir ganyan din yung nangyari sa akin. .yung nangingitim halos lahat ng part ng cymbals ko, tapos naka ubos ako ng mga 7 basahan, haha basta after ng pag gamit ng cleaner linisin mo ng wet cloth, pagkatapos apply ka ulet ng cleaner, tapos wet cloth ulet . . ganun ung ginawa ko sir eh medyo kelangan lang po ng tiyaga almost 30 mins ko nilinis yun eh. . pero nung groove juice ginamit ko wala pa 5 mins, toothbrush lang ayos na :D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: plep on January 27, 2010, 10:47:32 AM

the lesson, as always: don't clean your cymbals. they sound better, look better, smell (!) better when dirty.

kaso kung kailangan mo talaga linisin, bigay mo na lang kay autoexec (can't argue with results). tas ibenta mo na lang yung cymbal polish mo.

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: redvillain on January 27, 2010, 11:18:52 AM

sir nagamit ko din yan sa cymbals namin sa church, and yes it is true na magastos nga sa basahan pagka yan ung ginamit mo na cleaner, pero pagka po ganyan ang nangyari it means hindi pa po tapos ung paglilinis niyo, it means you have to put more cleaner on it and polish it with pressure until that portion shines. nalinis ko naman po ung mga cymbals ko kaso sobrang sakit ng mga braso ko after kasi diniinan ko ung pagkuskos para maais tlga ung dumi. after nun hindi na ako gumamit ng cleaner na yan, bumili na lng ako nung meinl cymbal cleaner na spray, un ang effective tlga, kasi pagka spray mo plng sa cymbal makikita mo ung area na nalagyan ng product eh mas bright na agad kesa sa area na hindi pa nalagyan, kaso mahal nasa 900+... some recommend groove juice na mabibili daw sa audiophil, maybe you can give that a shot.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: straightedgejep on January 27, 2010, 11:24:05 AM

mga sir meron ba kayo marerecommend na after na malinis yung cymbals mo yung parang "protective coating" para hindi siya kaagad dumumi? para tumagal yung pagkalinis niya?

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: nikogulo on January 27, 2010, 03:48:36 PM

kailanga mo lang i-polish ng husto...nakakapagod. ako mga 15-30mins pag gamit ko yung zildjian cleaner kasi kailangan polish lang hanggang mawala yung itim na iniiwan ng polish..

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wilpredo on January 27, 2010, 06:34:07 PM

salamat sa mga reply, pero ginawa ko na lahat ng kaya ko hahahaha  :lol: pag-apply ng cleaner, punas, then pag nangitim, punas ulit, pag kumintab, punas nanaman. pero iba yung kintab nya dun sa natural na shine talaga, pag tiningnan mo sa gilid yung cymbal maitim. makintab sya kapag top view, pero pag side view maitim. last try ko na ulit mamaya, pag ayaw talaga derecho na to kay autoexec haha

salamat ulit! :-D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: Drumer777 on January 27, 2010, 09:14:18 PM

bor!try mo kaya metal polish...he he he..yong malamang tangal ang dumi yan pati kulay..kasi ganon ginagawa ng friend ko sa chruch...ako ginawa ko sa cymbals ko pinunasan ko sya ng oil..kunting oil lang!makikita mo makintab sya..pero yong dumi hindi na alis...kaya ngyon hind ko na nililinis e..pinopunasan ko nalang e...mas ok pa yong ganon e...saka habang tumatagal gumaganda tunog ng cymbals..kasi kong nililinis mo yong cymbals numinipis yan e...e ka nga e nsa maganda yogn tunog pag hindi mo nililinis..punas punas lang...he he he he..yon lang!nag adviced lang ako....GOd BLess Bro! :-D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: wilpredo on January 27, 2010, 09:44:11 PM

Quote from: Drumer777 on January 27, 2010, 09:14:18 PM

bor!try mo kaya metal polish...he he he..yong malamang tangal ang dumi yan pati kulay..kasi ganon ginagawa ng friend ko sa chruch...ako ginawa ko sa cymbals ko pinunasan ko sya ng oil..kunting oil lang!makikita mo makintab sya..pero yong dumi hindi na alis...kaya ngyon hind ko na nililinis e..pinopunasan ko nalang e...mas ok pa yong ganon e...saka habang tumatagal gumaganda tunog ng cymbals..kasi kong nililinis mo yong cymbals numinipis yan e...e ka nga e nsa maganda yogn tunog pag hindi mo nililinis..punas punas lang...he he he he..yon lang!nag adviced lang ako....GOd BLess Bro! :-D

bro ayoko gumamit ng metal polish, nakakasira ng cymbal yun ganun ang ginagamit ko panlinis dati sa planet z ko, nasira yung kulay and numipis yung cymbal hehe  :-D

Title: Re: HELP Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish
Post by: Gep on January 28, 2010, 12:37:15 AM

I tried cleaning my cymbals with that product before.
Talagang may black residue, tulad ng residue sa ROTC brass belts - you need to wipe it off again with a clean cloth.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: feelkg21 on February 11, 2010, 07:37:52 PM

sirs, may chance pa ba linising yung mga super dumi na cymbals? yung nagmumukang color red na tas walang shine at all  :? :? zildjian 14" ZBT hats yung akin e, got it here sa philm. was wondering kung pwede pa malinis to?  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: uy12umainer on February 11, 2010, 08:13:00 PM

Quote from: feelkg21 on February 11, 2010, 07:37:52 PM

sirs, may chance pa ba linising yung mga super dumi na cymbals? yung nagmumukang color red na tas walang shine at all  :? :? zildjian 14" ZBT hats yung akin e, got it here sa philm. was wondering kung pwede pa malinis to?  :-D

malilinis siya pero di kasing linis nung date meron din akong zbt hats nag shine siya pero hindi na siya pumuti kagaya nung brandnew sila

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: feelkg21 on February 11, 2010, 09:25:27 PM

Quote from: uy12umainer on February 11, 2010, 08:13:00 PM

malilinis siya pero di kasing linis nung date meron din akong zbt hats nag shine siya pero hindi na siya pumuti kagaya nung brandnew sila

eto kasi walang kashine shine what so ever, i was wondering kung pwde bang marestore kahit papano, at least yung nag gglisten pag natapatan ng light? :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: paeng16 on February 12, 2010, 10:15:11 AM

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 24, 2009, 01:30:19 PM

the "driller" experience here we go

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0019.jpg)

bili pa kong polish mmaya so mamaya ko pa masusubukan talaga to hehehe

This is not cymbal care and "MAINTENANCE" if you ask me!! hehehe... this is like HOW TO REMOVE THE LOGOS as quick as possible!!  :-D


(You are also risking the cymbal to crack at the middle..)   

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dolfmen on February 12, 2010, 05:23:13 PM

Quote from: paeng16 on February 12, 2010, 10:15:11 AM

This is not cymbal care and "MAINTENANCE" if you ask me!! hehehe... this is like HOW TO REMOVE THE LOGOS as quick as possible!!  :-D


(You are also risking the cymbal to crack at the middle..)   

+1 parang nakakatakot nga! heheh

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: uy12umainer on February 12, 2010, 08:26:50 PM

Quote from: feelkg21 on February 11, 2010, 09:25:27 PM

eto kasi walang kashine shine what so ever, i was wondering kung pwde bang marestore kahit papano, at least yung nag gglisten pag natapatan ng light? :D

pwede pero syempre hindi mo lang isang beses lilinisin para kuminang hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on February 25, 2010, 04:36:02 PM

Guys Share ko lang ang simpleng trick na natuklasan ko,

sabon lang tanggal ang matinding stains sa cymbals

i think hindi ito nakakanipis dahil po germ fighting soap lang naman sya (please correct me if i were mistaken)

dutch po ang tatak

Note: this process is the moderate to hard way , BUT worth it ang pagod

Here po ang pics ng BEFORE and AFTER ng cymbal

SUBOK na po for ZBT's, PAiSTe Bronze

Reminder: Ingat po na madaanan yung logo, nakakalabo po ng logo or Worst nakakaalis

Please post kung effective sa ibang cymbal

Now Here it is!


CLEANSER:
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq24/ming_sep/DSC00100.jpg)

Cymbal na madumi:
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq24/ming_sep/DSC00107.jpg)

After Cleaning:
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq24/ming_sep/DSC00108.jpg)
(http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq24/ming_sep/DSC00112.jpg)


AGAIN this is the hard way , (nakakangawit) pero ok talaga and safe

#1
basain ng tubig gripo ang cymbal

#2
alisin ang tubig hanggang ang matira nalang ay ang mga "patak patak" na tubig

#3
ibudbod ang powder sa maduming part ng cymbal

#4
gamit ang "daliri" i-scrub ang tuyong powder papunta sa moisten na cymbal

NOTE: kailangan ay kumukuskos mismo ng madiin ang powder hindi ang daliri

#5
kuskos lang at makikita agad ang diperensya, Ipagpatuloy hanggang mawala ang lahat ng stains

#6
banlawan mabuti ng malinis na tubig

#7
Patuyuin

#8
give it a buff of clear wax for Protection (recommended)

#9
mag post sa Philmusic ng result hehehe

#10
CHEERS  :-D  :wink:  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ChocoMani on February 25, 2010, 07:18:58 PM

mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on February 25, 2010, 10:10:40 PM

Quote from: ChocoMani on February 25, 2010, 07:18:58 PM

mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?

nasubukan mo na po yung post ko?? read mo lang po mabuti and make sure na yun mismo ang gagamitin mu

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on February 26, 2010, 12:04:35 AM

Quote from: ChocoMani on February 25, 2010, 07:18:58 PM

mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?

baka naman yung stain na sinasabi mo eh yung patina na tinatawag,
mahirap talaga burahin yun

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on February 26, 2010, 12:13:07 AM

Quote from: cheezemonster08 on February 26, 2010, 12:04:35 AM

Quote from: ChocoMani on Yesterday at 07:18:58 PM
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Posted by: cheezemonster08
baka naman yung stain na sinasabi mo eh yung patina na tinatawag,
mahirap talaga burahin yun

oo nga po baka sobrang lalim na ng stain/patina at hindi na mahabol  :|

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ChocoMani on February 27, 2010, 08:14:02 AM

hindi sir.2 months palang sakin ung xs20's ko sir.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on February 27, 2010, 09:22:41 AM

Quote from: ChocoMani on February 27, 2010, 08:14:02 AM

hindi sir.2 months palang sakin ung xs20's ko sir.

panu mu po nasabing numipis??

kasi po ang finish ko sa akin ay naalis lang yung stain, di nawala yung brilliant finish, so i think hindi sya nakakanipis

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ChocoMani on February 27, 2010, 01:59:35 PM

ok sirs.tnx a lot.i'll try.i will post before and after pics

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on February 28, 2010, 12:25:45 AM

Quote from: ChocoMani on February 27, 2010, 01:59:35 PM

ok sirs.tnx a lot.i'll try.i will post before and after pics

ok sir hehe post ka din po dun sa "Cymbals a discovery" ah hehe para po mai update hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kasmoteer on March 02, 2010, 03:44:09 PM

Before
(http://i47.tinypic.com/28qvrxx.jpg)
After
(http://i45.tinypic.com/258qjwp.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2uqdvrn.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2exlr4k.jpg)

gusto yo malaman ang sikreto sa pagpapakintab ng cymbals? :)
heto ang sikreto

safeguard + ariel + mrclean, + basahang mejo basa

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on March 02, 2010, 11:45:10 PM

dumadame formula ahh haha,
safe ba yan? jejeej

ayan ahh, pili nalang kayo sa mga naka post, pero mas saludo padin talaga ako sa nilagang cymbals haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: karl1031 on March 29, 2010, 08:25:33 PM

sir pag tapos ng "nilagang cymbal" pwede ko po bang applyan ng cymbal cleaner?? D'andrea cymbal cleaner..

may kinang pa naman cymbals ko ..pwede p magsalamin kaso daming stains e..tsaka stickmarks..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: mambo on May 03, 2010, 01:24:11 AM

pano ba alisin yung mga finger prints/marks? alam ko nabangit yun dito kaso di ko mahanap na...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on May 03, 2010, 10:30:03 AM

Quote from: mambo on May 03, 2010, 01:24:11 AM

pano ba alisin yung mga finger prints/marks? alam ko nabangit yun dito kaso di ko mahanap na...

anung class po ng cymbal?
this might help sir ^_^
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,175393.msg2387552.html#msg2387552

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: mambo on May 03, 2010, 02:09:55 PM

kaya ayaw ko ng brilliant eh, nakaka OC sila.hehe

@vhinming: naalis ba yung finger marks/prints?

