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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2009, 02:48:42 PM »





Here are some screeneies of 10.2 inch  widescreen projector. There is no issue whatsoever on brightnes uniformity. Hotspot is non existent. The 113mm condenser lens that i have perfectly fits the fresnel lens focal length. Sorry for the date. The camera battery was discharge beforeand I have not adjusted the date yet.





Love the overall brightness edge to edge and in all corners





In this movie, the image quality is excellent. one of the best dvd copies that i have. the edge smoothness is like  a commercial projetor. Will shoiw pics later of ordinary dvds.

Widescreen lcd is very nice when watching widescreen dvds. No lost/wasted pixels as whole area of lcd is useful unlike 4:3 aspect ratio lcd





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« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2009, 07:41:46 PM »
Step by Step guide in buidling your own cheap lcd projector-For movies,gaming,karaoke and outdoor use

Materials Needed.
A> Lenses
1. Projection lens- Magnifies the image of the lcd
2. Fresnel lens
    a. Field fresnel - Converged the lighted image of the lcd to the projection lens
    b. Collimator fresnel- Focuses on the lamp. Collects the light from the lamp and transmit parallel light rays to the lcd.
3.Front surface mirror-optional
4. 12v dc power supply for fans and lcd-use pc power supply

B>Light Engine
1. Metal halide bulb- 150w -250w: high lumens/ color temperature bulb
2. Ballast- Controls the power delivered to the lamp
3. Capacitor- Power factor corrector. power saver
4. Ignitor- Start up the lamp creating 3.4kv sparks to fire the chemical inside the lamp
5. Reflector- Recovers wasted light from the lamp
6. Condenser lens - Increase light collecting efficiency and divert more light to collimator fresnel
7. IR/UV filter- reduce temperature of lcd created by heat /infrared radiation generated by the lamp.  Reduce UV rays to prevent discoloration of lcd.

Others
1. Front surface mirror- bend the light to make the box smaller
2. 2-units blower fans - cool down all the parts inside the projector
3. Fan grill- use for mounting parts of the light engine
4. bolts and nuts of diff sizes



Step 1- Choosing your lcd.

 Consideration choosing the right LCD for your need.

A> LCD size

DIY projector normally is bigger , or alot of times, alot bigger than commercial projector. Size normally is the first issue.

1. If size is not an issue, then there are alot of cheap used LCD out there with digonal size of 15 inches with xga resolution, very good enough to project high definition images.

2. If size is a problem, then its gonna take alot of effort to get compatible LCD. But if you have the money to spend, you can easily buy on line. Smaller LCD like 8.4 inch diagonal normally has SVGA resolution, few are xga resolution which are very expensive say around $250 on line.


B> LCD resolution

1. XGA Resolution (1024x768 pixel) A bigger LCD say 15 inches and above has xga resoluiton which are capable enough to display high definition images. Smaller LCD with XGA resolution are expensive.

2. SVGA resolution (800x600 pixels) - DVD disk has a resolution of 720x480 pixels so if you have an lcd with svga resolution, it can display the full resolution of dvd players which can display very good images (xga of course is alot better)

3. VGA resolution (640x480) - If you are really low on budget, some small lcd has vga resolution. this can still project good images though your projected image size will be limited otherwise you will see screendoor effect(pixelated) and washout images.

It is not recommended anymore to use lcd with resolution lower than vga resolution.

C> LCD inputs

1. VGA input - Never buy the lcd without vga input (computer video cable) . VGA input can display progressive output from your sources like pc and component output ( need transcoder to convert to vga) of dvd player .

2. HDMI/DVI (digital input) - Some lcd models have DVI input which is very good because some dvd players have dvi output. Very few lcd have HDMI input. DVI/HDMI peforms better than vga interface because it will bypass the A/D converter from dvd players, pc, and lcd monitor. The lesser electronics used, the better is the image quality.

Composite input/ s-video of dvd players only displays 720x240 pixels so avoid using this as much as possible. Remember VGA interface is the minimum requirements.

D> LCD aspect ratio

1. 4:3 aspect ratio- It has the same aspect ratio of regular TV. In the old days, most of the movies are 4:3 so no problem in displaying the correct image size. But nowadays, most movies are widescreen (1.77:1)or letterbox format ( 2.35:1). So you will see black bars in top and bottom of your image. You will lose up to 60% of lcd resolution when you use widescreen and letterbox movies so image quality will go down.

