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Title: Cybercrime Law
Post by: weedurpart2 on October 01, 2012, 06:54:09 PM
I'm surprised no ones brought this up yet.
I'm so tempted to troll the shiit out of their FB page - Cybercrime Law goes in action, prematurely! (http://kristianlora.wordpress.com/2012/10/01/breaking-news-cybercrime-law-goes-in-action-prematurely/)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rickbig41 on October 01, 2012, 06:59:08 PM
hehehe...parang premature nga yan...pasikat lang siguro mga kandidato...sa kalsada maraming totoong crime..wag sa internet... >:D sana naman inayos muna yan.... :eek:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: houdiniroyo on October 01, 2012, 07:36:18 PM
Isang malaking kalokohan yan. Subukan nila implement yan, tingnan natin ano mangyari sa kanila online. Magagaya sila kay sotto XD
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: globalwarmthings on October 01, 2012, 08:07:44 PM
akala ko ba democracy tayo? :-P
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: kurtcobainer on October 01, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
MEDIA ADVISORY Philippine Internet Freedom Alliance 1 October 2012
Philippine Internet Freedom Alliance Holds Black Tuesday Silent Protest Against Cybercrime Prevention Act
What: The Philippine Internet Freedom Alliance (PIFA) composed of different organizations, netizens, and bloggers, will hold a silent protest
When: Tuesday, October 2, 11am
Where: Supreme Court of the Philippines
The group will be carrying plain black placards as a symbol of the curtailment of freedom of speech that the Cybercrime Prevention Act brought.
The protest will be joined by the organizations and individuals in the alliance: Freelance Writers Guild of the Philippines, Filipino Freethinkers, Dakila-Philippine Collective for Modern Heroism, Colaition for Reform, Partido Lakas ng Masa, The ProPinoy Project, Pinoy Expats/OFW Blog Awards, Inc., blogger and editor of Blog Watch Noemi Lardizabal-Dado, Music.ph’s Jim Ayson, and blogger Carlo Ople.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skrumian on October 01, 2012, 09:01:19 PM
Statement: The Philippine National Police on their official website and Facebook account, October 1, 2012 Statement of Chief Superintendent Generoso R. Cerbo Jr.: On the official Philippine National Police Facebook account and website
[Released on October 1, 2012]
The PNP categorically denies any official connection to a message which appeared in one particular Facebook account found by many to be offensive, threatening, and malicious. For one, official statements of the PNP, to include press releases, intended for public consumption, are published in digital form through our PNP official website, www.pnp.gov.ph, or Facebook under the account name facebook.com/pnp.pio. Further, said official statements can be released individually to our media friends both in hard and digital copies in the name of the PNP Public Information Office. We shall have this incident investigated ASAP. You will be updated on the developments.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rockophoria on October 01, 2012, 10:20:25 PM
dont bash me.. but I am actually in support of this law.. :-)
gusto ko makita kung paano nila ipapatupad to tapos kung papaano nila huhulihin yung mga magpopost ng libelous comments..
again be lenient on me :-D
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skrumian on October 01, 2012, 10:36:06 PM
I am too in support of this bill.
Most people do not even know the difference between freedom of speech and libel. Yeah, they have a thin line of difference and libel cases are being used to harass journalist. Nonetheless, the Supreme Court has already made a clear definition about the two.
IMHO, if you want to decriminalize libel, then you need to repeal the Revised Penal Code. People are barking in the wrong tree eh.
I can't wait to see how the SC will junk all the petitions against the Cybercrime law.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: brighteyesbayside on October 01, 2012, 10:48:46 PM
i'm a little indifferent about this bill. some time ago, people wanted atleast some kind of cybercrime bill.
now we have one, this is how people react. people are weird.
now this, i'm a bit concerned. http://www.interaksyon.com/infotech/phl-cybercrime-law-say-goodbye-to-torrent-and-file-sharing
hmmmmhhh. what if the person/entity wants to share its files for free. people are smart also, im sure someone would find a hole out of this.
besides, hardly any filipino seeds local films. hmmp. maybe someone should
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skrumian on October 01, 2012, 10:54:12 PM
^^if it is a personal file or a file without copyright, then you have no liability.
Of course, if the file is a copyrighted work, then that will be a problem. Besides, is there any government who had supported piracy?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rockophoria on October 01, 2012, 10:54:44 PM
Most people do not even know the difference between freedom of speech and libel. Yeah, they have a thin line of difference and libel cases are being used to harass journalist. Nonetheless, the Supreme Court has already made a clear definition about the two.
IMHO, if you want to decriminalize libel, then you need to repeal the Revised Penal Code. People are barking in the wrong tree eh.
I can't wait to see how the SC will junk all the petitions against the Cybercrime law.
yep.. isa sa mga ayaw ko sa internet is kung papaano ang nagiging takbo ng mga conversations.. minsan komo nagreply ka lang na hindi ka agree sa isang bagay eh kung ano ano na itatawag sayo, ili-lynch ka na agad pag you are on the contrary.. iinsultuhin ka pa palibhasa kasi wala ka naman magagawa sa isang internet forum or chatboard kundi gumanti lang din ng insulto so ang nangyayari nawawalan ng essence yung conversation.. puro gaguhan puro kupalan.. hanggang sa pagtitripan ka na sa internet pagtutulungan ka pati picture mo gagamitin na.
this things should be kept in check, malaya nga tayo pero freedom is not absolute, sabi nga ng isang columnist sa the philippine star eh: "The essence of freedom is best appreciated within the defining frame of its limitations"..
problema kasi sa ibang tao "abusado" sa freedom na ibinigay satin ng democracy.. ako aminado ako, I enjoy bashing people in the net.. BUT not until they bash me first, I enjoy a civilized intellectual conversation pero may mga tukmol sa internet na komo hindi sila agree sa opinion mo ito-troll ka na.. lalaitin ka na kung ano ano na itatawag sayo.. ang malupit pa nun gamit mo yung real profile mo tapos yung mga [avocado] sayo nagtatago sa isang anonymous profile.
kaya I will support this law.. wala naman akong problema on obeying the law, mas ok nga eh dahil magiging responsable na ang mga tao sa mga ipopost or sasabihin nila sa internet.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 01, 2012, 10:55:39 PM
dont bash me.. but I am actually in support of this law.. :-)
gusto ko makita kung paano nila ipapatupad to tapos kung papaano nila huhulihin yung mga magpopost ng libelous comments..
