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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: NATSBRATS on June 25, 2015, 08:46:34 PM
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Tanong lang. Bakit mas mas marami yatang Pearl owners kesa Tama owners?
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Cheaper?
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Cheaper?
hindi. halos ganun rin presyo. mas mahal yta konti Pearl.
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magaling kasi manghikayat at makapangloko ang "50%" discount ng jbmusic :lol:
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magaling kasi manghikayat at makapangloko ang "50%" discount ng jbmusic :lol:
hindi rin yta. kahit nung yupangco pa nagbebenta ng pearl noon. mas marami talga naka pearl. :P
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hindi. halos ganun rin presyo. mas mahal yta konti Pearl.
In Japan, Pearl is actually much cheaper than Tama.
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Maybe because of the brand equity and the recall. When you say Pearl, you have Dennis Chambers, Slipknot (JJ), RHCP (Chad), Kiss (Singer), Omar Hakim.
With Tama you have... my personal recall, only Metallica (Lars). That's pretty much it. Portnoy mayb but he's more famous for his signature cymbals (Max Stax) than his drums.
To be honest, I'd also pick up a Pearl instead of a Tama only because I'm more familiar with the brand.
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Personally I would choose Pearl over Tama because of one thing: TOM MOUNTS. I think Pearl's Optimounts are just better designed compared to any other tom mount out there. So everything else being equal (wood, finish, hardware, etc), tom mounts ang deciding factor para sa akin.
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parang nike at adidas lang yan,hehe
for me to be honest coming from e pearl enthusiast talaga pero my first real kit was a
superstar hyperdrives then after a few months sold it for a pearl,hahah
i love both of them for pedals i have a thing with tama,but on drums its really pearl hehe
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Maybe because of the brand equity and the recall. When you say Pearl, you have Dennis Chambers, Slipknot (JJ), RHCP (Chad), Kiss (Singer), Omar Hakim.
With Tama you have... my personal recall, only Metallica (Lars). That's pretty much it. Portnoy mayb but he's more famous for his signature cymbals (Max Stax) than his drums.
To be honest, I'd also pick up a Pearl instead of a Tama only because I'm more familiar with the brand.
On the other hand, they still have dave lombardo (slayer) and charlie benante (anthrax). John Tempesta is also on board. Kulang lang sa Megadeth.
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On the other hand, they still have dave lombardo (slayer) and charlie benante (anthrax). John Tempesta is also on board. Kulang lang sa Megadeth.
Oh yeah, yeah. Now that I think about it, maybe that's it: Tama has a lot of metal drummers in its roster, and not so much of the jazz and session guys. Popularity wise, jazz and session drummers take the marketing cake. Maybe a lot of European drummers have Tama kits :lol:
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probably because audiophile came in late representing tama. nung early 90s, wala naman tama masyado dito. premier ang binibenta ng audiophile at peavey for a while.
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mas maraming pearl owners pero pulos entry to middle level. kasi si JB pag nagbenta, mas nakakaenganyo dahil sa mga hardware/cymbal packages. tska mas maraming branch si JB.
si tama kasi, usually kit only ang mabibili mo. syempre sa mga starting drummer, gusto nila, zildjian cymbals kasi sikat.
either way, parehas maganda. for kits, i would go for tama. for pedals and hardware, pearl.
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Nung tumingin ako ng Tama Starclassic Performer, Bubinga, Maple at Pearl Masters, Reference kits dati, I find Pearl to have the best value for money. The drums will probably have similar qualities but Pearl is cheaper with better hardware.
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Nung tumingin ako ng Tama Starclassic Performer, Bubinga, Maple at Pearl Masters, Reference kits dati, I find Pearl to have the best value for money. The drums will probably have similar qualities but Pearl is cheaper with better hardware.
Does Pearl have anything in line with Tama Star or Tama Starclassic Japan?
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Does Pearl have anything in line with Tama Star or Tama Starclassic Japan?
Yes. That would be Pearl Reference Pure, Masterworks and Masters Premium
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Yes. That would be Pearl Reference Pure, Masterworks and Masters Premium
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Are they made in Japan?
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Pearl kasi ang mabenta nung 90's. Kahit yung mga biyehorng musikero sa japan nun yan ang binibili (inuuwi or dito na binibili pag uwi nila). Sobrang sikat nun yung pearl export, marami ako kilalang drummer(mga banda banda nung 90's) ang kit nila pearl export. So baka yun yon, haha ako ang kit ko din pearl export.