2. 16:9 aspect ratio- When you play 4:3 aspect ratio movie, you will see black bars at the two sides. But nowadays, widescreen are prevalent and you will use full resolution of your lcd and image quality will be better than when using 4:3 aspect ratio lcd.

E> Contrast Ratio - This is other lcd specification that can make lcd cheap or expensive ( the other one is resolution). Higher contrast say more than 1000 can produce beautiful images than with lcd with lower resoltuion. Contrast is the difference in intensity of white and black.

F> Response time- Lower lcd response time means lcd can display moving images smoothly. try to get lcd with response time not higher than 25ms . The lower, the better

G> Number of colors- Look for lcd with 16.7million colors to give accurate color rendition. colors with 200k is also good but will not be displaying the real color.

E> Compatibility- After learning all of the above, you must be sure that lcd is compatible. Compatibkle lcd has only one circuit board attached to the lcd panel.

Step 2- LCd strippinng and mounting the lcd in the panel

Strippping of lcd differs from on another. Each lcd is unique in construction. Others are very easy to strip and others will give you hard time. To be sure, just follow the lead of other builders.

Mounting the lcd in the frame: Before stripping the lcd monitor, make sure the frame is ready. You need to know the effective display area of the lcd so that you can make the frame. Use 1/4 to 1/2 marine or ordinary plywood for the frame. Aluminum and steel plate is also very good.

"Mounting of the lcd in the frame is the most critical part of the project". Make sure that the lcd is fully secured and hanging wires should be clamp to the back board. Lcd is the most expensive part of the project so dont take a shortcut. This is a very strong warning to all builders. The flat ( orange cable) ribbon cable connecting the lcd to the A/D board is very fragile. If you break this, then your lcd is dead. totally.

Be accurate in making the frame. The frame open area should be about 0.5mm bigger than the lcd effective display area in all sides. Again be accurate or you will regret this later.

In the pics, you will see the finished frame and the lcd with still the backlight. No need for the backlighht in this project. You will need to remove the backlight and just make this as something useful say desktop lighting.


In the pics, you will see the lcd in the frame and the controller board installed in the backboard of the frame. The backboard is so much bigger so in your project just make this big enough to fit the controller baord.


Step 3: Building the Light engine

Additional Materials needed:
Base plate: 1 pc
Fan Grills: size of the ordianry case fan
Assorted bolts and nuts.
4 springs

see pics.
a> mount the 4 -6inches long bolt in the base plate. The position of the bolt coincide with holes of the fan grills.
b> mount the reflector and put the fan grill on top. the fan grill was cut to accomodate the reflectro opening
c>put a spring on top of the 4 nuts to allow expansion of the reflector when heated
d>mount bulb base in the fan grill
e> add another fan grill to accomodate the opening of the condenser lens
f> mount the condenser lens
g> mount  another fan grill to hold the condenser lens
h> put the housing or cover
e> install the IR/UV filter

All the light engine parts must be placed very close to each other except the IR/UV filter which is one inch from condenser lens.


Step 4 Buiding your box

The box size depends on your design. The focal length of projection lens and collimator fresenel dictates the length of the box. the width of the box is dictated by the width of your lcd panel

Sample design:\

projection lens focal length: 345mm
Collimator fresnel: 220m
allowance
 collimator fresnel to lcd: 2 inches for air circulation
 Bulb to base plate: 2 inches
 
Most likely length of the box: 14in(345mm)+8.7(220mm)+2+2
                                        ;approx 27 inches

This is for the straight thru design. No mirror is used and the projector is in horizontal position. To save spave. a mirror is added on top and the projector will be in vertical position. This saves space.




Pictures of completed projector and all parts mounted. A power supply for fans and lcd using pc power supply is intalled near the projection lens.

Fans are installed at the sides one blowing between lcd and collimator fresenl and the other sucking out the hot air inside the box located down below.


Image quality of this projector is very nice
10.2 inch lcd widescreen
800x480 resolution
response time: 25 ms
colors:262K

Sample image




links:http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33356&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

http://s6.invisionfree.com/diyprojectorphils/

www.lumenlab.com

www.allinbox.com

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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2009, 02:19:15 AM »
using my 7 inch pj










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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #28 on: September 30, 2009, 09:39:17 PM »
New build 7 nch projector














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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2009, 05:18:07 PM »
^ayus...
magkano sir inabot?

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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2009, 10:06:37 PM »
13t all new parts

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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2009, 10:25:43 PM »
wow!!! galing naman...

