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Title: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Deemed on April 22, 2008, 10:47:40 PM
Sa guitar central may top 40 newbie mistakes, sa pag drums ano ano ba ang mga mali na nagagawa ng mga beginner?
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: FINGERZAP on April 23, 2008, 12:04:50 AM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. 2. Not practicing with a metronome. 3. Not using ear protection 4. Using old beat-up sticks (may cracks/dents/chipped parts, halos napuputol na). Sticks are your main tools, so they shouldn't get in the way of learning the instrument. You're gonna have the best chance of success possible if your tools are working properly. 5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself. 6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. 7. Hitting cymbals directly on the edge thus causing them to crack. 8. Over-filling. Inserting fills where it's not needed or appropriate. Sa desire nilang magmukhang magaling, puro fill na lang ng fill. 9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. 10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
*Which reminds me, I gotta go log-out so I can practice!
Dagdagan nyo na lang...
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Deemed on April 23, 2008, 05:06:29 AM
awts sapul ako sa ibang nilista mo ah. ahaha
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Post by: CDodrummer on April 23, 2008, 05:38:02 AM
foot technique. letting the beater press against the batter after the note
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on April 23, 2008, 08:22:11 AM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. 2. Not practicing with a metronome. 3. Not using ear protection 4. Using old beat-up sticks (may cracks/dents/chipped parts, halos napuputol na). Sticks are your main tools, so they shouldn't get in the way of learning the instrument. You're gonna have the best chance of success possible if your tools are working properly. 5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself. 6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. 7. Hitting cymbals directly on the edge thus causing them to crack. 8. Over-filling. Inserting fills where it's not needed or appropriate. Sa desire nilang magmukhang magaling, puro fill na lang ng fill. 9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. 10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
*Which reminds me, I gotta go log-out so I can practice!
Dagdagan nyo na lang...
Guilty on a few counts! :roll:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rockizta123 on April 23, 2008, 08:36:07 AM
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: CDodrummer on April 23, 2008, 08:54:07 AM
i used to be guilty on 3. not using ear protection. my damaged my ear(thanks to z customs crash and hihats). Doctor suggested I quit drumming but I would never do that! now I'm using isolation headphones :)
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Post by: peeves24 on April 23, 2008, 09:00:08 AM
watching too many videos instead of practicing :-D
ouch
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Post by: rhanen28 on April 23, 2008, 09:24:23 AM
bili ng bili gear pero hindi nagpapractice
hehehe :-P
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rockizta123 on April 23, 2008, 09:28:07 AM
ako nagaairdruming instead of investing on a good kit at least fernando :-D
wala kasi akong kit eh! but im good :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: FINGERZAP on April 23, 2008, 09:38:51 AM
Masasakit ba yung mga pinagsusulat ko? :-D Don't worry, tinatamaan din naman ako sa mga pinagsususulat ko dito! :lol:
O eto pa: Wanting to learn drum solos right away! E double strokes at 120bpm nga lang, kandahirap na, drum solo na kaagad? Before taking up integral calculus, you should know differential calculus muna. :-D This is akin to guitarists wanting to learn fast solos right away when they haven't even practiced their hammer-ons, pull-offs, bends, vibratos, etc.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: dasplinter on April 23, 2008, 10:44:53 AM
So far eto yung mga mistakes na lagi kong ginagawa.. :-D
6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself.
hndi ko tlga malaman pano i-tono ung drums ko sa bahay.. well sa tingin ko ok naman yung tunog.. kya hndi ko na pinapakialaman.. baka mapunit yung heads eh.. :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rimshot601 on April 23, 2008, 01:04:04 PM
Too many cymbals and cowbells but so little chops.
Jumping to soon on the double pedal bandwagon when one hasn't mastered the rudiments on upper limbs yet.
Inclined to ask questions (open new thread about an old topic) instead of doing research on his own first.
Buying/using inappropriate gears to the style of music his band plays.
Copycat syndrome.
:-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: DumDrum on April 23, 2008, 01:18:34 PM
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Chopstix on April 23, 2008, 01:43:45 PM
ouch!!
isa pang common mistake eh nagmamadali lalo na pagkatapos ng fill. biglang bumibilis at nawawala na sa tempo.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: compvr on April 23, 2008, 02:33:30 PM
eto siguro worst mistakes, dinaanan ko din yung iba dito hehe(not implying na magaling ako ha, im far from being magaling :-D).
-playing too loud, di na madinig ibang instruments. -double pedal agad ang binabanatan kahit nadadapa pa pag single pedal. -advance na beat at chops agad ang gusto gawin. -tadtad ng electrical tape yung dulo ng stick, maling hawak ng stick. -maling pagpalo ng cymbals, at drums. -feeling magaling kahit nagsisimula pa lang mag drums. -"rudiments? ano yun?" -hindi gumagamit ng metronome (ako din minsan lang gumamit, kaya naiiba beat pag nag fi-fills hehe) - mentality na: a.) mas malakas pumalo, mas magaling. b.) pag nakakaputol lagi ng stick mas astig. c.) mas magandang drumset, mas magaling yung drummer. -walang ginagamit na hand at foot techniques. -hindi nag aaral ng basics.
ok to mga bro lalo na pag i pi print tapos ipopost sa mga rehearsal studio.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: ushuaia on April 23, 2008, 03:36:18 PM
akala ang music ay pagalingan,pabilisan at pagandahan ng gamit.
inuuna pa pogi hindi ang musika.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: nerol1i4a on April 23, 2008, 05:26:17 PM
Buying/using inappropriate gears to the style of music his band plays.
Copycat syndrome.
:-D
+1
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rockizta123 on April 23, 2008, 08:46:57 PM
mga kapatid, nagdrums na ulit ako kanina, napagtanto ko na kailangan ko nga ng metronome hahaha! nawawala rin pala ako sa timing pag di ko na marinig yung tinutugtog :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Paolo-I-b on April 24, 2008, 02:34:01 AM
mga kapatid, nagdrums na ulit ako kanina, napagtanto ko na kailangan ko nga ng metronome hahaha! nawawala rin pala ako sa timing pag di ko na marinig yung tinutugtog :-D
Hehe! Kailangan talaga metronome. When I started drumming, I didn't even know what metronomes were. Back then, when I would practice playing along with my CDs, sa dinig ko, hindi naman ako nawawala sa beat. But it's very possible kasi na within the context of a song, maaaring di ka nga nawawala, pero pag sinabay ko na sa song yung click ng metronome I discovered na most of the time slightly nauuna or nahuhuli ako sa click ng metronome. Hindi mo madi-discern ito kung puro background music lang sinasabayan mo. Pero with the constant click of the metronome, it will become obvious. What's more, if you're practicing rudiments, kailangan talaga ang background click ng metronome. You're not gonna practice rudiments with music as your background because, like I said, with music as your background possible pa rin na mauna ka or mahuli ever so slightly sa beat.
