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Offline Boxedking

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #150 on: April 09, 2015, 08:19:17 PM »
Naisip ko lang, we can share presets here like preset in Addictive Drums or kahit cab impulses.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #151 on: April 09, 2015, 11:25:09 PM »
^^
I want your effects on your drums :) hahaha
Direct ba sa addictive drums un or sa track mo nilalagay effects?

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« Reply #152 on: April 10, 2015, 08:57:39 AM »
para sa mga nagsisimula, sobrang helpful mixing technique ng LCR, especially in guitar. full left and right for double tracked rhythm guitars, then lead sa gitna, or for those tracks na two guitar style thing na hindi unison, ang ganda ng LCR.

Just have your drums panned normally, bass and vocals in the middle, then rhythm guitars left and right, tapos lead guitar sa gitna. Like the other tips talagang kailangan ibahin yung EQ  ng guitars para kumapal yung tunog at mag stand out at hindi magkaroon ng phaser effect. Kung naka amp sim naman ok yung magkaibang amp at cab combo ang gamitin para mas madali yung separation ng sound.

Sa reverb naman usually hindi na ako naglalagay sa double tracked na guitars kasi nakakasakop na masyado sa sonic space, sa lead na lang ako bumabawi. Ang magic ng reverb hindi nasa lakas ng effect, kundi dun sa tamang setting ng early reflections at yung delay plugin na isasaksak mo before the verb. pag zero ang early reflection mo tapos mataas ang wetness tunog karaoke lang yan.

Add din ako ng impulses para sa reverb, ito yung ginagamit ko http://www.voxengo.com/impulses/ kunin nyo yung pack 3, maganda yung Right Glass Triangle pang acoustic at pop vocals. Yung Small Drum Room impulse maganda ilagay sa drum machine track for that pop rock drum sound (think ultra processed drums na tunog sampled) before reverb and EQ.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #153 on: April 10, 2015, 10:50:11 AM »
^^

Since marami ang nasa gitna. Vocals, lead, bass, nilalagyan mo pa ba ng stereo effects?

How about keyboard in your opinion?

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« Reply #154 on: April 10, 2015, 12:29:11 PM »
^^

Since marami ang nasa gitna. Vocals, lead, bass, nilalagyan mo pa ba ng stereo effects?

How about keyboard in your opinion?

Yung bass personally gusto ko sit back sa mix, ka-volume ng kick. sa lead guitar, tamang reverb lang para may konting angat at space. sa vocals personally mahilig ako sa time delay effects, so stereo yan, depende sa effect kung ilang tap at kung saan babagsak. Sa keys, di ako nagkkeys kaya di ako marunong magmix, though kung stereo yung source, as is, pero kung mono, up to 60% on one side tapos yung delay (if any, usually for synths) sa opposite side.

Check nyo yung Masilungan cover sa sig ko, pangit yung performance, pero yun na yung pinaka ok na mix ko as far as LCR is concerned.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #155 on: April 10, 2015, 02:12:38 PM »
^^
I want your effects on your drums :) hahaha
Direct ba sa addictive drums un or sa track mo nilalagay effects?
It's a modified preset within AD2. Morgan Rose inspired preset that I came up with. Yun ang lamang ng AD2 sa unang version, namumutiktik sa dami ng presets na pwede pa paglaruan at baguhin.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #156 on: April 13, 2015, 03:29:22 PM »
Anybody here having latency issues sa Amplitube 3? It's so unresponsive, There is a noticeable lag sa pick attack, kahit anong adjust ko sa milliseconds ganun parin, I dig the ''fat and life-like'' sound of it naman, SAYANG, bearable siya sa clean and dirt tones, pero pag may OD/Distortion, semplang na  :-( .......Ok naman yung mga ibang guitar programs.

I'm also experiencing latency issues with Amplitube 3 via Line 6 GX. What I do na lang is use POD Farm (Zero Latency) to monitor my sound and record the dry signal. I then re-amp using Amplitube 3 or any other VST.

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #157 on: April 13, 2015, 09:36:47 PM »
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #158 on: April 14, 2015, 01:48:59 AM »
may naka try na ba ng Zoom G9.2tt for recording? I mean.. yung feature mismo ng Zoom G9.2tt na recording via USB?  ^-^
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #159 on: April 14, 2015, 01:24:01 PM »
Guys QUESTION here:

I'm in the process of  creating / writing a Groove / Thrash metal tune, How do you ''thicken'' a guitar sound? , kase ang ginagawa ko lang

Guitar Input 1 (stereo) Pan 75 percent to the right  using a 4 x12 Rectifier
Guitar input 2 (stereo) Pan  75 percent to the left using a  Van 51 (EVH) amp model

Or do you have other methods? like adding TWO or more guitar  tracks for that menacing wall of guitar sound? I want to have as much meat as possible...Thanks!

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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #160 on: April 14, 2015, 02:03:05 PM »
Guys QUESTION here:

I'm in the process of  creating / writing a Groove / Thrash metal tune, How do you ''thicken'' a guitar sound? , kase ang ginagawa ko lang

Guitar Input 1 (stereo) Pan 75 percent to the right  using a 4 x12 Rectifier
Guitar input 2 (stereo) Pan  75 percent to the left using a  Van 51 (EVH) amp model

Or do you have other methods? like adding TWO or more guitar  tracks for that menacing wall of guitar sound? I want to have as much meat as possible...Thanks!
One is post-EQ. Another way is quad-tracking (1 track 100% panned left, 1 track 70% panned left, 1 track panned 100% right, 1 track panned 70% right). EQ those tracks panned 70% differently from the 100% panned with 100% tracks having the top-end freq and the bottom end/mids for the 70% tracks.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #161 on: April 14, 2015, 02:40:23 PM »
^ Oh thanks a lot sir!  :)

Is copy-pasting guitar tracks ok? Or do I have to play them separately to create a fuller sound?

