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Title: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 14, 2012, 04:25:11 PM
I've always wanted to be loyal to Nikon. As much as possible I want to avoid buying 3rd party lenses and accessories. I was told in a workshop I attended to avoid 3rd party lenses. But Nikkor lenses are just too darn expensive. I recently applied in a company specializing in weddings that are Nikon users and they're asking me if I'm willing to buy an all-around zoom f2.8 lens. Since I'm a DX user, they told me to get the Nikkor 17-55mm f2.8.

I was browsing Facebook a while ago and I came across dbgadgets. They're selling Tamron & Sigma 17-50mm f2.8's and it's a LOT CHEAPER than the Nikkor 17-55. I think it only costs around 18,500 for the Tamron. The Sigma almost the same price. Whereas the Nikkor costs around 57,000 bucks! I'm leaning towards the Tamron because i've been hearing a lot of negative stuff about Sigma. Has anybody tried using that Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 VC? I wanna get it coz it's cheaper but I'm afraid I might not get quality photos from that lens.

Anybody?
Title: Re: 3rd party lenses. Your thoughts.
Post by: raginghormones on November 14, 2012, 05:53:36 PM
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I was told in a workshop I attended to avoid 3rd party lenses.

not necessarily. some are good while some are really a bust. but avoiding 3rd party lenses will drain your wallet and limit your potential and creativity as a photographer.

tamron 17-50 is a pretty decent lens. try the non VC one, it's much sharper than the one with VC.
Title: Re: 3rd party lenses. Your thoughts.
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on November 14, 2012, 06:11:09 PM
My thoughts. In sharpness, your Nikkor 18-105 f3.5 screwed up my Sigma 70-200 2.8. SRSLY. I won't be trying any more Sigma in the future, but I MIGHT try a Tamron. Or really save up for old Nikkors.
Title: Re: 3rd party lenses. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 14, 2012, 07:11:20 PM
not necessarily. some are good while some are really a bust. but avoiding 3rd party lenses will drain your wallet and limit your potential and creativity as a photographer.

tamron 17-50 is a pretty decent lens. try the non VC one, it's much sharper than the one with VC.

Thanks. I'll try to look into that.

My thoughts. In sharpness, your Nikkor 18-105 f3.5 screwed up my Sigma 70-200 2.8. SRSLY. I won't be trying any more Sigma in the future, but I MIGHT try a Tamron. Or really save up for old Nikkors.

Yep, I really wanna get that Nikkor lens. But it's just too darn expensive.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: tejadster on November 15, 2012, 04:58:53 PM
iba pa rin yung brand ng camera mo eh if gagastos ka rin naman ng malaking halaga get the best na. keysa mag sisi ka sa huli na bumili ka ng mas mura na equivalent.

hindi naman magiging mas mura ang third party kung meron siyang pagkukulang vs. sa brand ng camera mo.

onti tiis lang sa ipon, worth it naman yan.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: raginghormones on November 15, 2012, 05:53:10 PM
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iba pa rin yung brand ng camera mo eh if gagastos ka rin naman ng malaking halaga get the best na. keysa mag sisi ka sa huli na bumili ka ng mas mura na equivalent.

hindi naman magiging mas mura ang third party kung meron siyang pagkukulang vs. sa brand ng camera mo.

onti tiis lang sa ipon, worth it naman yan.

di naman porke brand na ng canon or nikon e the best na. sa camera siguro pero sa lens hindi lahat patok. like for example uwa's. i'd take tokina 11-16 2.8 anytime to nikkor 10-24 or 12-24. that tokina is really really good, abot kaya hindi katulad nung 2 nikkor, mahal na di pa fixed aperture. sulit and irerecommenda ko talaga yang lens na yan.

not all cases din ng 3rd party lenses e magaganda. gaya nung nabili kong sigma 24-70 2.8 ex dg macro. sobrang lugi. what i got was a bad copy ika nga. hindi sharp kahit na anong technique gawin ko. pangit pa kulay. pinacalibrate ko pa sa sigma makati. wala ganun din after. binenta ko na lang. since that i stayed away na sa sigma brand. ung 70-200 nila natest ko hindi din ako ganun kaimpressed compared sa counterpart na nikkor. malayo talaga.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: plissken on November 15, 2012, 06:11:33 PM
There are only quite a few 3rd party lenses that can give level of IQ against the manufacturer lens. Also there are calibration issues that come with them which has to be corrected by the manufacturer.