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Binalik pala nila yung export series ngayon, pero ang tinutukoy ko yung lumang exports na isang diretsong buo yung mounting lugs at sobrang sikat na starter kit nung 90's
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Are they made in Japan?
taiwan lahat yung na mention
but if you buy a pearl kit in japan, then its probably made by their japan factory. the japan factory only caters to their domestic market
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Sa mga young or beginners kse Pearl agad ang nalalaman nilang magandang drums, kaya pag bibili sila or nagka pera eh Pearl ang preferred nila. Isa pa, madaming outlets ang JB Music ngayon compared sa Audiophile na carrier ng TAMA.
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I'm using a yamaha drumset. Break the meta hahaha. But personally may gusto ko porma ng tama at ng gretsch, not much love for pearl.
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The marketing strategy of the distributor plays a big role. :)
But for me, TAMA pa rin. hehe. I love the designs, quality and sound. :-D
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Features wise, halos parehas lang yung mga higher end models ng tama and pearl pero sa tingin ko kaya mas maraming players ng pearl kasi gawa ng export series, mas attractive kasi yung wood hoops tignan kesa sa bass drum hoops ng mga entry level kits ng tama :-D
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Maybe because Pearl is more widely available than Tama...napapansin ko mas madaming tindahan ang may Pearl, aside from the major music stores. Mas accessible sa gustong bumili ng kit.
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Hindi po kaya dahil mas naunang naitatag ang Pearl (1946) kesa sa Tama (1971) :-D
Ewan, nabasa ko lang po hehehe... cheers mga katambol :razz:
I love 'em both by the way...Tama would be my primary choice if Pearl didn't exist... :-\
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probaly because, for entry levels, mas mura pear kesa tama... not to mention pearl export was named as number 1/best selling drumset...
pero for flagship drum kits, napakalayo ng presyo ng Pearl masterworks sa Tama starclassic... mas mahal pa nga yata ung Masters Custom or Premium sa Starclassic eh... just atleast sa mga entry and mid level kits, mas mura yata pearl kaya cguro ganun...
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probaly because, for entry levels, mas mura pear kesa tama... not to mention pearl export was named as number 1/best selling drumset...
pero for flagship drum kits, napakalayo ng presyo ng Pearl masterworks sa Tama starclassic... mas mahal pa nga yata ung Masters Custom or Premium sa Starclassic eh... just atleast sa mga entry and mid level kits, mas mura yata pearl kaya cguro ganun...
Tama Star is more expensive than Pearl masterworks.
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Tama Star is more expensive than Pearl masterworks.
ganun ba sir... kwento sakin ng isang kaibigan dito eh... he got brandnew sparkle tama starclassic, less than 200k ata un nung makuha nya, sa pagkakakwento nya...
he also has masterworks... but new order of MW shellpack today ay sobrang mahal na and sabi nya... mas mahal pa nga daw ang masters custom/premium sa satarclassic nya eh... aun =)
but nhow, masmatagal naman po kayo dito sa PM, hindi lang cguro kami updated sa pricing... =) salamt sa info... :-D
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did some google, hindi na pala flagship ng TAMA and starclassic... TAMA STAR na... un pala ung cnasabi ni sir @firemodel55... salamat ulit sa info sir... :-D
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got the latest 2015 PRICE LIST of pearl Masterworks and Tama Star... [thanks google.hehe]
parang baliktad yata...shell sizes 14 snare 10 12 toms 14 16 floor toms 22 kick
kahit per individual comparison ng iba pang Shells,
PEARL Masterworks is still expensive than TAMA Star Bubinga/Maple...
TAMA price was in Euro, PEARL was in Dollar
kung direct conversion 1 Dollar=1.13Euro, MW is expensive than STAR...
at kahit iconvert muna into Philippine Peso para tumaas price ng Tama/Euro, ganun parin
*PS:one cud search, check, compare and compute, baka nagkamali lang din ako... salamat
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got the latest 2015 PRICE LIST of pearl Masterworks and Tama Star... [thanks google.hehe]
parang baliktad yata...shell sizes 14 snare 10 12 toms 14 16 floor toms 22 kick
kahit per individual comparison ng iba pang Shells,
PEARL Masterworks is still expensive than TAMA Star Bubinga/Maple...