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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2009, 09:24:23 PM »
i am so interested sa diy na iyan, magkano ka aabutin halimbawang may lcd ka na?
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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2009, 09:35:00 PM »
fresnel lens na lang at iba pang materials like wood etc ang kelangan mo, siguradong mas makakamura ka na nyan..
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2009, 10:13:47 PM »
fresnel lens na lang at iba pang materials like wood etc ang kelangan mo, siguradong mas makakamura ka na nyan..

oo tol! saktong sakto sa apt ko ito. hindi na ako mangangarap ng 34" na lcd! haha

mukhang yung fresnel lang aside sa lcd ang pinakamagastos ano?
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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2009, 10:23:50 PM »
heto [grape] question:



pero seryoso ako, yun na ba yung nasa likod nung lcd? so ang poproblemahin ko na lang ay ang power supply at ang porjector lens mismo?
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2009, 01:59:49 AM »
^yes pre, yan yung board sa loob ng lcd monitor mo. jan mo makikita yung VGA/DVI/Power connectors..kaya kung ikaw ang mag DIY, importanteng di mo masira yung tapes at wires na nagko-connect jan papunta sa LCD panel..

kung hindi -  :cry:
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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2009, 03:33:18 AM »
...kung hindi yari ang lcd dahil napunta sa wala.

hintayin ko magreply si hertzblaster at tanungin:

SAAN AKO MAKAKABILI NG PARTS NIYAN SER?  :-D
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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2009, 11:13:24 PM »
Yes its the controller board where you connect vga/s-video/composite input from pc/dvd player/playstation etc.

Take care of the cable connecting the board and the lcd. its very fragile. its unrepairable.

kindly visit here

http://s6.invisionfree.com/diyprojectorphils/


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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2009, 11:44:04 PM »
Yes its the controller board where you connect vga/s-video/composite input from pc/dvd player/playstation etc.

Take care of the cable connecting the board and the lcd. its very fragile. its unrepairable.

kindly visit here

http://s6.invisionfree.com/diyprojectorphils/



ayos salamat. nagregister na ako. salamat ng marami.   :lol:
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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2010, 02:16:41 PM »
@hertzblaster - sir pagawa naman ako ng dyi projector,im not into kalikot kasi..magkano aabutin?

may wood na ko,and paki check if compatible ung lcd ko LG L1719S ito po ung model, 17inch po ito..

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2010, 02:21:08 PM by melfortes »
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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2010, 02:20:11 PM »
or if sino po ang marunong jan na gumawa ng dyi projector please pakitulungan po ako..di ako marunnog mangalikot kasi

may wood na po sa akin at pkitingnan if compatible ung lcd ko LG L1719s...17inch po ito

pkicontact po ako or leave your numbers para tawagan ko po kayo..maraming salamat po

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« Last Edit: February 20, 2010, 02:22:30 PM by melfortes »
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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2010, 10:45:56 PM »
magkano po ang total na magagastos???

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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2010, 06:54:46 PM »
Successfully replaced 250w metal halide bulb with 100w led. T
Benefits
1. Lower electricity cost
2. Cooler projector than commercial projector using bulbs
3. Light weight. No more ballast
4. Simplified design. No more reflector
5. No more fan blowing to lcd. Keeps the lcd clean
6. One small exhaust fan is needed but needed a strong fan to cool the led/heatsink. Heasink mounted outside the box.
7. 50,000 hours life. It can outlive you. No more worries about replacement cost

Total cost to build 15t, if you are creative, you can spend much less.









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« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2010, 06:56:32 PM »
Commercial led projector price is still so high and not within reach of average individual CDRking came up with 30w 2000 lumens LED projector with 640x480 resolution selling at 18t pesos.

This diy projector uses 100w 8,000-10,000 lumens LED with 800x480 resoution. This is definitely brighter than cdrking projector.







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« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2010, 07:00:10 PM »
Lights on !



Lights off!



Color saturation is much better when using led. Now no more worries about electricity cost and bulb life. And led projector runs much cooler and smaller.











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« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2010, 08:05:50 AM »
^what speakers are you using? im sure that DIY projector has to be paired with something boomy to max up the home theater experience..

and i havent seen your work being posted in PinoyDVD..im sure you will receive tons of applause from the people there..
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« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2010, 11:23:12 AM »

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Re: DIY projector..
« Reply #48 on: April 09, 2011, 03:26:13 AM »
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