Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals?
Quote from: autoexecWhats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals?
Pro-Mark Groove Juice cymbal cleaner!
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P520 only. Available at AUDIOPHILE stores.
Kaya ang lesson dito: hindi na talaga ako magpapahiram ng cymbal kahit kanino.
Quote from: GepOT: In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto. :D
o nga no. so true. tapos hampas pa ng hampas pero ayaw naman magpahampas sa iba
Pag nasa cymbal bag, I make sure na walang metal-to-metal contact between 2 cymbals. Like now, I usually have 2 or 3 cymbals in one pocket ng bag... I'll have one cymbal (or yung in-between kapag 3 sila) wrapped in a t-shirt. I don't do this with the hats though, kasi same size lang sila... they fit together snugly and won't slide or create that much friction compared to differenly-sized cymbals.
In a way, mahirap talaga maging drummer in terms of equipment. Minsan ka lang makakita ng taong hinahampas ang mga gamit na pinag-ipunan niya ng husto.
pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..
Quotepag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
di ko nililinisan.punas lng ng dry basahan
at hindi ako nag papahiram ng cymbals buhahah.
hirap maging drummer tsk tsk tsk/..
Totoo po ba yun pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog???
Kahit po ba sa hi-hats? Di ba parang nawawala yung makalansing na tunog?
Tnx.
yuh, cast cymbals gets even better in aging.. lalo na ung mga Ks!
mga "dry" models ng zildjian pakintabin.. waw.. hehehehe.. iyak...
pag tumatagal lalo gumaganda tunog.
Diba kaw yung may dalang cymbals na may mga butas?? Heheheh narinig ko sila tinatawag kang inigo hehe. Tnx po sa info
Yep pero ang sarap ng feeling pag hinahanpas mo yung pinag ipunan mo diba? Ewan ko pero para sakin ang sarap talaga ng feeling. Hehehe!!
Oh yea. Pag nalabas mo na sa plastic tapos minount mo na sa stand, tapos uupo sa sa throne mo... pause muna ng mga 5 hours kasi tinititigan mo yung bagong biling K... tapos patakan mo sa bow, tapos sa bell.... grabe... sex yun.
Pakiramdam ko nga, hindi tumatanda ang mga A series e.
yan ung metal contact nya sa bottom or top hats. kc nag si-sizzle kaya napupudpod.hindi dumi yan.
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Ah ganun pala yun.. :roll: So wala pong paraan para matanggal yung mark na yun? Natural lang talaga yun sa hi-hats? Tnx! :D
nahihiya akong paluin ang malinis na cymbal e kaya hinahayaan ko lang dumumi sila. naka setup lang sa kit, punas ng dry basahan once a month (kung sinipag ako)
i polish them only during new year's day and then let them rot again till next year :lol:
Play it tight.
Avoid striking cymbals directly on their edge. Crash cymbals, especially, should be hit with a glancing blow, a little off center. Striking with a slight twist of the wrist also helps avoid breakage and allows crash cymbals to “open up”
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Play it tight.
Avoid striking cymbals directly on their edge. Crash cymbals, especially, should be hit with a glancing blow, a little off center. Striking with a slight twist of the wrist also helps avoid breakage and allows crash cymbals to “open up”
joke lng daw sabi ni kuya jun,play it right daw :D
hey guys thanks sobra sa mga replies. :D
hihi tanong lang, anong meaning nung put some swish?
ah okay, i get it na! :D
again, thanks sobra for the tips! talaga nakakatulog ito sa technique ko, buti talga nanjan kayo. thanks again! :D
Quote from: omnicloud7ah okay, i get it na! :D
again, thanks sobra for the tips! talaga nakakatulog ito sa technique ko, buti talga nanjan kayo. thanks again! :D
baka mamaya malalaman namin wasak nanaman cymbals mo ah. :D
buy a new one...joke! :D
Quote from: kawayan_stratbuy a new one...joke! :D
hehehe the best option :D
Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner - available in JB Music, Salonga Music
Sabian Cymbal Cleaner - available in Yupangco, Perfect Pitch, Yamaha stores
Pro-Mark Groove Juice - available in Audiophile
pero mas maganda daw ang pro-mark...
ask ko lang magagamit din ba yang pro-mark kahit sa mga hardwares??
Bro as far as i know, Pro-mark Groove Juice is less than 500 pesos
I have no idea about the Zildjian Cleaner though.
Abrasive ang karamihan sa mga metal polish e. Pwede niyang kaskasin ang cymbal mo, kaya ninipis.
nako titigilan ko na nga ang pag gamit ng MC metal polish... tsk tsk... matagal na ko gumagamit nun... :(
Please do not use GLO or other non-cymbal-purpose cleaners. use corresponding brands for appropriate cymbals...zildjian to zildjian-paiste on paiste-sabian for sabian. do not attempt to use "not having enough funds" as an excuse to buy general purpose metal polishers, you'll really regret it i swear to you cross my heart, the long term effect is even worse you might burn down the hardware that sold it to you. if you cannot afford one yet, be patient, save up and buy one later on. :P
using a metal polish is a no no right?
what will happen if use it on cymbals?
coz i tried using it one time.
salamat po
Please do not use GLO
so may abrasive/corrosive effect ang MR. Muscle? kasi ginamit ko to once w/ the help of scotch brite na FINE.. i scrub along the groove pra hindi sila masira.. in a circular motion.. sinubukan ko ito sa isang cymbal na nakatambak sa band room namen.. ehehehe.. abay luminis! hehehe..
P.S. - this is not my real method of cleaning.. i just experimented. hehehe..
cheers!!
sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?
:D
Quote from: zound_techsbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?
:D
:roll: nahihilo ako... (^^^text message)
Quote from: jun_BALARAWQuote from: zound_techsbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?
:D
:roll: nahihilo ako... (^^^text message)
oo nga eh.
hirap ng bihasa sa pagtetext sa cellphone kasi nadadala pati sa pag-type ng salita sa computer.
Sa opinyon ko ang red horse ay para sa ating tiyan at kaluluwa at hindi para sa cymbals..kaya para sa ikabubuti ng lahat..magsked tayo ng araw na kung saan lahat tayo ay magkikita at mag uusap tungkol sa drums at buhay-buhay habang umiinom ng redhorse...ciao
p.s.
pmack, suspendead at drumster dio
naaalala ko pa ang promise nyo na beer sa akin..hehe
Sa opinyon ko ang red horse ay para sa ating tiyan at kaluluwa at hindi para sa cymbals..kaya para sa ikabubuti ng lahat..magsked tayo ng araw na kung saan lahat tayo ay magkikita at mag uusap tungkol sa drums at buhay-buhay habang umiinom ng redhorse...ciao
p.s.
pmack, suspendead at drumster dio
naaalala ko pa ang promise nyo na beer sa akin..hehe
sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?
:D
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its ok to use zildijan cleaners on sabians?
NO! pao...its ok to use zildijan cleaners on sabians?
i think, yes... pareho lang naman cymbals and halos pareho ng metals...
so i think, oo pwede most probably...
kung medyo unsure mga sagot ko, ayoko lang masisi..
:)
ok. so sabian cleaners instead?oo naman sir.. di naman gagawa at magbebenta ang sabian ng ikapapangit ng cymbals nila.. diba?? ehehe
but for sure its going to make my cymbals nice and shinny? :-D
play safe:
zildjian cymbal cleaner---> zildjian cymbals
sabian cymbal cleaner---> sabian cymbals
paiste cymbal cleaner---> paiste cymbals
so on and so forth.