With metronomes, magiging SPOT-ON yung timing mo.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: jcbska on April 24, 2008, 09:04:04 AM
Hehe! Kailangan talaga metronome. When I started drumming, I didn't even know what metronomes were. Back then, when I would practice playing along with my CDs, sa dinig ko, hindi naman ako nawawala sa beat. But it's very possible kasi na within the context of a song, maaaring di ka nga nawawala, pero pag sinabay ko na sa song yung click ng metronome I discovered na most of the time slightly nauuna or nahuhuli ako sa click ng metronome. Hindi mo madi-discern ito kung puro background music lang sinasabayan mo. Pero with the constant click of the metronome, it will become obvious. What's more, if you're practicing rudiments, kailangan talaga ang background click ng metronome. You're not gonna practice rudiments with music as your background because, like I said, with music as your background possible pa rin na mauna ka or mahuli ever so slightly sa beat.
With metronomes, magiging SPOT-ON yung timing mo.
oo nga, akala ko tama lang tempo ko, bumibilis din pala ako konti, at nawawala talaga ako hehehe, pero pag rinig ko yung backtrack, nakakasaba ako, pag di masyado, nawawala din ako hehehe :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: daemonite on April 24, 2008, 11:30:22 AM
1. Not wearing Ear Protections (Kelangan talaga ito) 2. Metronome usage 3. Too much cymbal notes 4. Bad timing on fills, bumibilis tuloy ang tempo. 5. Carry over tempo from a previous song 6. Having time for practice
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rockizta123 on April 24, 2008, 12:26:37 PM
add ko pa: -walang pakialam sa gitarista -di nagaadjust ng tempo kahit off beat na siya -masyadong malakas ang palo, akala niya magaling siya pag malakas pumalo -masyadong mahina pumalo (mahinhin) :lol: -nagmamadaling gumaling magdrums :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Gep on April 24, 2008, 12:30:43 PM
1. Dinadaan sa paramihan/pagandahan ng gamit, plus pinagmamayabang pa. Magsama kayong mga mayayabang sa pearldrummersforum, bwiset.
2. Pinapalo ang crash sa dulo ng bawat stanza.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rockizta123 on April 24, 2008, 12:43:13 PM
1. Dinadaan sa paramihan/pagandahan ng gamit, plus pinagmamayabang pa. Magsama kayong mga mayayabang sa pearldrummersforum, bwiset.
2. Pinapalo ang crash sa dulo ng bawat stanza.
at dinadaan sa porma, tinutugtog naman narda, stay-cueshe, the day you said goodnight :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Gep on April 24, 2008, 12:47:27 PM
I can hear the loud crack of a LIMITED EDITION snare drum.
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Post by: peeves24 on April 24, 2008, 12:58:21 PM
pumapalo ng plakado ang kanta at nasa tyempo pero parang robot. kung sa singer e monotonous, walang dynamics at walang feelings
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: marko21 on April 24, 2008, 01:13:23 PM
Quote
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. 2. Not practicing with a metronome. 4. Using old beat-up sticks 5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself.
Guilty ako dito ah :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rimshot601 on April 24, 2008, 03:34:08 PM
Overplaying and lack of dynamics.
..hmm..those were the days. :roll:
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Post by: Justin Maulit on April 24, 2008, 07:04:21 PM
TAMAD MAG-PRACTICE!
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Post by: Kin on April 24, 2008, 07:32:09 PM
pwede ba toh: Not investing ones self to a very educational drum teacher.
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Post by: nivek518 on April 24, 2008, 08:43:14 PM
ouch :-D
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Post by: dasplinter on April 24, 2008, 10:01:53 PM
palaging nanghihiram ng stick. aw~ :-D
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Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 25, 2008, 03:43:28 AM
2. Not practicing with a metronome. 3. Not using ear protection
10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
I extend emphasis on #2 and #3. (I have to admit I fall under #2 still)
#10 is a different story! That should be acquitted of all charges! :-D
Usually I notice newbies trying to attain that "show-off", speed oriented drumming instead of quality.
Rarely do I see newbies which really sit down and master the cleanliness of sounds they produce from a kit and really discipline themselves on the basics first.
As we always hear "we had to learn to crawl before we walked then ran," same goes here.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: metalmuhlisha on April 25, 2008, 04:04:03 AM
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10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops!
ehem maraming ganyan. mahilig magtanong ng mga tips, exercises at kung anu-ano pa pero di din naman gagawin yung kahit ano dun. maraming excuses. hehe. if you want to get better, lay off the keyboard and get on with your drumming. gusto kasi ng tao ata yung madaliang (at madaling) solusyon sa problema e.
@akira jumbo tama ka diyan sir. recently ko lang na-appreciate yung "mastering the cleanliness of sounds" pati yung inuna ko yung basics (rudiments, et al.). siguro kung nagmadali ako nung newbie ako at inunang pumalo at magaral ng kanta kagad mas bulok ako ngayon pumalo. frustrating sa una kasi parang ang bulok kong drummer at wala akong alam na kantang paluin pero nung tumagal mas na-reap ko yung payoff. salamat sa teacher ko. haha.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Helmet on April 25, 2008, 04:44:19 AM
1. Uneven volume ng pagpalo around the kit. 2. Inconsistent timings. Tama, dapat nag-me-met (hindi metathione ha, metronome). 3. Not learning how to tune the drums. 4. Has more time practising hand tricks rather than rudiments. 5. Learning the notion "Faster is better". Paatras kung matuto. 6. Pag may composition yung banda, hala sige kung anu ano ang pinag-gagagawa, quarter-fills lahat!
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Bammbamm on April 25, 2008, 12:37:02 PM
Obsessed with high end gears too soon instead of instructional materials or formal lessons.
Focusing on fast double bass chops instead of mastering the basic rudiments and dynamic playing.
Plays too L O U D with wrong techniques which eventually lead to broken gears, then questions the quality of the gear but never himself or his wrong technique. :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Deemed on April 26, 2008, 12:01:23 PM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. (minsan kasi wala na kong time, hehe.) 3. Not using ear protection. 4. Using old beat-up sticks. (wala kasing pambiling baong sticks, im poor!) 10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums. (whahahahahaha, No Comment!)
Ayun! Sapul ako! Whahahaha! :-D :oops: :roll:
Pahirit pa nga! 1. Malakas pumalo, hindi makontrol ang palo. dahil sa gusto magmukang magaling. 2. Hindi alam ang tamang paghawak sa sticks. (laking connection nito sa number 1. kung mali ang hawak mo sa sticks, hindi kontrolado ang palo mo at ang labas nito ay malakas ang palo and may risk na makasira ka ng gamit.) na-experience ko na to. ask nyo na lang kay kuya jardy(Jamstreet). hehe.. 3. Hindi nagppractice sa bahay, sa jam lang ngpapractice. "kahit walang gamit . kaya gumawa ng paraan. make your own practice pad". 4. faster = better > WRONG! be accurate first!
correct me if i'm wrong, wala kc ako masyadong alam eh. hehe. pasensya na.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: drummerboy827 on April 27, 2008, 09:53:56 AM
I dont get the hitting the edge part of the cymbals.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: drummerboy827 on April 27, 2008, 09:55:40 AM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. 2. Not practicing with a metronome. 3. Not using ear protection 4. Using old beat-up sticks (may cracks/dents/chipped parts, halos napuputol na). Sticks are your main tools, so they shouldn't get in the way of learning the instrument. You're gonna have the best chance of success possible if your tools are working properly. 5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself. 6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. 7. Hitting cymbals directly on the edge thus causing them to crack. 8. Over-filling. Inserting fills where it's not needed or appropriate. Sa desire nilang magmukhang magaling, puro fill na lang ng fill. 9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. 10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
*Which reminds me, I gotta go log-out so I can practice!