again be lenient on me :-D
There is no problem in the the first draft of this law. It's all about protecting the net from hacking, squatting in domains and restricting unauthorized access which is all good. However, the final approved version suddenly becomes very different. There is a section that provides the goverment power to monitor the data flow of users. This could be used to invade user privacy. And of course, it includes sections for online libel and higher punishment with it, which was added by someone who doesn't know how to use citations in important public articles and statements. The libel section is so vague and has no safeguard based on the possibilites that can happen in real cyberspace situation. A lot of media people and notable internet people realizes this and that is why the local internet community is reacting violently. If only this was properly consulted with the public and the respective persons in authority who has enough knowledge, things would have been more pleasant today.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skrumian on October 01, 2012, 11:23:24 PM
There is no problem in the the first draft of this law. It's all about protecting the net from hacking, squatting in domains and restricting unauthorized access which is all good. However, the final approved version suddenly becomes very different. There is a section that provides the goverment power to monitor the data flow of users. This could be used to invade user privacy. And of course, it includes sections for online libel and higher punishment with it, which was added by someone who doesn't know how to use citations in important public articles and statements. The libel section is so vague and has no safeguard based on the possibilites that can happen in real cyberspace situation. A lot of media people and notable internet people realizes this and that is why the local internet community is reacting violently. If only this was properly consulted with the public and the respective persons in authority who has enough knowledge, things would have been more pleasant today.
actually nabasa ko yung final draft.. and it says there na hindi kailangan ng warrant ang pag monitor ng "live" data sa internet.. meaning pag may reklamo na pwede ka na imonitor (surveillance) ng NBI pero I read there na yung ibang data (new/old or archived sa HD) at anything na hindi na mamomonitor in real time at kailangan na i-retrieve physically eh ang kailangan na ng warrant.
yep tama ka yung libel clause ang mejo vague, ang sinasabi lang dun eh yung mismong libel law natin.. so anything na nakasulat sa articles ng libel eh na violate mo with your posts online eh pwede ka ng kasuhan.. so it makes us wonder na kung alam mo na ang libel law eh gagawin mo pa bang i-violate yun?
siguro natatakot yung mga nasanay magsalita freely at mag criticize freely in the world wide web kahit walang evidences or valid sources.. altho mejo nakakatakot nga talaga yung libel clause dun eh I chose to support it to bring back discipline dun sa mga taong puro daldal lang at wala namang katotohanan yung mga sinasabi.. yung mga mahilig manira ng puri sa internet, mambatikos ng tao na wala namang basis.. actually all of them.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skrumian on October 01, 2012, 11:36:13 PM
There is a section that provides the goverment power to monitor the data flow of users. This could be used to invade user privacy.
As per Section 12. Real-time Collection of Traffic Data, Chapter IV of RA 10175, I believe a "due cause" is necessary for this. Which means, a court warrant is necessary.
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And of course, it includes sections for online libel and higher punishment with it, which was added by someone who doesn't know how to use citations in important public articles and statements. The libel section is so vague and has no safeguard based on the possibilites that can happen in real cyberspace situation. A lot of media people and notable internet people realizes this and that is why the local internet community is reacting violently. If only this was properly consulted with the public and the respective persons in authority who has enough knowledge, things would have been more pleasant today.
Personally, if you will just be a responsible netizens, you shouldn't fear libel. Before you click, you need to think. Besides, there will surely be a jurisprudence by the Supreme Court that will clarify things up.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rockophoria on October 01, 2012, 11:39:41 PM
Personally, if you will just be a responsible netizens, you shouldn't fear libel. Before you click, you need to think. Besides, there will surely be a jurisprudence by the Supreme Court that will clarify things up.
this.. tapos ang argumento
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 01, 2012, 11:42:46 PM
^ I think the meaning of a "published statement" has to be defined muna na kasama na ang internet as a medium. Old school libel is more on print media in papers with an author and a publisher, or a media man under a tv/radio company. The internet as we know is very different and has a culture of its own. Sa tingin ko kailangan muna i-define yun. A libel needs a the person suing and a respondent charged. Example, If they sue a blog using written by username guess-who-am-i-lulz and a blogsite, how do you get the author? What kind of evidences will be accepted? Will the blogsite be accountable? Things like that.
This was just last week. http://torrentfreak.com/file-sharing-for-personal-use-declared-legal-in-portugal-120927/ :mrgreen:
the article said only the prosecutors dropped the case. so it is not yet the court who ruled it so the complainant can still file for motion or elevate the case to the court.
but "for personal use" yeah it might be. just think of the copyright clause on books na kapag personal use eh ayos lang eh reproduce. but i guess for movies, software or other computer products might be different. well i just leave it to the courts to decide and make jurisprudence out of this.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 01, 2012, 11:57:27 PM
^ well, at least for now spared ang Portugal peeps for prosecution. That specific story is worth following. On topic related to that case, kung ISP lang ang hawak na evidence, would that suffice to sue and pursue someone? Our new law makes a lot of questions than answers as it may seems. In my opinion, I think our Cybercrime law is just not-ready-yet and totally half-baked.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: houdiniroyo on October 02, 2012, 12:07:03 AM
There is no problem in the the first draft of this law. It's all about protecting the net from hacking, squatting in domains and restricting unauthorized access which is all good. However, the final approved version suddenly becomes very different. There is a section that provides the goverment power to monitor the data flow of users.
Google nga tinanggal na yung ability to extract IP addresses freely from Google Analytics eh (well, I still extract IP Addresses from my visitors but it's against Google's TOS...) Tapos sila kukunin nila yung IP address ng mga tao at paiimbistegahan pa LOL mas malupit pa sila sa Google kung ganun :lol: Patawa talaga itong bill na ito. Napaka-vague, mabilisang ipinasa at siyempre hindi na naman maipapatupad ng maayos katulad ng sandamakmak na batas sa Pinas.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: houdiniroyo on October 02, 2012, 12:11:45 AM
Nandiyan na tayo sa mga issue na ganyan. Problema kasi, masyadong maraming troll na ginagawa lang talaga libangan ang mangupal online... trip-trip kumbaga. Dito lang sa forum eh sandamakmak na ang troll eh, minsan may malisya minsan wala naman talaga. Uunahin mo pa ba ikulong yang mga yan kaysa sa mga holdaper, carnapper, drug pushers at jueteng lords? Meron pang clause about Cyber Porn diyan, eh yung pinakamalalaking "porn house" dun sa Quezon Ave di nga nila ginagalaw ilang dekada na yun dun...
