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Re: all about SNARE DRUMS thread
« Reply #225 on: August 04, 2007, 04:32:55 AM »
it really depends on what u want fron a snare.... s genre ng tugtugan nyo those two snares are a good choice... of course there are lots of other choices, but between those two...honestly id go for the melody master.  its not just about the name on it, its about the hardware, the material and craftsmanship.  im a proud owner of tama starclassic maple...hell yeah id say its one kick ass snare u can have!!!  from the hoops, tension rods, throw off, the shell (material, craftsmanship and design), tuning possibilities and ultimately the sound...10 years of playing but never heard that from any other snare so far!  what a crack! really cuts through! but not irritating.  just the right frequencies to please the drummer and other guys on stage.  whats more, habang binibira, lalong gumaganda tunog, more pa, never ever goes out of tune!  and tuning is so easy because of its precision cast hoops and quality tension lugs!  regular starclassics and the mike portnoy signature has a lots of things in common, except for the throw-off which has three settings.  mine is fitted with evans G1 coated on top and evans resonant in bottom, plus puresound snare wires.  my throw off is set loose, so smooth when u put it in "on" position u could hardly feel any tension during switching.  but amazingly the snare  wire lays down snug across the head and no unwanted buzz when u give it a tap, just the wire snapping prcisely on the head...the snare bed is so perfect!!!  well, thats about it.  just wanted to share my point of view.  just hope ull find the right snare for you!  ROCK N ROLL!!!
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Re: all about SNARE DRUMS thread
« Reply #226 on: August 04, 2007, 04:51:00 AM »
I can feel you, bro crisdrums!  I'm also a proud owner and user of a Tama Starclassic snare drum.  Nasabi mo na lahat!  It's an excellent snare drum.  You can visit my blogsite if you want to see some pics of my Starclassic snare.

Cheers to that!  8-)



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Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #227 on: August 07, 2007, 11:03:57 PM »
hey guys kuha lang ako ng infos sa inyo about this 3 snares
(lalo na po dun sa mga nakagamit na netong mga to)
because im planning to get one of those.

pref sound is:
- loud
- ung prang wlang metal sound prang "tanggg" (di ko alm ung term for this one sorry)
or depende to sa tuning and heads?

please post some helpful infos based on your own experice not the links for this snares
what can you say about this 3?

-thanks in advance!-
« Last Edit: August 08, 2007, 03:23:37 AM by greysky »
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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #228 on: August 07, 2007, 11:11:46 PM »
siyempre jj snare na :lol:

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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #229 on: August 07, 2007, 11:27:35 PM »
better wait for the mapex black panther snares to arrive so you can have more options..


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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #230 on: August 07, 2007, 11:34:17 PM »
hindi ako masyado maselan pagdating sa mga snares bro.. pero kung ako ang tatanungin, gusto ko yung Joey jordison.. :lol: overtone po ata yung tinutukoy niyo po..correct me nalang po if i were wrong sa term..salamat.. :-)
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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #231 on: August 07, 2007, 11:40:55 PM »
better wait for the mapex black panther snares to arrive so you can have more options..
hi vannesa! :grin:

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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #232 on: August 08, 2007, 12:07:20 AM »
You can't go wrong with any of the snares you've mentioned...

with regards to tuning, As long as it sounds good to you, then it's in tune... To each his own personal tastes, kumbaga...
All of them sound loud when hit hard and when hit with the right technique...

I personally own 2 of the 3 snares you've enumerated, and I've tried the Vinnie Paul of a friend of mine...

Of the three, I'm find my 14" x 6.5" Gretsch Renown Maple to be the most versatile... I can make it sound like a piccolo... I can make it sound deep an warm... Tune it tight, and it gives just the right amount of 'crack'...

If you don't want the 'metallic overtones', then the Jordison is not for you, since it's a 13" x 6.5" steel snare... Though the Jordison is a very good snare, I kinda find it Jordison overrated... You have to tune it just right to get rid of the 'metallic overtones'.

With regards to the Vinnie Paul, aside from the Snake Skin wrap, there is nothing else special with this snare. LOUD - yes... very... COOLNESS FACTOR - definitely... SOUND - nothing really out of the ordinary... it's basically a 14" x 8" 6ply maple snare...




