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The Musician Forums => The Blowing Section => Topic started by: bea_rox on August 15, 2008, 08:03:53 PM
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Hello!
I really want to learn how to play the Trumpet. But it seems too hard. All good trumpet players I know have started playing the instrument since childhood. But me, I'm already in my second year of college. to add up to that, I have no strong musical background. I play the bass and I can hardly read any notes. I also have braces, I heard that it is even harder to make the trumpet sound with braces.
what do you think?
Trumpet players! any tips for an aspiring trumpet player like me?
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It's not easy, but it's not impossible. I'm already in my mid-20s and I was able to play "Moon River" after a month of practicing. :)
Kaya yan! :)
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It's not easy, but it's not impossible. I'm already in my mid-20s and I was able to play "Moon River" after a month of practicing. :)
Kaya yan! :)
wow! you have just started playing the trumpet for one month and then you could already play such songs? wow. Okay, first thing I gotta do is buy a trumpet. I almost bought one. My dad offered to buy me one in HK when we were shopping in TOMLEE. It was a yamaha and it was not expensive. Less than 20k. But then I was still undecided so I didnt let him buy it for me. I SWEAR, the next time we go to hongkong (which is in the near future, LATEST is december), I am going to buy that trumpet.
THANKS FOR THE REPLY..
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No problem. But don't make the stubborn mistake that I made: get in touch with a competent teacher. I learned it on my own so the learning curve is soing to be REALLY steep. Good luck in your new hobby! :)
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Much harder than saxophone for sure! But if you want to be REALLY good, all instruments are DAMN hard!
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Much harder than saxophone for sure! But if you want to be REALLY good, all instruments are DAMN hard!
yes, i've heard from a conductor that the sax is really easy to learn and that the trumpet is damn hard.
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The sax have a lot of keys and it looks like it's hard to learn but it is the easiest wind instrument to play compare to the trumpet or clarinet.
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haha..parang si flea... trumpet at sax ang hawak.... :-D
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I think the flute is the easiest wind instrument, is it?
Anyway, trumpet kasi walang reed so dapat lips mo mag-produce ng vibration, which is harder. I'm not sure kung kaya with braces kasi nahirapan friend ko who has braces but he said he was able to play sax naman. Why not ask a trumpeter who had braces? I think braces will be an issue. I even postponed my plan to play the clarinet due to my braces. I hate singaws.
So plano mo magplay for the pops orchestra? :)
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I think the flute is the easiest wind instrument, is it?
Anyway, trumpet kasi walang reed so dapat lips mo mag-produce ng vibration, which is harder. I'm not sure kung kaya with braces kasi nahirapan friend ko who has braces but he said he was able to play sax naman. Why not ask a trumpeter who had braces? I think braces will be an issue. I even postponed my plan to play the clarinet due to my braces. I hate singaws.
So plano mo magplay for the pops orchestra? :)
yes, you could play the SAX with braces. it is highly plausible. But in the trumpet, i do not know. and i'm betting that it will be very,very hard. the trumpet is already really hard to begin with anyway! and Personally, i have not known a trumpeteer who has braces. but what I fear is that if i learn to play the trumpet now and then later on have my braces removed, it would be very hard for me to adjust since my embouchure(?) would be different. :( :( :( :( :( :(
I already play for the pops orchestra. just not as a trumpet player (and i have no plans of doing so).
thanks for the reply.
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wow, you got in bass! congrats! ngayon ko lang nabalitaan :)
talo mo pa kami ni roj hehe, mga di pumasang bassist ng pops :D
yup, rinig ko naghihintay pa nga muna mga bata until they get their permanent teeth to play the trumpet raw...
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I think the flute is the easiest wind instrument, is it?
Anyway, trumpet kasi walang reed so dapat lips mo mag-produce ng vibration, which is harder. I'm not sure kung kaya with braces kasi nahirapan friend ko who has braces but he said he was able to play sax naman. Why not ask a trumpeter who had braces? I think braces will be an issue. I even postponed my plan to play the clarinet due to my braces. I hate singaws.