Sayang ang resources dito
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: ierofan on October 02, 2012, 12:16:08 AM
#OccupySupremeCourt
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skrumian on October 02, 2012, 12:22:29 AM
i believe most people are worried how the executive branch (PNP, NBI, DOJ) would implement it.
For me, what's important is how the judiciary will rule over cyber related cases.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: officebiker on October 02, 2012, 01:41:51 AM
I am imaginig this scene in my head: Full geared cops breaking down doors on cheap ass internet cafes..." Taas kamay! yang nasa computer number 4 naninira ng puri sa internet! sumama ka samin! iposas yan! "
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: weedurpart2 on October 02, 2012, 02:11:03 AM
So are we all supposed to sugarcoat dissatisfaction and be scared of voicing out criticisms with, say, the gov't, because this law is out there? With this, people can't just say: Sotto, you're a plagiarizer., and with the people we have in power being what they already are, this is dangerous and scary and oppressive.
For the most part though, i think there are true online crimes that does need to be monitored, and its about time they should... but theres a huge, huge part of me that prays they leave my pirated movies the [strawberry] alone.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: electronictokwa on October 02, 2012, 02:34:20 AM
So are we all supposed to sugarcoat dissatisfaction and be scared of voicing out criticisms with, say, the gov't, because this law is out there? With this, people can't just say: Sotto, you're a plagiarizer., and with the people we have in power being what they already are, this is dangerous and scary and oppressive.
This. Expressing your opinion against the government is not a crime. So pag sinabi ko bang [chewbacca] ang isang government official sa FB, pude na ako kasuhan?
Correct me if I'm dead wrong, pero sa tingin ko kaya na push ng tuluyan ang bill, eh dahil lang sa may napahiyang taong asal bata.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: sargento on October 02, 2012, 05:34:43 AM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 02, 2012, 08:13:30 AM
^ i think they can't execute a law beyond the Philippine territory. So wala yun. Unless may mutual treaty on both sides.
For the full copy of the law http://www.gov.ph/2012/09/12/republic-act-no-10175/
Now the fail parts IMO, - Libel - is just a small sentence within the punishable act which is highly dependent on Article 355 of the Revised Penal Code which is only a small paragraph of ...
"Art. 355. Libel means by writings or similar means. — A libel committed by means of writing, printing, lithography, engraving, radio, phonograph, painting, theatrical exhibition, cinematographic exhibition, or any similar means, shall be punished by prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods or a fine ranging from 200 to 6,000 pesos, or both, in addition to the civil action which may be brought by the offended party."
Now try to incorporate the whole internet processes in that paragraph.
- the whole section 6 of punishable act; vagueness over 9000 - - collection of data in section 12, internet data like any property is private stuff. if it's ok to you for the government to check your snail-mail, love letters, packages and bills, maybe they can do the same with your downloads and uploads. - section 12 collection of data, if the data is stored is in cloud application, it's totally useless. - section 19, can you actually believe the sentence mention to 'stop someone to access data'? just get a phone and your back at the instant.
Conclusion, the law is written by noobs who don't know the internet and epic pwnage is inevitable.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rockophoria on October 02, 2012, 10:00:15 AM
lets just wait and see :wink:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Uber_daniel on October 02, 2012, 10:07:13 AM
Sila din naman ang makikinabang dito. Kawawa padin ang nakararami.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dreamhaus09 on October 02, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
Kailan ba ang effectivity ng batas na ito? excited na ako makita kung ano ang mangyayari..
iSupport!!
hindi ba bukas yun? hehe sino kaya unang magtatago na senador? si sotto malamang haha
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on October 02, 2012, 12:35:27 PM
Sya na nga ang nagnakaw sya pa ang galit (http://imageshack.us/a/img802/1643/28303148450582823513357.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/28303148450582823513357.jpg/)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 02, 2012, 12:35:57 PM
"(b) Computer-related Offenses:" "(4) Libel. — The unlawful or prohibited acts of libel as defined in Article 355 of the Revised Penal Code, as amended, committed through a computer system or any other similar means which may be devised in the future."
"Service providers are required to cooperate and assist law enforcement authorities in the collection or recording of the above-stated information."
"Any person found guilty of the punishable act under Section 4(a)(5) shall be punished with imprisonment of prision mayor or a fine of not more than Five hundred thousand pesos (PhP500,000.00) or both."
OT:
@rockophoria - ikaw ba yang nasa profile pic mo ? ikaw ba yung drummer dati ng 6 cycle mind na bokalista na ngayon yung tuti ba yun ? kung hinde hehe kamukha mo kasi eh
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on October 02, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
See you in jail (http://imageshack.us/a/img802/1087/60156242595334746354321.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/802/60156242595334746354321.jpg/)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rockophoria on October 02, 2012, 02:40:05 PM
If anything na kailangang irevise dito sa cyberlaw eh yung libel clause lang, altho I still support it sana kung magkaron man ng TRO eh dun lang sa libel clause at WAG yung buong cybercrime act.
@rockophoria - ikaw ba yang nasa profile pic mo ? ikaw ba yung drummer dati ng 6 cycle mind na bokalista na ngayon yung tuti ba yun ? kung hinde hehe kamukha mo kasi eh
Hehe actually di ako marunong mag drums men.. baka kamukha ko lang sa anggulo na yan kasi may nginunguya akong mentos sa pic na yan hehe
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 02, 2012, 03:21:36 PM
dagdag raket to sa mga lawyer hahahaha.
actually this law is good tanggalin lang nila yung libel and authority pakielaman yung mga private ISP companies.
they should focus on online card theft, online identity theft and online prostitution. those are cyber crime for me
at nakakapag taka lang ambilis napasa nitong batas na to, bakit ? dahil sa personal issue ni sotto ? hanggang ngayon di nila maipasa yung anti political dynasty hahayaan pa nila tumakbo yang si jolo revilla ? hahaha
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Musikerochan on October 02, 2012, 03:59:28 PM
when expressing opinion, is it considered a crime? like when i say, supot si soto?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: IPGTR on October 02, 2012, 04:27:14 PM
Para sakin din, Libel clause lang ang kinokontra ko.
may mga nagsasabi tama lang dahil ang freedom ay may limit din at dapat matutong maging responsable ng mga netizens. may punto rin yun pero... ang Cyber Libel - up to 12 years in prison unlike sa ordinary libel na 3 or 4 lang yata(not sure exactly), tapos no need for warrants to search, block and bring down your website/blog, or even confiscate your hardware that you used to violate the anti cybercrime law. UN pa nga ang nagsabi na dapat ang Libel ay hindi na i- decriminalize na ang Libel e. tapos tayo pinalala pa.