Dagdagan nyo na lang...
May mga nakikita ako baguhan, when I tell them to learn rudiments they say "Maya na, kailangan ko gumaling sa set muna"
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: FINGERZAP on April 27, 2008, 11:08:49 AM
I dont get the hitting the edge part of the cymbals.
Bro it's not advisable to hit cymbals directly on their edge. See #1 here (http://www.zildjian.com/EN-US/support/productcare.ad2). Newbies tend to think "anything goes" pagdating sa pagpalo ng cymbals.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: epinephrine_sevenfold on April 29, 2008, 07:14:38 PM
drummer nga wala namang banda (sa ngaun) hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
i hate myself pero natutuwa ako sa sarili ko hehe
Nice one Sir, naaliw ako dun! Hahaha!
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Cris on April 30, 2008, 10:42:55 PM
tinatamad mag-mental counting when playing... hmm umaasa ako maxado sa guitarist ,w/c is wrong kasi diba drums ang parang foundation pag tumutugtog.dapat sila ang naka-rely sa drums pagdating sa timng ect....
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Post by: epinephrine_sevenfold on May 01, 2008, 07:33:15 AM
eh yung pag-papacute habang tumutugtog? hehe sinong guilty?
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Post by: toybitz on May 02, 2008, 04:31:40 AM
playing as loud as he possibly can playing all over the place (just saw a dude hit every tom and cymbal on every line of STP's Plush just to do the same fills in all the songs in their set) - doing fills after every line in a verse an chorus - doing the same fills for every song inappropriately playing double bass not bringing his own set of sticks borrowing other drummer's gear no water supply on stage clipping flingernails just right before a gig
and...
no extra shirt to wear after the set.. :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: epinephrine_sevenfold on May 02, 2008, 09:58:53 AM
playing as loud as he possibly can playing all over the place (just saw a dude hit every tom and cymbal on every line of STP's Plush just to do the same fills in all the songs in their set) - doing fills after every line in a verse an chorus - doing the same fills for every song inappropriately playing double bass not bringing his own set of sticks borrowing other drummer's gear no water supply on stage clipping flingernails just right before a gig
and...
no extra shirt to wear after the set.. :-D
ahhh...... naalala ko tuloy nung novice pa ako haha
although i bring my own sticks and gear i always forgot to bring a shirt, nahihiya akong sumakay ng jeep dahil dun haha, i used to wear eyeliner and paint my nails black haha
sino yung parating dumudugo ang mga daliri pagkatapos ng set noong bago palang sila? hehe
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Post by: toybitz on May 03, 2008, 02:09:54 AM
ako, biniblister parati pagtapos ng gig, nasira na kasi yun gloves ko eh.
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Post by: rockizta123 on May 03, 2008, 09:16:09 AM
nagc-crash ng malakas using the tip ng drumstick... causing it to... break...
after more that 1 year, ang drumstick na gamit ko mula 2nd year nabali na rin... (di ko naman masyadong nagagamit eh, bahista ako! hahaha) nagjam kasi kami kagabi, ok naman palo ko, nung yung ka jam namin pumali talsik ang dulo ng stick... (not only the nylon tip... putol talaga haha)
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Cris on May 04, 2008, 10:31:07 PM
tugtog agad.... nagmamadaling magrock..neey
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: autoexec on May 05, 2008, 07:52:22 AM
Nabobored mag-start ng mabagal, hindi nya alam hindi nya pala kayang gawin yung ginagawa nya pag mabagal ang tempo! :-D
Umaasa madalas sa adrenaline.
Walang dynamics, laging malakas ang palo!
Limited ang pag hinga habang nag da-drums.
Nalilimutan mag warm-up bago tumugtog.
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Post by: achaka on May 05, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
sa mga gig, sa sobrang tense, ang bilis ng tempo. kaya parang naghahabulan yung instruments.
mental block.
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Post by: thegreatone on May 05, 2008, 11:59:12 AM
great list sir! :-)
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Post by: toybitz on May 08, 2008, 12:39:08 PM
humeheadbang paatras..hindi mala pat torpey ah..
yun tipong tuwid ang leeg tapos paatras ang headbang...nakakita ako ng ganito eh..ayun, messed up ang tempo all throughout the set...
...sakit ah, sinubukan ko habang nagtatype.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: epinephrine_sevenfold on May 08, 2008, 10:04:27 PM
pagsunod sa gitara kapag tumututog, its a bad habit... always remember ikaw dapat ang sinusundan, never skip the neccessary fills at covers, and dont add unnecceassary fills especialy at mellow songs
there are rich kid type newbies who buy really expensive equipment but not knowing what they are for, its a waste of money and a bad image, carrying around double pedals when you cover songs from hale and mellow types
there was this kid who once thought i was showing off to him during our set, nagmadali syang umuwi kinuha nya yung stock pedal nya chaka sya nagpaparinig na main pedal nya daw yun.
yung isa naman naka gibraltar intruder sya na double peds pero hale yung covers nila, he never used the slave pedal and consumed too much time setting up
to the newbies; never try to show off, maraming humahanga sa ganung tipo
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: achaka on May 10, 2008, 12:01:18 AM
pagsunod sa gitara kapag tumututog, its a bad habit... always remember ikaw dapat ang sinusundan, never skip the neccessary fills at covers, and dont add unnecceassary fills especialy at mellow songs
there are rich kid type newbies who buy really expensive equipment but not knowing what they are for, its a waste of money and a bad image, carrying around double pedals when you cover songs from hale and mellow types
there was this kid who once thought i was showing off to him during our set, nagmadali syang umuwi kinuha nya yung stock pedal nya chaka sya nagpaparinig na main pedal nya daw yun.
yung isa naman naka gibraltar intruder sya na double peds pero hale yung covers nila, he never used the slave pedal and consumed too much time setting up
to the newbies; never try to show off, maraming humahanga sa ganung tipo
Nuff said bro. di na mapapaganda pa yang sinabi mo. sobrang totoo.
nawitness ko an yung tungkol sa double peds, nagdala nga, kaso di alam gamitin at lalo lang sumagwa ang tunog.
meron pang isa, ginaya yung ginawa ko, kasi pumalpak.
advice lang sa newbies, nanggaling din kasi ako jan. May kanya kanya tayong style at genre. kung simple lang ang kaya mo palang talagang gawin. dun ka nalang muna, hahanga pa ang tao sayo kaysa pilitin mo magpasikat, malalait ka pa. Okay? piece of advice lang naman to, nasasa inyo parin ang decision.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: epinephrine_sevenfold on May 16, 2008, 09:25:19 PM
there are also some newbies who claim to be the best, pinaka kasumpa-sumpa sila!
well eto cguro nasa list: being a liar just to be able to show off; mga ibang newbies mga bastos kinakausap mo ng matino isasagot sayo kasinungalingan!
you know who you are!
nagprapractice pla habang nasa ilalim ng pool ha? kala ko bang tamad kang magpractice? umaatikabong speed your face!