Quote from: kasmoteer on March 02, 2010, 03:44:09 PM

Before
(http://i47.tinypic.com/28qvrxx.jpg)
After
(http://i45.tinypic.com/258qjwp.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2uqdvrn.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2exlr4k.jpg)

gusto yo malaman ang sikreto sa pagpapakintab ng cymbals? :)
heto ang sikreto

safeguard + ariel + mrclean, + basahang mejo basa

might try this one....kaso bakit andami naman ingredient? heck ganda naman ng result! :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: jmdesign on May 17, 2010, 09:45:23 PM

How do you remove oxidation ( ito yung greenish or dark brown) in cymbals?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pedros_canabis on July 02, 2010, 07:59:35 AM

Oo nga po, panu nga matanggal yun green stain/tarnish sa cymbal?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: chrism_rivera on July 02, 2010, 09:56:29 AM

Quote from: kasmoteer on March 02, 2010, 03:44:09 PM

Before
(http://i47.tinypic.com/28qvrxx.jpg)
After
(http://i45.tinypic.com/258qjwp.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2uqdvrn.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2exlr4k.jpg)

gusto yo malaman ang sikreto sa pagpapakintab ng cymbals? :)
heto ang sikreto

safeguard + ariel + mrclean, + basahang mejo basa

Pano proseso nito sir? Gano karami bawat ingredient?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on July 03, 2010, 04:59:12 PM

obeservation ko lang po ahh..
parang impossible kasing maging stain yung sa last pics..
parang dirt yung inalis hindi stain  :wink:
i think natapunan lang ng sticky liquid" juice? or something and dries out  :-D

BTW IMO

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kispirin21 on July 08, 2010, 11:27:42 AM

I would still go for Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner and paper towels.. Effective kasi siya for my babies.

Mejo magastos nga lang and time consuming, but its worth the effort!  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pauldavid_7 on July 15, 2010, 07:19:16 AM

pano po malinisan ang stain sa cymbals? uhmm istanbul cymbals kasi mga gamit ko :)
Uhmm.. effective kaya zildjian?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: gido on July 16, 2010, 02:51:38 AM

big problem ko din ung mga finger prints, most of my cymbals binili ko ng 2nd hand, ung iba hirap ng matangal ng mga finger prints, anu kaya pede kong gawin?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dolfmen on July 16, 2010, 06:02:10 PM

gumagana ba yan gusto ko yung di natatangal yung logo e, ano ba yng safest dito? hahaha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: killikillers on October 29, 2010, 12:33:26 AM

pano pag nawala na ung logo ng cymbal ko? ano kaya pinaka magandang way para i-restore ung logo's?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on October 29, 2010, 01:09:59 AM

Quote from: killikillers on October 29, 2010, 12:33:26 AM

pano pag nawala na ung logo ng cymbal ko? ano kaya pinaka magandang way para i-restore ung logo's?

*edit
sa perfect pitch po may nakita si sir riff, kaso matagal na daw po yun and for Sabian lang??

read more (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,198850.msg2753460.html#msg2753460)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Nintendork022 on October 30, 2010, 11:29:13 PM

Ang alam ko pag gumamit ka ng groove juice, mabubura yung cymbal brand logo, Am I right? :mrgreen:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: cheezemonster08 on November 12, 2010, 02:06:26 PM

may nakita akong cleaning paste sa bahay.
ngayon ko lang napansin to so i gave it a try.

ginamit ko sya sa zil-bel na saksakan talaga ng dumi,as-in pwede taniman ng kamote
tapos to my amazement with a little help with the scrub,kumintab ng konte yung bell
nawala yung dirt,and some stain.
but to no avail isang wipe lang sa logo burado agad :-(

it has glycerin in it,can it harm other cymbals?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: marko21 on November 12, 2010, 11:38:23 PM

mga sir pano nyo inoorganize mga cymbals nyo sa cymbal bag? may nabibili ba para maipantay ko yung mga bell ng cymbals pag nasa loob ng bag?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on November 13, 2010, 03:07:23 PM

Quote from: marko21 on November 12, 2010, 11:38:23 PM

mga sir pano nyo inoorganize mga cymbals nyo sa cymbal bag? may nabibili ba para maipantay ko yung mga bell ng cymbals pag nasa loob ng bag?

if you are thinking to stack them into their bells or their holes in one rod,..

IMO delikado, kasi nasa biggest diameter ng cymbal yung weight ng remaining cymbals

pwera nalang kung hardcase, nakafixed na yung holder sa center ng bag

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on November 13, 2010, 04:30:14 PM

Quote from: marko21 on November 12, 2010, 11:38:23 PM

mga sir pano nyo inoorganize mga cymbals nyo sa cymbal bag? may nabibili ba para maipantay ko yung mga bell ng cymbals pag nasa loob ng bag?

just put cushions in-between. ako may isang layer ng bubble wrap at foam sa gitna ng bawat cymbal. tapos yung hi-hats nasa ibang bulsa nung bag, may foam din sila sa gitna.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: marko21 on November 13, 2010, 11:41:30 PM

ah sige sir salamat makapaginvest nga sa magandang bag  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on November 14, 2010, 01:00:37 AM

Quote from: marko21 on November 13, 2010, 11:41:30 PM

ah sige sir salamat makapaginvest nga sa magandang bag  :-D

tama sir! all cymbals deserves nice shelter  8-)
try nyu po mag hardcase,.. mejo may kamahalan pero sulit!

or next to that is MONO cymbal case,.. i dont have one but I really want one
the only reason is hindi ko inilalabas mga pies ko, kea kinda mai-istock lang din  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: jaredjared on January 13, 2011, 03:16:42 PM

ok b ung vater na cymbal cleaner? out of stock na kasi zildjian pati groovejuice. salamat

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: karl713 on January 24, 2011, 08:56:09 PM

Mga Sir anu po ang dapat gawin para hindi mabura ng cymbals cleaner ung logo ng cymbals?
saka panu po ba iiwasan na madumihan ung cymbals?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on January 24, 2011, 09:35:07 PM

Quote from: karl713 on January 24, 2011, 08:56:09 PM

Mga Sir anu po ang dapat gawin para hindi mabura ng cymbals cleaner ung logo ng cymbals?

before cleaning, get some duct tape and cover it by following the logos shape
after cleaning, use WD40 to remove excess sticky substance created by the tape

Quote from: karl713 on January 24, 2011, 08:56:09 PM

saka panu po ba iiwasan na madumihan ung cymbals?

always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: thunder_god on January 24, 2011, 10:13:36 PM

Quote from: vhinming on January 24, 2011, 09:35:07 PM

always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands

What I usually do for added protection, is after cleaning/polishing it using a cymbal cleaner, I put car wax. I put on a thin coat then polish it to perfection.  :-D
It keeps the cymbal proctected from dirt, stains, or those grimmy/sweaty hands after use.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on January 24, 2011, 11:03:35 PM

Quote from: thunder_god on January 24, 2011, 10:13:36 PM

[/b][/size]always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands



What I usually do for added protection, is after cleaning/polishing it using a cymbal cleaner, I put car wax. I put on a thin coat then polish it to perfection.  :-D
It keeps the cymbal proctected from dirt, stains, or those grimmy/sweaty hands after use.

yah my friend had told me that before,.. but i have no idea on how much,where to buy that car wax  :oops:

IMO its more ideal for B8 alloy such as ZBT's Sabian B8's Etc...

because after thorough cleaning,.. same stains slowly appears again or i should say its very easy to gain stain than B20 alloys,..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: karl713 on January 25, 2011, 07:07:45 PM

So sir vhinming lagyan ko muna ng duct tape bago ko lagyan ng cymbals cleaner?
tapos kailangan ko ba lagyan ng carwax pag katapos ko linisin??

maraming salamat po sainyo. :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on January 26, 2011, 12:14:20 AM

Quote from: karl713 on January 25, 2011, 07:07:45 PM

So sir vhinming lagyan ko muna ng duct tape bago ko lagyan ng cymbals cleaner?
tapos kailangan ko ba lagyan ng carwax pag katapos ko linisin??

maraming salamat po sainyo. :-D

yep! any tape bastat hindi maaalis when cleaning and not leaving heavy sticky mucus XD

recommended nila ang car wax,ok din daw,..

sa akin i never tried pa ehh, pero thumbs up ako dun  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: karl713 on January 26, 2011, 09:06:17 PM

Quote from: vhinming on January 26, 2011, 12:14:20 AM

yep! any tape bastat hindi maaalis when cleaning and not leaving heavy sticky mucus XD

recommended nila ang car wax,ok din daw,..

sa akin i never tried pa ehh, pero thumbs up ako dun  :-)

ok po sir.salamat po sa advice.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: schizomasochizt on February 03, 2011, 10:48:28 AM

I tried using Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner. Guess what.. It really works.. parang bago ulit ung cymbals ko.. hehe.. thanks a lot guys. Thanks Philmusic

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: food.vulture on February 11, 2011, 02:42:25 AM

just want to ask.. does cleaning with wax, or cymbal cleaners make the cymbal thinner/manipis because of the chemicals, etc?? it makes it clean, like brand new but on the other hand does it makes the cymbal brittle?  :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: JDMonline on February 11, 2011, 02:32:38 PM

Quote from: cheezemonster08 on November 12, 2010, 02:06:26 PM

may nakita akong cleaning paste sa bahay.
ngayon ko lang napansin to so i gave it a try.

ginamit ko sya sa zil-bel na saksakan talaga ng dumi,as-in pwede taniman ng kamote
tapos to my amazement with a little help with the scrub,kumintab ng konte yung bell
nawala yung dirt,and some stain.
but to no avail isang wipe lang sa logo burado agad :-(

it has glycerin in it,can it harm other cymbals?

WARNING!!
wag mna ult gmitin yan bro sa cymbals mo..Moisture lng mkkha m jan..
At isa pa Glycerin are used as CATALYST on metals..
Catalyst w/ Glycerin are Superior than NaOH( Caustic Soda are example )..Depende sa concentration
Kaya nyan alisin grooves sa cymbals mo or either tunawin ang cymbal kpg marami nalagay
Kea icipin mo ung Logo alis agad..Ganu ktapang yan..Unlike Cymbal Cleaners

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dreddurius on February 17, 2011, 01:06:34 PM

IMHO bago maglinis ng cymbals eh i-weigh muna kung ang habol mo ay aesthetics or functionality.

Risky business to. Maalis na ang logo wag lang ang protective coat ng cymbals. Pag walang coating, patina ang magiging kalaban mo (yung green shiz na nagbi-build up na parang Hulk baga).

If you really gotta clean it non-acid based cleaners will do. If you want darker sounds, don't bother cleaning it. Punas-punas na lang using ung 3M na microfiber or kahit na anong panlinis ng eyeglasses.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: omnicloud7 on February 24, 2011, 09:33:50 PM

Tanong lang mga sirs, majority kasi ng time, yung cymbals ko nasa cymbal bag, tapos nakatayo yung cymbal bag dito sa house. Ano po ba mas ok? Nakatayo or nakahiga? Pag nakahiga kasi, malakas yung stress nung cymbal na nasa pinakailalim. Pag nakatayo naman, naisip ko baka nastrestress yung one side ng bawat cymbal kasi yun yung nagpapatayo sa kanila. Ano po sa tingin niyo? Thanks!

In order, ito arrangement ng cymbals ko sa bag:

14" HiHats
-
18" Crash
-
21" Ride

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: pmack on February 24, 2011, 10:34:57 PM

nakahiga para flat. pag nakatayo may tendency na mawala yung pagka-level ng cymbal. pag nialapat mo yung cymbal sa straight surface tapos yung isang side medyo naka-angat, hindi na siya level. hindi na siya "true".

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dreddurius on February 25, 2011, 10:55:23 AM

May nabasa ako sa isang drumming forum na hindi raw importante kung nakahiga or nakatayo since kung kaya ng cymbals ang stress ng playing, no-bearing daw kung naka store lang. Pero since malaking investment ang mga cymbals mas ok kung evenly distributed ang bigat, so nakahiga ang best bet ko (like what pmack said).

And yep, pareho tayo ng cymbal stacking, pinakamabigat sa baba. But in my case hindi naka store ang hats ko since yung combined weight nya eh parang delikado sa ride cymbal hehe. Ok sana kung kasing presyo ng kendi ang mga to okey lang na mayupi (better safe than sorry) ^^,

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on February 26, 2011, 01:47:19 AM

for me it depends sa bow ng cymbal  :-D

if malalim naman ang bow ng cymbal
pwede tayo mag stack from splash to ride

example

22" Ride
19" Crash
17"Crash
13" Hats
12" splash
10" splash

i believe na magkaka gap padin sila kahit gabuhok lang
depends padin talaga sa model ng cymbal
experiment nalang po

kapag nag stack from ride down to splash and hindi umangat yung ride, for me its a go  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: dreddurius on March 01, 2011, 01:02:08 PM

Quote from: vhinming on February 26, 2011, 01:47:19 AM

for me it depends sa bow ng cymbal  :-D

if malalim naman ang bow ng cymbal
pwede tayo mag stack from splash to ride

example

22" Ride
19" Crash
17"Crash
13" Hats
12" splash
10" splash

i believe na magkaka gap padin sila kahit gabuhok lang
depends padin talaga sa model ng cymbal
experiment nalang po

kapag nag stack from ride down to splash and hindi umangat yung ride, for me its a go  :-)

+1,000,000 carabaos for this.. Mahahalikan kita sa weyfu Vhinming haha. This worked for me. My ride actually hugged my crash and hats nicely (salamat sa malalim na bow nya). Thinking out of the box (in this case, cymbal case) = WIN.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: tyrande101 on March 03, 2011, 08:15:32 AM

mga poging philmusicians!
I'm planning to have a general cleaning for my cymbals (K custom dark Ride, Stag DH crash, Avedis crash, avedis hats)
These are the steps that I'm going to do, correct me kapag may nakita kayong mali sa gagawin ko.