Ang nakakainis dito, HIGH LIKELY politicians ang gagamit ng law na ito para ma silence yung mga critics nila sa internet, kitang kita naman natin kung paano nasira ang ilan sa mga politiko natin dahil sa hate campaign ng netizens (like Villar and Sotto), just in time pa sa coming elections pa, so if someone made a post against a candidate(like what netizens used to do), at pumatok ito to be significant enought para masira diskarte nung [avocado] politiko, that politician may file a case against that person, at pag panalo, his/her blog or website will be blocked, and he/she will be arrested. at pati narin ang mga nagshare at repost nito.
clearly violating our Bill of Rights
"Section 4. No law shall be passed abridging the freedom of speech, of expression, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances"
kaya kaning umaga nag leave ako sa work to go to Supreme Court, I was with the group of carlos celdran and pifa.ph, and other netizens, I did not directly marched with them but later joined in front of SC to listen to the their explanations, pero after an hour nung dumating na yung mga leftist groups, with their red flags, maoist caps, and images of noynoy na binaboy, umiwas at umalis nako. haha
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: IPGTR on October 02, 2012, 04:32:02 PM
"Collectively, the provisions of the law they want declared unconstitutional are the following:
-- Sec. 4 (a)(3), which includes data interference, defined as "the intentional or reckless alteration, damaging, deletion or deterioration of computer data, electronic document, or electronic data message, without right, including the introduction or transmission of viruses," in the list of cybercrime offenses;
-- Sec. 4(b)(3), which lists computer-related identity theft, defined as the intentional acquisition, use, misuse, transfer, possession, alteration or deletion of identifying information belonging to another, as one of computer-related offenses;
-- Sec. 4(c)(4), which criminalizes libel, not only on the internet, but also on "any other similar means which may be devised in the future;"
-- Sec. 5(a)(b), which identifies other offenses punishable under the law, such as: (a) Aiding or Abetting in the Commission of Cybercrime; and (b) Attempt in the Commission of Cybercrime;
-- Sec. 6, which raises by one degree higher the penalties provided for by the Revised Penal Code for all crimes committed through and with the use of information and communications;
-- Sec. 7, which provides that, apart from prosecution under the law, any person charged for the alleged offense covered will not be spared from violations of the Revised Penal Code and other special laws;
-- Sec. 12, which authorizes the real-time collection of traffic data;
-- Sec. 17, which authorizes service providers and law enforcement agencies to "completely destroy the computer data subject of a preservation and examination" order;
-- Sec. 19, which authorizes the DOJ to block access to computer data when such data "is prima facie found to be in violation of the provisions of this Act;" and
-- Sec. 20, which states that those who fail to comply with provisions of Chapter IV (Enforcement and Implementation), specifically orders from law enforcement agencies, shall face imprisonment of prision correctional (6 months and 1 day to 6 years) in its maximum period or a fine of P100,000 or both, for each noncompliance."
actually this law is good tanggalin lang nila yung libel and authority pakielaman yung mga private ISP companies.
they should focus on online card theft, online identity theft and online prostitution. those are cyber crime for me
at nakakapag taka lang ambilis napasa nitong batas na to, bakit ? dahil sa personal issue ni sotto ? hanggang ngayon di nila maipasa yung anti political dynasty hahayaan pa nila tumakbo yang si jolo revilla ? hahaha
ang bilis di ko namalayan law na pala to.
madaming mahahalagang issues at problema bansa basta pagdating sa election at mga walang kakwenta kwentang bagay ang bibilis nikla kumilos.
JOLO FOR SENATOR. IDOL TANGNA!!!
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: brighteyesbayside on October 02, 2012, 08:59:39 PM
hehe i thought only religion/philosophy threads were bloody nauseating. this legal stuff is just as messy.
with all this social media acticity, some image-building politician will act to look good by regressing the libel clause.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 02, 2012, 09:10:02 PM
some revision/clarification on the libel clause, more defined control and reason-to-access for the NBI, police and DOJ special unit pwede na siguro.
on the the cyberporn and prostitution side, i think there is a moral and economic aspect in this part. as per Good Guy Senator Guingona says, we can't legislate morality. cyberporn/prostitution also happens because there is an economics and money-making involved in it. it is easy to picture why it is close to impossible to control it.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 02, 2012, 09:28:43 PM
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Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: alvinilano on October 02, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
See you sa loob mga ka KOSA :-D EB sa Munti!
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: electronictokwa on October 02, 2012, 10:25:50 PM
at nakakapag taka lang ambilis napasa nitong batas na to, bakit ? dahil sa personal issue ni sotto ? hanggang ngayon di nila maipasa yung anti political dynasty hahayaan pa nila tumakbo yang si jolo revilla ? hahaha
Ginamitan ni Sotto ng Class S na kapangyarihan. Si PNOY di ata binasa ung buong bill before nag sign, nagmamadali baka may date pa.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 02, 2012, 10:28:44 PM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on October 02, 2012, 10:36:31 PM
so... i guess im gonna have to stop calling most of you guys fugly cock sucking faggots. :-(
actually pwede pa rin naman tayong mag gaguhan dito since halos acquainted na tayo sa isat isa.. it will only depend kung yung isang nabiro natin eh balat sibuyas at naoffend sa sinabi natin and nag decide to sue us for libel.. (yun eh kung sakop ng libel law ang pang aasar).
bottomline hanggat walang magrereklamo walang pwedeng gawin ang mga authorities..
at pag may nagreklamo naman eh ibabase pa nila kung sakop yun ng libel law or anything related to it at kung hindi mapatunayan na mapanirang puri yung ginawa nung inerereklamo eh dismiss yun.. areglo nalang.. isang case ng beer.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Dracule on October 03, 2012, 12:06:35 AM
pano kapag na hack account mo at sila nag post/comment/ share ng "libel" acts, ikaw huhulihin kasi Mukha mo yung andun di ba?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rockophoria on October 03, 2012, 12:16:45 AM
so... i guess im gonna have to stop calling most of you guys fugly cock sucking faggots. :-(
:(
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: psychotik on October 03, 2012, 12:53:53 AM
does this mean, nag hire din ang pinas ng mga tao para mag facebook twitter everyday para maghanap ng mga post? Would Zuckerberg react to this? are forums excluded to this law?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: burns red on October 03, 2012, 01:03:10 AM
does this mean, nag hire din ang pinas ng mga tao para mag facebook twitter everyday para maghanap ng mga post? Would Zuckerberg react to this? are forums excluded to this law?
pano kapag na hack account mo at sila nag post/comment/ share ng "libel" acts, ikaw huhulihin kasi Mukha mo yung andun di ba?
pano kaya mapapatunayan na nahack.. :)
BTT:
gaya nga ng sabi ko sa kabilang thread, pinasa tong batas para di matira ang mga "big time" di naman makikinabang ang masa o regular na tao dito sa tingin ko..
yung " patayan cases" nga pag mahirap o kaya average na tao(yung sakto lang) ang biktima, madalas matagal bago magkahatulan, pano pa kaya yung pangaasar ng "s*pot sa facebook! :lol:
pano yung mga "anti-epal" sites? makukulong ba sila? sabi sa inyo "bigtimes" lang ang makikinabang neto eh!