So plano mo magplay for the pops orchestra? :)
Damnit! And I find myself cussin' everytime I try that flute! Easiest???? There goes my wind blowing aspirations. :-D
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wow, you got in bass! congrats! ngayon ko lang nabalitaan :)
talo mo pa kami ni roj hehe, mga di pumasang bassist ng pops :D
yup, rinig ko naghihintay pa nga muna mga bata until they get their permanent teeth to play the trumpet raw...
thanks.. its nothing really. alam ko mas strict sila sa pagtanggap ng bassists dati. ;)
oh i didnt know that! but i have decided na.. im gonna buy a trumpet soon and im gonna start playing with or without braces. hahahaha.
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Damnit! And I find myself cussin' everytime I try that flute! Easiest???? There goes my wind blowing aspirations. :-D
i really dont think that the flutes the easiest. :)
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in my opinion, the flute is medium hard to learn, and once learned, it is easy to play badly but difficult to play well and in tune. I've been playing the instrument of and on for 30 years now, but i still don't like my c# tone (all keys open).
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UPDATE:
ordered a beginner bach trumpet from a guy my friend referred. that guy is known for importing brasses and supplying local major orchestras. will get it by 3 weeks time.
in the mean time, i've been practicing with a mouthpiece and occasionally borrowing a trumpet from orchestra mates.
truly, it was very hard to make the trumpet,or mouthpiece rather, sound with braces. i've only got the hang of it by the 3rd day.
Now, (its my fifth day), i am able to consistently make the trumpet sound and little by little, creating a fuller tone. My problem is that i could not hold a note long enough when i play. hehe. and i do not have control of the notes i play. hehehehe.
basically, thats it. cant wait for my trumpet to arrive.
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what's the difference between a trumpet and a bugle?
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the simplest non-technical explanation: bugle wala ata yung tatlong pindutan na nasa trumpet. alam ko mouth lang gamit para baguhin yung nota ng bugle.
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MORE UPDATES:
Day 8: 4th day WITH trumpet. 1st 4 days with mouthpiece only.
Can do High C already. And sometimes high G. also, better note control. can hold notes for around 2 bars.
konti nalang and maybe i can move to the valves na. puro open lang ginagawa ko. hehehe.
Okay na to! for someone like me!! i dont know with you, pero satisfied na ako. hahaha. i have CERAMIC/ "Invisible" braces (even thicker than the metal ones) -_-
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Bea,
you wear braces?...personally, i don't recommend my students to try brasses w/ braces......hmmmmm...
i don't want to judge your teacher..but...........
anyway, what book are you using?
If need more help pm me......
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Bea,
you wear braces?...personally, i don't recommend my students to try brasses w/ braces......hmmmmm...
i don't want to judge your teacher..but...........
anyway, what book are you using?
If need more help pm me......
Hi! thanks for your concern. Yes, i have been discouraged many times because of my braces. I was supposed to try the trumpet last Sept. 2007 pa but was discouraged by our conductor. But now, i got enthusiastic and tried it no matter what.
I dont have a teacher. my trumpet has not arrived yet. it will arrive in 3 weeks time. So, in the mean time i am practicing with a mouthpiece (vincent bach 7c) and "connecting" it with the orchestra's stock trumpet whenever I have the opportunity to do so (the orchestra is in our school so.. i go there every break time and dismissal time).
I will get a teacher when my trumpet arrives and some of the young orchestra trumpeteers and wind players have been helping me, giving me tips.
Is there something wrong? I know that the very first time playing brasses is crucial and i must get a teacher already but I guess I got too excited and couldnt wait for my trumpet to arrive before I start playing.