Good thing there are a lot of review sites that you could check out which conduct objective testing of there lenses. You can already know how the lenses would perform and would help you decide whether or not the lens will suit you with regards to your expected IQ outputs and budget.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on November 16, 2012, 02:10:55 AM
di naman porke brand na ng canon or nikon e the best na. sa camera siguro pero sa lens hindi lahat patok. like for example uwa's. i'd take tokina 11-16 2.8 anytime to nikkor 10-24 or 12-24. that tokina is really really good, abot kaya hindi katulad nung 2 nikkor, mahal na di pa fixed aperture. sulit and irerecommenda ko talaga yang lens na yan.

not all cases din ng 3rd party lenses e magaganda. gaya nung nabili kong sigma 24-70 2.8 ex dg macro. sobrang lugi. what i got was a bad copy ika nga. hindi sharp kahit na anong technique gawin ko. pangit pa kulay. pinacalibrate ko pa sa sigma makati. wala ganun din after. binenta ko na lang. since that i stayed away na sa sigma brand. ung 70-200 nila natest ko hindi din ako ganun kaimpressed compared sa counterpart na nikkor. malayo talaga.

Tokina FTW and there's this another lens that begins with H------. I Dont remember but ive read a lot of reviews about it saying it is sharp. No problem with those 3rd parties perhaps but im definitely staying away from Sigmas.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: gainsucker on November 16, 2012, 05:13:04 PM
had a Tokina 50 135mm f2.8 and a Sigma 30mm f1.4

Tokina was ok, Sigma had focusing issues... but if you have the money, buy Nikon. iba pa rin talaga.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Helmet on November 16, 2012, 06:20:51 PM
why not open your options to vintage lenses? for USD100, you can get 3-4 lenses which, with the right technique, can give you the same results as Canon's / Nikkor's.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 17, 2012, 10:10:22 AM
why not open your options to vintage lenses? for USD100, you can get 3-4 lenses which, with the right technique, can give you the same results as Canon's / Nikkor's.

What kind of vintage lens would you recommend?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Helmet on November 17, 2012, 04:35:58 PM
What kind of vintage lens would you recommend?

For starters...
Helios 44m-2 or 44m-7
Jupiter-9
SMC Takumar
Rokkor's
Zeiss (expensive)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on November 18, 2012, 07:57:02 PM
I have Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 nonVC luckily its a good copy. when buying make sure to test it well enough.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: rennell on November 19, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
di naman porke brand na ng canon or nikon e the best na. sa camera siguro pero sa lens hindi lahat patok. like for example uwa's. i'd take tokina 11-16 2.8 anytime to nikkor 10-24 or 12-24. that tokina is really really good, abot kaya hindi katulad nung 2 nikkor, mahal na di pa fixed aperture. sulit and irerecommenda ko talaga yang lens na yan.

the Tokina 11-16 is the only choice for Nikon DX users who wants an UWA. Haha!
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: raginghormones on November 19, 2012, 10:42:21 AM
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the Tokina 11-16 is the only choice for Nikon DX users who wants an UWA. Haha!

e syempre sir ung king ng uwa's, nikkkor 14-24 e pang fx lang yun hehe
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: MayhemKid on November 19, 2012, 12:20:25 PM
Never tried a 3rd party on my end. Canon lenses kasi are not that expensive compared to nikon's. Anyways, each has its own edge naman, that's why online reviews are there to back you up before buying an equipment. its better din siguro if you have friend na merong third party lenses so you can have a feel of what it is maybe even better if your friend has the lens you're eyeing for. Just pray for a good copy nalang kasi kahit naman nikon or canon lenses minsan sumasablay rin talaga so you can never be so sure. but all in all it all depends on the composition and eye. sabi nga nung friend ko "your lens is a tool, no matter how expensive it is, if you don't know how to use it right, it's worth nothing."
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 19, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
I have Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 nonVC luckily its a good copy. when buying make sure to test it well enough.

Uy nice bro. Sana pwede kong ma-try yang lens mo. Phased out na ba yan? Parang yung mga VC nalang nakikita kong binebenta eh.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on November 20, 2012, 04:10:22 PM
meron pa ata boss. kay jeptall and kim meron pa. mas ok talaga non vc and mas mura pa  :mrgreen:
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 20, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
meron pa ata boss. kay jeptall and kim meron pa. mas ok talaga non vc and mas mura pa  :mrgreen:

How much score mo sayo? Kamusta naman yung build quality?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on November 20, 2012, 04:56:22 PM
10k :) sa tpc ko lang nakuha bro.. ok naman pag ka plastic build nya. tapos sarap ng feel pag ngzoom ka kasi medyo stiff hindi zoom kagad. namili ako sa kanila nung 28-75mm tamron kasi may macro function pero i decided to still go with the 17-50mm habol ko rin ung extra wide.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 20, 2012, 05:24:33 PM
I see. Sharp naman mga kuha nya? May mga sample shots ka from your 17-50mm? Tingin naman...
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: rennell on November 21, 2012, 03:04:18 AM
e syempre sir ung king ng uwa's, nikkkor 14-24 e pang fx lang yun hehe

problem with that lens is that it is not landscape-friendly. :)) Hassle sa filters :D
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: ddefy on November 21, 2012, 09:05:34 PM
e syempre sir ung king ng uwa's, nikkkor 14-24 e pang fx lang yun hehe
nikkor 14-24mm f2.8 is also compatible to dx camera, pero masyado siya malaki para sa dx, hindi balanse. imo
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: raginghormones on November 21, 2012, 09:47:56 PM
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problem with that lens is that it is not landscape-friendly. ) Hassle sa filters

pano mukhang fisheye yung harap di nalalagyan ng filters haha  :lol:

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nikkor 14-24mm f2.8 is also compatible to dx camera, pero masyado siya malaki para sa dx, hindi balanse. imo

pwede nga sir pero gagastos ka ng napakamahal na uwa para lang gamitin sa crop body tapos magvivignette lang.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on November 22, 2012, 12:00:05 AM
I see. Sharp naman mga kuha nya? May mga sample shots ka from your 17-50mm? Tingin naman...