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
I recently cleaned my good friend's prized 90's model Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal using a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner, and it produced wonderful results.
i use kerosene. ung nabibili sa shell 45 per liter ata...oks yun. hehe it preserves the finish kasi and it is not that sensitive to logos, basta't padaanan lang. Mura pa.
clean cymbals are better sounding ones...
Pero nag-apply na ako ng Zildjian cleaner e hehe.yun naman pala. hehehe
cge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:
ako din nakikiramaycge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:
condolence bro.
everything happens for a reason.
keep your head up, man.
peace!
cge man i'll try to post some cymbals maybe next week...tagal ako di naka-visit dito, namatay kasi bro ko...bad 3p talaga. :cry:
mga master recomended ba gamitin ang GLO Metal Polisher????? i treid it on my splash and sobrang kintab like brand new pero may side effect ba to kasi alam ko for industrial use and GLO eh :?
A Customs are bronze, while ZBTs are brass... so maybe it's because of that. I know that bronze is amoy barya. Brass as in brass knuckles, on the other hand, smell less metal-ly to me.
Sa akin hindi mabaho ang bronze... mabango siya. Na-associate ko sa amoy ng tagumpay... bwahahahaha.
kung mabaho talaga, akin na lang :-DHeheh!! Kuya peeves talaga. :-D
oo nga joseph kung tlgang mabaho marami kami tatanggap ng mabaho mong cymbals hehehe pila ako sa likod ni peeves... kelan tau trade seph? sensya super busy kasi ehWaheheh asa kayo akin lang to! Hahahah. peace!! :-)
Heheh sana nga meron. O kaya wd40 scent, haha pampaadik! :mrgreen:A Customs are bronze, while ZBTs are brass... so maybe it's because of that. I know that bronze is amoy barya. Brass as in brass knuckles, on the other hand, smell less metal-ly to me.
Sa akin hindi mabaho ang bronze... mabango siya. Na-associate ko sa amoy ng tagumpay... bwahahahaha.
pansin ko rin to' i have both bronze and brass parang may kakaibang amoy, meron bang cymbals cleaner that leave a desirable smell on ur cymbals? gusto ko ng ganun
sana may rose n sampaguita sent, wag lang durian hehehehe
tinikman mo? :-onice... ma try nga..
isa pa...yung Zildjian pati yung Vic Firth sticks..pag nakakabili ako inaamoy ko yung part na nabali...amoy kahoy! :lol: :lol: :lol:Buti na lang hindi amoy bakal.. :lol:
what can you do to purposely get your cymbals dirty for a more darker sound?
you could try not cleaning your cymbals. yung mag-a-accumulate na guck and dirt mapapatunog dark yung cymbal mo. pero matagal itong process na ito, di ko sure kung paano mapapabilis.
mga bro, is it okay to use cymbal cleaners like zildjian and the cheaper one Glo metal polish? sabi kc ng iba di daw maganda na pina-polish ito kasi numinipis ang cymbals? ano puede alternative just in case na di masisira cymbals ? pangit kasi tingnan pag marami nang finger spots at malabo na cymbals
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Depende, may kanya-kanyang cleaner ang Zildjian at Sabian e.
what can you do to purposely get your cymbals dirty for a more darker sound?
turtle wax is damn good
sbi nila mgnda dw ung red horse pang linis ng cymbals,...
220 ba un?
panget na kc cymbals ko, luma na,
kulay green ata o brown...
kya ginawa ko niilinis ko gamit ung bakal na panglinis ng kaldero...hehehe...
nalimutan ko na ung tawag eh.. pero di naman nagasgasan ung cymbals ko, aus namn, luminis ung cymbals ko, kaya lng mejo d pantay pantay ung paglinis..
nilagyan ko kc ng zonrox eh
heehehe...
aus ba red horse?
:D
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mga sir, gusto ko lang po linawin, baking soda po ba o baking powder?? May nag sabi kasi dito na baking powder daw pero sa ingredients naman ni sir peeves baking soda.. Alin po ba talaga sa dalawa?? Thanks..
waaa :lol: Puro PAISTE! Cymbals ko walang nakasulat na pangalan...... .....T_Tpwede mo naman gawin yung mga instructiuons dun kahit sa ibang cymbal dba... :)
Tanong ulit.. Hindi po kaya mangalawang yung cymbals ko pag ganun ang ginawa ko?? Di kaya magka-moisture yun sa baking soda+hot water?? May nakasubok na ba sa inyo nito?
Tanong ulit.. Hindi po kaya mangalawang yung cymbals ko pag ganun ang ginawa ko?? Di kaya magka-moisture yun sa baking soda+hot water?? May nakasubok na ba sa inyo nito?
hindi sya kakalawangin..use hot water so it would easily evaporate :lol:
question guys..when buying a 2nd hand cymbal, is there a way for us to know if Glo was used? Ano ba signs pag Glo ang ginamit? :?
maamoy mo sya kung nilagyan pero nawawala din yung amoy pagtagal
besides that wala ng ibang sign
parang adik ang cymbal na nag GLO e. kasi sinisira ng glo yung protective coating ng brilliant cymbals kaya pagdumumi na yung cymbal ulit, mas dull na yung kulay nya. kaya ikaw naman, gusto mo makintab kaya lalagyan mo na naman ng glo ulit at hahanap hanapin mo na yung kintab na binibigay ni glo :-D
but seriously, sabi nila ninipis ang cymbal kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. <-- MYTH bakit yung belt buckle mo ng CAT, mas manipis yun sa cymbal at lingo lingo mo pinapakintab e hindi naman numipis?
sabi din nila nagbabago yung tunog kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. di ba pinapalo nga ng hammer yung cymbal tapos yung microns na tinangal ng glo e sobrang laki ng magiging effect sa tunog? :?
pero syempre kanya kanya tayo opinion. i personally dont believe in the cleaning products by zildjian, sabian, paiste na specially formulated daw. ang mahal nila e tapos dilluted metal polish lang din naman.
disclaimer: clean at your own risk
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for me comparing ZILDJIAN polish and GLO..... parehas na parehas....
well its time to look for a Chemist... ano nga ba talaga ang totoo :?
funny, but i use gasoline for my brilliant cymbals, it restores the "kintab" look. hehehe. hhmmm, about the sound...same parin, but if you haven't cleaned your cymbal for years tapos lininis mo, definitely, it will sound brighter and warmer. more overtones. godbless. :-)Anong klaseng gasoline sir? Nakakakintab ba? Pano nyo ginagamit, nilulubog sa gasoline or pinupunasan ng may gasoline? Thanks.
Anong klaseng gasoline sir? Nakakakintab ba? Pano nyo ginagamit, nilulubog sa gasoline or pinupunasan ng may gasoline? Thanks.
but seriously, sabi nila ninipis ang cymbal kapag nilagyan mo ng glo. <-- MYTH bakit yung belt buckle mo ng CAT, mas manipis yun sa cymbal at lingo lingo mo pinapakintab e hindi naman numipis?
Mga sir pede ba ang GLO (metal polish) sa mga cymbal stands? at sa mga hardware ng drums? Yung mga bakal..