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: elfenliedagain on October 03, 2012, 03:17:09 AM
Noynoy.
Bayag.
Wala$
Just random words para di makasuhan.
BTW, yung mga taga GC toneparty na sa Bilibid oh :razz:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: electronictokwa on October 03, 2012, 05:32:53 AM
Hmmmm....panu pag naka Tor ka, and halimbawa ang IP mo eh showing somewhere from Europe, eto ba ang makikita ng mga mag trace kuno or mismong IP from your ISP?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dudematters on October 03, 2012, 06:00:33 AM
shet tong law na toh masyadong malawak ang sakop, dapat nagconcentrate lang toh sa cybersex crime and hacking.. WE WANT FREEEEDOM!!! :| \M/
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: electronictokwa on October 03, 2012, 06:39:12 AM
Cybercrime Law may put Philippines in more trouble with UN for curtailing press freedom:
Title: Cybercrime Law.
Post by: zhej on October 03, 2012, 06:49:27 AM
everybody knows it!
What's your point of view?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 03, 2012, 09:23:47 AM
Anonymous has something for the government on the first day of implementation of C.L.
http://president.gov.ph/
Few moments ago the same was seen on http://www.gov.ph. If they don't move on gearing up their servers, this will be a common sight on the next days ahead.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 03, 2012, 09:31:31 AM
mas malala pa nga ata to dun sa sinusulong dati ng US na SOPA
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: silverbolt1097 on October 03, 2012, 09:42:01 AM
Kaya sana po matuto na ang iba sa atin bumoto.
Vote wisely sa 2016.
:)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: idiotech22 on October 03, 2012, 09:44:36 AM
hangang oct 31 2012 pwede mag register to vote sa may 2013 midterm elections dun makakabawi tayo sa mga re-electionist na tatakbo!
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 03, 2012, 09:54:59 AM
problema rin kasi yung mga bayaran na voters e. di na nagiisip basta napangakuan ng pulitiko or nabigyan ng pera iboboto at iboboto nila yun. loyalty kumbaga.
nakakatawa lang isipin yung mga bumoto sa mga pulpol na politician noong nakaraang election, ngayong mali mali ang ginagawa ng binoto nilang pulitiko sila na yung galit na galit ngayon hahaha. suck it up! binoto nyo yan e
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 03, 2012, 10:10:37 AM
mahirap umasa sa madlang people lalo na ang karamihan ng mga registered voters na either di naman apektado ng batas (only 1.7 out of 100 Filipino has net access) o lumaki na walang pakialam sa mga nangyayari (apathy in short).
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: silverbolt1097 on October 03, 2012, 10:11:07 AM
Ay honga meron pa palang 2013 elections. So sana po bago tayo bumoto, pagisipan natin kung yung pangalan ng taong isusulat mo sa ballot ay talagang may magagawa sa bansa.
Sana maiwasan na ung ilan sa atin iboto si (insert name of candidate here) dahil:
-namatayan ng ama/ina na dating may posisyon sa gobyerno/administrasyon kasi "kawawa naman" -artista at sikat -namigay ng isang kilong bigas, sardinas, at instant pancit canton or noodles -mayaman -political dynasty siya/sila sa lugar nila -marami siyang "connections" -nanggaling siya sa mahirap na pamilya pero corrupt din nung naluklok sa puwesto
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Musikerochan on October 03, 2012, 10:22:30 AM
eh sino ba kasi ang salarin sa insertion ng libel clause sa CCL? walang iba kundi si _____________________________.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: idiotech22 on October 03, 2012, 10:31:51 AM
alm,ost 30 million ang facebook users sa pinas at around 9 million daw sa twitter according sa report kagabi sa jessica soho report, most of them will use the internet to campaign it has more audience and more filipinos now have smartphones so campaign money wise it's cheap malawak pa coverage. kita mo nga si obama may campaign poster sa davao eh lol
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Uber_daniel on October 03, 2012, 10:35:45 AM
problema rin kasi yung mga bayaran na voters e. di na nagiisip basta napangakuan ng pulitiko or nabigyan ng pera iboboto at iboboto nila yun. loyalty kumbaga.
nakakatawa lang isipin yung mga bumoto sa mga pulpol na politician noong nakaraang election, ngayong mali mali ang ginagawa ng binoto nilang pulitiko sila na yung galit na galit ngayon hahaha. suck it up! binoto nyo yan e
Di lang naman pagbabayad sa mga voters ang ginagawa nila eh may iba pa silang modus na di alam ng maraming botante para manalo. Lalo na kung kasalukuyan kang nakaupo. Naku libel eto. :lol:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 03, 2012, 10:43:44 AM
see you all in jail waahahhaa kagagawan ito ni S_T_O
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: silverbolt1097 on October 03, 2012, 10:58:53 AM
^ Hahaha
Kitakits, kosa...
BTT na uli
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: idiotech22 on October 03, 2012, 11:14:10 AM
ang sarcasm ba sakop nito?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: ME-30maniac on October 03, 2012, 11:54:35 AM
paano pala yan. kaylangan kong mag-download ng new songs para sa kabanda kong ikakasal, para makapa namin agad. ngayon hindi ko na magagawa.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: zeph on October 03, 2012, 12:07:04 PM
in this case we can go anonymous on the web
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law.
Post by: Riff_6603 on October 03, 2012, 12:19:13 PM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Rage Against The Machine on October 03, 2012, 02:52:15 PM
humanda sila satin mga Pilipino, may pa democracy democracy pang nalalaman eh, di nila kaya hackers natin, satin nanggaling ang I LOVE YOU VIRUS, kung hindi tayo pinabayaan ng gobyerno, mas malupit pa siguro tayo sa bansang JAPAN alam kong alam ng lahat yan
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 03, 2012, 02:54:31 PM
kaya hindi na ako bumoboto...wala akong makitang matinong kandidato...