(http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee26/acemustaine/sample.jpg)
@2.8  :)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on November 22, 2012, 09:17:12 AM
^^^ Nice. Ganda. :-D No post-processing done dito?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on November 22, 2012, 11:35:37 AM
watermark lang sir  :)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 17, 2013, 06:26:07 PM

well sigma are ain't that bad sir Kurtcobainer recently got a sigma 28m 1.8 im happy with the performance.
tapat tapat lng siguro if bad copy or good copy and its not bad to use 3rd party lens if you want Sharper images wna tinalbugan ang Nikon and canon sa sharpness sa catergory look for sigma 35m 1.4 ng sigma natalo nya sa review ang nikon and Canon sa mga 35m. specialy bokeh nya creamy plus budget Friendly.

i myself a user ng 3rd party lens isa sa main UWA ko is Rokinon 14m its pretty sharp to me though its a manual focus

if your looking sir kurtcobainer ng mga old nikkor Lenses na sharp try mo maka iscore ng 24-85 2.8 its a good glass or try 35-70 2.8
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 18, 2013, 11:57:53 AM
well sigma are ain't that bad sir Kurtcobainer recently got a sigma 28m 1.8 im happy with the performance.
tapat tapat lng siguro if bad copy or good copy and its not bad to use 3rd party lens if you want Sharper images well sa mga nabsa ko na tinalbugan na ng Sigma ang Nikon and canon sa sharpness sa catergory look for sigma 35m 1.4 ng sigma natalo nya sa review ang nikon and Canon sa mga 35m. specialy bokeh nya creamy plus budget Friendly.

i myself a user ng 3rd party lens isa sa main UWA ko is Rokinon 14m its pretty sharp to me though its a manual focus

if your looking sir kurtcobainer ng mga old nikkor Lenses na sharp try mo maka iscore ng 24-85 2.8 its a good glass or try 35-70 2.8
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: bagit0 on January 19, 2013, 03:25:54 PM
mga sir what do you think of a Tamron AF 18-200mm F/3.5-6.3 XR Di II? Is it a nice lens? Baka may mga nakagamit na jan, baka pwede mashare ang mga experiences  :-\ Or baka may masuggest kayong ibang lens with the same qualities AND price range. hehe.. as I dont have that luxury for lens as of yet  :nosebleed: Thanks
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on January 19, 2013, 10:10:27 PM
I made a pass on the Tammy 17-50mm. Took in a Nikkor 35mm f1.8 DX instead. Now waiting for my Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 coming this March :) I'm still skeptic about the Tammy.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 20, 2013, 10:29:52 AM
I made a pass on the Tammy 17-50mm. Took in a Nikkor 35mm f1.8 DX instead. Now waiting for my Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 coming this March :) I'm still skeptic about the Tammy.

nice one SIr Kurtcobainer 35m 1.8 is a good lens worth every penny sharp and light good i've use it before with D300s and I love it good choice din yung tokina 11-16.. 2.8 yan din ang choices ko sa mga wide anglelens nung nsa DX format pa ako
kso nanaig yung 14mm rokinon kse i need something na pag nag switch ako FX magagamit ko hehehe sample Photos naman jan Sir KURTcobainer ENjoy shoot SIR!
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on January 21, 2013, 02:30:23 PM
nice one SIr Kurtcobainer 35m 1.8 is a good lens worth every penny sharp and light good i've use it before with D300s and I love it good choice din yung tokina 11-16.. 2.8 yan din ang choices ko sa mga wide anglelens nung nsa DX format pa ako
kso nanaig yung 14mm rokinon kse i need something na pag nag switch ako FX magagamit ko hehehe sample Photos naman jan Sir KURTcobainer ENjoy shoot SIR!

Inaantay ko pa bro dumating :)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 21, 2013, 03:58:55 PM
Inaantay ko pa bro dumating :)
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Hehe Ayos Cool yan
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on January 31, 2013, 04:29:57 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/552771_570207803008021_824158524_n.jpg)

Eto na yung isa! Will post pics soon.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: spadettie on January 31, 2013, 07:16:30 PM
ayos yan sir, post ka sample pics ha. :)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 02, 2013, 04:39:30 AM
YEHEY!! NEw baby ahh pic pics may teaser ka pa hehehe :-)!