Step 1:

     a.) Prepare for hot water (hindi kumukulo).
     b.) Prepare for bandera, ung pang labahan.
     c.) Prepare for baking soda
     d.) Prepare several dry cloths,
     e.) Prepare WD-40 and car wax (turtle wax)
     f. ) Tissue

Step 2: Lagyan ng tissue ang logo and patungan pa ng duck tape, bale sandwich sya, ang nadidikitan lang na part ng duck tape yung outside area ng logo.

Step 3: lagyan ng hot water ang bandera, lagyan na rin ng baking soda

Step 4: Ilapat ang cymbal sa hot water with baking soda for 5 mins, yung mga hindi matanggal na substance, punas punasan mo ng cloth while nakababad.

Step 5: Then pagka-ahon ni cymbal, Tanggalin ang tape sa may logo, (if sticky substance occurs, Apply WD-40)

Step 6: Punasan ng dry cloth ang buong cymbal

Step 7: apply car wax.

Will it result to a shiny almost brand new looking cymbal?  :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on March 04, 2011, 06:49:56 PM

baka matanggal yung logo pagtanggal ng duct tape or worse paglagay mo ng WD40 mabura na for good. try sandwiching tissues in between the logo and sa duct tape, yung part na lang na nakadikit is yung outside ng logo area/part. :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: plitipiw40315 on March 04, 2011, 07:14:52 PM

meron na po bang nakatry sainyo na gumamit ng groove juice??pa-review naman po..thanks!!  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: tyrande101 on March 04, 2011, 07:32:41 PM

Quote from: Riff_6603 on March 04, 2011, 06:49:56 PM

baka matanggal yung logo pagtanggal ng duct tape or worse paglagay mo ng WD40 mabura na for good. try sandwiching tissues in between the logo and sa duct tape, yung part na lang na nakadikit is yung outside ng logo area/part. :-)

Post modified na sir Riff, maraming salamat po! any feedback for my Cymbal general cleaning method? anyone? I need furthermore assessment before I commence general cleaning.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: straightwire on March 08, 2011, 10:16:42 PM

i use battery electrolyte(tubig ng baterya) apply using paint brush wait few minutes then hugasan ng  tubig medyo makati lang pag nag contact sa skin then final polishing using metal polish.

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: tyrande101 on March 11, 2011, 01:12:33 AM

Mga poging philmusicians..

ok lang ba ang pagbu-buffing sa cymbals? kikintab kaya yun?

and another question is, may nabibili kayang logo sticker ng zildjian? and yung model yunit? kasi burado na ang K custom ride ko and baka may paraan pa para maibalik pa yun.. ganun na ganun yung sukat tska stile.. huhuhu T_T

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: killikillers on March 15, 2011, 03:55:53 PM

Quote from: tyrande101 on March 11, 2011, 01:12:33 AM

Mga poging philmusicians..

ok lang ba ang pagbu-buffing sa cymbals? kikintab kaya yun?

and another question is, may nabibili kayang logo sticker ng zildjian? and yung model yunit? kasi burado na ang K custom ride ko and baka may paraan pa para maibalik pa yun.. ganun na ganun yung sukat tska stile.. huhuhu T_T

oo kikintab yun, kaso lang magiging bright yung tunog ng cymbals mo
wag ka lang gagamit ng materials may chemical na makaka dry ng cymbals

afaik, walang nabibiling logo sticker ng zildjian PERO pwede ka mag DIY logo restoration

check mo itong thread na to, malaking tulong ito para sa mga gustong irestore/pagandahin/linisin yung mga cymbals nila  :wink:

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,10612.0.html

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: tom_morelo2001 on March 31, 2011, 10:49:51 PM

ung cymbals ko po top hihat nagkaron nun parang green na mantsa,pano ko po k un mttgal tnx po.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on April 02, 2011, 10:29:31 PM

Quote from: tom_morelo2001 on March 31, 2011, 10:49:51 PM

ung cymbals ko po top hihat nagkaron nun parang green na mantsa,pano ko po k un mttgal tnx po.

patina yun due to oxidation. try mo gumamit ng cymbal cleaners, specifically groove juice. tiyagaang punas lang tanggal yan. iwasan mo na lang malagyan ng pawis yung pies mo para iwas tarnishing ulit. :wink:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: tyrande101 on April 02, 2011, 10:39:44 PM

Quote from: Riff_6603 on April 02, 2011, 10:29:31 PM

patina yun due to oxidation. try mo gumamit ng cymbal cleaners, specifically groove juice. tiyagaang punas lang tanggal yan. iwasan mo na lang malagyan ng pawis yung pies mo para iwas tarnishing ulit. :wink:

In addition, palaging punasan ang mga cymbals after use, para mapunasan ung mga manti mantika from your fingers due to cymbal choking or pag hawak ng cymbals. And try to put several silica gels sa cymbal bag mo, para ma absorb ung mga moist na nag ca-cause ng oxidation sa cymbals.

Prevention is better than Cure

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: tyrande101 on May 23, 2011, 12:25:32 AM

well I maybe in a wrong thread (you may delete this or transfer to a right thread) but I think it can be one of a general question for me. Is this WipeOut cleaner not bad for cymbals? I mean, hindi ba siya nakaka nipis like other metal polisher? Kasi mejo nagiging routine ko na kasi sya na every time na gagamitin ko ang mga cymbals, afterwards pupunasan ko sila ng towel with wipeout..

(http://www.acehardware.ph/Acehardware/uploads/products/48908601_wipeout.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: music_en_sound on June 03, 2011, 04:53:19 PM

remedy for faded logos?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: tyrande101 on June 15, 2011, 10:14:58 AM

Quote from: music_en_sound on June 03, 2011, 04:53:19 PM

remedy for faded logos?

sticker! pero I doubt kung may gumagawa non. Matagal ko na ring question yan eh..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: mambo on June 16, 2011, 07:45:47 PM

Quote from: music_en_sound on June 03, 2011, 04:53:19 PM

remedy for faded logos?

I think a fellow forum member, Vhinming, shared how he restored the logo of his cymbals. Not quite sure pero sya nga ata yun.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: byako21 on June 17, 2011, 12:00:53 PM

i have tried putting a single coat of clear nail polish sa logo, it did not affect the sound at all.. pero take note single coat lang kasi yung ibang nail polish matapang ang content, pag inulitan mo ng coat sumasama na ang paint ng logo. its effective din sa brand ng mga stick... nde talaga sya nwawala kahit madumi na ang handle. hope this help

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on June 17, 2011, 06:51:50 PM

Quote from: mambo on June 16, 2011, 07:45:47 PM

I think a fellow forum member, Vhinming, shared how he restored the logo of his cymbals. Not quite sure pero sya nga ata yun.

@mambo - yup! siya yun bro! :wink:

DIY: Cymbal Logo Restoration
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?topic=198850.0

@music_en_sound - this might help out as well

Cymbal Logo Refreshener/Restoration thread
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,26652.0.html

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: music_en_sound on June 20, 2011, 02:17:45 AM

maraming salamat

* tyrande
* mambo
* byako
* Riff

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: mr. trigger on June 20, 2011, 10:54:53 AM

Quote from: tyrande101 on May 23, 2011, 12:25:32 AM

well I maybe in a wrong thread (you may delete this or transfer to a right thread) but I think it can be one of a general question for me. Is this WipeOut cleaner not bad for cymbals? I mean, hindi ba siya nakaka nipis like other metal polisher? Kasi mejo nagiging routine ko na kasi sya na every time na gagamitin ko ang mga cymbals, afterwards pupunasan ko sila ng towel with wipeout..

(http://www.acehardware.ph/Acehardware/uploads/products/48908601_wipeout.jpg)

pareho tayo ng gamit bro. waterbase ang wipeout kaya sa tingin ko ok naman sya sa cymbals..matagal ko ng gamit yan :-D

Title: Re: DIY: CYMBALS : UPGRADED Formula!! A Discovery Of Removing Stains
Post by: incubus_boy08 on June 28, 2011, 08:14:21 PM

ano po bang wax ang pwede gamitin sa mga cymbals natin? Cast bronze po yung akin eh

Title: Re: Re: DIY: CYMBALS : UPGRADED Formula!! A Discovery Of Removing Stains
Post by: bulok on June 28, 2011, 10:24:59 PM

^oo nga, turtle wax pwede ba? yung mga wax na pang-polish sa sasakyan?

Title: Re: Re: DIY: CYMBALS : UPGRADED Formula!! A Discovery Of Removing Stains
Post by: tyrande101 on June 29, 2011, 11:54:14 AM

tska hindi ba nakakanipis ng cymbal ang pag buff?

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jaeidn on June 29, 2011, 12:51:03 PM

hello everyone, i wanna ask some advice. i used sabian cymbal cleaner on my zildjian cymbals. at first it looked good and perfect but after a few hours it turned orange/darker. i did everything the right way that's why i'm wondering why it oxydized so fast even though i wiped off all the cleaner.

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: DrumWorksIII on June 29, 2011, 04:01:46 PM

Quote from: jaeidn on June 29, 2011, 12:51:03 PM

hello everyone, i wanna ask some advice. i used sabian cymbal cleaner on my zildjian cymbals. at first it looked good and perfect but after a few hours it turned orange/darker. i did everything the right way that's why i'm wondering why it oxydized so fast even though i wiped off all the cleaner.

sabian cleaner works best for only sabian cymbals. kaya if your cymbals are zildjian use zildjian cymbal cleaner. may appropriate cleaner for every cymbals. I think it is design that way

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: pejadanza on June 29, 2011, 04:24:13 PM

read ka ng thread dito under cymbal care and maintenance. pede kaya yan e buffing machine noh?

Title: Re: Re: DIY: CYMBALS : UPGRADED Formula!! A Discovery Of Removing Stains
Post by: zachki on June 29, 2011, 05:26:01 PM

meron pang buff sa church ng mga cymbals after few months naging weird ung sound nila... more metal/steel like ung tunog nila.. imo

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jaeidn on June 29, 2011, 07:13:33 PM

Quote from: DrumWorksIII on June 29, 2011, 04:01:46 PM

sabian cleaner works best for only sabian cymbals. kaya if your cymbals are zildjian use zildjian cymbal cleaner. may appropriate cleaner for every cymbals. I think it is design that way

i don't think so.:) kasi same lng nmn ng bronze alloy un and sabian is zildjian din nmn.:) actually gnyan din naging result ng zildjian cymbal polish sa akin lalo na sa trad finished cymbals kasi nga ang hirap alisin lahat nung cleaner pero in this case madali siya alisin pero un nga same results din.

Quote from: pejadanza on June 29, 2011, 04:24:13 PM

read ka ng thread dito under cymbal care and maintenance. pede kaya yan e buffing machine noh?

buffing machine? wla ako nun.:) actually sumakit na nga ung ktwan ko kakapunas and tlgang naalis ko lahat ng cleaner. i didn't use 2 cloth but i used 3 instead.:) i'm wondering kung pwde after ko siya malinis the way i did e wrinse ko siya with water prang groove juice kasi kaamoy siya ng groove juice lighter lng ung amoy niya.:)
gawin ko n lng un next week.:)
thanks...:)

pls avoid text speak - mod

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: DrumWorksIII on June 29, 2011, 09:14:24 PM

Quote from: jaeidn on June 29, 2011, 07:13:33 PM

buffing machine? wla ako nun.:) actually sumakit na nga ung ktwan ko kakapunas and tlgang naalis ko lahat ng cleaner. i didn't use 2 cloth but i used 3 instead.:) i'm wondering kung pwde after ko siya malinis the way i did e wrinse ko siya with water prang groove juice kasi kaamoy siya ng groove juice lighter lng ung amoy niya.:)
gawin ko n lng un next week.:)
thanks...:)

bro mas better if you use a zildjian cleaner on your zildjian cymbals

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jaeidn on June 29, 2011, 09:38:44 PM

Quote from: DrumWorksIII on June 29, 2011, 09:14:24 PM

bro mas better if you use a zildjian cleaner on your zildjian cymbals

ang hirap kasi gamitin nung zildjian polish kaya ayw ko nun eh.:) majority kasi ng cymbals ko traditional finish kaya ang hirap linisin using the zild polish.
i'll try to wrinse it n lng with water after applying and after mapunasan to see kung gagana nga.:)
salamat po....:)

pls avoid text speak - mod

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: plep on June 30, 2011, 10:18:21 PM

1. pareho lang ang bakal na gamit sa zildjian at sabian, kaya walang kaso kung anong cleaner gamitin mo. paiste lang ang brand na kailangang cleaner talaga nila ang gamit. maliban kasi sa iba ang alloy nila, may coating pa cymbals nila.

2. teka... di ba para sa appearance lang rin naman kaya nililinis ang cymbals? kaso sacrifice the color kasi magiging kulay orange? eh di bakit pa lilinisin kung papanget din pala ang itsura?