Palagi kong mababasa o naririnig sa kung saan saan "Wala kang karapatang mag reklamo sa gobyerno kung hindi ka bomoboto" E p*tcha paano ka nga naman boboto kung puro istupido lahat ng kakandidato??? :eek:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 03, 2012, 08:27:23 PM
hindi ba talaga sila pwede gumawa ng batas na lagyan ng qualifications ang pag takbo ? like may at least college degree at board passer related to the position ?
at dapat kapag may kamag anak na currently naka upo, yung tatakbo na kamag anak eh dapat mas mataas ang itatakbo sa current na naka upo, let's say in the case of senator revilla, para maka takbo dapat yung gungong niyang anak dapat mas mataas sa senator ang itakbo niya, in that case para manalo man siya eh ibig sabihin qualified talaga siya or for sure matatalo talaga siya kung tatakbo siyang vice president o presidente at kung manalo man siya no choice na yung senator bong revilla kundi tumakbong presidente at matalo o wag na tumakbo hanggat naka upo yung anak niya
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: ierofan on October 03, 2012, 11:11:48 PM
hindi ba talaga sila pwede gumawa ng batas na lagyan ng qualifications ang pag takbo ? like may at least college degree at board passer related to the position ?
at dapat kapag may kamag anak na currently naka upo, yung tatakbo na kamag anak eh dapat mas mataas ang itatakbo sa current na naka upo, let's say in the case of senator revilla, para maka takbo dapat yung gungong niyang anak dapat mas mataas sa senator ang itakbo niya, in that case para manalo man siya eh ibig sabihin qualified talaga siya or for sure matatalo talaga siya kung tatakbo siyang vice president o presidente at kung manalo man siya no choice na yung senator bong revilla kundi tumakbong presidente at matalo o wag na tumakbo hanggat naka upo yung anak niya
Meron na, kaya lang, "AT LEAST" high school ang natapos.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 03, 2012, 11:26:35 PM
Kung lalabag kayo sa Cybercrime law..
huhuliin kayo ng mga Cyberpolice, merun silang Cyberwarrant, then kakasuhan kayo ng Cyberlibel,.. Lilitisin kayo sa Cybercourt sa gitna ng Cyberjudge, dapat merun kayong Cyberlawyer na magtatanggol sa inyo sa mga Cyberprosecutor .. then kapag sinabi ng Cyberhonor ng"Cyberguilty"kayo,. kulong kayo sa Cyberjail, kasama nyo mga Cyberkosa nyo.. gagawa kayo ng Cybergang nyo sa loob ng Cyberehas..
lahat ng yang mangyayare lang sa Cyberspace..
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rickbig41 on October 03, 2012, 11:31:31 PM
huhuliin kayo ng mga Cyberpolice, merun silang Cyberwarrant, then kakasuhan kayo ng Cyberlibel,.. Lilitisin kayo sa Cybercourt sa gitna ng Cyberjudge, dapat merun kayong Cyberlawyer na magtatanggol sa inyo sa mga Cyberprosecutor .. then kapag sinabi ng Cyberhonor ng"Cyberguilty"kayo,. kulong kayo sa Cyberjail, kasama nyo mga Cyberkosa nyo.. gagawa kayo ng Cybergang nyo sa loob ng Cyberehas..
lahat ng yang mangyayare lang sa Cyberspace..
madaming pulis pangkalawakan ang lulutang...hahahaha..joke... >:D
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 03, 2012, 11:39:05 PM
nyahahahaha... bigla ba yan lumilitaw sa harap ng computer pag nakita niyang may problema post mo? taz arrest agad? hehehehhe...
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 04, 2012, 12:03:26 AM
ok. serious answer. kung marunong mag-ingat, mag-back-up, mag-network at iba pa ang mga operator na alam nila na delikado ang content nila, kahit na anong batas isulat mahihirapan pa rin sila mag-control. For example, See wikileaks number one yan. Piratebay, kaka-takedown lang servers sa europe last week pero back on track uli at mukhang sponsored pa dito sa Pilipinas yung new site. same goes for hackers, malakas ang loob nila kasi alam nila kung paano umikot online. 8-)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: rickbig41 on October 04, 2012, 12:19:54 AM
ok. serious answer. kung marunong mag-ingat, mag-back-up, mag-network at iba pa ang mga operator na alam nila na delikado ang content nila, kahit na anong batas isulat mahihirapan pa rin sila mag-control. For example, See wikileaks number one yan. Piratebay, kaka-takedown lang servers sa europe last week pero back on track uli at mukhang sponsored pa dito sa Pilipinas yung new site. same goes for hackers, malakas ang loob nila kasi alam nila kung paano umikot online. 8-)
I agree with you sir... btjunkie ganun din, pero di na sila nakabalik, Demonoid, d pa sure na babalik, pero tingin ko lilitaw na lng yan ulit yang mga yan pag ok na naman...they have their back up, if ma observe niyo, pag nag resume ang mga file sharing sites na mahusay ang pag kaback up, same files pa rin naman makukuha mo... ang iba naman naka link sa ibang site, kaya kahit wala na sila, buhay pa ang file...
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: The_Grunge on October 04, 2012, 01:06:40 AM
Itinatag ni Cory Aquino Ang Democracy, Si Ninoy Nag Settle ng FREEDOM, tapos ngayon dina down ni PNOY A.K.A ANNOYING NOYNOYING ang DEMOCRACY at FREEDOM? try to watch this to see the truth between the AQUINO and COJUANGCO Sins
kung hindi dahil satin, hindi siya magiging presidente, kaya sa susunod na halalan wag na natin siya iboto pang muli, dahilan sa puro kapalpakan. <_<
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Endshiftresign! on October 04, 2012, 01:27:34 AM
huhuliin kayo ng mga Cyberpolice, merun silang Cyberwarrant, then kakasuhan kayo ng Cyberlibel,.. Lilitisin kayo sa Cybercourt sa gitna ng Cyberjudge, dapat merun kayong Cyberlawyer na magtatanggol sa inyo sa mga Cyberprosecutor .. then kapag sinabi ng Cyberhonor ng"Cyberguilty"kayo,. kulong kayo sa Cyberjail, kasama nyo mga Cyberkosa nyo.. gagawa kayo ng Cybergang nyo sa loob ng Cyberehas..
lahat ng yang mangyayare lang sa Cyberspace..