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I see WD40 more as a lubricant and not a cleaner. It is used to stop squeaks.Napakagandang pantagal kasi ng mga kalawang yan sa mga chrome eh.. Hindi lang sa squeaky springs.. Kaya napilitan ako itry.. pero parang nasaloob yung kalawang ng cymbal ko, hindi nya mapenetrate.. :(
tanong lang mga bro, avedis zildjian niyo ba nililinis niyo din? pag ba hindi nilinis to ano mangyayari sa sound?
ano po yun? :? pag hindi pa din po gumana, ano pa po masusuggest nyo? :-D san po pla nabibili yung wd40 and mgkano? thanxx :lol:
ok lang magbago B8 lang naman e hehehe
di na kaya ibuff yun, kinain na ng kalawang yung brilliant finish
sir sa mga cymbal stands ano magandang paglinis pra kumintab ulet.. hehe... :lol:
Whats your recommended cleaner for Cymbals? Ang alam ko kasi nakakanipis ng metal yung metal polish.. Ano po ba maganda? Ok po ba yung WD-40? Suggest naman jan mga dudes! 8)nyekk...masisira cymbals mo sa wd-40...pantagal ng kalawnag yun pero iba effect nun sa cymbals...remember dude na ang cymbals is "tanso" hindi kinakalawang ang tanso and hindi nya kelangan ng wd-40...ginawa ko sa hihats ko..warm water and soap lang..then pede mo din gamitan ng steel brush pero wag lang masyado hard ung pagkuskos mo para nd magasgasan...pero xempre da best parin ung cymbal polisher tlga..meron atang sabian ang zildjian cymbal polisher...try mo sa jb or perfect pitch
nyekk...masisira cymbals mo sa wd-40...pantagal ng kalawnag yun pero iba effect nun sa cymbals...remember dude na ang cymbals is "tanso" hindi kinakalawang ang tanso and hindi nya kelangan ng wd-40...ginawa ko sa hihats ko..warm water and soap lang..then pede mo din gamitan ng steel brush pero wag lang masyado hard ung pagkuskos mo para nd magasgasan...
sir sa mga cymbal stands ano magandang paglinis pra kumintab ulet.. hehe... :lol:
WD-40 will not destroy cymbals. It is a lube and all it does is make the cymbals slippery. It has been an old trick for removing some cymbal stains. Some say it can make some cymbals turn yellowish in color but tone factors changing has not been reported.ooops sorry maling term nagamit ko......
However to your advice of using steel brush?!? :?
That will definitely remove rust..and everything else as well :|
mga sir, ok lang din ba gawing panglinis ng cymbal ang baby oil? :-)
ah di naman ung masyadong purong oil ung ilalagay sa cymbal...parang konting amount lng sa piece of cloth..tapos iwiwipe dun sa cymbal...ok kaya un? mejo napansin ko nakakatanggal ng mga minor stick marks..pero hirap talaga ako tanggalin ung mga hand marks..
di daw ba masama sa cymbals yung Glo??
may nagchallenge na neto eh, si peeves ata un sabi "yung buckle mo sa CAT araw araw mong gino-glo nauubos ba? di hamak na makapal ang cymbal dun sa buckle mo"
from that i take na myth yung nakakasira yung glo, ako gamit ko yung metal cleaner din, aerosol ata un, no damages naman sa cymbals ko...
san nakakabili ng groovejuice na cleaner? thanks! :mrgreen:
Waaah! I use Zildjian Cleaner pero hindi naman naging dull ang kulay ng cymbals ko ah.. Magkaparehas ang amoy ng Zildjian at GLO??
i want to ask the same question. first time ko gumamit ng zildjian cleaner. at amoy GLO siya. amoy GLO ba talaga ang zildjian cleaner? feeling ko tuloy nadaya lang ako hehe.up ko lang question ko: magkaamoy ba talaga ang zildjian cleaner at glo? :? thanks
ano po para sa inyo ang the best panglinis ng cymbals? rate kaya natin ano maganda base sa mga experiences ninyo. thanks!
1. branded cleaners
2. kerosene
3. turtle wax
4. soaking w/ baking soda
5. glo (myth: nakakasira ng cymbals)
6. cloth only
7. others
hmm yung zildjian cleaner ko kinain yung mga linya sa cymbals ko
its JF 4633 18 i think nabili ko sya last june then nilinis ko after a month
Bro rhanen, how old is your cymbal (check your serial number)? And was this the first time you used the Cymbal Cleaning Polish on your ZBT ride cymbal?
kung coating po yun bakit pag hinahawakan ko po parang ang kinis or flat na yung area?
I believe it wasn't the lathing (lines) that were removed from your cymbal. It must be its protective coating. And I think yours just got darker because of the accumulation of dirt and the elements. If that's the case, then it's just normal.
what I do after cleaning the cymbal with the cleaner, I wash it with soap and water to remove the residue left by the dirt on the cymbal and the cleaning solution. Then I wipe it off with a dry clean cloth.
curios lng: panu ung sa baking soda method of cleaning cymbals? halimbawa sa batya tpos hot water and then baking soda?ganun ba babad lang gagawin?gano naman katagal??? :?
wahahaha yes i did say something like that (sobrang hithit ko yata sa car freshner yun)
glo is abrasive yes, nakakasira ng finish pero siguro psychological lang yung nagbabago tunog ng cymbal kapag binuff mo ng glo. kasi di ba pinapalo nga ng martilyo yung cymbal para magbago ng tunog? ano ba naman effect nung punasan mo lang sya di ba?
ang pinakaconcern lang about using glo e bumaba yung value ng cymbal kapag naisipan mong ibenta lalo na kung nabura na yung logo. pero drummer ka ba o businessman/collector? hehehe anyway, to each his own
@rhanen28:
hindi naman nag-iba yung tunog ng cymbal mo bro? in my opinion, parang masayadong matapang yung mga brass cleaners na nabibili sa mga hardware shops para magamit sa cymbals.
sir ask ko lang kung pwede gamitin yung zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals?wala ba diyan na mabait na co drummer na sasagot sa tanong ko ng ito :lol:
wala ba diyan na mabait na co drummer na sasagot sa tanong ko ng ito :lol:
sir ask ko lang kung pwede gamitin yung zildjian cleaner sa sabian cymbals?
I once used a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner on a Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal, and the result is a clean shine with no side effects. :-)sigurado ka ditobro?
I once used a Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner on a Sabian AA Rocktagon cymbal, and the result is a clean shine with no side effects. :-)
bro DIO, i used sabian spray-on cymbal cleaner din once on my Avdeis crash. swabeng-swabe rin yung kintab.. :-) sigurado ako.salamat dito..pwede kaya yung kahit hindi spray?
sigurado ka ditobro?
Yup, 100% positive. I cleaned it myself. :-)thank you very much :lol:
Zildjian and Sabian's cast cymbals pretty much follow the same B20 formula. I guess as long as the cleaner is formulated for B20 cast cymbals, it will work nicely.
Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results. :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.
1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done. :wink:
Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO. :|
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)
Ask ko lang hindi naman ba nagiging brittle yung metal pag sinasubmerge sa tubig?pero mas ok ata to kesa sa GLO since 10 mins mo lang naman isasubmerge.Ma try nga.. :-)
dun sa WD40 wala naman akong naiisip na nakakasira sa cymbal since hindi naman nakakapag corrode ng metal yun :-)
i guess pwede na siyang protectant :-D
yup. i've tried this before sa mga traditional cymbals. less finger prints kasi magdadalawang isip ka hawakan yung cymbal. hehe. basta wag lang sa maalikabok, ok to. ang besides, WD40 is water based kaya no worries.
also try "WIPE OUT dirt and stain remover" available sa ace hardware. ok naman sya sa mga cymbals ko,kumikintab din after
mapunasan.lalo na sa mga libag na nakukuha sa palo ng sticks. after gig pinupunasan ko agad using wipe out
Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results. :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.