Title: Re: Re: DIY: CYMBALS : UPGRADED Formula!! A Discovery Of Removing Stains
Post by: tyrande101 on July 02, 2011, 12:41:01 AM

Quote from: zachki on June 29, 2011, 05:26:01 PM

meron pang buff sa church ng mga cymbals after few months naging weird ung sound nila... more metal/steel like ung tunog nila.. imo

so talaga nga sigurong nakaka nipis ang pag buff?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lizsa12 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:59 PM

Does the "soaking with baking soda" cleaning method works on cast bronze cymbals too?  :?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: mr. trigger on July 26, 2011, 01:15:01 PM

Quote from: lizsa12 on July 26, 2011, 12:58:59 PM

Does the "soaking with baking soda" cleaning method works on cast bronze cymbals too?  :?

epektibo sister! :wink: ingat lang sa logo ah

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lizsa12 on July 26, 2011, 01:58:14 PM

Quote from: mr. trigger on July 26, 2011, 01:15:01 PM

epektibo sister! :wink: ingat lang sa logo ah

Oh! Thanks mr. trigger! Ittry ko 'to.  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ianhisoka47 on July 26, 2011, 03:03:21 PM

Ano po ang cheapest DIY na panglinis sa Cymbals na sobrang tagal nang hindi nalinisan? Kase yung cymbals  namin walang panglinis yung mga libags sobrang nanikit na.

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: zero44 on August 10, 2011, 10:48:27 PM

pano ba linisin yung cymbals?

nangingitim na kasi yung akin.. haha hindi ko alam kung papano lilinisin e.. :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: vhinming on August 13, 2011, 12:35:33 AM

Quote from: Riff_6603 on June 17, 2011, 06:51:50 PM

@mambo - yup! siya yun bro! :wink:

DIY: Cymbal Logo Restoration
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?topic=198850.0

@music_en_sound - this might help out as well

Cymbal Logo Refreshener/Restoration thread
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,26652.0.html

i'm very glad sir riff and mambo did remember me  :lol:

BTW @ topic: dust will keep us alive "darkness" hehe

Title: Re: Lets see those kits!
Post by: dimple_guy0619 on November 17, 2011, 04:34:08 PM

Mga sir, Ano bang magandang panlinis ng cymbal para kumintab? many thanks

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: giyang_sam on November 19, 2011, 10:44:33 AM

groove juice Sir,  :-D

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: jobo_ph on November 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM

Quote from: DrumWorksIII on July 01, 2011, 05:57:47 PM

that is base on my experience. I used a sabian cleaner on my a custom and parang nagoorange sya. .you should try and find out.

Chipping in my experience...

I also use Sabian Cymbal Cleaner (Sabian cast B20 cymbals).

Nag-o-orange nga, if you follow the bottle directions strictly (which is what I did the first time).

To avoid that, here's what I do now...

After spraying, Sabian cymbal cleaner and leaving it on for up to a minute or so, I thoroughly rinse with running water.

I dab (not wipe) with a towel to dry.

Afterwards, I spray WD40 and let it soak for a few seconds, then I wipe excess off.

Hope this helps.

Title: Re: PINOYDRUMS UNIFIED HELP THREAD (POST ALL GENERAL DRUM-RELATED QUESTIONS HERE!)
Post by: mokie on November 21, 2011, 08:11:50 AM

meron na po ba sa inyong nakapagtry na nung MARTNEY INSTRUMENT POLISHER? safe po ba talaga yun sa cymbals?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drummaniac on November 21, 2011, 04:01:29 PM

hi fellow drumista! just want to ask if it is wise to store a cymbals and not use it for a long time or ibenta ko na lang? thanks!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: mokie on November 21, 2011, 04:11:06 PM

meron na po ba sa inyong nakapagtry na nung MARTNEY INSTRUMENT POLISHER? safe po ba talaga yun sa cymbals?

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: 9_spiral on December 21, 2011, 08:53:10 PM

Quote from: jobo_ph on November 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM

Chipping in my experience...

I also use Sabian Cymbal Cleaner (Sabian cast B20 cymbals).

Nag-o-orange nga, if you follow the bottle directions strictly (which is what I did the first time).

To avoid that, here's what I do now...

After spraying, Sabian cymbal cleaner and leaving it on for up to a minute or so, I thoroughly rinse with running water.

I dab (not wipe) with a towel to dry.

Afterwards, I spray WD40 and let it soak for a few seconds, then I wipe excess off.

Hope this helps.

This happened to me. Yung mga parts na na-wipe ko nagkulay brass. Mababalik pa ba siya sa dati nyang b20 color? Thanks!

EDIT: Ngek, pupunasan lang pala ng madiin hehe. I'll use the tip that you have given next time. Thanks!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: jobo_ph on December 22, 2011, 08:25:53 AM

Also read somewhere that clear floorwax (aside from carnauba wax), can be applied then buffed off after drying, to help protect B20 cymbals from oxidation. I will try to do this after I clean my cymbals (using Sabian cleaner) next time.

Title: Re: SABIAN Cymbals and Products Thread
Post by: bulok on December 22, 2011, 09:33:21 PM

Quote from: jobo_ph on November 19, 2011, 10:56:23 AM

Chipping in my experience...

I also use Sabian Cymbal Cleaner (Sabian cast B20 cymbals).

Nag-o-orange nga, if you follow the bottle directions strictly (which is what I did the first time).

To avoid that, here's what I do now...

After spraying, Sabian cymbal cleaner and leaving it on for up to a minute or so, I thoroughly rinse with running water.

I dab (not wipe) with a towel to dry.

Afterwards, I spray WD40 and let it soak for a few seconds, then I wipe excess off.

Hope this helps.

talaga? ok lang ba gamitin ang WD40 sa cymbals(B20 alloy)? testing ko din yung clear floorwax :-D

Title: other cymbal cleaner for meinl cymbals?
Post by: ron12222 on January 30, 2012, 11:38:30 PM

anu pa bang pedeng cymbal cleaner sa meinl cymbal bukod sa meinl cymbal cleaner nila(yung hindi mangungupas yung kulay at magiging gold ule :)).. wala kasi ako mahanap dito puros pang zildjian nakikita ko.. kung meron po kayong alam na nagbebenta ng meinl cymbal cleaner papost naman po dito thanks! :)

Title: Re: other cymbal cleaner for meinl cymbals?
Post by: vandal on January 31, 2012, 02:28:42 AM

anong line ng Meinl? ang panlinis kasi depende kung cast cymbal or sheet cymbal. pero meron din namang pwede for all. ang alam ko may zildjian cleaner na pwede sa lahat, whether sheet bronze or cast cymbal.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: glennaui on January 31, 2012, 06:37:17 PM

napansin ko lang... yung Meinl Classic  Splash 10 ko
kahit hawak hawakan ko, hindi nagdudumi masyado...

pag pinolish ko naman, no discoloration and hindi nabubura yung Logo... kaya bilib na bilib ako sa Meinl eh...
Yung ZHT splash ko, kasabay nung Meinl Splash... andumi na ngayun at malapit ng hindi makita yung logo...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: ianhisoka47 on February 01, 2012, 02:19:28 AM

Ok lang ba na nililinis araw araw yung cymbals gamit yung Kiwi Metal Polish?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: glennaui on February 02, 2012, 08:55:18 AM

Quote from: ianhisoka47 on February 01, 2012, 02:19:28 AM

Ok lang ba na nililinis araw araw yung cymbals gamit yung Kiwi Metal Polish?

ninipis chaka may discoloration... try GLO Bronze polish
tapos pasadahan mo ng wipe na may baby oil...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: juan sinko on February 09, 2012, 03:16:57 AM

Quote from: ianhisoka47 on February 01, 2012, 02:19:28 AM

Ok lang ba na nililinis araw araw yung cymbals gamit yung Kiwi Metal Polish?

hindi ba maging ngo ngo ang tunog  ng cymbals kapg ginamitan mo ng metal polish lang?

Quote from: vandal on January 31, 2012, 02:28:42 AM

anong line ng Meinl? ang panlinis kasi depende kung cast cymbal or sheet cymbal. pero meron din namang pwede for all. ang alam ko may zildjian cleaner na pwede sa lahat, whether sheet bronze or cast cymbal.

I use Meinl Cymbal Cleaner sa Cymbals ng inassist kong drummer :)

Im also looking for a Groove juice by promark wala na sa audiophile ?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: thunder_god on February 10, 2012, 12:00:07 AM

Trade secret pa din yung technique ni "autoexec" pero I think yung technique niya yung pinaka-effective, fastest and safest way to clean our pies. Sayang lang at hinde na siya nag-aaccept ng cleaning services....  :cry:


http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=142724.0

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: OKciN on February 13, 2012, 12:27:22 PM

what can you say?? hehe....  :idea: :idea: :idea:

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p559/OKcin_Burgo/Untitled.jpg)

Im so Surprised! haha... lht ginawa ko para malinis yung hats na yan,
 nag "Nilagang Cymbals' na rin ako pero wa effect,
nag WD-40 ako nag dark yung color...
and then Boom!!! ayan na !haha btw b20 yan diba? heheh.. hope you like it...
eto pla yung Hat galing kay Sir Vincent Alzate sa UD atbp...  ngyon ko lng nakita to ng ganito ka linis mga pari! haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: plitipiw40315 on February 13, 2012, 12:43:28 PM

Quote from: OKciN on February 13, 2012, 12:27:22 PM

what can you say?? hehe....  :idea: :idea: :idea:

(http://i1155.photobucket.com/albums/p559/OKcin_Burgo/Untitled.jpg)

Ayos bro, share mo naman yang teknik mo..  :wave:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: OKciN on February 13, 2012, 12:57:58 PM

Sir grabe linis nyan... mga stick marks,finger prints at yung iba't ibang discoloration nawala haha.. nung ginawa ko kasi yung "nilagang cymbals" parang nag dark tapos parang may mga violet na discoloration na ngyari e... tapos nung nag apply ako ng secret weapon gulat ako e... hindi ko inaasahan na ganun effect... nawalan kasi ako pag asa nun umitim e... hindi ko lng sure kung pati sa ibang mga cymbals e effective, tapos 100% logo intact yang way ko...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: plitipiw40315 on February 13, 2012, 01:03:59 PM

Quote from: OKciN on February 13, 2012, 12:57:58 PM

Sir grabe linis nyan... mga stick marks,finger prints at yung iba't ibang discoloration nawala haha.. nung ginawa ko kasi yung "nilagang cymbals" parang nag dark tapos parang may mga violet na discoloration na ngyari e... tapos nung nag apply ako ng secret weapon gulat ako e... hindi ko inaasahan na ganun effect... nawalan kasi ako pag asa nun umitim e... hindi ko lng sure kung pati sa ibang mga cymbals e effective, tapos 100% logo intact yang way ko...

hehe, mukhang gagawin mo ding trade secret yan bro ah..  :-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: OKciN on February 13, 2012, 01:32:14 PM

MGA BOSSING... Observed ko muna yung Cymbals ko after mga 5 days wala parin side effect sabihin ko sa inyo kung papano... no chemicals involve I just want to make sure... heheh.. see you po sa inyong lahat!! hehe

Title: Re: Re: DIY: CYMBALS : UPGRADED Formula!! A Discovery Of Removing Stains
Post by: deniedsyndicate on March 14, 2012, 09:59:19 PM

Mababalik ko pa ba ang kintab nito? :)

(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9932/43115233737685005311158l.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: trx30 on March 19, 2012, 04:00:38 PM

Here's my 22" Zildjian Impulse Ride after cymbal cleaning experiment. Share ko lang...

Before:

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283443_107163126052506_100002764577287_35777_6666198_n.jpg)

After:

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419161_201196759982475_100002764577287_268211_1626131310_n.jpg)

16" Zildjian A Custom Crash

Before:

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281269_107163192719166_100002764577287_35779_636923_n.jpg)

After:

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423816_201197156649102_100002764577287_268219_1920422132_n.jpg)

Both Cymbals Together:

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419801_201197583315726_100002764577287_268224_434634771_n.jpg)

I did not use anything that would harm my cymbals. It's all natural.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on March 19, 2012, 05:56:04 PM

Quote from: trx30 on March 19, 2012, 04:00:38 PM

Here's my 22" Zildjian Impulse Ride after cymbal cleaning experiment. Share ko lang...

Before:

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283443_107163126052506_100002764577287_35777_6666198_n.jpg)

After:

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419161_201196759982475_100002764577287_268211_1626131310_n.jpg)

16" Zildjian A Custom Crash

Before:

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281269_107163192719166_100002764577287_35779_636923_n.jpg)

After:

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423816_201197156649102_100002764577287_268219_1920422132_n.jpg)

Both Cymbals Together:

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419801_201197583315726_100002764577287_268224_434634771_n.jpg)

I did not use anything that would harm my cymbals. It's all natural.

kalamansi?anu ginawa mo bro?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: deniedsyndicate on March 19, 2012, 06:30:51 PM

Quote from: trx30 on March 19, 2012, 04:00:38 PM

Here's my 22" Zildjian Impulse Ride after cymbal cleaning experiment. Share ko lang...