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« Reply #162 on: April 14, 2015, 02:45:18 PM »
^ Oh thanks a lot sir!  :)

Is copy-pasting guitar tracks ok? Or do I have to play them separately to create a fuller sound?
I advise not to do that. Record a different take for each track.
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« Reply #163 on: April 14, 2015, 02:48:13 PM »
^ Oh thanks a lot sir!  :)

Is copy-pasting guitar tracks ok? Or do I have to play them separately to create a fuller sound?

track them again. pag copy paste magkakaroon ng comb filter effect, so magbabawasan pa yung sound mo kaysa madagdagan. You can get away with copy paste if you find the right delay amount but it will sound like you put a mild phaser on everything. Real double tracking has a superior result.
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« Reply #164 on: April 14, 2015, 09:54:27 PM »
natutunan ko layering of tracks, panning, normalization.
mas naintindihan ko na rin gamitin vsts pero di ko pa masyadong ginagamit.

guitar>pedalboard>interface
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« Reply #165 on: April 14, 2015, 11:03:44 PM »
Pag Acoustic and vocals langs how do you guys mix? Track guitar twice pan left and right tapos vocal on the middle? Ganun sakin eh, baka mas may ok na method. :-D
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« Reply #166 on: April 15, 2015, 10:59:00 AM »
Pag Acoustic and vocals langs how do you guys mix? Track guitar twice pan left and right tapos vocal on the middle? Ganun sakin eh, baka mas may ok na method. :-D

ako full left and right guitars, pero walang parehong linya/chord shape. kunwari sa isang bar yung left naka barre G yung sa kanan naka open G, something like that. pag plucking naman yung isa based sa standard open chord shape, yung isa sa upper frets, or parang lead line/riff. vocal sa middle, with reverb and konting delay. naglalagay din ako ng bass kasi boomy yung gitara ko sa low end, so naka highpass yung gitara tapos bawi sa bass. ganun ginawa ko sa Gravity dun sa sig ko  :)
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #167 on: April 15, 2015, 12:43:50 PM »
ako full left and right guitars, pero walang parehong linya/chord shape. kunwari sa isang bar yung left naka barre G yung sa kanan naka open G, something like that. pag plucking naman yung isa based sa standard open chord shape, yung isa sa upper frets, or parang lead line/riff. vocal sa middle, with reverb and konting delay. naglalagay din ako ng bass kasi boomy yung gitara ko sa low end, so naka highpass yung gitara tapos bawi sa bass. ganun ginawa ko sa Gravity dun sa sig ko  :)

Okay salamat!  :-D Subukan ko yang ganyan.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #168 on: April 15, 2015, 08:52:27 PM »
sir, inquire lang ako dit, i used before adobe 1.5 for recording, but na stop, and want to start again, ano ba pwedeng gamitin na app, ang gamit ko lang for now laptop pc, aside sa audacity, baka may ma recommend kayo na mas madaling apps for recording na downloadable, thanks a lot!
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« Reply #169 on: April 15, 2015, 09:31:01 PM »
sir, inquire lang ako dit, i used before adobe 1.5 for recording, but na stop, and want to start again, ano ba pwedeng gamitin na app, ang gamit ko lang for now laptop pc, aside sa audacity, baka may ma recommend kayo na mas madaling apps for recording na downloadable, thanks a lot!
I recommend Reaper. Matipid pa gumamit ng resources ng system mo.
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Re: Home Recording (Bedroom Players)
« Reply #170 on: April 15, 2015, 10:16:13 PM »
reaper? yan name ng app sir?it will do in a laptop?


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« Reply #171 on: April 15, 2015, 10:42:13 PM »
Yep. It's not really an app but more like a recording software (correct me if I'm wrong). You can try searching it in YouTube for some demos.
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« Reply #172 on: April 16, 2015, 06:09:23 AM »
VST Plugins: EZ Drummer
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DAW: Adobe Audition 1.5 (sobrang luma pero it works for me), sometimes Reaper gamit ko (nainpluwensyahan ni Boxedking hahaha!)
Audio Interface: M Audio Fast Track Pro
Usual na signal flow ko is guitar>fx>mixer>interface>DAW. I'm using Guitar Rig 4 for my amp sim

bro ba't pinadaan mo pa sa mixer bago interface? pwede naman mag mix sa DAW di ba?

mag install na dapat ako ng amplitube3 nabasa ko lang yung latency issues. Try ko yang guitar rig  :)

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« Reply #173 on: April 16, 2015, 08:36:05 AM »
bro ba't pinadaan mo pa sa mixer bago interface? pwede naman mag mix sa DAW di ba?

mag install na dapat ako ng amplitube3 nabasa ko lang yung latency issues. Try ko yang guitar rig  :)

FWIW I never really had latency issues with Amplitube 3, although I never track with reverb plugins on.

tsaka oo nga no, @arjhay, why not straight to the interface?
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« Reply #174 on: April 16, 2015, 08:57:48 AM »
FWIW I never really had latency issues with Amplitube 3, although I never track with reverb plugins on.

tsaka oo nga no, @arjhay, why not straight to the interface?

ah ok thanks,
meron na ko both guitar rig and amplitube, try ko muna install yung amplitube (saw demos on youtube, mas ok compare sa guitar rig).
sa ngayon kasi straight pedalboard to interface, no fx plugins. so far ok naman, gusto ko lang try with amp sims para mas ok  :)