Thanks. Please enlighten me. I'm not so sure with what I'm doing, i maybe have really bad technique. and the inside of my mouth hurts because of the braces (sores). :-(
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notes for the trumpet w/o pressing the 3 valves are -
low C
G (2nd line on the staff),
high C (3rd space on the staff),
high E (4th space)
High G (above the 5th line)
etc...
check your pitch with any standard instruments like keyboard or tuned guitar or tuner... Bb instruments (trumept, clarinet, tenor sax, soprano sax etc) are 2 semitones higher than the concert pitch..
example: - Bb on piano/keys is your C on Trumpet,
C on piano... - is your D ...
send me an email.. dingricon at yahoo dot com.......
i will share a beginner's trumpet book saved on pdf...at least you have a guide before you get a teacher (to have one is highly recommended)...... :wink:
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Bea,
check your email..sent you 2 books in pdf file..not the best but it helps...let me know when you got it.....
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Bea,
check your email..sent you 2 books in pdf file..not the best but it helps...let me know when you got it.....
Thanks! got it. :D
will try it out soon
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sana inuna nyo munang mag aral ng recorder para madali na sa inyo ang trumpet since me braces kayo dapat dun muna kayo nag focus kasi sabi yun sakin ng dad ko e (teacher ang dad ko ng trumpet,sax and any brass instrument) kasi lahat ng tinuturuan nya sa recorder muna nag sisimula tapos alam narin nila ang sax trumpet clarinet flute obue etc,etc saka pag me natutunan ka na sa recorder na piece ma aaply mo na rin sya sa trumpet,sax,flute... yan lang ang sabi sakin ng dad ko sana... nakatulong ako :-D
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ok lang yun tinatamad lang erpats mu umihip kaya nagrecorder hehe...at least mga new method yun sa pagturo. ..nakaw kapag titser mu yung mga sinaunang panahon na maestro sakit sa ulo tuturuan k ng mga figura clave de fa.. AW!
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naku, di lang yon, may kasama pang hampas ang mga matatanda pag nagturo noon!!!!! :-D
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naku, di lang yon, may kasama pang hampas ang mga matatanda pag nagturo noon!!!!! :-D
kaya dapat mga BATANG katulad namin ni dingricon ang mga maestro mu ... AW!!!!! ! :-D
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waa wag nlng.... kung magaaral akong mag trumpet ke kuya joy (sax ng shuffle union) nalang ako papaturo since naging student naman yun ng erpat ko baka turuan ako nun ng libre weeeee!!!
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Bro,
Band master din ba erpat mo?..
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Bro,
Band master din ba erpat mo?..
Uu...
baka nga ibang forumers dito naging student na ng erpat ko :-D
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Tiga saan lugar ang tinutukoy ninyong band master mga pre?
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taga saan ka nga ba superweak?
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taga saan ka nga ba superweak?
kolookan po...
band master sya ng isang highschool marching band dati yung pang pyesta
weee!!!
lumalayo na yung topic :lol:
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aba!!!!!teka di lang pang piyesta ang marching band!... siguro marami ring natulungan ang tatay mo, kc pag sa college ang mga band members free tution etc...,marami dyan, learn how to read notes dahil sa high school band... medyo knsomisyon nga lng sa mga estudyanteng matitigas ang ulo.. (based on my experienced)...ang kailangan......mahabang mahabang passseeensyaaaaa!!!!! :-D
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aba!!!!!teka di lang pang piyesta ang marching band!... siguro marami ring natulungan ang tatay mo, kc pag sa college ang mga band members free tution etc...,marami dyan, learn how to read notes dahil sa high school band... medyo knsomisyon nga lng sa mga estudyanteng matitigas ang ulo.. (based on my experienced)...ang kailangan......mahabang mahabang passseeensyaaaaa!!!!! :-D
pasensya???di minumura ng tatay ko yung mga pasaway kaya best of the best lang natitira haha!!