Before:

(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283443_107163126052506_100002764577287_35777_6666198_n.jpg)

After:

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419161_201196759982475_100002764577287_268211_1626131310_n.jpg)

16" Zildjian A Custom Crash

Before:

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281269_107163192719166_100002764577287_35779_636923_n.jpg)

After:

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423816_201197156649102_100002764577287_268219_1920422132_n.jpg)

Both Cymbals Together:

(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419801_201197583315726_100002764577287_268224_434634771_n.jpg)

I did not use anything that would harm my cymbals. It's all natural.

bro, pashare naman ng secret cymbal cleaner formula mo :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: trx30 on March 20, 2012, 10:28:32 AM

Quote from: bulok on March 19, 2012, 07:22:07 PM

walanjo? sabihin nyo na :cry:

Quote from: deniedsyndicate on March 19, 2012, 08:31:25 PM

please mga kapatid, share niyo na  :cry:

I'm still perfecting the formula... There is a minor issue when I tried this experiment... But won't mention it...  :-D
The formula is within the ingredients of KETCHUP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sux5ogosZ78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sux5ogosZ78)

I'm still experimenting and trying to unlock it...
That's all the help I can give... TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK... Don't blame me if something bad happen to your cymbal!
I recommend that you only use this on cymbals that are REALLY crappy/old/rusty/dirty or whatever term you can think of...
I don't think this would benefit new cymbals... By the way I didn't use KETCHUP cleaning...  :)

Thanks!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: OKciN on March 20, 2012, 11:55:55 AM

KALAMANSI LNG YAN MGA PRE... yun sakin kalamansi lng e... bili kayo 10 pesos na kalamansi bawat cymbals 3-4pieces of kalamansi.. finger gamitin niyo sa pag kuskus sa cymbals... makikita niyo agad ang difference make sure lng na kuskusin ng mabuti ng "kalamansi" ang cymbals... pagkatapos hayaan niyo lng ng about 2mins... then banlawan niyo ng tubig.. tapos tuyuin ng mabuting mabuti... kung pwede i polish niyo ng piece of cloth yun lng.. nakaka ngalay... then ayun tapos na post niyo na yung result niyo haha.. ganun ginawa ko dun sakin... wuhan yung hi hat ko ang alam ko b20 bronze yun... wala nmn naging bad effect sakin.. pero ingat din ah d ko kasi sure sa ibang mga brand e.. pero natural nmn yung diba ..... goodluck!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: trx30 on March 20, 2012, 01:29:15 PM

Quote from: OKciN on March 20, 2012, 11:55:55 AM

KALAMANSI LNG YAN MGA PRE... yun sakin kalamansi lng e... bili kayo 10 pesos na kalamansi bawat cymbals 3-4pieces of kalamansi.. finger gamitin niyo sa pag kuskus sa cymbals... makikita niyo agad ang difference make sure lng na kuskusin ng mabuti ng "kalamansi" ang cymbals... pagkatapos hayaan niyo lng ng about 2mins... then banlawan niyo ng tubig.. tapos tuyuin ng mabuting mabuti... kung pwede i polish niyo ng piece of cloth yun lng.. nakaka ngalay... then ayun tapos na post niyo na yung result niyo haha.. ganun ginawa ko dun sakin... wuhan yung hi hat ko ang alam ko b20 bronze yun... wala nmn naging bad effect sakin.. pero ingat din ah d ko kasi sure sa ibang mga brand e.. pero natural nmn yung diba ..... goodluck!

@OKciN - You're right, pero un nga ang downfall sa kalamansi lang. Nakita mo naman siguro nangyari sa cymbal mo kpg natutuyo na may kalamnsi?

@ALL
nasisira yung protective coat nila... prang naging bare metal n ung cymbal... kaya nga do it at your own risk... bumili pa ko ng cymbal protection na solution pra lang maibalik yung shine ng cymbal ko... pro nung ketchup lng nilagay ko sa isang small spot ng isa kong cymbal, mgnda kinalbasan vs d kalamansi alone. kung feeling nio ok n ung kalamansi lang... it's your choice, i respect that I'm not here to argue... all i'm saying kalamansi won't do it alone... kya nga sabi ko di complete ang solution.... magiging dry ang cymbal eventually...

lht ng yan ay according sa n experience ko and has nothing to do sa outcome ng cymbal cleaning ng iba... results may vary...
again guys do it at you own risk... kelangan pa ng research and experiment.....


Good Luck sa cymbal cleaning...  :-o

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on March 20, 2012, 02:12:37 PM

may nabasa ako vinegar ang ginamit na panglinis? natesting nyo na ba yun? mgeexperiment din muna ako tungkol sa kalamansi, subukan ko din lagyan ng wax pagkatapos linisin

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: deniedsyndicate on March 20, 2012, 09:48:25 PM

Quote from: trx30 on March 20, 2012, 10:28:32 AM

I'm still perfecting the formula... There is a minor issue when I tried this experiment... But won't mention it...  :-D
The formula is within the ingredients of KETCHUP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sux5ogosZ78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sux5ogosZ78)

I'm still experimenting and trying to unlock it...
That's all the help I can give... TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK... Don't blame me if something bad happen to your cymbal!
I recommend that you only use this on cymbals that are REALLY crappy/old/rusty/dirty or whatever term you can think of...
I don't think this would benefit new cymbals... By the way I didn't use KETCHUP cleaning...  :)

Thanks!

Tried cleaning it and see for myself :D

Here is the result :)





(http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9932/43115233737685005311158l.jpg)
Before

(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4093/img0554oe.jpg)
After

Still in the cleaning and polishing process :P
problema ko lang, hindi natatanggal ung mga patina (green stuff)? any ideas? haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: OKciN on March 21, 2012, 05:19:38 AM

kus kus lng ng kuskus bro matatanggal yan "finger+kalamansi".. yung sakin natanggal kalamansi lng.. haha... experiment lng tayo!! haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on March 21, 2012, 06:04:41 PM

haha ayos nga! kaso bawas yung kintab nung sinubukan ko sa b8 alloy pagkatapos linagyan ko ng clear na floor wax

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: OKciN on March 22, 2012, 05:40:56 AM

nice!!! hhehe btw.. is it a good thing or a bad? hahaha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on March 22, 2012, 12:31:05 PM

Quote from: OKciN on March 22, 2012, 05:40:56 AM

nice!!! hhehe btw.. is it a good thing or a bad? hahaha

so far so good.. :-D hindi ko pa nga lang nasusubukan sa b20 alloy pero mukang effective din tingin ko gawa sa b8 gumana agad

Title: Re: ISTANBUL cymbals thread
Post by: kenwood_geronga on April 23, 2012, 04:11:27 PM

Sir Sandy pa share naman on how you use Suka to clean your pies.

Saw your post on Usapang Drummer sa FB. Thanks.  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sandythedrummer on April 23, 2012, 10:30:35 PM

Nothing magical about it! Suka then scrub it gently. Then lagay ng protective coating. I don't recomend it sa mga A Customs and alike brilliant cymbals.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v731/sandyman/suka.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: blindedfox on April 24, 2012, 09:34:41 AM

Eto din yung akin. Vinegar at patience. :)

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/blindedfox/cymbals.jpg)

After cleaning, ung sound nun cymbals naging a bit brighter. Mas nakakahinga un cymbal.
Kaya nga niretract ko ang mga ito sa classifieds hehe. Bigla ko kc nagustuhan un sound nila after cleaning hehe!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on October 10, 2012, 11:05:26 AM

sir wala na lang po ba na naglilinis ng cymbals dito sa philmusic? tipong magbabayad na lang para malinisan ung mga cymbals ko la kasi ako time pag saturday practice na namin sa church pag sunday naman tugtugan mula 9am hanggang gabi na un moday to friday may work naman po ako

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 10, 2012, 11:43:42 PM

Quote from: otepandrew on October 10, 2012, 11:05:26 AM

sir wala na lang po ba na naglilinis ng cymbals dito sa philmusic? tipong magbabayad na lang para malinisan ung mga cymbals ko la kasi ako time pag saturday practice na namin sa church pag sunday naman tugtugan mula 9am hanggang gabi na un moday to friday may work naman po ako

meron dati si autoexec pero mukhang nag-lie low siya sa cymbal cleaning services niya. not too sure if dabomb offers the same service though.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: musicianurse28 on October 14, 2012, 08:49:24 PM

Pwede ba gamitan ng Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner ang mga Stagg Cymbals? Thanks

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Akira JUMBO on October 14, 2012, 09:37:48 PM

Quote from: musicianurse28 on October 14, 2012, 08:49:24 PM

Pwede ba gamitan ng Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner ang mga Stagg Cymbals? Thanks

Yes

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: butikingpalo on October 15, 2012, 12:24:05 AM

Saan makakabili ng Groove Juice? Masakit na kasi kamay sa kaka punas. hehehe. Thanks!  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on October 15, 2012, 02:24:30 PM

Quote from: deniedsyndicate on March 19, 2012, 06:30:51 PM

bro, pashare naman ng secret cymbal cleaner formula mo :)

sir pano niyo nalinis ng ganyan share naman po ganyan na rin kulay ng cymbals ko eh

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: otepandrew on November 09, 2012, 12:28:13 PM

autoxec? mag PM naman po kayo sakin papalinis lang ako ng cymbalas kung pwde size mayn dalawang size 18 ako isang size 15 at isang size 10 at ung hats ko ay size14 di pa naman gnon kadumi i got 5 cymbals

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: music_en_sound on January 23, 2013, 01:53:42 AM

Quote from: blindedfox on April 24, 2012, 09:34:41 AM

Eto din yung akin. Vinegar at patience. :)

(http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/ee510/blindedfox/cymbals.jpg)

After cleaning, ung sound nun cymbals naging a bit brighter. Mas nakakahinga un cymbal.
Kaya nga niretract ko ang mga ito sa classifieds hehe. Bigla ko kc nagustuhan un sound nila after cleaning hehe!

good day sir! pa share naman pano procedure mo, pano ina-apply ang vinegar sa cymbals, is it spray or derecho na sa scotch brite and gaano po kadami. also, after po isisin ano po final step? wipe it with wet cloth? pano po ba? thanks ng marami... stagg SH nga po pala lilinisin ko. thanks ulit...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: onori on January 23, 2013, 10:09:29 AM

wala pa din tatalo sa lemon. just slice it. then pahid mo sa TRADITIONAL finish na cymbal. then sundan mo lang lang tonal grooves. :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: music_en_sound on January 25, 2013, 02:58:10 AM

Quote from: onori on January 23, 2013, 10:09:29 AM

wala pa din tatalo sa lemon. just slice it. then pahid mo sa TRADITIONAL finish na cymbal. then sundan mo lang lang tonal grooves. :)

ano po pwede substitute sa tonal grooves? di ko po kasi alam yun eh...

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bugoy on February 05, 2013, 08:07:32 AM

heard of this ?

Title: Re: Panglinis ng cymbals
Post by: lupin on February 06, 2013, 03:11:15 PM

Sir Peeves,

Hindi ba nabubura yung logo pag ginawa itong paglubog sa baking powder at mainit ng tubig?

Quote from: peeves24 on May 31, 2006, 08:56:28 AM

oily masyado ang wd-40 tapos may amoy pa. go nilagang cymbals dude...masarap yun

eto ingredients:

- plangana na kasya yung pinakamalaki mong cymbal
- mainit na tubig pero hindi kumukulo ha
- baking soda na mabibili sa inyong suking tindahan

bili ka ng baking soda sa grocery tapos pakulo ka ng tubig. opkors yung tubig mo dapat malulubog mo yung cymbal. tapos usually isang dakot na baking soda ang ihahalo ko dun sa tubig habang mainit. konting halo. tapos lipat mo yung hot water sa plangana. ilagay mo yung cymbal mo sa tubig for 5 minutes. di mo kailangan galawin, yaan mo lang sya magswimming. tapos alisin mo sa tubig at punusan mo ng dry cotton cloth. just dont expect it to be shiny like after applying metal polish.

i've first known about this watching the food network, italian chefs use baking soda/hot water combo to clean pots and pans. then i read about using it on cymbals from pinoydrums.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bugoy on February 12, 2013, 07:52:51 PM

bakit sinasabi ng iba na hindi ok gumamit ng metal polish sa cymbals ?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: drumachine on February 13, 2013, 09:34:30 AM

Quote from: bugoy on February 12, 2013, 07:52:51 PM

bakit sinasabi ng iba na hindi ok gumamit ng metal polish sa cymbals ?

may abrassive contents ang metal polish which can scratch the cymbals. making it thinner in the long run.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rubbershoes on February 16, 2013, 08:38:24 PM

tried ketchup sa avedis hats..nalinis pero di pantay pantay..
kaso di ko napicturan before ko linisan sa sobrang excitement..hehe..
 :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: rubbershoes on February 16, 2013, 08:41:51 PM

napansin ko lang din na nabubura logo nya pag ginamitan ng catsup..

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: treb 821 on April 22, 2013, 08:19:46 PM

i was wondering if anyone here has already used the Vater Cymbal Polish/Cleaner? Comments will be highly appreciated! TIA!  :cool:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: michael.astigin on October 31, 2013, 02:53:00 PM

wag mo lang ipahiram para magtagal mga cymbals mo

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 01, 2013, 07:50:59 PM

Quote from: rubbershoes on February 16, 2013, 08:38:24 PM

tried ketchup sa avedis hats..nalinis pero di pantay pantay..
kaso di ko napicturan before ko linisan sa sobrang excitement..hehe..
 :)

hindi ba naalis yung protective coating ng avedis nung ginamit?
Nagtry ako ng drop ng Heinz Tomato Ketchup sa Schimitar ko, parang hindi natural yung naging kulay after my experiment eh.

Mas nagustuhan ko yung gumamit ako ng Datu Puti Suka. Kumintab yung cymbals ko and andun parin yung natural color niya.