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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #233 on: August 08, 2007, 12:26:09 AM »
totoo po bang mas maraming ply mas malakas? (dont base on how you hit the snare)
and para saan po ba ung mas makapal na snare?
i mean the depth
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« Reply #234 on: August 08, 2007, 12:42:16 AM »
siyempre jj snare na :lol:

I'm asking about the infos sir
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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #235 on: August 08, 2007, 12:57:46 AM »
This is from drumdojo.com... Cut n Paste nalang a... medyo inaantok na ako e...

Thick or thin?

The density of the shell has a significant impact on the sound of a drum.

A very thick drum will, in relative terms, hardly resonate at all and will tend to project a clear bright version of the head-tone imparting few of its own qualities into the sound, this is because the vibrations from striking are reflected by the shell more than they are absorbed by it (although a certain amount of absorption will always take place with a wooden drum) At lower tunings, they deliver a 'fat' or 'round' sound.  At elevated tunings they tend to choke up more easily, or as Bob Gatzen describes them, a 'Blunt' or 'Sticky' sound.

A thinner drum on the other hand will act like a type of membrane, vibrating and resonating in greater harmony with the heads, in this scenario, because it is absorbing vibration, it starts to vibrate itself and imparts its own vibrations and therefore sound into the overall tone of the drum.  At higher tunings, they are very clear in pitch and cut well through the music, they deliver greater volume than thicker shelled drums and lower tunings this may be considered a more 'woody' and warmer sound, overall a thinner shell will deliver a more pure tone than a thicker drum.  In general a thinner shelled drum will accept all head types and thicknesses and will deliver the optimum tone for that head type.

One caveat about using thinner shelled drums is that at high volumes, the vibrations within the shell of a drum itself can cause the sound to distort.   Pick your shells to match the music you aim to play.


What difference does the depth of the drum make?

The depth of a drum has an effect on the overall sound of the drum, not on the pitch but on the quality of the tone.  A longer drum will have a more full and rounded tone because the wavelengths generated will have more distance in which to develop, they will also be louder.  However with that in mind, longer drums require more effort to excite them as you are shifting a longer column of air with a greater resistance or backpressure.  A longer drum will have less attack, it will be slower to respond but will have a fuller tone and longer resonance, a shorter drum will have the reverse, again it is a trade off that only you can apply to your own drum-buying decision making processes.  Most off-the-shelf manufacturers provide only a limited number of depths for each diameter made, however custom makers can cut shells to any size.

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« Reply #236 on: August 08, 2007, 01:05:20 AM »
based on your experince sir dindin in using these 3 snares
yes maganda silang lahat pero...
ano ung pinaka nagustuhan nyo po sa tatlo?
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« Reply #237 on: August 08, 2007, 01:16:08 AM »
joey jordison.. for me though... sexy pa tignan.. kung coolness...
vinnie paul... yeah! pero kung hindi lang metal talaga.. gretsch na.. :-D
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« Reply #238 on: August 08, 2007, 01:31:45 AM »
aheheh kaso good sounding po hanap ko hindi style sir
anyway po hindi ko kasi alam ang difference ng mga yan
in the way na kung anong sounds ung kaya nilang gawin
iba iba sila ng sizes iba iba ng materials na ginamit
tho alam naten na maganda silang tatlo
thats why im asking for those who have tried this 3 snares

thanks po
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« Reply #239 on: August 08, 2007, 01:39:20 AM »
hehe.. di ba katinuan sagot ko? hehe... sorry dude..

naexplain na lahat dito ng kelangan mo malaman..

players preference na lang talaga...

for me i recomend joey jordison...

kung wala e gretsch... last na ung vinnie paul.. for it's

unusual size lang.. hehe.. but never tried it..
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« Reply #240 on: August 08, 2007, 02:09:26 AM »
aheheh hindi naman po sa walang katinuan sir =)
ok lang po salamat sa pag sagot

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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #241 on: August 08, 2007, 02:14:35 AM »
hehe.. di ba katinuan sagot ko? hehe... sorry dude..

naexplain na lahat dito ng kelangan mo malaman..

players preference na lang talaga...

for me i recomend joey jordison...

kung wala e gretsch... last na ung vinnie paul.. for it's

unusual size lang.. hehe.. but never tried it..