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: 9_spiral on May 16, 2008, 09:43:25 PM
hindi naman sa pagdadamot, pero nakakainis din ung ibang drummers na nanghihiram ng drum gear (usually double peds at cymbals)...ultimo sticks hihiram. ang masama pa dun, dun lang din kayo sa gig na un unang nagkakilala...may pagka-makapal din pala ang pes eh noh.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: mylesthedrummer on May 17, 2008, 11:18:07 PM
Natutuwa ako mga sir sa mga nililista nyo dito ah!
Ako tingin ko pinaka common mistake ng mga newbies eh masyado sarado utak nila to different kinds of music. If you just stick to one genre, yeah gagaling ka nga dun. Pero you don't really add anything new to it. You simply are good with what other drummers have been doing for the longest time. Pero let's say you a rock drummer, with a show band background..isipin mo ang bigat nyo pero ang ladkit ng tunog..Sarap!
:mrgreen:
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Post by: drummerboy827 on May 18, 2008, 06:32:12 PM
HAHAHAHAHA!! Nagpapractice sa ilalim ng pool?!
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Post by: rockizta123 on May 19, 2008, 05:21:24 PM
not learning the basics of drumming... just playing anything he/she can... oo nakakatugtog ka nga kulang pa rin kaalaman mo.. yung mga drum exercises, etc... madali lang tumugtog... pero siyempre kailangan rin talaga ng formal drum lessons... drummer namin ngayon may lessons sa tatay ni drumbi... i forgot he's name, eto drum video niya sa youtube (yung tatay niya ang nagtuturo sa drummer namin ngayon baka kilala nyo hehe) (when he was 7)
(eto siya ngayon)
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Post by: kort_tambolero on May 30, 2008, 01:31:54 PM
ouch.. no formal lesson :(
wala ako nun, expirience lng ngturo sken, wala din ako kit hinahataw ko pillow ko..
den head tones lng gmit ko pra mkatugtog kinig kinig sa music. XD
sbgay tama ka dpt me formal lesson :(
guilty ulet wala ear protection XD kayu meron ba? XD
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: zyncopado on July 30, 2008, 07:52:09 AM
Ang pinagka iba natin sa mga gitarista ay di tayo swapang sa kaalaman natin sa pagtambol. Hanggang ngayon, pag nagkikita kami ng mga kaibigan kong drummers, excited sila maki bahagi ng kaalaman nila sa iyo. At excited din silang maka alam ng bagong technique galing sa iyo.
Ang sakit ng newbie na drummer ay ang katamaran nya mag research. Tulad nga nang nabanggit ninyo, sobrang sarado ang isip ng newbie sa isang uri ng tugtog. Yung iba naman, sobrang taas na ng lipad at di na maka absorb ng tuwid na payo mula sa mga beterano.
Aaminin ko na ang dami kong palpak na pag uugali nung nagsisimula ako. Matigas din ang ulo ko noon.
Nag bago ang pananaw ko sa pagtugtog nang pahiyain ako ng isang beteranong gitarista habang nag ja jam kami. After the jam session, bumanat ang gitarista nang ganito... "hetong si Paco, mahusay ito tumugtog ng rock! Maladkit pumalo!" Syempre... palakpak tenga ako! Sabay sundo't ulit sa lahat ng mga beterano na nasa studio... "...pero wala syang kasing BWAKAW!"
Andoon ako habang sinasabihan nya ko. 17 years old ako nito. Dream come true na maka jam itong mga "legends" na ito. Finally, bumanat ulit si "guitar hero"... nakatingin sa akin.... "alam mo Paco, parang basketball ang jamming! kung ikaw ang point guard at nagdadala ng bola at nakita mong open sa loob ang team mate mo, dapat ipasa mo ang bola! Hwag kang BWAKAW!" Sabay dagdag... "ganon din sa pag tugtog. Pag narinig mong guitar adlib na... pumoste ka. At kapag kumakanta na, pumailalim ka. Kapag climax na, bumanat ka!"
Gusto kong umiyak noon pero pinili kong lunukin ang pride ko. I learned.
Kay Mar Dizon at Benjie "bagets" Mendez ko naman napulot ang ugaling pag re research. Sabi ko dati... idol ko sila. Sabi ni Bagets "idol ko si Colaiuta, bakit di mo i-research kung paano sya tumugtog." From that moment on, tuwing may mapapanood ako or maririnig akong drummer, inaalam ko kung sino ang influence nya. Papakinggan ko ang influence nung drummer na iyon para pag na absorb ko ang influence nya, ibang mutation naman ang execution na magagawa ko. Iwas "cloning" kung baga.
Again, ang isa sa pinaka importante na na stress na din sa thread na ito ay ang pagsasanay sa metronome. Hindi mahirap sumabay sa metronome! Mindset lang yan. Bakit ang gitarista, bahista, keyboardista, bokalista at kung sino sino pa... bakit sila nakaka sabay sa iyo? Ano ang meron sila na WALA tayo? WALA! Naka ulgalian lang nilang sumabay sa atin. So, kung iisipin natin na kailangan nating sumabay sa isang metronome, kailangan lang natin itong pakinggan at sabayan.
WAKAS... :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Peter on July 30, 2008, 08:04:43 AM
pansin ko din 8th note lagi beat nila all throughout the song.
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Post by: papum on July 31, 2008, 02:47:21 PM
@peter
i agree..minsan laging 12th note ang palo sa hihat pero 8th note lang dapat..hhehe..
as a newbie before mali ko is nawawala ako sa metronome ng kanta though minsan hindi naman halata pero me one time talaga na obvious..hehehe..kakahiya.. :-o :|
then me one time na from death metal band ako biglang jump ng showband me isang song akong pinaluan na mental block ako almost at the end of the song bigla akong huminto...waaaaahhh!!! :cry: kahiya na ito!
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Darel on July 31, 2008, 03:02:52 PM
grabe...ouch talaga habang binabasa ang thread na ito...natuto talaga ako sa pagkakamali ko...salamat at may thread na ganito na malilinawan ka...mula ngayon bibili ako ng ear protection ko...hehe bibili na rin ako ng pagkadaming stick hehehe...
salamat mga sir...