:-)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: juan sinko on November 08, 2013, 12:36:32 AM

Quote from: treb 821 on April 22, 2013, 08:19:46 PM

i was wondering if anyone here has already used the Vater Cymbal Polish/Cleaner? Comments will be highly appreciated! TIA!  :cool:

Used one here. medyo nakakatanggal lang siya ng decal, pero ok siya
Used it with dry cloth and tissue paper

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on November 23, 2013, 02:52:34 PM

need opinions on this. i just bought a stagg DH china sa music source ali mall kahapon. 2 na lang stocks nila tapos yung isa may significant dent sa edge so i chose the other one. may hammer marks na uneven pero di ko pinansin dahil ive had this with my other staggs. paguwi ko, napansin ko may scratches sa isang side, di ko napansin dun sa store. concern ko lang, mag lealead kaya to sa crack sa future?

Thanks!  :)
 (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1455173_10152096490478064_1791950022_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1451566_10152096490828064_393884202_n.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 25, 2013, 08:11:11 PM

Quote from: iplaydrums4u on November 23, 2013, 02:52:34 PM

need opinions on this. i just bought a stagg DH china sa music source ali mall kahapon. 2 na lang stocks nila tapos yung isa may significant dent sa edge so i chose the other one. may hammer marks na uneven pero di ko pinansin dahil ive had this with my other staggs. paguwi ko, napansin ko may scratches sa isang side, di ko napansin dun sa store. concern ko lang, mag lealead kaya to sa crack sa future?

Thanks!  :)
 (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1455173_10152096490478064_1791950022_n.jpg)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1451566_10152096490828064_393884202_n.jpg)

The scratches won't lead to cracks unless they're deep enough. Posibleng factory defect yan or due to shipment mishandling. Medyo madilim yung pics though so I'm not really sure kung gaano ba kalaki yung damage ng scratchmarks sa pies mo.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: iplaydrums4u on November 25, 2013, 08:13:33 PM

Quote from: Riff_6603 on November 25, 2013, 08:11:11 PM

The scratches won't lead to cracks unless they're deep enough. Posibleng factory defect yan or due to shipment mishandling. Medyo madilim yung pics though so I'm not really sure kung gaano ba kalaki yung damage ng scratchmarks sa pies mo.

salamat nang marami sir. judging from the dents around the scratch, hindi siya deep eh. ill observe more pag mas nagamit ko na i guess kung lalaki yung "scratch" :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bugoy on November 27, 2013, 05:15:49 AM

meron ba nito sa JB or kung san man locally ?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41y-ITxGWgL._SX300_.jpg)

Gibraltar SC-19B Short Flanged Cymbal Sleeve4/Pac

http://www.amazon.com/Gibraltar-SC-19B-Flanged-Cymbal-Sleeve4/dp/B0002F73TE/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1385500491&sr=1-1&keywords=Gibraltar+SC-19B

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 27, 2013, 06:14:19 AM

Quote from: bugoy on November 27, 2013, 05:15:49 AM

meron ba nito sa JB or kung san man locally ?

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41y-ITxGWgL._SX300_.jpg)

Gibraltar SC-19B Short Flanged Cymbal Sleeve4/Pac

http://www.amazon.com/Gibraltar-SC-19B-Flanged-Cymbal-Sleeve4/dp/B0002F73TE/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1385500491&sr=1-1&keywords=Gibraltar+SC-19B

Nakow! meron pero bihira. umabot pa ako as far as SM Pampanga para lang makabili ng 1 set niyan. You could opt to go with Lazer, meron silang "rubber" version niyan.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: harugrugrug on November 27, 2013, 10:38:00 AM

just got one of those last week sa jb alabang town center. siguro swertehan lang.
 :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: shinsengumi on November 27, 2013, 01:58:02 PM

tried the "baking soda method" with my xs20 ride earlier..

lalo ata dumumi nag karon ng mga green thingy.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 27, 2013, 11:46:57 PM

Quote from: shinsengumi on November 27, 2013, 01:58:02 PM

tried the "baking soda method" with my xs20 ride earlier..

lalo ata dumumi nag karon ng mga green thingy.

"patina" to be exact. natanggal siguro yung protective coating ng cymbal mo, I assume matapang masyado yung pagkakalinis mo.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: shinsengumi on November 28, 2013, 07:58:36 AM

i dont think its patina sir. kasi ive just purchased yung VATER cleaner from lazer kagabi. kiskis linis ako.. kumintab siya and theres like a coating. pero di pa din natanggal yung dumi. medyo natanggal pero naumay na ko kaka kiskis haha :))

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bugoy on November 28, 2013, 10:11:29 AM

Quote from: shinsengumi on November 28, 2013, 07:58:36 AM

i dont think its patina sir. kasi ive just purchased yung VATER cleaner from lazer kagabi. kiskis linis ako.. kumintab siya and theres like a coating. pero di pa din natanggal yung dumi. medyo natanggal pero naumay na ko kaka kiskis haha :))

baka nuclear waste yan kulay green eh  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: shinsengumi on November 28, 2013, 11:11:58 AM

Quote from: bugoy on November 28, 2013, 10:11:29 AM

baka nuclear waste yan kulay green eh  :-D

BAKA NGA SIR. medyo nalalagas na yung buhok ko e. sa radiation siguro?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: kimpoy19 on December 05, 2013, 09:01:31 PM

Parang ganun din yung effect kapag ketsup ung ginamit panlinis.???

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: obiwan kenobi on December 07, 2013, 02:26:07 PM

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad349/vaughnedralin/B3BE745D-13CD-40C5-A117-688379C6F3B8_zpsjbev6ukh.png) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/vaughnedralin/media/B3BE745D-13CD-40C5-A117-688379C6F3B8_zpsjbev6ukh.png.html)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad349/vaughnedralin/AEF88632-C893-4A58-8A3C-8867583D9CEB_zpsc3omwyyn.png) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/vaughnedralin/media/AEF88632-C893-4A58-8A3C-8867583D9CEB_zpsc3omwyyn.png.html)

(http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad349/vaughnedralin/3517C7A0-5EE4-4E3E-BD31-3C4D23BE8414_zpsxqv57muk.png) (http://s950.photobucket.com/user/vaughnedralin/media/3517C7A0-5EE4-4E3E-BD31-3C4D23BE8414_zpsxqv57muk.png.html)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: powercharge on December 30, 2013, 10:04:33 PM

I just purchased and tried the Meinl Cymbal cleaner. It is by far the best and easiest to use. It totally outperformed the Zildjian cleaner. The logo will remain intact.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/3eqysudy.jpg)

Results
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/yzu9erep.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/yjy3u4us.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sir_db on January 16, 2014, 09:47:10 PM

sir, ask ko lang po papano po ba inaapply un? natatakot din kasi ako baka mabura logo...
may i ask po ung steps na ginawa po ninyo... salamat po....

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 17, 2014, 10:57:37 AM

Quote from: powercharge on December 30, 2013, 10:04:33 PM

I just purchased and tried the Meinl Cymbal cleaner. It is by far the best and easiest to use. It totally outperformed the Zildjian cleaner. The logo will remain intact.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/3eqysudy.jpg)

Results
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/yzu9erep.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/yjy3u4us.jpg)

Sir powercharge! these look great! just wanted to ask, does it not affect the logo at all? as in wala talaga, pero sa bakal, tanggal ang stick marks? :D

also, have you tried using this on Sheet cymbals like ZBT or B8?

lastly, magkano? :D

Thanks loads bro!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bugoy on January 17, 2014, 06:56:11 PM

walang before images ?

Quote from: powercharge on December 30, 2013, 10:04:33 PM

I just purchased and tried the Meinl Cymbal cleaner. It is by far the best and easiest to use. It totally outperformed the Zildjian cleaner. The logo will remain intact.

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/3eqysudy.jpg)

Results
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/yzu9erep.jpg)

(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/30/yjy3u4us.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: powercharge on January 21, 2014, 08:11:47 PM

1.Sorry walang before images.

2. Logos will not be erased nor get affected. I tested first on an older cymbal since takot din ako. Nung ok, I used it in my newer pies

3. Parang groove juice to. Spray evenly, wait for at least 15-20 seconds. Wipe off with a clean towel. I used two microfiber cloth. One for wiping off and the other one for final buff

4. Price is 1.1k sa Lyric

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: st_anger on January 21, 2014, 08:23:58 PM

Quote from: powercharge on January 21, 2014, 08:11:47 PM

1.Sorry walang before images.

2. Logos will not be erased nor get affected. I tested first on an older cymbal since takot din ako. Nung ok, I used it in my newer pies

3. Parang groove juice to. Spray evenly, wait for at least 15-20 seconds. Wipe off with a clean towel. I used two microfiber cloth. One for wiping off and the other one for final buff

4. Price is 1.1k sa Lyric

Just got this cleaner yesterday. 50% off sa lyric kaya I got the spray and the polish for 940 only.  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bugoy on January 21, 2014, 11:59:22 PM

sana may makapag post ng before and after hehe para kasing too good to be true na natatanggal yung stains ng cymbals pero intact yung logo. considered na stain din yung logo eh :P

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 22, 2014, 09:34:43 AM

Quote from: bugoy on January 21, 2014, 11:59:22 PM

sana may makapag post ng before and after hehe para kasing too good to be true na natatanggal yung stains ng cymbals pero intact yung logo. considered na stain din yung logo eh :P

OO Nga! HAHAHA

Bro St. Anger! baka pwede mo kaming pagbigyan ni sir Bugoy! :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: st_anger on January 22, 2014, 07:48:40 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on January 22, 2014, 09:34:43 AM

OO Nga! HAHAHA

Bro St. Anger! baka pwede mo kaming pagbigyan ni sir Bugoy! :D

Hehehe sir di pa masyado madumi cymbals ko. Just getting ready lang hahaha tsaka impulse buy lang din kasi 50% off

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 23, 2014, 09:39:06 AM

Quote from: st_anger on January 22, 2014, 07:48:40 PM

Hehehe sir di pa masyado madumi cymbals ko. Just getting ready lang hahaha tsaka impulse buy lang din kasi 50% off

Baka pwedeng magvolunteer ng cymbals ko HAHAHAHAHA anyway, pag may nilinisan ka bro, hope you could post photos of it :D thank youuuu!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: st_anger on January 23, 2014, 11:19:27 AM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on January 23, 2014, 09:39:06 AM

Baka pwedeng magvolunteer ng cymbals ko HAHAHAHAHA anyway, pag may nilinisan ka bro, hope you could post photos of it :D thank youuuu!

Sige sir. Bigyan kita ng cleaner and polish para matry mo sir. Saan ba area mo sir?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 23, 2014, 11:48:57 AM

Quote from: st_anger on January 23, 2014, 11:19:27 AM

Sige sir. Bigyan kita ng cleaner and polish para matry mo sir. Saan ba area mo sir?

OH MAN. ang bgait mo naman masyado sir :) hahaha makati area weekdays, or Katipunan area pag weekends :) dalin ko nalang sayo para makagawa tayo ng before after :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: st_anger on January 23, 2014, 08:23:52 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on January 23, 2014, 11:48:57 AM

OH MAN. ang bgait mo naman masyado sir :) hahaha makati area weekdays, or Katipunan area pag weekends :) dalin ko nalang sayo para makagawa tayo ng before after :)

Hehe malapit ka pang pala sir mindanao ave qc lang ako.. weekend is ok.. nasa qc cityhall ako sa saturday. May lalakarin ako sa sat ng umaga bukas til sunday ang cityhall this entire january. Just pm me sir

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on January 24, 2014, 09:39:35 AM

Quote from: st_anger on January 23, 2014, 08:23:52 PM

Hehe malapit ka pang pala sir mindanao ave qc lang ako.. weekend is ok.. nasa qc cityhall ako sa saturday. May lalakarin ako sa sat ng umaga bukas til sunday ang cityhall this entire january. Just pm me sir

HAHAHA! sige sabihan kita bro! Your kindness is very much appreciated!

Title: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: allankalan on June 26, 2014, 02:45:53 PM

Mga sir, ask ko lang baka may idea kayo na magandang panglinis/pampakintab ng cymbals.. brand.. price and kung san nakakabili.. Thanks. :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 02:50:53 PM

Mas maganda IMO kung cymbal cleaner na same brand ng cymbals mo ang gagamitin.

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 26, 2014, 03:15:55 PM

I recommend the Meinl Cymbal Cleaner. di nakakatanggal ng logos, pero grabe makalinis! :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 03:19:26 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 26, 2014, 03:15:55 PM

I recommend the Meinl Cymbal Cleaner. di nakakatanggal ng logos, pero grabe makalinis! :D

Epektib kaya yan laban sa bakat ng kamay ko? kung malakas yan eh makabili na!  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 26, 2014, 03:20:35 PM

^^^^ nakakainggit yung quote shet talaga.

anyway, ang alam ko okay talaga si meinl. pag nakabili ako, audition natin sa pawis mo =))

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 03:29:00 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 26, 2014, 03:20:35 PM

^^^^ nakakainggit yung quote shet talaga.

anyway, ang alam ko okay talaga si meinl. pag nakabili ako, audition natin sa pawis mo =))

ahahaha! Pede. Yung ride ko puro stick mark at bakat ng kamay ko. (Nylon tip yung gamit ko na stick)
Kaya pa kaya yun ng cymbal cleaner?

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 26, 2014, 03:32:12 PM

yung stickmarks oo, yung fingerprints, not sure. corrosion kasi yun most probably. lalo na pag kulay orange na.