basta wag nyong ihulog ang Cybersabon pag magkasama kayo sa Cyberselda. :lol:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dreamhaus09 on October 04, 2012, 01:48:15 AM
Baka meron ding Cyber-Bahala na at Cyber-Sputnik sa Cyber City Jail? :roll:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: brighteyesbayside on October 04, 2012, 02:02:53 AM
actually pwede pa rin naman tayong mag gaguhan dito since halos acquainted na tayo sa isat isa.. it will only depend kung yung isang nabiro natin eh balat sibuyas at naoffend sa sinabi natin and nag decide to sue us for libel.. (yun eh kung sakop ng libel law ang pang aasar).
bottomline hanggat walang magrereklamo walang pwedeng gawin ang mga authorities..
at pag may nagreklamo naman eh ibabase pa nila kung sakop yun ng libel law or anything related to it at kung hindi mapatunayan na mapanirang puri yung ginawa nung inerereklamo eh dismiss yun.. areglo nalang.. isang case ng beer.
heheh i remember that closed thread before by kurtcobainer and the heavily-cobain influenced kid.
libel libel?
hahaha
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law.
Post by: Santo Muerte on October 04, 2012, 03:00:03 AM
It's stupid & unenforceable.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: kaiowas on October 04, 2012, 03:13:48 AM
sayang nanaman ang pera ng pilipinas! daming pwedeng unahin jan na masmakakatulong sa ating bansa! tsk tsk
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: ermonski on October 04, 2012, 03:23:17 AM
isang malaking katang*han at kabobohan ang batas na ito.
stup1d 1di0ts
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dudematters on October 04, 2012, 09:30:01 AM
mga sur saklaw ba ng law na toh ang free downloads online? like mp3's and torrents??
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: ierofan on October 04, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
mga sur saklaw ba ng law na toh ang free downloads online? like mp3's and torrents??
Yep. Pero I doubt na maraming mahuli. Yung Optical media board nga, lang nagawa, yan pa kaya.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jellogz on October 04, 2012, 10:24:46 AM
Nakakalunkot makita yung mga nakikisali/sawsaw sa issue na to lalo na sa FB. Halata namang hindi man lang binasa muna yung artikulo ng batas na to at kung ano anong satsat ang pinagkakalat sa FB.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: skunkyfunk on October 04, 2012, 10:33:24 AM
Ang bilis mag press release pero they take AGES para paghuli ang mga ACTUAL criminals...
pwe! :lol:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on October 04, 2012, 11:04:01 AM
Joke! hahaha patawa di nga nila mahuli yung mga cybersex den eh mga hackers pa baka mga criminal lang na pinakawalan nila kunyari mga hackers
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 04, 2012, 11:13:33 AM
hahah sabi sa makati daw natrace. baliw sila e magkakahiwalay yun malamang.
nireport pa nila kung pano nila inintercept yung paghack by shuting down the website. ibroadcast daw ba haha yari sila gagawa yan ng bagong way pano mapasok yung site nila
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: fretboard on October 04, 2012, 11:14:51 AM
walang clause dun regarding complaint!!! gaya nung martial law ni marcos, pwede ka damputin kahit walang nagfile ng case against the offender :-o
maganda naman yung batas ng cybercrime law e, ang inuurat lang talaga ng nakararami e yung libel na isiningit at yun ngang concern na walang clause na naka indicate regarding filing the case first before the warrant.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Musikerochan on October 04, 2012, 11:31:30 AM
e bakit ba pumayag tong mga senador na to na isingit yung clause?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: fretboard on October 04, 2012, 11:39:15 AM
SENATORS MOVE TO CHANGE CYBERCRIME LAW Two senators move a step closer to changing the controversial Cybercrime Prevention Act. Sen.Teofisto Guingona III files a petition before the Supreme Court seeking to void provisions he says infringe on the freedom of speech. Guingona was the lone dissenter of the bill in the Senate. Sen. Francis Escudero says he did not notice the online libel provision and wants to remove the imposition of criminal liability.
FRANCIS ESCUDERO, PHILIPPINE SENATOR: Nakalusot sa amin iyon. Hindi ko nakita iyon nung kami ay bumoto at pumirma sa committee report...Ayoko magbigay ng anumang dahilan o motibo aaminin ko na lang siguro ang aming pagkukulang, personally, nakalusot sa amin iyon
boto ka pa rin sir, para mawala na ang mga politicians natin na gumawa ng cybercrime at ng sa ganun di na makaulit... >:D sige ka pag di ka bomoto, malay mo manalo sila sa paraang malupit... :money:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: cameltoe on October 04, 2012, 05:14:26 PM
mas dumali nga yung pagpili ng mga iboboto ng tao heheehe...
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: iamweird on October 04, 2012, 05:30:11 PM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: CeL1916 on October 04, 2012, 10:11:58 PM
alam ko na ipunin natin lahat ng tatakbo na senador tapos ilagay sa isang isla parang hunger games or battle royal or 1984 or runningman.. wala ng botohan! :lol:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: electronictokwa on October 04, 2012, 10:35:15 PM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: wiccan8888 on October 05, 2012, 01:32:50 PM
may social survey kaya na nagtry na icheck kung ilang pilipino ang natutuwa dito sa bagong republic act na to? kasi seriously parang iilan lang ang may trip nito, parang yung mga authors lang din at mga malalapit sa kanila.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dothack on October 05, 2012, 05:51:06 PM
dapat bago nyo ikulong ung mga hacker pasalamatan nyo muna! dahil kundi dahil sa mga hacker na nanghack ng defense system computer ng china ndi nyo malalaman na nagttesting ng haarp ang china sa pinas! ang nakakapagtaka bakit may access na kaagad ang nbi sa mga celphone logs? ndi na ba kailangan ng court order? hmmm...
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 05, 2012, 06:52:58 PM
^ kung pagbabasehan ang C.L. kahit walang court order o warrant may power na ang NBI/DOJ na kumuha ng data logs, no exception aside. sakop pati cellphones dun. See section 12. Pero alam ko matagal na nilang ginagawa yan since it's a part of the 'investigation' part.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: bugoy on October 05, 2012, 11:58:39 PM
diba pwede gawan ng entrance exam yung mga tumatakbong politiko bago makatakbo kailangan pumasa yung kasing level ng board exam ng mga lawyer? at kailangan may psycho exam din parang mga normal na empleyado ? at dapat in public at may witness ?