TAMA price was in Euro, PEARL was in Dollar
kung direct conversion 1 Dollar=1.13Euro, MW is expensive than STAR...
at kahit iconvert muna into Philippine Peso para tumaas price ng Tama/Euro, ganun parin
*PS:one cud search, check, compare and compute, baka nagkamali lang din ako... salamat
I suggest you check USA street price kasi pwedeng inflated price ang sa price list. For example, mataas ang presyo ng fender na amp sa price list pero iyung pala may 30% discount sa street. Ang Mesa Boogie naman, walang discount mula sa price list.
If you check ruppsdrum.com, a Pearl Masterworks 22 inch Bass drums starts at around US$1710 while a Tama Star 22 inch Bass drum starts at around US$2450...
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I suggest you check USA street price kasi pwedeng inflated price ang sa price list. For example, mataas ang presyo ng fender na amp sa price list pero iyung pala may 30% discount sa street. Ang Mesa Boogie naman, walang discount mula sa price list.
If you check ruppsdrum.com, a Pearl Masterworks 22 inch Bass drums starts at around US$1710 while a Tama Star 22 inch Bass drum starts at around US$2450...
22 inches kick - Pearl masterworks artisan is $2,223.0, Tama Star is $2,450.00...
per official 2015 pricelist ng dalawang drum company, tama star is cheaper than masterworks artisan...
pero kung sa "streets"(music stores) ka kukuha, sabi mo nga, pweding magiba ung prices...just like any other items, na pweding magbago prices at magbigay ng discounts...
how about if one buy/order direct to pearl and tama... cud we still get the discounts?
malaking factor pag may middle musicstore... price probably wud depend on their credit/business standing(includes agreements)... kaya cguro napapababa ung prices...
or pwede ring, misleading talaga ang prices nila sa Price List.hehe
actually kahit ung TAMA STAR, 2,332.00 EURO ang 22 inches kick.. euro pa un ah... pero bakit dito sa ruppsdrums, mas mababa... :?
nhow, nice info sir...thanks
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22 inches kick - Pearl masterworks artisan is $2,223.0, Tama Star is $2,450.00...
per official 2015 pricelist ng dalawang drum company, tama star is cheaper than masterworks artisan...
pero kung sa "streets"(music stores) ka kukuha, sabi mo nga, pweding magiba ung prices...just like any other items, na pweding magbago prices at magbigay ng discounts...
how about if one buy/order direct to pearl and tama... cud we still get the discounts?
malaking factor pag may middle musicstore... price probably wud depend on their credit/business standing(includes agreements)... kaya cguro napapababa ung prices...
or pwede ring, misleading talaga ang prices nila sa Price List.hehe
actually kahit ung TAMA STAR, 2,332.00 EURO ang 22 inches kick.. euro pa un ah... pero bakit dito sa ruppsdrums, mas mababa... :?
nhow, nice info sir...thanks
Price Lists are there to either: a) make you feel good that you are buying something cheaper than SRP or b) really tell you what the company wants to sell it at. Pearl is of a) while Tama is of b). That being said, quietly, Pearl and Tama can set the lowest price that they can sell their products with their dealers.
Or sometimes go on sale.
Rupps, I feel is the cheapest dealer of both you can get outside of Japan. Rupps which is in the USA has cheaper import duties levied against Japan drum products versus Europe which has higher rate of duties.
Cheaper than local JB music or Audiophile.
Bottom Line: Street price is the determinant of the actual value of the drum. Unless on SALE, dealers will not violate (go lower than) the lowest price set by either Tama or Pearl because they risk their distribution of said product.
I suggest you learn about retailing. Pearl and Tama will NOT serve us directly because its against their dealership agreement.
For example, kung kakain ka sa fastfood kunyari Jollibee, if you order your sandiwich or chicken ala carte and order separate softdrinks, mas mahal pa versus combo meal di ba? So, kaya combo meal ang kukunin mo.
Pero and hindi mo alam: Ang presyong ala carte na P15 or P20 na regular/large Coke only costs Jollibee around P1.5-P2.0. They do this to force you to buy the combos so they can boost their Sales Value. Why?
Kasi alam naman nila that you can ask for service water for free and have something to drink instead of spending for Coke.
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Price Lists are there to either: a) make you feel good that you are buying something cheaper than SRP or b) really tell you what the company wants to sell it at. Pearl is of a) while Tama is of b). That being said, quietly, Pearl and Tama can set the lowest price that they can sell their products with their dealers.
Or sometimes go on sale.