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Peter on August 01, 2008, 09:13:33 PM
more on memorization. as in kung ano lang yung pinagaralan na kanta yun lang ang alam.Feeling nila magaling na sila dun. pero kapag hinalo sa ibang banda or pinapalo ng simpleng kanta di na makasabay. kasi hindi talaga inalam yung fundamentals kung kelan gagamitin yung basic fills at beats (4th, 8th, 16th notes). saka hindi pinapraktis yung musicians ear.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: zyncopado on August 01, 2008, 10:10:03 PM
Newbie mistakes...
no rudiment foundation no metronome orientation no ear protection
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Post by: makLoy on August 24, 2008, 08:40:09 PM
eto na siguro pinakamatindi kong mistake:
tinatamaan yung mga mic ng drums..... :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: kimpoy19 on August 25, 2008, 07:07:34 PM
tulad ko, dito sa philmusic, -hindi ko nagagamit yung SEARCH button,(hirap ako maghanap dun :-D) -hindi alam magmetronomes(ako rin) -walang drum proper -drum maintenance -panay hangin -alam lang ay tumugtog -they should learn to tune their drums properly.(depends at the surroundings) -walang focus(yung iba)
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: uglyguy on August 28, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
mistakes ....
not playing with the band ....
walang control ... remember less is more ...
part na ng ang guitar solo ... siya pa din ang papansin ...
at higit sa lahat ... naka simangot sa drumset hahahahaha
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: epinephrine_sevenfold on August 29, 2008, 10:32:20 AM
pagsunod sa gitara kapag tumututog, its a bad habit... always remember ikaw dapat ang sinusundan, never skip the neccessary fills at covers, and dont add unnecceassary fills especialy at mellow songs
there are rich kid type newbies who buy really expensive equipment but not knowing what they are for, its a waste of money and a bad image, carrying around double pedals when you cover songs from hale and mellow types
there was this kid who once thought i was showing off to him during our set, nagmadali syang umuwi kinuha nya yung stock pedal nya chaka sya nagpaparinig na main pedal nya daw yun.
yung isa naman naka gibraltar intruder sya na double peds pero hale yung covers nila, he never used the slave pedal and consumed too much time setting up
to the newbies; never try to show off, maraming humahanga sa ganung tipo
yes bro, dapat ang beats ay sabay ng bass guitar dun sa kalabit nito. :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: jakobspiral on September 01, 2008, 06:30:59 AM
My mistake (since newbie pa lang ako)...
Not realizing the importance of READING DRUM BOOKS.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: lordlors on September 04, 2008, 08:14:29 PM
I would just like to add this:
Not being able to read notes as in like this (I just learned it last weekend but i just played drums for less than 2 years so i'm very glad i learned this): http://www.freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/reading-drum-notation.php (http://www.freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/reading-drum-notation.php) http://www.freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/drum-theory-and-notation.php (http://www.freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/drum-theory-and-notation.php)
to those who are new to drums please visit this site and watch all videos starting from the first one in the top. http://www.freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/ (http://www.freedrumlessons.com/drum-lessons/)
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: bibcute on September 04, 2008, 09:42:07 PM
6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself.
I do really hate people who dont have the guts learning to tune their instruments..!! ive already encountered persons that do always want me to tune their instruments(drums & guitar)
10. Spending more time posting and reading here in Philmusic when they should be practicing their chops! :-D [Edited]
Ouch.. haha
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: thunder_god on September 05, 2008, 08:44:15 AM
learning all rudiments and reading drum notes or pieces. Puros kabisote lng yung iba.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: jieboy on September 07, 2008, 11:04:19 AM
wow mejo guilty aq.. pro dun s no.3, I would not consider having an ear protection... kc nkaka ilang.. hehe.. pro aus lng nman kng mron.. mas safe.. tsaka s no.5, turo sakin ni kuya jamee ng hi-fi indios, mas prefer nya ung hnd mxadong grip s stix.. w/c is effective tlga.. mas bilog ung tunog.. hehe... tnx kuya jamee!!
*No TXT spelling please. -Mod
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: mambo on January 11, 2009, 02:08:08 PM
dating mistakes..pero ngayon iniiiwasan nang gawin. 1. bira nalang ng bira, bahala na sa timing 2. ayaw mag metronome 3. walang ear protection 4. hindi nag papraktis ng rudiments 5.walang control sa volume ng pag drums 6.kulang sa tiwala sa sarili 7. bano sa pagtono 8.maintenance, tamad
hehe nakakahiya man, guilty talaga eh pero hindi na ngayon. netizen level na!haha
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: drumachine on January 19, 2009, 08:26:34 PM
dating mistakes..pero ngayon iniiiwasan nang gawin. 1. bira nalang ng bira, bahala na sa timing 2. ayaw mag metronome 3. walang ear protection 4. hindi nag papraktis ng rudiments 5.walang control sa volume ng pag drums 6.kulang sa tiwala sa sarili 7. bano sa pagtono 8.maintenance, tamad
same here! pero nabawasan na kahit paano. hehe. nagmemetronome na. pero sa cellphone lang. pag may time, bago matulog, rudiments... tsaka nagaaral na magtono. hehe. kala ko ako lang.!
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: IncX on January 20, 2009, 11:49:23 PM
i really dont know how to tune Drums... i read all those instructions, watched tutorials in youtube... wala pa rin.
what i do now, is that i make sure all the lugs are equally tight and i follow that "star pattern" ... i dont care for pitch, i just make sure it sounds good and it doesnt have huge sound discrepancies like "tog" sa left side and "pang" sa right side *lol* ... they pretty much do a "tog" pero hindi ko talaga sila kayang i same sound on all lug corners.
the drum sounds OK to me naman... its not perfect but its good.
is this right? or chances are my drum sound is just WAAAAAYYYY out of tune?
am i in the right thread? *lol*
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: lizsa12 on February 06, 2009, 11:15:54 PM
eto ang pinaka fave kong thread. lahat ng sinasabi nyo, natatamaan ako.. haha!.. well, ayos lang, at least alam kong mali ang ginagawa ko.. and i guess i have to change that. Thanks mga kuya! :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: tranquildomain on February 08, 2009, 06:23:05 PM
Okay mga listahan tama lahat na yan :-D
add ko
-Learn how to read musical notes -Respect to fellow musicians lalo na sa gigs, parang yung nabanggit kakakilala lang eh hiram na almost all of their gears :-o
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: mambo on February 08, 2009, 08:19:55 PM
learn to establish your confidence para simula palang di ka natatakot mag experiment...pero hinay hinay lang kasi baka mayabang na yung dating sa iba, control din.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: stryffe_20 on February 09, 2009, 04:35:19 AM
Hmmm, after reading SOME OF THE posts here... Here's what I thought..