haha!!! para ngang alamat sya dito... yung mga dati nya ngang students libre nga tution sa collage.Dahil di lang nag marmarching band marunong pa sa notes nakwento nga sila sakin.Sila lang daw ang band na sa buong quezon city ang marunong bumasa ng notes nung nagkaroon ng cheering competition dati...sabi nila??? baka me nakakakilala na sa erpat ko :mrgreen: shhhh.... :-D
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kasi ang karamihan ngayon ng band sa school ay Drum & Lyre Corps, (no note reading....)daming talents sa atin pero limited resources....teka meron ding mga marching band talaga,sa QC,dati sa Lagro, sa school malapit sa SM city, sa Manila sa Arellano high at sa Magsaysay High (where i used to be the Band Director before i went abroad) etc....
anyway, those who wants to learn band instruments.. i got some books saved on pdf files..bk 1 & 2...ok ipamahagi from the author/publisher....got it form a band director site...so no worries... :wink:..pero... u need someone to guide you personally... iba rin kasi ang may totoong teacher...... :wink:
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kasi ang karamihan ngayon ng band sa school ay Drum & Lyre Corps, (no note reading....)daming talents sa atin pero limited resources....teka meron ding mga marching band talaga,sa QC,dati sa Lagro, sa school malapit sa SM city, sa Manila sa Arellano high at sa Magsaysay High (where i used to be the Band Director before i went abroad) etc....
anyway, those who wants to learn band instruments.. i got some books saved on pdf files..bk 1 & 2...ok ipamahagi from the author/publisher....got it form a band director site...so no worries... :wink:..pero... u need someone to guide you personally... iba rin kasi ang may totoong teacher...... :wink:
erpat ko po yun :-D
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sino erpat mo?...
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cno?.....anak ka ba Ni Kuya Manny Ruta?.... :?
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cno?.....anak ka ba Ni Kuya Manny Ruta?.... :?
opo kilala nyu nga po sya :-D
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syempre...anyway, i sent u a pm... para di naman mahijack etong topic...he,he,he,... :wink:
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Self toture ang tawag sa ginagawa mo sis.... di ko maimagine kung paano natatagalan ng lips mo ang pressure between the mouthpiece and your teeth... but I admire you coz you have the guts, the eagerness to learn, and the initiative to do what you really want. it's unusual to know individuals like you.... keep it up.... 8-)
UPDATE:
ordered a beginner bach trumpet from a guy my friend referred. that guy is known for importing brasses and supplying local major orchestras. will get it by 3 weeks time.
in the mean time, i've been practicing with a mouthpiece and occasionally borrowing a trumpet from orchestra mates.
truly, it was very hard to make the trumpet,or mouthpiece rather, sound with braces. i've only got the hang of it by the 3rd day.
Now, (its my fifth day), i am able to consistently make the trumpet sound and little by little, creating a fuller tone. My problem is that i could not hold a note long enough when i play. hehe. and i do not have control of the notes i play. hehehehe.
basically, thats it. cant wait for my trumpet to arrive.
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Self toture ang tawag sa ginagawa mo sis.... di ko maimagine kung paano natatagalan ng lips mo ang pressure between the mouthpiece and your teeth... but I admire you coz you have the guts, the eagerness to learn, and the initiative to do what you really want. it's unusual to know individuals like you.... keep it up.... 8-)
why torture? dahil sa braces? actually medyo sanay na ako sa pain. including na rin ung numbness ng lips after. gusto ko talaga eh. :)
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Update:
my bach tr-700 will arrive this week (assuming no delays). Its imported pa eh.
very excited.
oh and, i think mali embouchure ko all along. :oops: so im gonna get a teacher when my trumpet arrives. Ill try CCP.
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buti ka pa this week na ang dating..... yung sakin sa november pa....
big time ka talaga sis.... sa CCP ka pa kukuha ng titser.... :wink:
nung ako pinagtry magtrumpet(i think it was 18 years ago), they gave me a match stick. dapat daw ganyan lang kaliit ang butas ng lips to blow to the mouthpiece. i did not pay much attention pero effective. the sound is clear but they did not push me to learn the trumpet and gave me the sax instead...
try ko rin itanong kung available yung isang teacher ko.... he is from parañaque... san ka ba located? you can send me a PM so we can arrange the session and the location.... but of course, it's still your call if you want to try...