^^^un na un......  try mna lang lahat..... kahit di ka na magtanong.. makapili ka na... :-D

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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #242 on: August 08, 2007, 02:38:11 AM »
kaya nga po sabi ko "thats why im asking for those who have tried this 3 snares"
buti sana kung magamit ko sya sa store for about 10 mins each or more
hindi na po sana ko nagtanong dito kung pwede yun eheheh
mas maganda makakuha parin ako ng ibang opinion sa mga nakagamit na netong mga to
sayang kasi pera eh and kaya nga may gnitong forum para makapag tanong  :-D

anyway magkano po ung wrap na tinanong ko sa inyo heheh  :lol:
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« Reply #243 on: August 08, 2007, 02:46:35 AM »
hehe.. sa amerika lang may ganyan.. dito lage may do not tap.. na sign... hay...
just wait for more opinions... :-D
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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #244 on: August 08, 2007, 03:02:54 AM »
kaya nga po sabi ko "thats why im asking for those who have tried this 3 snares"
buti sana kung magamit ko sya sa store for about 10 mins each or more
hindi na po sana ko nagtanong dito kung pwede yun eheheh
mas maganda makakuha parin ako ng ibang opinion sa mga nakagamit na netong mga to
sayang kasi pera eh and kaya nga may gnitong forum para makapag tanong  :-D

anyway magkano po ung wrap na tinanong ko sa inyo heheh  :lol:


hehe.... sorry.. medyo iba yata dating sau ng post ko.... gusto ko lang sabihin na iba iba rin tayo ng taste o pandinig.. kahit sabihin ng iba na okay.. pero pag ikaw na tumingin, hindi pasok sau.. kaya nasabi ko na try mna lang lahat ng pinagpipilian mo... para sakin.. walang sayang na pera kung ano man sa tatlo yung mabili mo... :-D  sulit lahat yun.... :-D

yung wraps dko pa naasikaso.. bukas pa... hehe..

gudluck sa pagpili ng snare.... buti ka pa pumipili na... ibig sabihin me pambili na... hehe...

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Re: Joey Jordison, Vinnie Paul or Gretch Renown Maple?
« Reply #245 on: August 08, 2007, 03:11:40 AM »
@harugrugrug - oo nga po eh ung iba do not tap daw tapos ung tingin pa syo ng bantay kala mo di ka bibili ehehe. pano pa pag nagtest ka tpos di ka pla bibili nag survey ka lng? ahaha ano kaya masasabi nun sa loob loob nya heheh

@fouljan - aheheh, survey po muna ko bago ko bumili ng snare, makakapag antay pa po ehehe. paki pm nlng po ung price nung tinanong ko sa inyo ah. thanks!
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Re: all about SNARE DRUMS thread
« Reply #246 on: August 08, 2007, 03:30:14 AM »

hehe :D

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« Reply #247 on: August 08, 2007, 03:32:54 AM »
ganyan talaga.. hay....
wui.. tanung ko lang...

sino ba may knowledge nung snare kong tama imperial star...?
old skul na xia e... ung may old school na snare system...
hirap akong maghanap ng replacement parts e.. kahit sa
audiophile dahil wala nA daw stock.. sayang pa naman..
although working condition... hindi fullest.. bsta..
sayang e.. that snare was given to me by Roy,ung drummer
ni Miguel Escueta.. hay... help?
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Re: all about SNARE DRUMS thread
« Reply #248 on: August 08, 2007, 03:33:30 AM »
That's a sweet-looking OCDP hybrid wood/acrylic snare drum.  I love the hardware finish.

What can you say about it, omgitsddrummer?  

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Re: all about SNARE DRUMS thread
« Reply #249 on: August 08, 2007, 03:38:25 AM »
awww nandito minerge na pla dito ung post ko
hanap ako ng hanap kla ko nawala na lol
di ko alam...
 :lol:
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