Counted ba sa thread na to ang question na Sino dito na meron ng korean lenses like Rokinon,samyang,Vivitar???
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Helmet on February 08, 2013, 11:48:45 PM
Baka po may Samyang 35mm kayo... benta nyo na sakin  :oops:
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on February 12, 2013, 10:34:53 AM
YEHEY!! NEw baby ahh pic pics may teaser ka pa hehehe :-)!

Counted ba sa thread na to ang question na Sino dito na meron ng korean lenses like Rokinon,samyang,Vivitar???

Saw these lenses at Photoworld Asia. Sayang lang walang mga demo lens.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 12, 2013, 11:41:42 AM
Saw these lenses at Photoworld Asia. Sayang lang walang mga demo lens.

meron kase ako ng korean lens hehe
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on February 12, 2013, 01:56:18 PM
meron kase ako ng mga korean lens hehe

Ano-ano? Nikon mount? What kind of lenses? Post a review bro. May 15-70mm f2.8 ba?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 12, 2013, 02:22:46 PM
Ano-ano? Nikon mount? What kind of lenses? Post a review bro. May 15-70mm f2.8 ba?
sorry mali ang type ko hndi pala marami isa lang sir Kurtcobainer

Nikon MOunt Rokinon 14m 2.8 with UMC
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Rokinon-14mm-f-2-8-F2-8-Lens-for-Nikon-D700-D300S-D3100-D5100-D7000-DSLR-Camera-/00/s/MjY1WDMwMA==/$T2eC16h,!zcE9s4g4wI-BQuR-g4dQg~~60_35.JPG
yan ang image nya.

3 bagay lang ang characteristics na downfall nya but when it comes to sharpness hindi na siya nalalayo sa 14-24. ng Nikon
1. manual Focus
2.Distortion
3. Filter thread

ang hirap mag landscape photo especially if sunrise need mo talaga gumamit ng mga ND filters lalu na tanghaling tapat di ka makapag Slow shutter so yan down fall nya then sa distortion matindi din ang distortion nya but magagawan mo ng paraan thru lightroom but sometimes kse yung pag ka distor ng image is nakakatulong minsan nakakasama dipende sa gusto mong composition

1yr na din na sakin itong Rokinon overall sakin okey na itong 14m rokinon kse sa price nya its a good performer and hindi ko na problema ngayon ang Filter system may bago ng labas ngayon last year lang siya ni release Filter system dedicated for this type of lens though half of the price ng Filter system is the lens price but still its a worth a buck para skin.. yan review ko hehehe
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on February 12, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
Nice, thanks. I should try one these lenses. Maka-bisita nga sa Hidalgo this weekend. Baka meron dun.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 12, 2013, 02:31:59 PM
Nice, thanks. I should try one these lenses. Maka-bisita nga sa Hidalgo this weekend. Baka meron dun.

note its good to use in FX format kse sa DX di ka masisiyahan kse when i bought it naka D7000 ako di ako masiyahan sa field of view though wide na sya compare from my other lenses sa DX ko nun but nung nakapag upgrade ako D700 mas na pa Wow ako sa field of view sa view finder ko well suggestion lng naman kanya kanya pa din tau  :-D :-D

and para may IDEA ka ng Filter Holder system ng ganyan lens eto sshare ko sau image ng gear ko just got that Filter holder straight from US last monday so Di ko pa na ttest mag shoot with these Filter holder and i am waiting for my Filters as well  :-D :-D :-D
(http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae223/toinkking/image.jpeg)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on February 12, 2013, 02:40:17 PM
note its good to use in FX format kse sa DX di ka masisiyahan kse when i bought it naka D7000 ako di ako masiyahan sa field of view though wide na sya compare from my other lenses sa DX ko nun but nung nakapag upgrade ako D700 mas na pa Wow ako sa field of view sa view finder ko well suggestion lng naman kanya kanya pa din tau  :-D :-D

and para may IDEA ka ng Filter Holder system ng ganyan lens eto sshare ko sau image ng gear ko just got that Filter holder straight from US last monday so Di ko pa na ttest mag shoot with these Filter holder and i am waiting for my Filters as well  :-D :-D :-D
(http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/ae223/toinkking/image.jpeg)

If magla-landscape photography ako, what filter should I use?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 12, 2013, 02:50:52 PM
If magla-landscape photography ako, what filter should I use?