1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done. :wink:
Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO. :|
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)
Madali lang yung sa baking soda and sobrang ganda ng results. :-) Kumuha ka ng basin, yung panglaba siguro, tapos make sure mo na kasya yung cymbal na paglaglagyan mo.
1.) Fill the basin with warm water (wag boiling! basta warm)
2.) Add the baking soda
3.) Submerge the cymbal (swimming swimming)
4.) After a while (siguro about 10-20mins), kunin mo na yung cymbal then rinse mo siya ng water.
5.) Punasan ang cymbal, done. :wink:
Here, these are my results from earlier. (sorry, just took shots with camphone kaya mejo mababa yung quality)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image052-1.jpg)
Zildjian ZBT Hi-hats (4 years old)
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image053-1.jpg)
Here it is, the Sabian Xs20 Crash, tignan niyo yung effects ng GLO. :|
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e50/omnicloud7/Image054-1.jpg)
Paiste Innovations Crashride, ito grabe, parang brand new! (4 years old)
proven and tested ko na 2... i used kalamansi to clean my cymbals before ko binentahahaha bentahan mo ko isang sako ah......very good tip!!!!! :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D
sir wala bang paraan para ndi mabura ung tatak ng cymbals?? la lang sayang eh
Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.
Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.
Magpalinis kna lang kay Autoexec. Looking brandnew ulit cymbals mo intact na intact pa mga logos.
the best cleaner i know so far is the solution used to clean jewelry. sobrang mahal nga lang kahit sa divisoria bumili. clear liquid sya na nasa maliit na bote...250 pataas ang presyo nun. mas mahal kung sa gumagawa ng alahas bibilin.
sobrang kintab ng cymbal mo nun kahit konting pahid pero ingat sa logo kasi mabilis din matatanggal yun.
wag nyo na nga lang ako tanungin kung ano yung exact na tawag dun at kung saan sa divisoria binili kasi di na maalala. binigay lang ni ermat yung tira nya sa kin.
sayang sana natandaan nyo sir. :-D
hindi driller,alam ko pang butas yun ehh.Mismo! tompak! yan nga! :lol:
baka grinder,tapos gamit nya buffer wheel
yung gingamit sa machine shop pam-pakintab ng stainless steel.
gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...
curious din ako dun sa driller :?
ganito ba itsura nun??
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2rw290w.jpg)
gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...
curious din ako dun sa driller :?
astig yung drill! kaso mukang malaki ang risk sa aksidente.. :-/nope dalawa naman kaming gumagawa, yun isa tiga hawak ng drill yun isa tagahawak ng cymbals
gamit ko dati ung pang linis ng silver... para cyang paste na white... hindi naman glo... sobrang kintab ng staggs ko dati dahil dun, kahit idaan ko sa logo hindi natatanggal ung logo...
curious din ako dun sa driller :?
san ka nakabili nito?
kagaya nya yung cymbal cleaning machine sa youtube
pero hindi ba parang masyadong mabilis ikot nyan?
mabilis parin naman... post ako ng pics later... nalinis ko na mga cymbals ko using this little thing hehehe... the speed depends sa charge ng drill :Dsir ok dba? hehe
sir ok dba? hehe
sa inyong suking silver shop wehehehe.. mas ok daw ung liquid sabi ni papa peeves... interested din ako dun tuloy kelan kaya makapunta sa divisoria...
@ the pic... that is not a drill... nor it be a driller :d that is an angle grinder with a buffing wheel/pad attachment
a guitar luthier (mang max rufo of guitar central) uses a multilayer of maong disks, one on top of the other and attached to an airconditioner motor, he uses this as a buffing wheel... ok naman results hehe
the "driller" experience here we go
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0019.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0020.jpg)
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0021.jpg)
bili pa kong polish mmaya so mamaya ko pa masusubukan talaga to hehehe
Many believes that B20s specially Ks develop it's own character when you let it by itself without cleaning it.. Yung iba pa nga daw binabaon sa lupa para mapabilis yung aging? Hindi ako makakapag comment jan dahil wala naman akong mga Ks.. :-D
@ rizen no hindi naman delikado basta alam mong ginagawa mo hehehe.. safer kung ung buffing pad ang ilalagay sa drill, un nga lang may chance na magkaron ng swirls ung cymbal heheheKaso di ba aksaya sa buffing pad tol? Parang ang hirap ata linisin nun pag dumumi.. hehe.
I just bought this Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish at JB music
(http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/86/DSC00081.JPG?et=dGbMTxA9rm0R0szpzX7e4A&nmid=9187545)
the cleaner is recommended for: K Custom, K, A Custom, Avedis, Z Custom, FX, ZXT, ZBT
instruction said: Apply polish sparingly to a cloth
apply to cymbal from cloth using light pressure.
black residue will appear on the surface of the cymbal
remove residue and polish with a clean soft cloth
Ginamit ko sya sa K Custom cymbal ko, and ganito yung nangyari
(http://images.wilpredo.multiply.com/image/3/photos/3/500x500/85/DSC00080.JPG?et=3YYEo8stszoNqZzPe3E3vA&nmid=9187545)
yung left side ng cymbal na nilagyan ko ng cleaner, instead na mawala yung black residue, pag pinupunasan ko lalong umiitim.
help naman mga bro, tnx!
:: paging sir autoexec, baka kaya mo linisin cymbal ko hehe :-D
sales talk? peace!Wahaha! Nagbigay din naman ako possible solution ah.. :p
@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha :lol:Pakulo ka lang ng isang takuring tubig, tapos halo mo sa palangganang maraming baking soda at tubig gripo na rin.. dapat hindi naman sobrang init.. babad mo dun 20 mins tapos banlawan at tuyuin mo. (kaya ko sinabing banlawan dahil napansin ko mejo may pagka mild abrasive pa rin ang baking soda kahit na papano kaya sisiguraduhin mong walang maiiwan sa cymbal). ayun, tuyuin mabuti at subukang linisin ulit..
Wahaha! Nagbigay din naman ako possible solution ah.. :p
Pakulo ka lang ng isang takuring tubig, tapos halo mo sa palangganang maraming baking soda at tubig gripo na rin.. dapat hindi naman sobrang init.. babad mo dun 20 mins tapos banlawan at tuyuin mo. (kaya ko sinabing banlawan dahil napansin ko mejo may pagka mild abrasive pa rin ang baking soda kahit na papano kaya sisiguraduhin mong walang maiiwan sa cymbal). ayun, tuyuin mabuti at subukang linisin ulit..