-Overlooking one's self development on drums and while playing drums.. -Watching too much drum lessons that cause one's self to be over concious on how good he / she looks behind the kit / while playing on the kit... -Looking in to too much styles and implementing them all at once -Taking a jump on too many foot techniques that cause sprains and all -No concentration when practicing... -Not spending time on listening to one's self and asking for other's opinion on how well one's self is playing -Not understanding how one's body should move while playing drums -Not accepting mistakes after being informed by others on how one's self would play.
==== I personally hit myself on all these aspects and I'm still correcting at least a few of them now, thankfully because I do record my self on a cell phone.
Remember practice makes perfect. Too much practice makes one dumbfounded.. To eradicate that dumbfoundedness you need to expose yourself and have birds of the same feather listen to how you play. What you look like. And accept Comments wether it is good or bad.
No one improves by perfection alone. Even people who think they are perfect make mistakes.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: dekturrr on February 09, 2009, 10:42:59 AM
newbie miatakes? as in newbie?
wala sa tempo.
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Post by: Litrumboy on February 09, 2009, 01:04:13 PM
in every practice umiiba ang palo :-D
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Post by: piscean on February 10, 2009, 07:33:57 PM
focusing on speed.
mas mahirap tumugtog ng mabagal, pramis. :-D
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Post by: ierofan on February 12, 2009, 08:08:12 PM
enjoy the rudiments. :wink:
http://drumrudiments.com
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Post by: kimpoy19 on February 17, 2009, 11:47:30 PM
be proud, donnot be pride! :-D
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: mambo on February 19, 2009, 12:15:33 AM
nangigigil!
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Post by: stryffe_20 on February 21, 2009, 04:19:04 AM
paltos everywhere on the fingers.. lalo na kapag exited. .
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: musicianurse28 on October 25, 2010, 03:09:51 PM
Tinamaan ako dito :oops: BUHAYIN ang thread! :mrgreen:
And dame kong narealize sa pinost ni ser Paco. Hindi ako newbie in drumming pero may mga traits din ako na sobrang related sa mga "mistakes" na sinasabi niyo. Like cleanliness in playing at pag gamit ng metronome. I realized na worth it buhayin tong thread para maging aware ang mga bagong register dito sa Pinoydrums tulad ko at ng iba pa. Madameng aral dito mga brad! I guess isa tong ginagawa ko sa mga nasimulan ko lang marealize, ang "pag research". Kaya I kept on reading old threads e, laking tulong talaga sa mga may walang hangganang tanong tungkol sa pinili nateng instrumento. Keep on searching, never stop drumming 8-) o tara post pa ng mga "mistakes" :lol: para marame pang matulungan na nagsisimula pa lang. Malaking bagay ito para sateng lahat, newbie o senior man.
Long live drummers! \m/
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: paniska on October 25, 2010, 06:01:04 PM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. 2. Not practicing with a metronome. 3. Not using ear protection 4. Using old beat-up sticks (may cracks/dents/chipped parts, halos napuputol na). Sticks are your main tools, so they shouldn't get in the way of learning the instrument. You're gonna have the best chance of success possible if your tools are working properly. 5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself. 6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. 7. Hitting cymbals directly on the edge thus causing them to crack. 8. Over-filling. Inserting fills where it's not needed or appropriate. Sa desire nilang magmukhang magaling, puro fill na lang ng fill. 9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. 10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
guilty on any of these? nah im adjudicated :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on October 26, 2010, 09:19:46 AM
HAHAHA!!! FLASHBACK AKO DITO AH!!! 1.Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. (GUILTY!!! Metal na metal a ko eh... Kaya palong-palu na ko...) 2.Not practicing with a metronome. (GUILTY!!! Dahil metalcore sound ko... Naiirita ako sa mabagal... With is definitely recommended...) 3.Not using ear protection (GUILTY!!! Kahit sa studiong kulob ang tunog... Which is delikado for drummers... PROTECT THE EARS!!!) 6.Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. (GUILTY!!! Almost 3yrs na kong drummer Kinakapa ko parin ngayon kung pano..) 9.Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. (GUILTY!!! Sarap mag-heel toe basta alam mo basics...) 10.Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! (GUILTY!!! And daming useful info dito eh... dito ko nga lang nalaman ibang terms sa drums...)
Mistakes ko lahat yan... And a huge must have para sa mga noob... ALWAYS HAVE AN EXTEND YOUR PATIENCE!!! <- May short attention span ako eh... Kaya mabilis ako tamarin mag-praktis... Lalo na kapag di ko makuha palo...
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: drummaniac on October 27, 2010, 09:53:15 AM
10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
SAPUL AKO DITO...HAHAHAH....
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: vhinming on October 27, 2010, 11:12:27 AM
10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
SAPUL AKO DITO...HAHAHAH....
but nonetheless, it did helped your overall drumming skills ayt? if you know how to balance everything, it should be alright! :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on October 28, 2010, 12:42:39 PM
1.Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. :-D
OT: Ganito na ko siguro sa snare if ginawa ko rudiments ko... :cry:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: arien_drummer on October 28, 2010, 01:30:29 PM
-una paimpress... later aral. -akala niya ok lang na walang rudiments (dami nang nagsabi nito eh) -Maru-Maru (smart alec, nagmamarunong) -Maangas dahil daw musikero (di pa naman magaling) -"walang metronome? di ko naman kelangan yun eh". (masyadong confident sa time keeping) -ayaw magpaturo. Akala mo alam niya na lahat.
guilty ako sa overfilling minsan.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: geremii on November 20, 2010, 11:16:34 PM
drum rolls and fills kagad gusto aralin. :-D
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Post by: tugprak on May 10, 2011, 10:08:55 AM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. 2. Not practicing with a metronome. 3. Not using ear protection 4. Using old beat-up sticks (may cracks/dents/chipped parts, halos napuputol na). Sticks are your main tools, so they shouldn't get in the way of learning the instrument. You're gonna have the best chance of success possible if your tools are working properly. 5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself. 6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. 7. Hitting cymbals directly on the edge thus causing them to crack. 8. Over-filling. Inserting fills where it's not needed or appropriate. Sa desire nilang magmukhang magaling, puro fill na lang ng fill. 9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. 10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! :-D
*Which reminds me, I gotta go log-out so I can practice!
Dagdagan nyo na lang...
patay tayo jan!
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: rye715 on May 14, 2011, 08:55:00 PM
Time-keeping (consistent beat and time signature throughout the song)
No sense in all with the rudiments and all techniques of your drummer doesn't even know how to keep his beat in time.
Watch this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wBrWaFkAA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_wBrWaFkAA&feature=related)
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Post by: hungryperformance on May 18, 2011, 08:12:10 PM
3. Not using ear protection
-kaya pala bingi na ako :-P
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Post by: cs_mapper on May 19, 2011, 01:55:30 PM
-tamad pagaralan mga nota sa drums!
-don't really develop the weaker hand kaya di kaya mag double stroke sa kaliwang kamay or vice versa.
-nagpaturo sa taong di tunay na drummer. (dito sa pamp my pinapatama ako ditong feeling music school P I sila ginogoyo lang tlga mga bata at mga parents!!!)