More on beach ka ba at mga Rock or waterfall kung yun kase kukuhanan mo better get ND filters tsaka color intensifier
but ako kse ang plan ko set up its my own preference ahh kse yun ang nakikita problema pag naka 10 Stop ka is yung blue cast ng 10 stop Filters so para mabawasan ko ynug Blue cast nya at magenta get a warming filter so yan set up ko na binubuo meron na ako 10 stop yung warming parating plang umorder plang ako hehehe so yan set up ko but dipende kse kung ano landscape kukuhanan mo pag sa forest ka like running water get color intersifier never tried but un nasa isip ko
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on February 12, 2013, 02:52:50 PM
More on beach ka ba at mga Rock or waterfall kung yun kase kukuhanan mo better get ND filters tsaka color intensifier
but ako kse ang plan ko set up its my own preference ahh kse yun ang nakikita problema pag naka 10 Stop ka is yung blue cast ng 10 stop Filters so para mabawasan ko ynug Blue cast nya at magenta get a warming filter so yan set up ko na binubuo meron na ako 10 stop yung warming parating plang umorder plang ako hehehe so yan set up ko but dipende kse kung ano landscape kukuhanan mo pag sa forest ka like running water get color intersifier never tried but un nasa isip ko

Nope, mga structures (buildings, etc). Pero itra-try ko sya sa Feb. 21 sa Hot Air Balloon Festival.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 12, 2013, 02:59:12 PM
Nope, mga structures (buildings, etc). Pero itra-try ko sya sa Feb. 21 sa Hot Air Balloon Festival.

Kung mga Buildings try mo polarizer if buildings para maalis mo glaring from sun
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on February 12, 2013, 03:21:07 PM
Kung mga Buildings try mo polarizer if buildings para maalis mo glaring from sun

Thanks bro!
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 12, 2013, 03:55:43 PM
Thanks bro!

No Problem! glad to helP!
Title: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: peeves24 on February 14, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
YEHEY!! NEw baby ahh pic pics may teaser ka pa hehehe :-)!

Counted ba sa thread na to ang question na Sino dito na meron ng korean lenses like Rokinon,samyang,Vivitar???

the rokinon/samyang 85mm 1.4 is the bomb. beats nikon 85mm 1.4 afd in both sharpness and bokeh. i sold my samyang already because im going FX, then i found out a day after the sale that the samyang can do FX 😳


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Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on February 14, 2013, 06:05:26 PM
the rokinon/samyang 85mm 1.4 is the bomb. beats nikon 85mm 1.4 afd in both sharpness and bokeh. i sold my samyang already because im going FX, then i found out a day after the sale that the samyang can do FX 😳


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Tugpak sad to hear that ako i buy it para sa fx na din para pag nag upgrade ako sa fx i have lens to use is a great lens good for a buck
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: chip on May 20, 2013, 02:51:44 PM
ang una kong 3rd party lens ay yung 11-16 2.8 na tokina.
sa kagustuhan kong mag ka wide binili ko to at inilagay sa d90.
Bad trip ako sa lens na to sa unang test ko, indi nagfofocus lagi sa subject pag AF
siguro 1/10 lang ang nasa focus laging yung BG lang ang nakafocus.
pag MF wala naman problem.
nagsearch ako ng info about d2 marami palang may ganitong problema.
Since bakasyon noon habang naghihintay ako ng reply sa binilhan ko kinalikot ko lang ng kinalikot yung body. Dun ko nalaman na kelangan naka on yung AF-assist illuminator para magfocus  :-o
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: CeL1916 on January 07, 2014, 04:10:26 AM
So alin ang most bang for the buck at consistent 3rd party lenses na brand?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 08, 2014, 11:59:22 AM
So alin ang most bang for the buck at consistent 3rd party lenses na brand?

@Cel1916

it depends what kind of lens ang hinahanap mo different brand have different feedbacks but in my own opinion i'd go for Rokinon = Samyang and Sigma :-) both manufacturer's i have a lens. so far i am happy with its performance
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: CeL1916 on January 08, 2014, 01:31:42 PM
@Cel1916

it depends what kind of lens ang hinahanap mo different brand have different feedbacks but in my own opinion i'd go for Rokinon = Samyang and Sigma :-) both manufacturer's i have a lens. so far i am happy with its performance

Ah ok thanks sir, im thinking an all around walk around lens, maybe an 18-200mm.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 13, 2014, 04:51:22 PM
Ah ok thanks sir, im thinking an all around walk around lens, maybe an 18-200mm.

Try looking In tamron they are more cheaper in sigma and tokina
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: CeL1916 on January 14, 2014, 05:10:13 AM
Try looking In tamron they are more cheaper in sigma and tokina
Thanks, actually  i did research and yes im thinking of getting a tamron. :-D
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: randymarsh on January 29, 2014, 03:27:25 PM
i'm a nikon shooter and i have a mix of tamron, sigma and nikon lenses in my collection. after getting proper photography lessons, i'm disposing most of my nikon dx, tamron and sigma lenses except for the nikkor fx lenses that i have. pansin ko na hindi nga sila kasing talas ng nikkor. now i'm building a proper collection of lenses. i'm acquiring the nikon holy trinity and king of bokehs. and because of this, i;m selling some of my guitars.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: kurtcobainer on January 30, 2014, 11:48:05 AM
i'm a nikon shooter and i have a mix of tamron, sigma and nikon lenses in my collection. after getting proper photography lessons, i'm disposing most of my nikon dx, tamron and sigma lenses except for the nikkor fx lenses that i have. pansin ko na hindi nga sila kasing talas ng nikkor. now i'm building a proper collection of lenses. i'm acquiring the nikon holy trinity and king of bokehs. and because of this, i;m selling some of my guitars.