Naku bro kung ipapalinis mo rin sakin yan wag mo nang patagalin dahil mas matagal nanjan yung itim na yan mas mahirap matanggal. ;)
nakakatamad pala gawin yung nilagang cymbals haha cge na nga papalinis ko na lang sayo. next week na lang siguro kasi mejo malayo e haha salamat bro :-DHindi naman bro, actually mas nakakatamad gamitin yung zildjian cleaner kesa nilagang cymbal, hehehe. Ok bro, sakto yun next week, busy din kasi ngayong week, defense namin.. hehe. :)
@straightedgejep: bro ang problema kasi habang pinupunas ko pa lang yung cleaner nangingitim na so humahalo yung itimk dun sa natitirang cleaner. pag kinakalat ko na yung cleaner kulay itim na. try ko yung wet cloth, baka gumana hehe salamat bro :-D
@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha :lol:
bor!try mo kaya metal polish...he he he..yong malamang tangal ang dumi yan pati kulay..kasi ganon ginagawa ng friend ko sa chruch...ako ginawa ko sa cymbals ko pinunasan ko sya ng oil..kunting oil lang!makikita mo makintab sya..pero yong dumi hindi na alis...kaya ngyon hind ko na nililinis e..pinopunasan ko nalang e...mas ok pa yong ganon e...saka habang tumatagal gumaganda tunog ng cymbals..kasi kong nililinis mo yong cymbals numinipis yan e...e ka nga e nsa maganda yogn tunog pag hindi mo nililinis..punas punas lang...he he he he..yon lang!nag adviced lang ako....GOd BLess Bro! :-D
sirs, may chance pa ba linising yung mga super dumi na cymbals? yung nagmumukang color red na tas walang shine at all :? :? zildjian 14" ZBT hats yung akin e, got it here sa philm. was wondering kung pwede pa malinis to? :-D
malilinis siya pero di kasing linis nung date meron din akong zbt hats nag shine siya pero hindi na siya pumuti kagaya nung brandnew sila
the "driller" experience here we go
(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k280/g0d5_g1ft/Photo0019.jpg)
bili pa kong polish mmaya so mamaya ko pa masusubukan talaga to hehehe
This is not cymbal care and "MAINTENANCE" if you ask me!! hehehe... this is like HOW TO REMOVE THE LOGOS as quick as possible!! :-D+1 parang nakakatakot nga! heheh
(You are also risking the cymbal to crack at the middle..)
eto kasi walang kashine shine what so ever, i was wondering kung pwde bang marestore kahit papano, at least yung nag gglisten pag natapatan ng light? :D
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?nasubukan mo na po yung post ko?? read mo lang po mabuti and make sure na yun mismo ang gagamitin mu
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir. :?
Quote from: ChocoMani on Yesterday at 07:18:58 PM
mga sirs.need help.i have sabian xs20.sa kakahawak ng cymbals.may mga fingerprints and stains na sya.anu kaya alternative cleaner para dito?b20 po kasi.sinubukan ko po sabon and basahan.parang numipis ung mga naaplyan q ng sabon.pls help mga sir.
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Posted by: cheezemonster08
baka naman yung stain na sinasabi mo eh yung patina na tinatawag,
mahirap talaga burahin yun
hindi sir.2 months palang sakin ung xs20's ko sir.
ok sirs.tnx a lot.i'll try.i will post before and after pics
pano ba alisin yung mga finger prints/marks? alam ko nabangit yun dito kaso di ko mahanap na...
Before
(http://i47.tinypic.com/28qvrxx.jpg)
After
(http://i45.tinypic.com/258qjwp.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2uqdvrn.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2exlr4k.jpg)
gusto yo malaman ang sikreto sa pagpapakintab ng cymbals? :)
heto ang sikreto
safeguard + ariel + mrclean, + basahang mejo basa
Before
(http://i47.tinypic.com/28qvrxx.jpg)
After
(http://i45.tinypic.com/258qjwp.jpg)
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2uqdvrn.jpg)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2exlr4k.jpg)
gusto yo malaman ang sikreto sa pagpapakintab ng cymbals? :)
heto ang sikreto
safeguard + ariel + mrclean, + basahang mejo basa
pano pag nawala na ung logo ng cymbal ko? ano kaya pinaka magandang way para i-restore ung logo's?
mga sir pano nyo inoorganize mga cymbals nyo sa cymbal bag? may nabibili ba para maipantay ko yung mga bell ng cymbals pag nasa loob ng bag?
mga sir pano nyo inoorganize mga cymbals nyo sa cymbal bag? may nabibili ba para maipantay ko yung mga bell ng cymbals pag nasa loob ng bag?
ah sige sir salamat makapaginvest nga sa magandang bag :-D
Mga Sir anu po ang dapat gawin para hindi mabura ng cymbals cleaner ung logo ng cymbals?before cleaning, get some duct tape and cover it by following the logos shape
saka panu po ba iiwasan na madumihan ung cymbals?always cover it with cloth when not in use
always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands
[/b][/size]always cover it with cloth when not in use
after playing (choking cymbals etc..) always wipe those finger prints created by sweat of hands
What I usually do for added protection, is after cleaning/polishing it using a cymbal cleaner, I put car wax. I put on a thin coat then polish it to perfection. :-D
It keeps the cymbal proctected from dirt, stains, or those grimmy/sweaty hands after use.
So sir vhinming lagyan ko muna ng duct tape bago ko lagyan ng cymbals cleaner?
tapos kailangan ko ba lagyan ng carwax pag katapos ko linisin??
maraming salamat po sainyo. :-D
yep! any tape bastat hindi maaalis when cleaning and not leaving heavy sticky mucus XD
recommended nila ang car wax,ok din daw,..
sa akin i never tried pa ehh, pero thumbs up ako dun :-)
may nakita akong cleaning paste sa bahay.
ngayon ko lang napansin to so i gave it a try.
ginamit ko sya sa zil-bel na saksakan talaga ng dumi,as-in pwede taniman ng kamote
tapos to my amazement with a little help with the scrub,kumintab ng konte yung bell
nawala yung dirt,and some stain.
but to no avail isang wipe lang sa logo burado agad :-(
it has glycerin in it,can it harm other cymbals?
for me it depends sa bow ng cymbal :-D
if malalim naman ang bow ng cymbal
pwede tayo mag stack from splash to ride
example
22" Ride
19" Crash
17"Crash
13" Hats
12" splash
10" splash
i believe na magkaka gap padin sila kahit gabuhok lang
depends padin talaga sa model ng cymbal
experiment nalang po
kapag nag stack from ride down to splash and hindi umangat yung ride, for me its a go :-)
baka matanggal yung logo pagtanggal ng duct tape or worse paglagay mo ng WD40 mabura na for good. try sandwiching tissues in between the logo and sa duct tape, yung part na lang na nakadikit is yung outside ng logo area/part. :-)
Mga poging philmusicians..
ok lang ba ang pagbu-buffing sa cymbals? kikintab kaya yun?
and another question is, may nabibili kayang logo sticker ng zildjian? and yung model yunit? kasi burado na ang K custom ride ko and baka may paraan pa para maibalik pa yun.. ganun na ganun yung sukat tska stile.. huhuhu T_T
ung cymbals ko po top hihat nagkaron nun parang green na mantsa,pano ko po k un mttgal tnx po.
patina yun due to oxidation. try mo gumamit ng cymbal cleaners, specifically groove juice. tiyagaang punas lang tanggal yan. iwasan mo na lang malagyan ng pawis yung pies mo para iwas tarnishing ulit. :wink:
remedy for faded logos?
remedy for faded logos?I think a fellow forum member, Vhinming, shared how he restored the logo of his cymbals. Not quite sure pero sya nga ata yun.
I think a fellow forum member, Vhinming, shared how he restored the logo of his cymbals. Not quite sure pero sya nga ata yun.
well I maybe in a wrong thread (you may delete this or transfer to a right thread) but I think it can be one of a general question for me. Is this WipeOut cleaner not bad for cymbals? I mean, hindi ba siya nakaka nipis like other metal polisher? Kasi mejo nagiging routine ko na kasi sya na every time na gagamitin ko ang mga cymbals, afterwards pupunasan ko sila ng towel with wipeout..