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: dreendroid on May 19, 2011, 05:44:53 PM
-nagpaturo sa taong di tunay na drummer. (dito sa pamp my pinapatama ako ditong feeling music school P I sila ginogoyo lang tlga mga bata at mga parents!!!)
wow for real? may ganyan? :-o
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: cs_mapper on May 20, 2011, 01:36:58 PM
oo sir may ganyan dito at active pa yung hinayupak na music school kuno na yun. magaling kasi mambola yung mag-asawa na yun.
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Post by: dreendroid on May 20, 2011, 07:53:00 PM
HAHA. Mga business ngayon noh para lang magkapera. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: trxter41 on May 24, 2011, 02:55:39 AM
lately para akong si mumbles HAPPY FEET. kapag naririnig ko yung "light like to flies" or "before i die" ng mushroomhead o kaya "tsinelas" napapa drums ako. my feet are like stomping on the bass drum like crazy. sana naging drummer na lang ako.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: cristsuper on May 25, 2011, 12:00:45 AM
1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. ...PRESENT!!!hehe puro beat lang ako then rolling un kasi tinuro saken hehe tapos nung nagwatch ako sa youtube ang nagawa q plang flam,drag,flam drag,single stroke roll,single stroke four....yung iba ang hirap i-memorize XD
2. Not practicing with a metronome. ....PRESENT!!wala akong pambili eh hehe pero pnapabili ako nung nagturo sakin...up to now wala pa din akong metronome walang income hehe tsaka canvass muna sa raon XD
3. Not using ear protection ....PRESENT!!dito sa bahay ok lang,pero nung 1st time ko nasa studio kahit audience lang ako tanggal tenga ko eh hehe kasi kung pumapalo ang bigat ng kamay haha XD..
5. Not loosening up. Tense up your grip and you risk injuring yourself. ...PRESENT!!HEHEnung una ung nagturo sakin ng twice lang nka traditional grip ginaya ko ang hirap haha tapos nag watch ako sa youtube tapos kumuha ko ng idea kung anong grip gagamitin ko,then I used match grip american and french grip..
6. Learning how to play but not learning how to tune the instrument itself. ....PRESENTO!!hehe..nagpapatono pa ko dun sa 1 drummer dito samin tapos nung kinalaunan youtube ulit ako ayun!alam ko na hehe kahit papaano :D
7. Hitting cymbals directly on the edge thus causing them to crack. ...sa cymbals ko ok pa naman siya wala pa namang punit hehe
8. Over-filling. Inserting fills where it's not needed or appropriate. Sa desire nilang magmukhang magaling, puro fill na lang ng fill. ..hmmmm d ata ako nagfills puro basa kasi ako ng tabs nung mejo natututo na ko,kahit ngaun minsan pag nagcocover.... XD
9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique. ....AKO din eto hehe
heel up yung ginamit dito diba?gusto ko kasi matuto ng ganyan kabilis >.<
10. Spending more time posting here in Pinoydrums when they should be practicing their chops! grin ...more on surfing,Facebook, MMORPG games, gym hahaha :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: zachki on June 08, 2011, 09:09:44 AM
heres mine...
1. di marunong mag metronome "di marunong gumamit," 2. tamad mag dala ng tshirt 3. marami masyadong fills 4. nagiiba speed 5. masyadong maraming na iimagine na fills, pag inaattempt fail.. i learned that pag big GIG ung tutugtugan nyo,. stick to the routine.. 6. tamad maglinis ng gears.. drumset ko may alikabok na :-D
"darn these lessons from past posts are priceless.. nou philmusic itself is priceless!!"
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: smokoy on June 09, 2011, 12:16:55 AM
boss paturo kung pano gamitin yung metronome
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Post by: zachki on June 09, 2011, 12:46:46 AM
kuya smokoy di rin ako marunong as in wala idea kung paano gamitin.. i tried but i think mali ung pag gamit ko. so i wanna know from masters parehas tayo magpapaturo eehehe
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 09, 2011, 12:51:18 AM
Mahirap magturo ng Metronome dito via chat o PMs.. Mas ok kung personal.. Try youtube kung may makita ka baka mas maintindihan mo.. Tas paturo na lang pag may kakilala na kayong marunong na pwede niyong ma-meet personally.. Good luck :-)
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Post by: zachki on June 09, 2011, 12:53:10 AM
@musicnurse honga po i tried reading some threads pero honestly naguguluhan parin ako... ang weird ng comprehension ko DX
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Post by: smokoy on June 09, 2011, 06:07:15 PM
@zachki ako din nahìhirap. . Nasasabayan ko lng kung dug pak dugdug pak yung beat hehe @musician yung pag gamit nang metron0me together with the band di ko maintindiHan. Dba na babago yung beat sa isang s0ng? I mean pag 200 bpm yung yung biglang bababa sa 100 pano masasabaYAN sa menotron0me yun? Ex. Helena 200 ata yun sa intro at 60bpm sa chorus ty po
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 09, 2011, 08:10:45 PM
@musician yung pag gamit nang metron0me together with the band di ko maintindiHan. Dba na babago yung beat sa isang s0ng? I mean pag 200 bpm yung yung biglang bababa sa 100 pano masasabaYAN sa menotron0me yun? Ex. Helena 200 ata yun sa intro at 60bpm sa chorus ty po
May mga metronome na magaganda talaga, yung tipong lahat ng program mase-save dun.. Halimbawa katulad ng sinasabi mong si Helena nasa 200bpm ang intro, pwede kang mag save ng 200bpm basta katulad lang ng kung ilang measures ang hinihingi ng intro ng kanta.. Tas biglang 60bpm sa bandang chorus na, ganun din may program na naka-save na yung 60bpm pag dumating na sa tamang bilang ng measure..
Mahirap talaga ipaliwanag dito.. Mas ok talaga kung sakali umattend ka na lang ng mga EBs ng Pinoydrums, marame kang makikilala na pwedeng magturo sayo..