As of the moment, the only 3rd party lens I have is the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 Ver. 1. Why? Because, I think it's better than Nikon's UWA lens. Other than that, it's all Nikon glass. I also sold, most of my guitar gear to get Nikkor lenses. But I'm not really planning on completing the trinity. Just the 24-70 f2.8. I already have the Nikkor AF 80-200mm f2.8D ED and it works for me since I only shoot events and weddings not fast action stuff. Right now, I want to have an all-prime set. Nikkor's 20/35/50/85mm lenses. But I doubt, I can complete them. Hehehe.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on January 30, 2014, 12:46:40 PM
As of the moment, the only 3rd party lens I have is the Tokina 11-16 f2.8 Ver. 1. Why? Because, I think it's better than Nikon's UWA lens. Other than that, it's all Nikon glass. I also sold, most of my guitar gear to get Nikkor lenses. But I'm not really planning on completing the trinity. Just the 24-70 f2.8. I already have the Nikkor AF 80-200mm f2.8D ED and it works for me since I only shoot events and weddings not fast action stuff. Right now, I want to have an all-prime set. Nikkor's 20/35/50/85mm lenses. But I doubt, I can complete them. Hehehe.


Nice cool set of lenses hehehe well me nag step back muna ako for camera gear. Puro shoot lang muna lumalayo muna ko sa lens kse mas pinag tutuunan ko ng pansin yung panorama set up ko nag ssave up ako so im still using my 3rd party lens like 28m sigma and 14m rokinon ang nikorr ko lang is yung 50m ko :-)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: raginghormones on January 31, 2014, 08:02:29 AM
Disposed my sigma 50 1.4..sayang pero ok na din bumalik ako kay old nifty fifty nikkor 50 1.8d to complement his big brother nikkor 70-200 hehe  :-D
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: coy_2cute on January 31, 2014, 08:50:24 AM
I have owned and tried those old Tokinas ( 28-80 f2.8, 12-24 f4, 50-135 f2.8 ) back when I still have my Nikon D300. Pretty decent IQ and sharpness especially with the 50-135 f2.8. Image is soft and chromatic aberration is noticeable with 28-80 f2.8
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: randymarsh on February 07, 2014, 06:09:25 AM
problema sa non oem brands ay ang baba ng resale value. bentang palugi talaga pag tamron, sigma, tokina at samyang  <_<
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: randymarsh on February 12, 2014, 06:04:51 PM
sold all my third party lenses except for my 70-200 f/2.8 sigma but will be selling it soon and replace it with a nikkor vrii of the same range

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7302/12469432303_4f934df173_c_d.jpg)

 :-D
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: coy_2cute on February 12, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
^ yaman!  :) kumpletuhin na ang trinity lens!
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: randymarsh on March 20, 2014, 06:39:33 AM
^ yaman!  :) kumpletuhin na ang trinity lens!

kumpleto na!  :-D

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/12823653243_a1d54b42fa_d.jpg)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: tonwins11 on April 10, 2014, 07:26:15 AM
Pa OT:

Hi guys, I'm a newbie sa photography. Just 2 weeks ago, I bought my first DSLR. I bought an entry level DSLR which is a Nikon D3100. The kitlens does the job (landscape, seascape, cityscape, etc.) but I'm planning to shoot portrait with a nice creamy background bokeh. Someone is selling me a cheap Nikon 50mm 1.8d. The problem is that my cam will not autofocus on AF D lenses. So my resort would be is to manually focus it. Madali lang ba yung manual focusing nito to take sharp foreground and blurry background? or is it a PITA?

Anyway, the cheap price is 2000Php. Should I go for it?

Thanks.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on April 10, 2014, 08:20:59 AM
Pa OT:

Hi guys, I'm a newbie sa photography. Just 2 weeks ago, I bought my first DSLR. I bought an entry level DSLR which is a Nikon D3100. The kitlens does the job (landscape, seascape, cityscape, etc.) but I'm planning to shoot portrait with a nice creamy background bokeh. Someone is selling me a cheap Nikon 50mm 1.8d. The problem is that my cam will not autofocus on AF D lenses. So my resort would be is to manually focus it. Madali lang ba yung manual focusing nito to take sharp foreground and blurry background? or is it a PITA?

Anyway, the cheap price is 2000Php. Should I go for it?

Thanks.