(http://www.acehardware.ph/Acehardware/uploads/products/48908601_wipeout.jpg)
hello everyone, i wanna ask some advice. i used sabian cymbal cleaner on my zildjian cymbals. at first it looked good and perfect but after a few hours it turned orange/darker. i did everything the right way that's why i'm wondering why it oxydized so fast even though i wiped off all the cleaner.sabian cleaner works best for only sabian cymbals. kaya if your cymbals are zildjian use zildjian cymbal cleaner. may appropriate cleaner for every cymbals. I think it is design that way
sabian cleaner works best for only sabian cymbals. kaya if your cymbals are zildjian use zildjian cymbal cleaner. may appropriate cleaner for every cymbals. I think it is design that wayi don't think so.:) kasi same lng nmn ng bronze alloy un and sabian is zildjian din nmn.:) actually gnyan din naging result ng zildjian cymbal polish sa akin lalo na sa trad finished cymbals kasi nga ang hirap alisin lahat nung cleaner pero in this case madali siya alisin pero un nga same results din.
read ka ng thread dito under cymbal care and maintenance. pede kaya yan e buffing machine noh?buffing machine? wla ako nun.:) actually sumakit na nga ung ktwan ko kakapunas and tlgang naalis ko lahat ng cleaner. i didn't use 2 cloth but i used 3 instead.:) i'm wondering kung pwde after ko siya malinis the way i did e wrinse ko siya with water prang groove juice kasi kaamoy siya ng groove juice lighter lng ung amoy niya.:)
buffing machine? wla ako nun.:) actually sumakit na nga ung ktwan ko kakapunas and tlgang naalis ko lahat ng cleaner. i didn't use 2 cloth but i used 3 instead.:) i'm wondering kung pwde after ko siya malinis the way i did e wrinse ko siya with water prang groove juice kasi kaamoy siya ng groove juice lighter lng ung amoy niya.:)bro mas better if you use a zildjian cleaner on your zildjian cymbals
gawin ko n lng un next week.:)
thanks...:)
bro mas better if you use a zildjian cleaner on your zildjian cymbalsang hirap kasi gamitin nung zildjian polish kaya ayw ko nun eh.:) majority kasi ng cymbals ko traditional finish kaya ang hirap linisin using the zild polish.
meron pang buff sa church ng mga cymbals after few months naging weird ung sound nila... more metal/steel like ung tunog nila.. imo
Does the "soaking with baking soda" cleaning method works on cast bronze cymbals too? :?epektibo sister! :wink: ingat lang sa logo ah
epektibo sister! :wink: ingat lang sa logo ah
@mambo - yup! siya yun bro! :wink:
DIY: Cymbal Logo Restoration
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php?topic=198850.0
@music_en_sound - this might help out as well
Cymbal Logo Refreshener/Restoration thread
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,26652.0.html
that is base on my experience. I used a sabian cleaner on my a custom and parang nagoorange sya. .you should try and find out.
Chipping in my experience...
I also use Sabian Cymbal Cleaner (Sabian cast B20 cymbals).
Nag-o-orange nga, if you follow the bottle directions strictly (which is what I did the first time).
To avoid that, here's what I do now...
After spraying, Sabian cymbal cleaner and leaving it on for up to a minute or so, I thoroughly rinse with running water.
I dab (not wipe) with a towel to dry.
Afterwards, I spray WD40 and let it soak for a few seconds, then I wipe excess off.
Hope this helps.
Chipping in my experience...talaga? ok lang ba gamitin ang WD40 sa cymbals(B20 alloy)? testing ko din yung clear floorwax :-D
I also use Sabian Cymbal Cleaner (Sabian cast B20 cymbals).
Nag-o-orange nga, if you follow the bottle directions strictly (which is what I did the first time).
To avoid that, here's what I do now...
After spraying, Sabian cymbal cleaner and leaving it on for up to a minute or so, I thoroughly rinse with running water.
I dab (not wipe) with a towel to dry.
Afterwards, I spray WD40 and let it soak for a few seconds, then I wipe excess off.
Hope this helps.
Ok lang ba na nililinis araw araw yung cymbals gamit yung Kiwi Metal Polish?
Ok lang ba na nililinis araw araw yung cymbals gamit yung Kiwi Metal Polish?
anong line ng Meinl? ang panlinis kasi depende kung cast cymbal or sheet cymbal. pero meron din namang pwede for all. ang alam ko may zildjian cleaner na pwede sa lahat, whether sheet bronze or cast cymbal.
what can you say?? hehe.... :idea: :idea: :idea:
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Sir grabe linis nyan... mga stick marks,finger prints at yung iba't ibang discoloration nawala haha.. nung ginawa ko kasi yung "nilagang cymbals" parang nag dark tapos parang may mga violet na discoloration na ngyari e... tapos nung nag apply ako ng secret weapon gulat ako e... hindi ko inaasahan na ganun effect... nawalan kasi ako pag asa nun umitim e... hindi ko lng sure kung pati sa ibang mga cymbals e effective, tapos 100% logo intact yang way ko...
Here's my 22" Zildjian Impulse Ride after cymbal cleaning experiment. Share ko lang...kalamansi?anu ginawa mo bro?
Before:
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After:
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16" Zildjian A Custom Crash
Before:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281269_107163192719166_100002764577287_35779_636923_n.jpg)
After:
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Both Cymbals Together:
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419801_201197583315726_100002764577287_268224_434634771_n.jpg)
I did not use anything that would harm my cymbals. It's all natural.
Here's my 22" Zildjian Impulse Ride after cymbal cleaning experiment. Share ko lang...
Before:
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/283443_107163126052506_100002764577287_35777_6666198_n.jpg)
After:
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419161_201196759982475_100002764577287_268211_1626131310_n.jpg)
16" Zildjian A Custom Crash
Before:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/281269_107163192719166_100002764577287_35779_636923_n.jpg)
After:
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/423816_201197156649102_100002764577287_268219_1920422132_n.jpg)
Both Cymbals Together:
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/419801_201197583315726_100002764577287_268224_434634771_n.jpg)
I did not use anything that would harm my cymbals. It's all natural.
walanjo? sabihin nyo na :cry:
please mga kapatid, share niyo na :cry:
KALAMANSI LNG YAN MGA PRE... yun sakin kalamansi lng e... bili kayo 10 pesos na kalamansi bawat cymbals 3-4pieces of kalamansi.. finger gamitin niyo sa pag kuskus sa cymbals... makikita niyo agad ang difference make sure lng na kuskusin ng mabuti ng "kalamansi" ang cymbals... pagkatapos hayaan niyo lng ng about 2mins... then banlawan niyo ng tubig.. tapos tuyuin ng mabuting mabuti... kung pwede i polish niyo ng piece of cloth yun lng.. nakaka ngalay... then ayun tapos na post niyo na yung result niyo haha.. ganun ginawa ko dun sakin... wuhan yung hi hat ko ang alam ko b20 bronze yun... wala nmn naging bad effect sakin.. pero ingat din ah d ko kasi sure sa ibang mga brand e.. pero natural nmn yung diba ..... goodluck!
I'm still perfecting the formula... There is a minor issue when I tried this experiment... But won't mention it... :-D
The formula is within the ingredients of KETCHUP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sux5ogosZ78 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sux5ogosZ78)
I'm still experimenting and trying to unlock it...
That's all the help I can give... TRY IT AT YOUR OWN RISK... Don't blame me if something bad happen to your cymbal!
I recommend that you only use this on cymbals that are REALLY crappy/old/rusty/dirty or whatever term you can think of...