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: RedWinG on October 06, 2012, 02:35:53 AM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: yahxx2 on October 06, 2012, 04:06:51 AM
Plagiarism hindi naiintindihan, separation of church from state tapos ayaw mabatikos sa internet.. ayaw aminin yung pagkakamali nya.. NAG POWER TRIP.. gumawa ng paraan tapos tinawag na tama.. ayun libel ang pinasok sa cyber crime law.. kulong ka 12yrs!.. patas na batas ba?.. hindi!
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: globalwarmthings on October 06, 2012, 06:31:58 AM
Plagiarism hindi naiintindihan, separation of church from state tapos ayaw mabatikos sa internet.. ayaw aminin yung pagkakamali nya.. NAG POWER TRIP.. gumawa ng paraan tapos tinawag na tama.. ayun libel ang pinasok sa cyber crime law.. kulong ka 12yrs!.. patas na batas ba?.. hindi!
tapos yun mga seryoso talaga na krimen (name almost any crime) hinde proportionate ang punishment to crime ratio :cry: yung pamangkin ko nga nasagsaan (thankfully nothing permanent physically happened) ng a-hole driver siya pa yun arrogante, walang nangyari! the driver got away scott free :cry: isa pa incident, may kinasuhan ako estafa, na shock ako ng matapos na at lahat ang kaso at sa hinaba ng proseso, napakaliit lang ng binayaran na penalties :cry: kaya andami malakas ang loob mang swindle ng pera :cry:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: kurtseth on October 06, 2012, 07:15:57 AM
ive seen other websites change thier avatars to just a plain black icon as a sign of protest towards the recent law that was passed (failure to be honest)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dothack on October 06, 2012, 11:13:52 AM
yup...still...pero syempre kakaunti na lang na dadownload ngayon kasi madami dami ng ibang torrent site sa ibang bansa ang pinasara ng gobyerno nila...pero oks lang..at natapos ko yung mga dinadownload ko bago nasara yung site na dinadownloadan ko...hehehehhe :-D :-D :-D :-D >:D
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dreamhaus09 on October 07, 2012, 01:13:47 PM
Dapat hindi nila pagbawal yung torrent. hindi naman kasi masama yung mismong "torrent" e. depende na lang sa gumagamit. Parang Rugby (solvent) yan e. nasasayo kung paano mo gagamitin ng tama. :-D tsaka kung ayaw talaga nila sa Piracy. edi unahin nila yung mga nag titinda ng mga DVD sa bangketa. Dito sa tandang sora as in tapat lang ng Pulis station yung mga nag titinda ng Pirated DVDs.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on October 07, 2012, 01:22:28 PM
^^ :)
at malapit na magsimula ang Season 3 ng TWD.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on October 07, 2012, 01:33:56 PM
bumili ako ng pirated dvd nyan sabi saken ay season 1 at season 2 daw un nung sinalang ko sa player ang walang hiya Episode 1 and 2 lang pala hahaha sayang 80
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: lil.drummerboy on October 07, 2012, 11:22:49 PM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on October 08, 2012, 09:43:33 AM
May nasampolan na (http://imageshack.us/a/img259/3180/54633042814304057790754.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/54633042814304057790754.jpg/)
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jellogz on October 08, 2012, 11:10:30 AM
^ I dont think ginamit ang RA 10175 dito sa issue na to
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: Santo Muerte on October 09, 2012, 02:08:40 AM
ive seen other websites change thier avatars to just a plain black icon as a sign of protest towards the recent law that was passed (failure to be honest)
You know the best way for people to defy this law is not by changing their avatars to black. They need to replace it with the sickest, most disturbing porn/gore that's available on the web. Do it on your Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, etc. profiles. THAT is what people need to do.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: queso_ on October 09, 2012, 04:58:20 AM
natatakot na akong mag download hehehe. ang dami ko pa namang gustong panoorin. :-(
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: zidangeles on October 09, 2012, 06:58:58 AM
natatakot na akong mag download hehehe. ang dami ko pa namang gustong panoorin. :-(
Like Nike says, "Just do it!" haha :razz:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: jamming_papu on October 09, 2012, 07:08:01 AM
if they ever find a way to make downloads stop for good, i think we should make the best out of it while it is still here :cool:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: zidangeles on October 09, 2012, 07:26:36 AM
Well, actually in some point, I agree din naman sa mga piracy dahil this is the major cause why filipino music industry today became so cheap. Yung productivity bumababa because nalulugi sa mga piracy. And we musicians someday might have also our own albums at ayaw din natin siguradong ma-pirated kung magiging source of income din natin sa buhay, diba?
Ang gusto ko lang na side sa mga torrents and file sharing is yung mga music, movies, etc. na hindi available or very hard to find sa market natin ngayon lalo na yung mga wala masyadong access sa online stores or nasa mga areas na malalayo sa mga stores na may availability ng mga items na gusto or kailanganin natin.
Kaya somehow it's really something complicated kung saan ka kakampi eh :eek:
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: renz13 on October 09, 2012, 07:52:51 AM
di lang ako agree dun sa Sec 12 at maybe dun sa libel :-) at dahil dun sa section 15 at 17 daily na ang backup ng PC ko para handa kung anu man ang mangyari :-D
pano ang KickAssTorrents .ph and domain nila :-D
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: PrayToYourGodz on October 09, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
ayan sa dila na nila nanggagaling kung bakit http://opinion.inquirer.net/38276/malacanang-on-cybercrime-and-foi-an-ideological-connection
at may nabasa din ako sa isang article kaya mabilis naipasa yung bill kasi PORK-ILO ang presyo
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: kurtcobainer on October 09, 2012, 11:46:49 AM
ok. after what is done, it is obvious that security and peace in cyberspace starts with everyone who's using it. though it really sucks to get your site/account hacked, your website blocked by the government and being bullied by the troll masses, thinking alot before bringing something on the internet is a necessity that avoids it. though there is some part of C.L. that I agree with and should be implemented, i think this is better in general for every Filipino netizens.
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: heyman on October 09, 2012, 08:22:40 PM
step NO, step YES!!! parang laro lang ah. mag-isip isip naman muna at pag-aralan rin muna sana ng mga pulitikong to. atras abante nangyayari e. good thing nakinig rin ang SC sa hinaing ng nakakarami. hindi dahil gusto ng presidente e ayun na dapat
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: robertshanepascual on October 10, 2012, 08:59:45 AM
brickgame lang ata kasi yung alam gamitin nung mga nakaiasip nung batas na un e hahahaha!
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: lil.drummerboy on October 10, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
Title: Re: Cybercrime Law
Post by: dharzfreeman on October 13, 2012, 03:49:49 PM