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 26, 2014, 03:33:13 PM

Quote from: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 03:29:00 PM

ahahaha! Pede. Yung ride ko puro stick mark at bakat ng kamay ko. (Nylon tip yung gamit ko na stick)
Kaya pa kaya yun ng cymbal cleaner?

Haha gaano ba kalupit acidity ng kamay mo paps?
Grabe ang ulan dito samin,bad trip! Haha,ot lang.
Meinl nirecommend ko sa students ko,tignan ko magiging reaction nila in a few months,haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 03:47:59 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on June 26, 2014, 03:33:13 PM

Haha gaano ba kalupit acidity ng kamay mo paps?
Grabe ang ulan dito samin,bad trip! Haha,ot lang.
Meinl nirecommend ko sa students ko,tignan ko magiging reaction nila in a few months,haha

hala! For keep or bargain price na ata ang bagsak ng mga pompyang ko  :-(

@ Harugrugrug:

Post ko ba ulet yung pics? hehe

Oh sige kung ano makatanggal ng bakas ng kamay sa cymbals ko yung ang da best. hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: trojanpeter on June 26, 2014, 04:23:21 PM

Sir post ka pic ng before and after pagkatapos mo magamit kung anuman yung mabili mong cymbal cleaner. Tnx :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 26, 2014, 04:23:55 PM

^^^^

gamitan mo ng liha. tanggal yan XD HAHAHAHAHA

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 04:28:14 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 26, 2014, 04:23:55 PM

^^^^

gamitan mo ng liha. tanggal yan XD HAHAHAHAHA

O sige, tone is in the mojo nalang.  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 26, 2014, 07:19:56 PM

Quote from: robertshanepascual on June 26, 2014, 04:28:14 PM

O sige, tone is in the mojo nalang.  :lol:

Haha! Wag na lang! Mr.robert, hehe nacucurious talaga ako sa acidity ng kamay mo,hehe,magsuot Ka na lang gloves haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: allankalan on June 27, 2014, 10:24:27 AM

Mga sir, san kaya available ang Meinl Cymbal Cleaner na yan?  :wave:

sige mga sir magpopost ako ng pic ng before and after cleaning.. pero una.. kelangan ko muna makabili.. wahahahaha! mga magkano kaya un??  <_<

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 27, 2014, 10:39:32 AM

Quote from: allankalan on June 27, 2014, 10:24:27 AM

Mga sir, san kaya available ang Meinl Cymbal Cleaner na yan?  :wave:

sige mga sir magpopost ako ng pic ng before and after cleaning.. pero una.. kelangan ko muna makabili.. wahahahaha! mga magkano kaya un??  <_<

sa lyric sir. 1.1k yung spray on type yung bilin mo sir. mas okay. before and after pics please! :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: allankalan on June 27, 2014, 10:51:08 AM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 27, 2014, 10:39:32 AM

sa lyric sir. 1.1k yung spray on type yung bilin mo sir. mas okay. before and after pics please! :D

ayuz! sakto sa monday sweldo na! :) sure mga master, no problem.. post ko yung picture ng before and after dito.. :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 27, 2014, 10:58:53 AM

Quote from: allankalan on June 27, 2014, 10:51:08 AM

ayuz! sakto sa monday sweldo na! :) sure mga master, no problem.. post ko yung picture ng before and after dito.. :)

Ayus! balitaan mo kami sir!

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 27, 2014, 12:00:37 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 27, 2014, 10:58:53 AM

Ayus! balitaan mo kami sir!

Like! Haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: ronald_rko on June 27, 2014, 11:37:46 PM

pag ba ginamitan nung mga cymbal polish or nag papolish service naiiba ung tunog ? :O
haha lalo na ung sobrang itim na nung cymbal haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 28, 2014, 07:12:11 AM

Quote from: ronald_rko on June 27, 2014, 11:37:46 PM

pag ba ginamitan nung mga cymbal polish or nag papolish service naiiba ung tunog ? :O
haha lalo na ung sobrang itim na nung cymbal haha

Depends on the cleaner,and how you treat your cymbal,and the last one is how long and often you use your cymbals.
Some cleaners would remove the factory coating of the cymbals,then it would change the sound.it might also affect the
Resale value of the cymbal itself.

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 28, 2014, 08:27:30 PM

Quote from: ronald_rko on June 27, 2014, 11:37:46 PM

pag ba ginamitan nung mga cymbal polish or nag papolish service naiiba ung tunog ? :O
haha lalo na ung sobrang itim na nung cymbal haha

kung sobrang dumi na nung cymbal:

1. will it change the sound? oo. pag sobrang kapal na nung dumi, at natanggal siya, more often than not babalik ang brightness ng tunog nung cymbal
2.sustain also changes, mas matagal na.

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: NATSBRATS on June 28, 2014, 09:49:07 PM

Try Tomato Catsup..... Mganda resulta.... Madaming gumagamit....  :) :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 29, 2014, 02:11:58 AM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on June 28, 2014, 09:49:07 PM

Try Tomato Catsup..... Mganda resulta.... Madaming gumagamit....  :) :)

I wouldn't use the ketchup method sir kasi may mga acids ito na baka maka-corrode sa cymbals. best to use a polish pa rin for me :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 29, 2014, 07:08:02 AM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 29, 2014, 02:11:58 AM

I wouldn't use the ketchup method sir kasi may mga acids ito na baka maka-corrode sa cymbals. best to use a polish pa rin for me :)

Unless you are really Oc about it,hehe,
The best way is pranella after every use.

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: NATSBRATS on June 29, 2014, 09:48:30 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 29, 2014, 02:11:58 AM

I wouldn't use the ketchup method sir kasi may mga acids ito na baka maka-corrode sa cymbals. best to use a polish pa rin for me :)

Good thing I didn't try it yet.... He he he..... Just saw some videos.... I'll just leave my cymbals as it is then... :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2014, 09:19:57 AM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on June 29, 2014, 09:48:30 PM

Good thing I didn't try it yet.... He he he..... Just saw some videos.... I'll just leave my cymbals as it is then... :)

Better use a proper polish nalang sir! kesa tipid ng tipid tapos nasisira ang ating beloved pies <3 hahahaha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 30, 2014, 09:23:18 AM

Lalo na yung GLO metal polish  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2014, 09:33:18 AM

Quote from: robertshanepascual on June 30, 2014, 09:23:18 AM

Lalo na yung GLO metal polish  :lol:

nadale ako nun hahahaha nung newbie ako, halos every month, gino-GLO ko yung ZBT ko. HAHAHAHAHA KALBO SIYA EH =)))

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 30, 2014, 09:37:11 AM

siguradong kinis kintab yun  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2014, 09:41:23 AM

Quote from: robertshanepascual on June 30, 2014, 09:37:11 AM

siguradong kinis kintab yun  :lol:

malala nun, gusto pang gamitan ng buffer ng tatay ko HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: robertshanepascual on June 30, 2014, 09:50:14 AM

bwahahahahahaha! natawa ako  :lol:

kapag binanatan ng glo+buffer yan parang bagong wax na kotse ang kintab nyan  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 30, 2014, 04:45:42 PM

Quote from: robertshanepascual on June 30, 2014, 09:50:14 AM

bwahahahahahaha! natawa ako  :lol:

kapag binanatan ng glo+buffer yan parang bagong wax na kotse ang kintab nyan  :-D

Haha! Glo! Seryoso Ka dyan Ralph? Haha! Ako nagamit ko lang zbt ko e zildjian cleaner na amuy pledge,ehehe,
Wala naman nangyari.
Lalaban kaya ang glo and buffer sa acidity ni mr.robertshanepascual? Haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2014, 04:46:40 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on June 30, 2014, 04:45:42 PM

Haha! Glo! Seryoso Ka dyan Ralph? Haha! Ako nagamit ko lang zbt ko e zildjian cleaner na amuy pledge,ehehe,
Wala naman nangyari.
Lalaban kaya ang glo and buffer sa acidity ni mr.robertshanepascual? Haha

depende sa level of damage ng acid ng pawis ni shane hahahaha! pero yung ZBT ko nung time na yun, natanggal ang finger prints. pati yung lathing HAHAHAHAAHAHA

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: harugrugrug on June 30, 2014, 04:50:38 PM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on June 29, 2014, 09:48:30 PM

Good thing I didn't try it yet.... He he he..... Just saw some videos.... I'll just leave my cymbals as it is then... :)

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 30, 2014, 04:46:40 PM

depende sa level of damage ng acid ng pawis ni shane hahahaha! pero yung ZBT ko nung time na yun, natanggal ang finger prints. pati yung lathing HAHAHAHAAHAHA

Malay mo mataas ang level ng acidity niya,haha
Haha! Panalo yun ha! Hehe! Magbibihis nako paps! Punta nako dyan sa inyo! Wuhoo! Jam na Ito! Haha. :cute:

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 30, 2014, 04:53:12 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on June 30, 2014, 04:50:38 PM

Malay mo mataas ang level ng acidity niya,haha
Haha! Panalo yun ha! Hehe! Magbibihis nako paps! Punta nako dyan sa inyo! Wuhoo! Jam na Ito! Haha. :cute:

NAYZUU <3

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: sonicassault on June 30, 2014, 05:47:41 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on June 30, 2014, 04:46:40 PM

depende sa level of damage ng acid ng pawis ni shane hahahaha! pero yung ZBT ko nung time na yun, natanggal ang finger prints. pati yung lathing HAHAHAHAAHAHA

lathing na nga lang yung meron eh, yun pa ang nawala hahahaha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: blaze.rjay on July 04, 2014, 05:30:05 PM

si Guitar Salon my inooffer na Cymbal Spa ano masasbi nyo dun ? okay kaya yon ? :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 04, 2014, 05:32:53 PM

Quote from: blaze.rjay on July 04, 2014, 05:30:05 PM

si Guitar Salon my inooffer na Cymbal Spa ano masasbi nyo dun ? okay kaya yon ? :)

base sa services na nakita ko from guitar salon para sa mga guitars, hindi ako satisfied sa mga output nila. YMMV, personal experiencs to pati ng mga friends ko. mejo overpriced pa.


asyang, wala na yung cymbal cleaning service ni autoexec. grabe sobrang effective nun parang brandnew literal! :O

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: NATSBRATS on July 27, 2014, 07:49:55 PM

meron ba dito sa Pilipinas yung Sabian Cymbal Cleaner? Hindi nakakatanggal ng logo... Nakita ko demo sa youtube.... San makakabili at magkano? :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: 9_spiral on July 27, 2014, 09:05:12 PM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on July 27, 2014, 07:49:55 PM

meron ba dito sa Pilipinas yung Sabian Cymbal Cleaner? Hindi nakakatanggal ng logo... Nakita ko demo sa youtube.... San makakabili at magkano? :)

Bro check mo sa perfect pitch branches sa megamall or sa yupangco makati. Call them first to inquire. I have the Sabian cleaner pero nakakatanggal din siya ng logos. Effective siya magtanggal ng finger prints and stains. Tyagaan lang sa pagkuskos haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 28, 2014, 10:03:31 AM

Quote from: NATSBRATS on July 27, 2014, 07:49:55 PM

meron ba dito sa Pilipinas yung Sabian Cymbal Cleaner? Hindi nakakatanggal ng logo... Nakita ko demo sa youtube.... San makakabili at magkano? :)

Bro, try the MEINL Cymbal Cleaner. di nakaktanggal ng logos. pero kintab talaga. 980 per bottle ata sa lyric :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Cleaner
Post by: NATSBRATS on July 29, 2014, 01:29:20 AM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on July 28, 2014, 10:03:31 AM

Bro, try the MEINL Cymbal Cleaner. di nakaktanggal ng logos. pero kintab talaga. 980 per bottle ata sa lyric :)

Thanks bro..... Ok masubukan nga yan.... :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 10, 2014, 07:17:50 PM

 :wave: hello mga Sir! may mga question lang po ako. yung 21" A sweet ride ko po kasi may mga dirt na color black and fingerprints na nangitim na dahil sa pawis na nag oxidized na.. hindi na kaya tanggalin ng meinl cymbal cleaner. gusto ko po sana maalis kasi gusto ko malinis ung mga cymbals ko..
1. saan po ba makakabili ng brasso metal polish?. Nag research po ako regarding sa brasso ok naman ata siya and mukhang kaya tanggalin.
2. any recommendation po na ibang panlinis o pantanggal ng dumi?
Maraming salamat pos a tulong.. God Bless po!!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 11, 2014, 08:59:26 AM

Quote from: berny14 on August 10, 2014, 07:17:50 PM

:wave: hello mga Sir! may mga question lang po ako. yung 21" A sweet ride ko po kasi may mga dirt na color black and fingerprints na nangitim na dahil sa pawis na nag oxidized na.. hindi na kaya tanggalin ng meinl cymbal cleaner. gusto ko po sana maalis kasi gusto ko malinis ung mga cymbals ko..
1. saan po ba makakabili ng brasso metal polish?. Nag research po ako regarding sa brasso ok naman ata siya and mukhang kaya tanggalin.
2. any recommendation po na ibang panlinis o pantanggal ng dumi?
Maraming salamat pos a tulong.. God Bless po!!