Rupps, I feel is the cheapest dealer of both you can get outside of Japan. Rupps which is in the USA has cheaper import duties levied against Japan drum products versus Europe which has higher rate of duties.
Cheaper than local JB music or Audiophile.
Bottom Line: Street price is the determinant of the actual value of the drum. Unless on SALE, dealers will not violate (go lower than) the lowest price set by either Tama or Pearl because they risk their distribution of said product.
I suggest you learn about retailing. Pearl and Tama will NOT serve us directly because its against their dealership agreement.
For example, kung kakain ka sa fastfood kunyari Jollibee, if you order your sandiwich or chicken ala carte and order separate softdrinks, mas mahal pa versus combo meal di ba? So, kaya combo meal ang kukunin mo.
Pero and hindi mo alam: Ang presyong ala carte na P15 or P20 na regular/large Coke only costs Jollibee around P1.5-P2.0. They do this to force you to buy the combos so they can boost their Sales Value. Why?
Kasi alam naman nila that you can ask for service water for free and have something to drink instead of spending for Coke.
I can verify this both in the marketing and retail aspects. except Php30+ na ata ang softdrinks ngayon sa Jollibee. :lol:
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Price Lists are there to either: a) make you feel good that you are buying something cheaper than SRP or b) really tell you what the company wants to sell it at. Pearl is of a) while Tama is of b). That being said, quietly, Pearl and Tama can set the lowest price that they can sell their products with their dealers.
Or sometimes go on sale.
Rupps, I feel is the cheapest dealer of both you can get outside of Japan. Rupps which is in the USA has cheaper import duties levied against Japan drum products versus Europe which has higher rate of duties.
Cheaper than local JB music or Audiophile.
Bottom Line: Street price is the determinant of the actual value of the drum. Unless on SALE, dealers will not violate (go lower than) the lowest price set by either Tama or Pearl because they risk their distribution of said product.
I suggest you learn about retailing. Pearl and Tama will NOT serve us directly because its against their dealership agreement.
For example, kung kakain ka sa fastfood kunyari Jollibee, if you order your sandiwich or chicken ala carte and order separate softdrinks, mas mahal pa versus combo meal di ba? So, kaya combo meal ang kukunin mo.
Pero and hindi mo alam: Ang presyong ala carte na P15 or P20 na regular/large Coke only costs Jollibee around P1.5-P2.0. They do this to force you to buy the combos so they can boost their Sales Value. Why?
Kasi alam naman nila that you can ask for service water for free and have something to drink instead of spending for Coke.
ah di pala pweding dumiretso sa kanila... salamat sa mga insights sir...
cguro may TAMA star kayo... hehe
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ah di pala pweding dumiretso sa kanila... salamat sa mga insights sir...
cguro may TAMA star kayo... hehe
Nope... I am a very convinced DW guy.
By the way, if you are interested in Japanese made drums; Canopus and Sakae are considered way better than Pearl, Yamaha, or Tama in Japan. If you have the big bucks go for a Kitano. I liked the Kitano snares I tried.
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In the end, American (Gretsch, Ludwig, DW) and European (Sonor, Premier -- their new line) drum made drumsets seem to sound just right to the ear. Not to mention the many boutique brands in USA, Italy and UK.
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mapex saturn is no slouch either #nagbubuhatngbangko
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with all the different brands I've tried, I still prefer the Pearl, DW or Mapex sound.
for some reason... di ko talaga matripan ang tunog ng TAMA Kits.
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Nope... I am a very convinced DW guy.
By the way, if you are interested in Japanese made drums; Canopus and Sakae are considered way better than Pearl, Yamaha, or Tama in Japan. If you have the big bucks go for a Kitano. I liked the Kitano snares I tried.
But...
In the end, American (Gretsch, Ludwig, DW) and European (Sonor, Premier -- their new line) drum made drumsets seem to sound just right to the ear. Not to mention the many boutique brands in USA, Italy and UK.
grabe never heard ung mga Japan named brands...haha
united nation brand ako eh, halo-halo kits...hehe
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mapex saturn is no slouch either #nagbubuhatngbangko
mukang nasayo na saturn ni pj ah...haha nice brader... (hula lang sir.hehe)
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with all the different brands I've tried, I still prefer the Pearl, DW or Mapex sound.
for some reason... di ko talaga matripan ang tunog ng TAMA Kits.
Ako gusto ko sa Tama yung Starclassic B/B. Yung Pearl kasi bilog yung sound na madumi na tone. In general talga Pearl ako. hehe. :)