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: smokoy on June 09, 2011, 10:26:05 PM
@musician gets ko na po... maraming salamat at naliwanagan din ako.. kasi application lang sa cellphone ang gamit kong metronome java base appz.. iba pala yung tunay na metronome.. anong magandang metronome po..? at mag kano kaya? gusto ku rin sana yang eb sa pinoydrums nakikita ko sa utube. kaso lang taga cebu po ako eh.. hehe.. kaya dito nlang ako tamby.. maraming salamat po ulit
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 10, 2011, 01:05:46 AM
@musician gets ko na po... maraming salamat at naliwanagan din ako.. kasi application lang sa cellphone ang gamit kong metronome java base appz.. iba pala yung tunay na metronome.. anong magandang metronome po..? at mag kano kaya? gusto ku rin sana yang eb sa pinoydrums nakikita ko sa utube. kaso lang taga cebu po ako eh.. hehe.. kaya dito nlang ako tamby.. maraming salamat po ulit
Magandang metronome yung Boss DB-90 Dr.Beat Metronome.. Halos lahat ng pro musician yan ang ginagamit, lalo na ng mga drummer at percussionist.. Kung di ako nagkakamali mga nasa 8k yung mga ganyan.. Pinag-iipunan ko rin yan eh :lol:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: zachki on June 10, 2011, 10:30:24 AM
omg 8k?? darnnn DX ang mahal naman nunnnnnn meron kayang metronome program na ganun sa pc? para install ko nalang sa laptop ko tapos yun nalang dadalin ko XD
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: lianafh on June 10, 2011, 11:25:29 PM
(correct me if i am wrong.) -double pedal agad, e di pa marunong ng hi hat independence. -ilang years na nagda-drums tska pa lang nag-aral ng grannies of drumming(RUDIMENTS).-parang ako!haha -nagmamadali at gigil sa rolling. ayun wala na sa tempo at masakit na ung braso pagkatapos.
ps. i love this thread! XD
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: smokoy on June 12, 2011, 08:40:57 AM
omg 8k?? darnnn DX ang mahal naman nunnnnnn meron kayang metronome program na ganun sa pc? para install ko nalang sa laptop ko tapos yun nalang dadalin ko XD
@zach mer0ng appz na metr0n0me pang pc. . Google lng. .
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: zachki on June 12, 2011, 09:38:12 AM
@smokoy thanks kuya smoks,... di ko na need bili 8k worth metronome... laptop nalang tapos ilalagay ko nlng sya sa bag ko na padded while nag ddrums para khit lumipad stick ko hindi sya masasaktan
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on June 12, 2011, 11:14:58 AM
@TOPIC:
Eto di nalalaos, yung mentality na "SPEED OVER SKILL" sa kahit sinong drummer (on non drummer)... Yung school mate ko na di pa marunong nag-drums nagtanong "marunong ka mag-double peds???" Sagot ko nalang sa kanya "Marunong pero hindi Chris Adler or Joey Jordison" sabay grin :-D "Turuan mo naman ako oh, gusto kong mag blast beats eh" napangiti nalang ako sa kanya...
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: geremii on June 12, 2011, 02:37:53 PM
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1. Not having the patience to learn rudiments. Gusto nila drum set na kaagad. -i just play drum for fun. not to be too professional. pero there will be the time fo this :lol:
2. Not practicing with a metronome. -we are not friends. sorry :-D
3. Not using ear protection - one time i played so loud. kasi tuwang tuwa ako sa tunog nung crash. kaya hardcore crashing! after ng 3 mins lumabo pandinig ko sandali. haha!
guilty of these. :-P
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: archraven_012 on June 13, 2011, 02:37:35 AM
2. Not practicing with a metronome 3. Not using ear protection
- nakakalimutan ko gamitin maski meron ako hahahha
9. Practicing their hand technique but forgetting to practice their foot technique.
- puros kasi tugtog agad gusto ko eh hehehe
parang deed ka na ata mag ingay ulet sa bahay hahahaha....
back to basic pa rin ang maganda para mahasa talaga
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: smokoy on June 14, 2011, 03:54:57 PM
try ko mag bAck To bASIC. . Rudiments muna. . Ty sa inyo
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: jherockers on June 25, 2011, 07:27:01 PM
GUILTY SA LAHAT ng nakalista haha. meron pang humabol nangigigil. parang may galit sa cymbals kung pumalo. pero ngayon medyo chill na pumalo. hehe share lang. natuwa ako sa thread na to e. salamat sa mga tips.
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: p0oh_22 on June 25, 2011, 07:44:06 PM
guilty din ako sa lahat ng sinabi niyo!! ahahaha! :D ang hirap tuloy magpraktis ng rudiments...xD naka sanayan na din kasi...xD
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: zachki on June 25, 2011, 09:18:39 PM
rudiments practice din ako... coached by master p0oh_22 sobrang basic ng ginagawa pero nahihirapan ako waaaahh.. ou well DX
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: p0oh_22 on June 26, 2011, 03:22:49 PM
mistake din po ba kapag... di ka pa pro sa single peds pero habang pinapractice mo sinasabay mo na ung kaliwa to prepare for double peds?
nope. keep that attitude up. you'll go a long way. :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: ratatat on August 27, 2011, 09:45:56 PM
Tanong lng po, san po ba dapat pinapalo yung cymbals like crashes, chinas, hats and splashes? madalas kc napapalo ko sa edge e.. pero buti ala pa namang crack.. hehe.. chaka anu po ung parang earphone na suot ni vic mercado pag tumutugtog sya? un po ba ung isolation earphones? anu2x naririnig don? beats? haha... Sorry sa mga tanong, newbie lang po kasi ako sa drum hardwares and accesories, puro kasi tugtog inaatupag ko without knowing the parts and uses e.. Hope you guys help me.. CHEERS! :))
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: Riff_6603 on November 07, 2011, 05:57:47 PM
Tanong lng po, san po ba dapat pinapalo yung cymbals like crashes, chinas, hats and splashes? madalas kc napapalo ko sa edge e.. pero buti ala pa namang crack.. hehe.. chaka anu po ung parang earphone na suot ni vic mercado pag tumutugtog sya? un po ba ung isolation earphones? anu2x naririnig don? beats? haha... Sorry sa mga tanong, newbie lang po kasi ako sa drum hardwares and accesories, puro kasi tugtog inaatupag ko without knowing the parts and uses e.. Hope you guys help me.. CHEERS! :))
best to hit the cymbal where it would sound best and effective, as cliche as it may sound. here's an illustration as to where to best hit a cymbal depending on the sound your after:
yung parang headphones pala na suot ni vic ay isolation earphones. as the name states, it isolates any unecessary noise giving the player a clearer sound perspective PLUS hindi ka pa mabibingi since it acts as your hearing protection from unecessary noise. certain models come with audio capabilities na pwede mo isaksak sa metronome to maintain proper timing while playing. :wink:
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: musicianurse28 on November 07, 2011, 06:12:39 PM
best to hit the cymbal where it would sound best and effective, as cliche as it may sound. here's an illustration as to where to best hit a cymbal depending on the sound your after:
yung parang headphones pala na suot ni vic ay isolation earphones. as the name states, it isolates any unecessary noise giving the player a clearer sound perspective PLUS hindi ka pa mabibingi since it acts as your hearing protection from unecessary noise. certain models come with audio capabilities na pwede mo isaksak sa metronome to maintain proper timing while playing. :wink:
OT: Yan si master Riff! :-D Nakakamiss talaga itong PhilMusic.. Buti nakabalik na :-)
Thanks brader Riff for always updating.. Thanks sir Jim for bringing it back.. :-)
Title: Re: Newbie mistakes???
Post by: tom_morelo2001 on November 07, 2011, 08:42:57 PM
malimit nman ako sa mga pause,minsan napapasobra palagi,pero nag uumpisa palang naman ako hhe,alin rudiments kaya angdabest na ma perfect?salamat PhilMusic at bumalik kana!!!!