@tonwins11

Ang 50m 1.8 is a good lens to buy you cannot go wrong with it but since u are using a crop sensor save up and buy 35m 1.8 it git af compatibility with ur body plus its designed for crop sensors i'm not a portrait shooter so no idea in shooting manual focus for portraits so i can't help you with that but if you gonna ask me shooting manual lens in a landscapes i can say yes its not bad ahooting in manual as i myself uses manual lens for seascapes and milky ways shoots
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: tonwins11 on April 10, 2014, 09:12:45 AM

@tonwins11

Ang 50m 1.8 is a good lens to buy you cannot go wrong with it but since u are using a crop sensor save up and buy 35m 1.8 it git af compatibility with ur body plus its designed for crop sensors i'm not a portrait shooter so no idea in shooting manual focus for portraits so i can't help you with that but if you gonna ask me shooting manual lens in a landscapes i can say yes its not bad ahooting in manual as i myself uses manual lens for seascapes and milky ways shoots

Thank you toinkking. I'm worried lang kasi since they were designed for motorized body to focus and get sharp photos (fast) pero baka mahirap gawin ito in manual focus mode or maybe it will really take time for me to get adjust eh mababagot na yung model or subject ko. Outdoor portrait plano ko like beach, etc. since it's summer kasi. :D

How much would it cost for a 35mm 1.8? How would it differ with the 50mm?

Sorry, nakapa newbie ko pa lang talaga.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: toinkking on April 10, 2014, 12:02:01 PM
Thank you toinkking. I'm worried lang kasi since they were designed for motorized body to focus and get sharp photos (fast) pero baka mahirap gawin ito in manual focus mode or maybe it will really take time for me to get adjust eh mababagot na yung model or subject ko. Outdoor portrait plano ko like beach, etc. since it's summer kasi. :D

How much would it cost for a 35mm 1.8? How would it differ with the 50mm?

Sorry, nakapa newbie ko pa lang talaga.


Sorry can't help you with the pricing just check mo sa mga local shops mo jan im in overseas kaya i have no idea in pricing but sanayan lang kase sa manual focusing tlgang dipende sa experience mo yun so it needs a lot of practising but some manual focus lens ay merong focusing chip para di ka mahirapan mag focus
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: coy_2cute on April 10, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
kumpleto na!  :-D

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/12823653243_a1d54b42fa_d.jpg)

I envy you Sir.. Big Time! :-P
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: raginghormones on April 10, 2014, 04:39:42 PM
kumpleto na!  :-D

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3738/12823653243_a1d54b42fa_d.jpg)


sweet sexy trio! :wave: iisip nga ako kung ill get a fuji body tas wide lens to complement my fx and 70-200 e. kesa bumili ako ng nung 24-70 at 14-24 nikkor, which is mas mahal hehe
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: CeL1916 on April 10, 2014, 05:09:08 PM
Pa OT:

Hi guys, I'm a newbie sa photography. Just 2 weeks ago, I bought my first DSLR. I bought an entry level DSLR which is a Nikon D3100. The kitlens does the job (landscape, seascape, cityscape, etc.) but I'm planning to shoot portrait with a nice creamy background bokeh. Someone is selling me a cheap Nikon 50mm 1.8d. The problem is that my cam will not autofocus on AF D lenses. So my resort would be is to manually focus it. Madali lang ba yung manual focusing nito to take sharp foreground and blurry background? or is it a PITA?

Anyway, the cheap price is 2000Php. Should I go for it?

Thanks.


Ganyan setup ko man! Okay lang, manual focus lang talaga gamit ko.. Pero siyempre hassle pag pang ordinaryong picturan lang pag walang AF, halimbawa birthdays or biglaang snapshots, pero kung talagang "artsy artsy shoot" ok siya..
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: tonwins11 on April 11, 2014, 08:19:59 PM
Well, I think I'd go for it na lang. I'll buy the 50mm 1.8D lens. Planning to do my first beach potrait shoot. Na pe-pressure na ako. lol!  :)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: CeL1916 on April 12, 2014, 04:38:44 PM
Well, I think I'd go for it na lang. I'll buy the 50mm 1.8D lens. Planning to do my first beach potrait shoot. Na pe-pressure na ako. lol!  :)

Oo good na sa 2k yun IMO.. Magandang pagaralan..
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on July 27, 2016, 10:52:51 AM
have to agree with the old Sigmas having sub-par build and IQ than the signature Canons and Nikons. nakagamit na ko sometime in 2009-2010 and parang laruan lang ang feeling nya. but i did some checking lately and found out that they have moved to a new direction and are now producing high quality lenses that, as SLR Lounge editors have put it, are close to surpassing signature brands and have move on to compete with the likes of Zeiss.

im tempted to rent or borrow a 17-50mm f/2.8 OS for canon body. gusto ko try yung fixed aperture to justify my need for an all-rounder that can take shots in  poorly lit locations.

sino ba naka sigma pa dyan? paki inggit naman ako haha
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on July 27, 2016, 11:20:32 AM
wag na zoom. mag prime ka "ART" lens is the [gooey brown stuff]! 35mm lang buhay ka na. plus factor if naka full frame ka pa.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on July 27, 2016, 11:35:00 AM
^kailangan eh. may 50mm na ko for portraits and artsy fartsy stuff, i need something na magagamit ko for candid shots. tinitignan ko din yung 24-105mm f/3.5 stm na canon for longer ranges. pero interesante yung fixed wide aperture ng sigma. yummy yung 2.8 eh.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 27, 2016, 11:39:12 AM
wag na zoom. mag prime ka "ART" lens is the [gooey brown stuff]! 35mm lang buhay ka na. plus factor if naka full frame ka pa.