Update:
my bach tr-700 will arrive this week (assuming no delays). Its imported pa eh.
very excited.
oh and, i think mali embouchure ko all along. :oops: so im gonna get a teacher when my trumpet arrives. Ill try CCP.
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buti ka pa this week na ang dating..... yung sakin sa november pa....
big time ka talaga sis.... sa CCP ka pa kukuha ng titser.... :wink:
nung ako pinagtry magtrumpet(i think it was 18 years ago), they gave me a match stick. dapat daw ganyan lang kaliit ang butas ng lips to blow to the mouthpiece. i did not pay much attention pero effective. the sound is clear but they did not push me to learn the trumpet and gave me the sax instead...
try ko rin itanong kung available yung isang teacher ko.... he is from parañaque... san ka ba located? you can send me a PM so we can arrange the session and the location.... but of course, it's still your call if you want to try...
hahaha. nahihiya nga ako magpaturo dun eh? :p I DONT KNOW ANYTHING!! haha.
mahirap yata kung sakin gawin ung match stick thing. I have a protruding set of upper teeth kasi plus ceramic (thicker than metal) braces. So yeah, its quite crowded. hahaha. Hindi daw pang trumpet ung natural form ng mouth, lips and teeth ko. Oh well!! PILITIN!!! hahaha.
im located... FAR from paranaque. haha. and I, i mean my parents, prefer music schools over private tutors. :(
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no problem sis... I understand.... but just to give you an idea, the teachers from a school are also band members outside the school. siguro ang difference lang is that they might give you a class card and the teaching will be held @ school....
also, there is a big chance na i-recommend nila sayo na tutorial na lang ang gawin to cut the fee a little lower.
at I haven't heard of any school that offers special courses on music. ang alam ko, the music teacher making a sideline in the school which he/she is in but the offer is only good for the students of the school.... tapos amy recital pa para feel na feel ng bata na marunong na siya.... :lol:... but I won't hinder you with your way. I am only giving you ideas coz i've been there...
about dun sa match stick, pinalagay nya yun sa center ng lips ko then I closed my lips and relaxed. tapos dahan-dahan pinaalis sakin so that my lips will form a hole... then patong ng mouthpiece tapos buga ng hangin and a little pressure... that is when I had my first note.... SOL...... :roll:
hahaha. nahihiya nga ako magpaturo dun eh? :p I DONT KNOW ANYTHING!! haha.
mahirap yata kung sakin gawin ung match stick thing. I have a protruding set of upper teeth kasi plus ceramic (thicker than metal) braces. So yeah, its quite crowded. hahaha. Hindi daw pang trumpet ung natural form ng mouth, lips and teeth ko. Oh well!! PILITIN!!! hahaha.
im located... FAR from paranaque. haha. and I, i mean my parents, prefer music schools over private tutors. :(
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Sir mukhang napasingit itong post na to & malayo sa topic.. hindi pang-wind instrument ito & malayo na din sa music :-D
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Sir mukhang napasingit itong post na to & malayo sa topic.. hindi pang-wind instrument ito & malayo na din sa music :-D
Yes, I agree and wonder what is happening to this section of the website. More than 50% of the posts are for advertisement of horns for sale and there is even one about ordering goods abroad which have been repeated over and over again. It seems na wala naman pumanpansin!
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Dapat nache-check ng moderator
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gusto ko ring matuto ng trumpet dati, na inspire ako sa katigasan ng ulo ni bea, ma try ko nga rin yung mouthpeice muna hehehe
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gusto ko ring matuto ng trumpet dati, na inspire ako sa katigasan ng ulo ni bea, ma try ko nga rin yung mouthpeice muna hehehe
Haha! Binenta ko na din tong trumpet ko recently :(