1. NO.
2. Pwede mo subukan yung baking soda method na nabasa ko somewhere. popular din yung half lemon slice at asin. YMMV pero sa tingin ko kung di na kaya ng ibang brand ng cymbal cleaner, kelangan mo na ipa-refinish. But personally, I won't clean that ride  :-D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 11, 2014, 09:48:54 AM

Quote from: sonicassault on August 11, 2014, 08:59:26 AM

1. NO.
2. Pwede mo subukan yung baking soda method na nabasa ko somewhere. popular din yung half lemon slice at asin. YMMV pero sa tingin ko kung di na kaya ng ibang brand ng cymbal cleaner, kelangan mo na ipa-refinish. But personally, I won't clean that ride  :-D

+1

those metal polishes contain abrasive compounds na makakatanggal ng coating ng cymbal pati mabaka makaaffect sa tonal grooves nung cymbal. best not to clean kung di na kaya ng cymbal cleaner.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 11, 2014, 08:46:04 PM

gudeve ask ko lang po kung di po ba proportion ung weight ng K custom hybrid hats 14".. kasi ung top and bottom hats napansin ko di pantay ung kapal sa magkabilang side ang kapag nilagay ko siya sa stand ung top hats and bottom individually naka tagilid siya so di panatay ung bigat niya per side ng cymbal.. ask ko lang kung ganon po ba talaga... brandnew po ung hats.. ty

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 11, 2014, 09:12:41 PM

may natural side talaga ang hihats,di naman talaga magigigng perfect weight niya.pero can you show us
diagrams ng hats na sinasabi mo,mejo di ko gets kung tama ba yung nasa isip ko,at alam ko slightly overlarge
yung hybrids

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 12, 2014, 11:23:13 AM

Quote from: berny14 on August 11, 2014, 08:46:04 PM

gudeve ask ko lang po kung di po ba proportion ung weight ng K custom hybrid hats 14".. kasi ung top and bottom hats napansin ko di pantay ung kapal sa magkabilang side ang kapag nilagay ko siya sa stand ung top hats and bottom individually naka tagilid siya so di panatay ung bigat niya per side ng cymbal.. ask ko lang kung ganon po ba talaga... brandnew po ung hats.. ty

sabi nga ni sir harugrugrug, pics will help para makita natin yung problem.

pero check mo rin stands mo. kung mahina spring na stand mo, or kung di ganung kaganda yung hihat clutch, may lean talaga yung hats. IMHO, okay lang yung lean for a better wash :D

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 12, 2014, 11:52:17 AM

Quote from: berny14 on August 11, 2014, 08:46:04 PM

gudeve ask ko lang po kung di po ba proportion ung weight ng K custom hybrid hats 14".. kasi ung top and bottom hats napansin ko di pantay ung kapal sa magkabilang side ang kapag nilagay ko siya sa stand ung top hats and bottom individually naka tagilid siya so di panatay ung bigat niya per side ng cymbal.. ask ko lang kung ganon po ba talaga... brandnew po ung hats.. ty

pics would really help, but I think it would only be an issue if say the thickness of one side is like a rock ride and the other side is as thin as a thin splash. Tulad nung sabi ni ralph ayos nga yung may lean eh, para sakin walang dead air. But again, a too-big of a difference may be an issue.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 12:45:05 PM

haha ok po pasenysa na po wait pakita ko pic.. :eek:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 01:11:54 PM

eto po simple diagram ginawa ko sa paint.. pagpasensyahan niyo na   :) (http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/biboyalmodal/Kcust_zps125bb64d.jpg?t=1407820204)  naka tagilid siya sa stand kasi mas mabigat ung kabilang side.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 01:28:39 PM

another question po..
okay lang po ba kung nakaganito ung hihat.. wala bang magiging problema?? makalabas ung bottom hats
(http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/biboyalmodal/DSC_0067_zps76bca3a5.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 12, 2014, 01:45:37 PM

Quote from: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 01:11:54 PM

eto po simple diagram ginawa ko sa paint.. pagpasensyahan niyo na   :) (http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/biboyalmodal/Kcust_zps125bb64d.jpg?t=1407820204)  naka tagilid siya sa stand kasi mas mabigat ung kabilang side.

wow ok bakit wala akong paint skillz na ganyan?  :lol:
Anyway, hm, can't really say much about the weight.
Normal naman yung di pantay ang sara, pero medyo malaki sya para sakin, especially kung lagi ganyan.
Pwedeng di nga pantay yung weight ng hats mo. Pero pwede rin off-center yung hole, or maluwang yung hi hat rod mo, or sobrang taas ng setting ng tilter mo sa bottom hat, or a combination of any of those.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 12, 2014, 01:54:36 PM

Quote from: sonicassault on August 12, 2014, 01:45:37 PM

wow ok bakit wala akong paint skillz na ganyan?  :lol:
Anyway, hm, can't really say much about the weight.
Normal naman yung di pantay ang sara, pero medyo malaki sya para sakin, especially kung lagi ganyan.
Pwedeng di nga pantay yung weight ng hats mo. Pero pwede rin off-center yung hole, or maluwang yung hi hat rod mo, or sobrang taas ng setting ng tilter mo sa bottom hat, or a combination of any of those.

+1. hindi dapat sobrang laki ng difference nung weight nung cymbal. check mo i patong sa daliri mo, if it leans, cymbal problem most probably. kaya I was never a fan of the Hybrids hahahaha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 12, 2014, 02:14:56 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on August 12, 2014, 01:54:36 PM

+1. hindi dapat sobrang laki ng difference nung weight nung cymbal. check mo i patong sa daliri mo, if it leans, cymbal problem most probably. kaya I was never a fan of the Hybrids hahahaha

dahil ba hindi lathed yung gitna kaya hindi pantay yung weight distribution?

yung B8 ride ko may lean kasi off-center yung hole, baka ganun din yung kay berny14. yung sa bottom hat nya, baka tilter lang

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 02:24:10 PM

kapag sa daliri ganun pa din eh.. actually dun ko unang tinry .. pero ung tunog nung hihats grabe ang ganda..  :drool:
umg tilter sa bottom hats di naman nakalabas kaya hindi naka inclined ung bottom pero ganun padin laging lumalabas kung baga di sakto ung lapat nila.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 12, 2014, 02:34:09 PM

Quote from: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 02:24:10 PM

kapag sa daliri ganun pa din eh.. actually dun ko unang tinry .. pero ung tunog nung hihats grabe ang ganda..  :drool:
umg tilter sa bottom hats di naman nakalabas kaya hindi naka inclined ung bottom pero ganun padin laging lumalabas kung baga di sakto ung lapat nila.

kung maganda naman ang tunog, wala naman dapat problema as long as it doesnt bother your playing style. AMMK. palagi.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 02:42:37 PM

 :-D :) TOmo!! wala naman problem sa tunog aangal pa ako hehehe  :eek:... Case Closed na nga toh!! hahaha thank you po sa inyo!!

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 12, 2014, 03:00:07 PM

Quote from: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 02:42:37 PM

:-D :) TOmo!! wala naman problem sa tunog aangal pa ako hehehe  :eek:... Case Closed na nga toh!! hahaha thank you po sa inyo!!

pero pag ayaw mo na, benta mo sakin  :lol:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: berny14 on August 12, 2014, 03:09:29 PM

 :-D :-D :-D :-D  :-P

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: gss on August 13, 2014, 08:27:28 AM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on August 12, 2014, 02:34:09 PM

kung maganda naman ang tunog, wala naman dapat problema as long as it doesnt bother your playing style. AMMK. palagi.

yup...sir the problems you are noticing are based on what you see, not on what you hear...iba na ang usapan pag tunog na ang may problema...teka, hey...where are my smileys?! anyway : )

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diamond on August 21, 2014, 05:27:14 AM

Sirs, kaya ba tanggalin nung Meinl cymbal cleaner yung mga green (patina po ba yung tawag dun) stains?

Or, how about yung baking soda method?   

Napapatakan po kasi yung cymbals ng pawis ko habang nagliligpit tuwing matatapos sa gig. Tapos, malilimutan ko na pong punasan pagkauwi, dahil pagod na. Maalala ko lang po kinabukasan na. Tapos ayun, hindi ko na matanggal yung mga green.

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on August 21, 2014, 03:02:16 PM

Wala akong experience sa meinl cymbal cleaner pero sa calamansi at baking soda meron. Effective yung calamansi sa patina ingat lang sa logo kasi nakakabura ng logo. Pwede din yung suka at ketchup.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 22, 2014, 01:37:52 AM

sabi nila oks daw yung meinl so nirecommend ko sa mga students ko,wala pa naman nagrereklamo so far,haha

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Diamond on August 22, 2014, 01:42:53 AM

Alright, thank you sirs!  :wave:

Susubukan ko po muna yung calamansi/baking soda method. Balitaan ko po kayo kapag nalinis ko na yung cymbals ko.

Wala pa po akong budget para sa Meinl cymbal cleaner eh. Hehehehe.  :)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on August 22, 2014, 08:50:30 AM

Quote from: Diamond on August 22, 2014, 01:42:53 AM

Alright, thank you sirs!  :wave:

Susubukan ko po muna yung calamansi/baking soda method. Balitaan ko po kayo kapag nalinis ko na yung cymbals ko.

Wala pa po akong budget para sa Meinl cymbal cleaner eh. Hehehehe.  :)

Sa experience ko sa baking soda hindi natanggal yung patina. Pero sa calamansi, ketchup at suka, natanggal siya.
Ang magiging problem mo lang ay kung pano pakikintabin yung cymbals mo kasi nawawala yung kintab nung sinubukan ko yang mga yan.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 22, 2014, 10:46:46 AM

Quote from: bulok on August 22, 2014, 08:50:30 AM

Sa experience ko sa baking soda hindi natanggal yung patina. Pero sa calamansi, ketchup at suka, natanggal siya.
Ang magiging problem mo lang ay kung pano pakikintabin yung cymbals mo kasi nawawala yung kintab nung sinubukan ko yang mga yan.

unless going for "traditional finish" wala naman sigurong kaso yun  :) may nabasa ako sa ibang forum na pinupunasan nila ng pledge yung cymbals nila (actually pati metal shells). ang tanong ko ay, safe ba yun?  :-(

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 22, 2014, 11:12:36 AM

Quote from: sonicassault on August 22, 2014, 10:46:46 AM

unless going for "traditional finish" wala naman sigurong kaso yun  :) may nabasa ako sa ibang forum na pinupunasan nila ng pledge yung cymbals nila (actually pati metal shells). ang tanong ko ay, safe ba yun?  :-(

yes. safe ang pledge. lemon oil base lang din yun with aerosol.
ayoko lang ng oily cymbals hahahaha




bakit ba ayaw niyo ng patina... </3 it gives character to the cymbals brozzzz </3

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 22, 2014, 11:16:59 AM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on August 22, 2014, 11:12:36 AM

yes. safe ang pledge. lemon oil base lang din yun with aerosol.
ayoko lang ng oily cymbals hahahaha




bakit ba ayaw niyo ng patina... </3 it gives character to the cymbals brozzzz </3

onga naman. tsaka nakaka-mellow ng B8 yun! May narinig nga ako na Pearl brass crash ride na maganda ang tunog dahil puro patina.  :-o

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 22, 2014, 10:14:42 PM

Quote from: raLpH_pEtRucCi on August 22, 2014, 11:12:36 AM

yes. safe ang pledge. lemon oil base lang din yun with aerosol.
ayoko lang ng oily cymbals hahahaha




bakit ba ayaw niyo ng patina... </3 it gives character to the cymbals brozzzz </3

Kaya pala ang oily nung mga cymbals dun sa tugtog ko dati!!, binabagabag ako Niyan,Hindi ako makatulog
Dahil sa katanungan na yan,salamat papi Ralph, matatahimik nako,hehe

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on August 22, 2014, 11:13:51 PM

Anu naman nagagawa ng pledge sa cymbals? Nakakalinis ba sya at nakakatanggal ng stain or pampakintab at pang coating lang?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: bulok on August 22, 2014, 11:15:09 PM

Kahit anong klase ng pledge ba pwede?

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: sonicassault on August 23, 2014, 03:48:22 PM

Quote from: bulok on August 22, 2014, 11:13:51 PM

Anu naman nagagawa ng pledge sa cymbals? Nakakalinis ba sya at nakakatanggal ng stain or pampakintab at pang coating lang?

di ko pa nasusubukan, pero sabi nila layer of protection from dirt para hindi kumapit. pero yun nga tulad ng sabi ni ralph, oily. Yung linis, deins, para syang liquid feather duster.

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 23, 2014, 11:42:16 PM

what can i do to remove this on my cymbal? zbt po to. discoloring? pero wala syang bulk or etc . pag hinawakan parang normal lang.
(http://s4.postimg.org/aprnqtqy5/image.jpg)

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: harugrugrug on August 25, 2014, 12:26:45 PM

Back read Ka bro,nandito na sa previous post ang ka sagutin mo. ^-^

Title: Re: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread
Post by: lockedonstratos on August 30, 2014, 12:06:54 PM

Quote from: harugrugrug on August 25, 2014, 12:26:45 PM

Back read Ka bro,nandito na sa previous post ang ka sagutin mo. ^-^

nilaga kona, nakagamit narin ng kalamansi at wipe-out.  may nagsabi sakin "kalawang/corrosion" daw. any ways to fix or prevent it? pagkakatanda ko maliit lang dati yan e  :-o