I don't think this would benefit new cymbals... By the way I didn't use KETCHUP cleaning... :)
Thanks!
nice!!! hhehe btw.. is it a good thing or a bad? hahahaso far so good.. :-D hindi ko pa nga lang nasusubukan sa b20 alloy pero mukang effective din tingin ko gawa sa b8 gumana agad
sir wala na lang po ba na naglilinis ng cymbals dito sa philmusic? tipong magbabayad na lang para malinisan ung mga cymbals ko la kasi ako time pag saturday practice na namin sa church pag sunday naman tugtugan mula 9am hanggang gabi na un moday to friday may work naman po ako
Pwede ba gamitan ng Zildjian Cymbal Cleaner ang mga Stagg Cymbals? Thanks
bro, pashare naman ng secret cymbal cleaner formula mo :)
Eto din yung akin. Vinegar at patience. :)
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After cleaning, ung sound nun cymbals naging a bit brighter. Mas nakakahinga un cymbal.
Kaya nga niretract ko ang mga ito sa classifieds hehe. Bigla ko kc nagustuhan un sound nila after cleaning hehe!
wala pa din tatalo sa lemon. just slice it. then pahid mo sa TRADITIONAL finish na cymbal. then sundan mo lang lang tonal grooves. :)ano po pwede substitute sa tonal grooves? di ko po kasi alam yun eh...
oily masyado ang wd-40 tapos may amoy pa. go nilagang cymbals dude...masarap yun
eto ingredients:
- plangana na kasya yung pinakamalaki mong cymbal
- mainit na tubig pero hindi kumukulo ha
- baking soda na mabibili sa inyong suking tindahan
bili ka ng baking soda sa grocery tapos pakulo ka ng tubig. opkors yung tubig mo dapat malulubog mo yung cymbal. tapos usually isang dakot na baking soda ang ihahalo ko dun sa tubig habang mainit. konting halo. tapos lipat mo yung hot water sa plangana. ilagay mo yung cymbal mo sa tubig for 5 minutes. di mo kailangan galawin, yaan mo lang sya magswimming. tapos alisin mo sa tubig at punusan mo ng dry cotton cloth. just dont expect it to be shiny like after applying metal polish.
i've first known about this watching the food network, italian chefs use baking soda/hot water combo to clean pots and pans. then i read about using it on cymbals from pinoydrums.
bakit sinasabi ng iba na hindi ok gumamit ng metal polish sa cymbals ?
tried ketchup sa avedis hats..nalinis pero di pantay pantay..
kaso di ko napicturan before ko linisan sa sobrang excitement..hehe..
:)
i was wondering if anyone here has already used the Vater Cymbal Polish/Cleaner? Comments will be highly appreciated! TIA! :cool:Used one here. medyo nakakatanggal lang siya ng decal, pero ok siya
need opinions on this. i just bought a stagg DH china sa music source ali mall kahapon. 2 na lang stocks nila tapos yung isa may significant dent sa edge so i chose the other one. may hammer marks na uneven pero di ko pinansin dahil ive had this with my other staggs. paguwi ko, napansin ko may scratches sa isang side, di ko napansin dun sa store. concern ko lang, mag lealead kaya to sa crack sa future?
Thanks! :)
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The scratches won't lead to cracks unless they're deep enough. Posibleng factory defect yan or due to shipment mishandling. Medyo madilim yung pics though so I'm not really sure kung gaano ba kalaki yung damage ng scratchmarks sa pies mo.
meron ba nito sa JB or kung san man locally ?
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Gibraltar SC-19B Short Flanged Cymbal Sleeve4/Pac
http://www.amazon.com/Gibraltar-SC-19B-Flanged-Cymbal-Sleeve4/dp/B0002F73TE/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1385500491&sr=1-1&keywords=Gibraltar+SC-19B
tried the "baking soda method" with my xs20 ride earlier..
lalo ata dumumi nag karon ng mga green thingy.
i dont think its patina sir. kasi ive just purchased yung VATER cleaner from lazer kagabi. kiskis linis ako.. kumintab siya and theres like a coating. pero di pa din natanggal yung dumi. medyo natanggal pero naumay na ko kaka kiskis haha :))
baka nuclear waste yan kulay green eh :-D
I just purchased and tried the Meinl Cymbal cleaner. It is by far the best and easiest to use. It totally outperformed the Zildjian cleaner. The logo will remain intact.
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Results
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I just purchased and tried the Meinl Cymbal cleaner. It is by far the best and easiest to use. It totally outperformed the Zildjian cleaner. The logo will remain intact.
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Results
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1.Sorry walang before images.
2. Logos will not be erased nor get affected. I tested first on an older cymbal since takot din ako. Nung ok, I used it in my newer pies
3. Parang groove juice to. Spray evenly, wait for at least 15-20 seconds. Wipe off with a clean towel. I used two microfiber cloth. One for wiping off and the other one for final buff
4. Price is 1.1k sa Lyric
sana may makapag post ng before and after hehe para kasing too good to be true na natatanggal yung stains ng cymbals pero intact yung logo. considered na stain din yung logo eh :P
OO Nga! HAHAHA
Bro St. Anger! baka pwede mo kaming pagbigyan ni sir Bugoy! :D
Hehehe sir di pa masyado madumi cymbals ko. Just getting ready lang hahaha tsaka impulse buy lang din kasi 50% off
Baka pwedeng magvolunteer ng cymbals ko HAHAHAHAHA anyway, pag may nilinisan ka bro, hope you could post photos of it :D thank youuuu!
Sige sir. Bigyan kita ng cleaner and polish para matry mo sir. Saan ba area mo sir?
OH MAN. ang bgait mo naman masyado sir :) hahaha makati area weekdays, or Katipunan area pag weekends :) dalin ko nalang sayo para makagawa tayo ng before after :)
Hehe malapit ka pang pala sir mindanao ave qc lang ako.. weekend is ok.. nasa qc cityhall ako sa saturday. May lalakarin ako sa sat ng umaga bukas til sunday ang cityhall this entire january. Just pm me sir
I recommend the Meinl Cymbal Cleaner. di nakakatanggal ng logos, pero grabe makalinis! :D
^^^^ nakakainggit yung quote shet talaga.
anyway, ang alam ko okay talaga si meinl. pag nakabili ako, audition natin sa pawis mo =))
ahahaha! Pede. Yung ride ko puro stick mark at bakat ng kamay ko. (Nylon tip yung gamit ko na stick)
Kaya pa kaya yun ng cymbal cleaner?
Haha gaano ba kalupit acidity ng kamay mo paps?
Grabe ang ulan dito samin,bad trip! Haha,ot lang.