have to agree <3 the shots are really awesome.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: inexperience on July 28, 2016, 09:20:50 AM
^kailangan eh. may 50mm na ko for portraits and artsy fartsy stuff, i need something na magagamit ko for candid shots. tinitignan ko din yung 24-105mm f/3.5 stm na canon for longer ranges. pero interesante yung fixed wide aperture ng sigma. yummy yung 2.8 eh.

Nakita mo na yung Trioplan soap bubble lens? hayup yung mga kuha.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on July 28, 2016, 12:50:40 PM
Nakita mo na yung Trioplan soap bubble lens? hayup yung mga kuha.

ngayon ko lang nakita tong brand na to haha. pisti, hanggoooonnndooooohhhh ng booookeeeehhhh!

(https://drscdn.500px.org/photo/140587291/m%3D900/83d204caaf094201b2ec64666450a455)
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on July 28, 2016, 02:06:52 PM
ngayon ko lang nakita tong brand na to haha. pisti, hanggoooonnndooooohhhh ng booookeeeehhhh!

(https://drscdn.500px.org/photo/140587291/m%3D900/83d204caaf094201b2ec64666450a455)

LITSI ANG GONDO NOMON NITO!
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on September 20, 2016, 09:02:39 AM
t@e, nilabas na ng Sigma yung 85mm f/1.4 at 12-24mm f/4 na parehong Art series

http://petapixel.com/2016/09/19/sigma-unveils-85mm-art-lens-ultra-wide-art-lens-monster-telephoto/

gusto ko makita yung 85mm samples. kelan kaya magkakaron. at magkano kaya?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on September 20, 2016, 10:47:30 AM
mga october or november bagsak nyan satin. 85mm mga 60K+ siguro sa JT Photo.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on September 20, 2016, 12:44:27 PM
mga october or november bagsak nyan satin. 85mm mga 60K+ siguro sa JT Photo.

oo pre. yung Art series yung presyong slr body na nila. bang klase. sa ngayon yung Contemporary lines lang ang kaya ng budget ko. mukang career shooter and kailangan para maka bili nito hehe
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on September 20, 2016, 12:59:06 PM
gamit na gamit sa weddings yan. kaya ako nagpalit ng fuji eh kit lens lang buhay ka na.  ^-^
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on September 20, 2016, 02:13:47 PM
gamit na gamit sa weddings yan. kaya ako nagpalit ng fuji eh kit lens lang buhay ka na.  ^-^

hehe 70-300mm gamit mo?
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: Ace Of Spades on September 20, 2016, 05:44:50 PM
18-55 f2.8-4 hehe may IS pa. Tnrade ko ung 35mm F2 WR ko para dun hehe sulit naman. next plan is ung 56mm f1.2 ipon mode pa.
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on September 20, 2016, 07:09:06 PM
Ramdam na ramdam ko na talaga yung 17-70mm f/2.8-4 OS C na sigma. Pag di pa kinaya ng budget baka yung predecessor ang kunin ko o kaya tamron na 24-70mm f/2.8-4 VC. Kailangan ko ng built in stabilizer. Puro run n gun shoots ko hehe. Studio kit din tsaka dalawang yongnuo 560ex iv.

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Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on November 02, 2016, 07:18:31 AM
Yongnuo Releases Budget 100mm f/2 Lens for Canon, Costs Just $170 (http://petapixel.com/2016/10/31/yongnuo-releases-budget-100mm-f2-lens-canon-costs-just-170/)

 :lol:
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: CeL1916 on November 02, 2016, 05:08:59 PM
Yongnuo Releases Budget 100mm f/2 Lens for Canon, Costs Just $170 (http://petapixel.com/2016/10/31/yongnuo-releases-budget-100mm-f2-lens-canon-costs-just-170/)

 :lol:

Si sonic may mga shots gamit yongnuo lens, ok naman
Title: Re: 3rd party lens. Your thoughts.
Post by: marzi on November 02, 2016, 09:14:31 PM
Si sonic may mga shots gamit yongnuo lens, ok naman
Kaya nga eh. Bastos tong si Yongnuo kasi e.

Tignan mo, pag nahawakan yan ng isang mabigat bigat na photog at nag post ng magandang review, ang laking chunk ng market ang madudugas nyan sa canon. 9 aperture blades vs 8 ni Canon? Ganda bokeh nyan.

Natetempt ako actually. Grabe mura eh. Pero dami nagsasabi ambagal ng focusing ng YN kumpara sa katapat nyang canon. Kung portraits siguro at posed yung shots pwede yun. Pero kung manual focusing tapos candids pa, that requires expertise.