Meinl nirecommend ko sa students ko,tignan ko magiging reaction nila in a few months,haha
^^^^
gamitan mo ng liha. tanggal yan XD HAHAHAHAHA
O sige, tone is in the mojo nalang. :lol:
Mga sir, san kaya available ang Meinl Cymbal Cleaner na yan? :wave:
sige mga sir magpopost ako ng pic ng before and after cleaning.. pero una.. kelangan ko muna makabili.. wahahahaha! mga magkano kaya un?? <_<
sa lyric sir. 1.1k yung spray on type yung bilin mo sir. mas okay. before and after pics please! :D
ayuz! sakto sa monday sweldo na! :) sure mga master, no problem.. post ko yung picture ng before and after dito.. :)
Ayus! balitaan mo kami sir!
pag ba ginamitan nung mga cymbal polish or nag papolish service naiiba ung tunog ? :O
haha lalo na ung sobrang itim na nung cymbal haha
pag ba ginamitan nung mga cymbal polish or nag papolish service naiiba ung tunog ? :O
haha lalo na ung sobrang itim na nung cymbal haha
Try Tomato Catsup..... Mganda resulta.... Madaming gumagamit.... :) :)
I wouldn't use the ketchup method sir kasi may mga acids ito na baka maka-corrode sa cymbals. best to use a polish pa rin for me :)
I wouldn't use the ketchup method sir kasi may mga acids ito na baka maka-corrode sa cymbals. best to use a polish pa rin for me :)
Good thing I didn't try it yet.... He he he..... Just saw some videos.... I'll just leave my cymbals as it is then... :)
Lalo na yung GLO metal polish :lol:
siguradong kinis kintab yun :lol:
bwahahahahahaha! natawa ako :lol:
kapag binanatan ng glo+buffer yan parang bagong wax na kotse ang kintab nyan :-D
Haha! Glo! Seryoso Ka dyan Ralph? Haha! Ako nagamit ko lang zbt ko e zildjian cleaner na amuy pledge,ehehe,
Wala naman nangyari.
Lalaban kaya ang glo and buffer sa acidity ni mr.robertshanepascual? Haha
Good thing I didn't try it yet.... He he he..... Just saw some videos.... I'll just leave my cymbals as it is then... :)
depende sa level of damage ng acid ng pawis ni shane hahahaha! pero yung ZBT ko nung time na yun, natanggal ang finger prints. pati yung lathing HAHAHAHAAHAHAMalay mo mataas ang level ng acidity niya,haha
Malay mo mataas ang level ng acidity niya,haha
Haha! Panalo yun ha! Hehe! Magbibihis nako paps! Punta nako dyan sa inyo! Wuhoo! Jam na Ito! Haha. :cute:
depende sa level of damage ng acid ng pawis ni shane hahahaha! pero yung ZBT ko nung time na yun, natanggal ang finger prints. pati yung lathing HAHAHAHAAHAHAlathing na nga lang yung meron eh, yun pa ang nawala hahahaha
si Guitar Salon my inooffer na Cymbal Spa ano masasbi nyo dun ? okay kaya yon ? :)
meron ba dito sa Pilipinas yung Sabian Cymbal Cleaner? Hindi nakakatanggal ng logo... Nakita ko demo sa youtube.... San makakabili at magkano? :)
meron ba dito sa Pilipinas yung Sabian Cymbal Cleaner? Hindi nakakatanggal ng logo... Nakita ko demo sa youtube.... San makakabili at magkano? :)
Bro, try the MEINL Cymbal Cleaner. di nakaktanggal ng logos. pero kintab talaga. 980 per bottle ata sa lyric :)
:wave: hello mga Sir! may mga question lang po ako. yung 21" A sweet ride ko po kasi may mga dirt na color black and fingerprints na nangitim na dahil sa pawis na nag oxidized na.. hindi na kaya tanggalin ng meinl cymbal cleaner. gusto ko po sana maalis kasi gusto ko malinis ung mga cymbals ko..
1. saan po ba makakabili ng brasso metal polish?. Nag research po ako regarding sa brasso ok naman ata siya and mukhang kaya tanggalin.
2. any recommendation po na ibang panlinis o pantanggal ng dumi?
Maraming salamat pos a tulong.. God Bless po!!
1. NO.
2. Pwede mo subukan yung baking soda method na nabasa ko somewhere. popular din yung half lemon slice at asin. YMMV pero sa tingin ko kung di na kaya ng ibang brand ng cymbal cleaner, kelangan mo na ipa-refinish. But personally, I won't clean that ride :-D
gudeve ask ko lang po kung di po ba proportion ung weight ng K custom hybrid hats 14".. kasi ung top and bottom hats napansin ko di pantay ung kapal sa magkabilang side ang kapag nilagay ko siya sa stand ung top hats and bottom individually naka tagilid siya so di panatay ung bigat niya per side ng cymbal.. ask ko lang kung ganon po ba talaga... brandnew po ung hats.. ty
gudeve ask ko lang po kung di po ba proportion ung weight ng K custom hybrid hats 14".. kasi ung top and bottom hats napansin ko di pantay ung kapal sa magkabilang side ang kapag nilagay ko siya sa stand ung top hats and bottom individually naka tagilid siya so di panatay ung bigat niya per side ng cymbal.. ask ko lang kung ganon po ba talaga... brandnew po ung hats.. ty
eto po simple diagram ginawa ko sa paint.. pagpasensyahan niyo na :) (http://i1333.photobucket.com/albums/w621/biboyalmodal/Kcust_zps125bb64d.jpg?t=1407820204) naka tagilid siya sa stand kasi mas mabigat ung kabilang side.
wow ok bakit wala akong paint skillz na ganyan? :lol:
Anyway, hm, can't really say much about the weight.
Normal naman yung di pantay ang sara, pero medyo malaki sya para sakin, especially kung lagi ganyan.
Pwedeng di nga pantay yung weight ng hats mo. Pero pwede rin off-center yung hole, or maluwang yung hi hat rod mo, or sobrang taas ng setting ng tilter mo sa bottom hat, or a combination of any of those.
+1. hindi dapat sobrang laki ng difference nung weight nung cymbal. check mo i patong sa daliri mo, if it leans, cymbal problem most probably. kaya I was never a fan of the Hybrids hahahaha
kapag sa daliri ganun pa din eh.. actually dun ko unang tinry .. pero ung tunog nung hihats grabe ang ganda.. :drool:
umg tilter sa bottom hats di naman nakalabas kaya hindi naka inclined ung bottom pero ganun padin laging lumalabas kung baga di sakto ung lapat nila.
:-D :) TOmo!! wala naman problem sa tunog aangal pa ako hehehe :eek:... Case Closed na nga toh!! hahaha thank you po sa inyo!!
kung maganda naman ang tunog, wala naman dapat problema as long as it doesnt bother your playing style. AMMK. palagi.
Alright, thank you sirs! :wave:Sa experience ko sa baking soda hindi natanggal yung patina. Pero sa calamansi, ketchup at suka, natanggal siya.
Susubukan ko po muna yung calamansi/baking soda method. Balitaan ko po kayo kapag nalinis ko na yung cymbals ko.
Wala pa po akong budget para sa Meinl cymbal cleaner eh. Hehehehe. :)
Sa experience ko sa baking soda hindi natanggal yung patina. Pero sa calamansi, ketchup at suka, natanggal siya.
Ang magiging problem mo lang ay kung pano pakikintabin yung cymbals mo kasi nawawala yung kintab nung sinubukan ko yang mga yan.
unless going for "traditional finish" wala naman sigurong kaso yun :) may nabasa ako sa ibang forum na pinupunasan nila ng pledge yung cymbals nila (actually pati metal shells). ang tanong ko ay, safe ba yun? :-(
yes. safe ang pledge. lemon oil base lang din yun with aerosol.
ayoko lang ng oily cymbals hahahaha
bakit ba ayaw niyo ng patina... </3 it gives character to the cymbals brozzzz </3
yes. safe ang pledge. lemon oil base lang din yun with aerosol.
ayoko lang ng oily cymbals hahahaha
bakit ba ayaw niyo ng patina... </3 it gives character to the cymbals brozzzz </3
Anu naman nagagawa ng pledge sa cymbals? Nakakalinis ba sya at nakakatanggal ng stain or pampakintab at pang coating lang?
Back read Ka bro,nandito na sa previous post ang ka sagutin mo. ^-^