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Tech Forums => PC Tech => Topic started by: RastaJalil on November 02, 2006, 03:19:35 PM
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Just wanna ask what does CoE focus on? and how hard is it? :?
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walang board exam ang BSCoE,
marami silang projects 4th at 5th year na...
matututo ka sa softwares at hardwares ng PC.
btw, BSECE ako :-D
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yun nga eh, instant engineer ka agad, so baka mahirap . . ano ba mga subjects nun? marami bang math? hehe . . balak ko sana sa mapua, kasi sa kanila 4 years lang ang Co|E
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Mas maraming Math ang BS ECE kaysa BS CoE. BS ECE din ako.
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I see . . Palagay ko nga, Malawak kasi ang ECE keysa sa CoE . . or not? anyway thanks sa comment . .
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Sa BSECE, my electronics at communications(so wats da point?! :-D)
yung dalawa ang pinakapagaaralan mo dun, yung math magagamit mo talaga sa major subjects ng ECE..un ang tingin ko, 4th yr palang ako eh...
1st, 2nd and 3yr... pareparehas pa ang math ng ece,coe,ie,ee
ung level ng difficulty ay iba... halimbawa, ang seatwork namin sa mechanics ay 4 questions, sa Coe, 2 questions lang, ung dalawa ay assignment... basta my ganung pangyayari dun.hehe
ayaw mo ba ng math, kung gusto mong mgengineering, you have to love math.hehe
dati rin akong CoE pero nagshift lang ako ng ECE, kasi parang hirap ako sa programming eh, nasakit ulo ko dun, although sasakit din ulo mo sa math problems, pero kung gusto mo kasi ung ginagawa mo, ma eenjoy mo lang talaga, tulad ko, halos ngayong year lang ako nagkainterest sa electronics(gawa ng pag momod ng fx o pag gawa ng PSU), sa comm, di gaano :-D
pwede ka naman mgshift kung ayaw mo sa course mo, ok lang at puro minor subjects lang ang kukunin mo nun,
sa mapua? yayay, parang ayoko dun, baka di na ako makapag gitara nyan, sa sobrang hectic ng sched...
haba nito, sana my sense tong mga nasabi ko...
just my 10 pesos :-D
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wow . . salamat sa comments :-D
In fact gusto ko talaga ng math, nung HS days favorite ko mga subject that deal with numbers . . napaisip lang ako baka mas mahirap na ngayon hehe . .
thanks sir
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ayan, kailangan mo ng basic algebra, yung mga tinuro sa inyo nung H.S magagamit mo talaga yun, pati trigonometry(yung mga identities importante) kung may basic calculus kayo(int at diff) makakatulong talaga...aun
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sarap ng calculus!!!! sasabog utak mo..hehehehe...CoE nga pla me...
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tama si hardcore..halos puro math yung first 3 years mo..yung malalaman mo about computers, mostly sa OJT and experiences mo makukuha. Madami ka din siguro magiging subject about electronics, circuits , etc.
Di ko alam kung ano curriculum sa Mapua, but about sa software, every sem iba-ibang software tinuro samin eh, puro basic pa ..bahala na kami kung pano gamitin sa higher year lalo na sa automation..
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disadvantages lng s BsCoE... la kang title... d official ung "Engr." s pangalan mo... tapos 5 years pa... sbi skin kung mg-Co2E dw aq eh mg com. sci. n lng dw... wala dw pinagka-iba ung pinapag-aralan tapos 4 years lng!!! pero e2 ang totoo... sobrang dami ng math!!! ang sakit s ulo!!! lalo n ang calculus (diff at integ) langhiya... tpos nyang dalawang calculus n yan ay may differential equations p!!! combination of the TWO CALCULUS!!! grabe dpat tatandaan mo lahat ng math mo simula first year high school!!! kc pg-nakalimutan mo un... mahirap n balikan... BSECE po aq... :-D
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wala ba talgang title ung mga coe? kala ko meron din un...
importante yang calculus, magagamit yan sa electromagnetics (for ECE pero meron din yan ang CoE, take note, andaming bumagsak nyan samin ngaun, nanakot eh no, yung mga bumagsak, majority nun eh talagang pa easy easy lang ung mga un kaya ng kaganun, pero wag kng papetix petix sa subject na yan,hehe)
sa mechanics, kailangan mo ng knowledge sa physics ( apat ang physics namin dati, sa bagong curriculum, dalawa nalang)
basta aralin mo lang ung mga basics, ALGEBRA, TRIGONOMETRY, PHYSICS...
tapos yang calculus, aaplayan lang din ng algebra, kaso my mga bagong principles kang matututunan...eh basta aralin mo lang yung basics, di ka naman masyadong mahihirapan.
lyceum ako ng aaral, mas mahirap jan sa mapua at apat na sem per year diba? baka matuyuan ako ng utak jan.hahaha
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naku 4 years na CoE..ilang Math sa isan sem yun?? tuyo talaga utak mo nyan..basta wag mo lng kalimutan yung mga basics sa mga Math subjects lalo na yung may mga pre-requisite. Dagdagan mo pa ng eng'g mechanics and thermodynamics...sakit talaga ng ulo mo jan...hehehe...buti na lng tapos na ko jan kahit puro 2.75 at 3 lng hehehe. :mrgreen:
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naku 4 years na CoE..ilang Math sa isan sem yun?? tuyo talaga utak mo nyan..basta wag mo lng kalimutan yung mga basics sa mga Math subjects lalo na yung may mga pre-requisite. Dagdagan mo pa ng eng'g mechanics and thermodynamics...sakit talaga ng ulo mo jan...hehehe...buti na lng tapos na ko jan kahit puro 2.75 at 3 lng hehehe
apir tol, ganyan din ranges ng grade ko eh.hahaha masaya na ako kung maka 2.5 or 2 ako eh.hehe
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astig..naka 2 at 2.5 ka pa.. reason ko kasi nun di ko nmn magagamit maxado kaya pakopya kopya na lang ako nun...hehehe.
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tunay ba yun? walang ksng title na Eng'r pagka grsd ng CoE?
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ako first year bs coe sa UP diliman. uhm sa amin pareparehas ang pinagaaralan ng ece ee at coe sa first three years( meaning same math physics at kung ano anong majors na series). magkakatalo na lang yan sa 4th year at fifth year mo. may pinag kaiba ang coe sa com sci. sa up gagawin na daw software engineering ang com sci. more on programming lang talaga siya. sa coe more on assembly languages/programming ang aaralin niyo at may hardware part din while sa ece more on communications. in terms of shifting madali lng magshift from ece to coe dahil sa amin same dept lang siya. dahil walang board exam ang coe wala kang title na engr sa name mo. sa mapua parang mahirap hehe well ask mo si ejbasses mapua grad siya. job wise. sabi sa akin ng mga kuya at ate na ka org ko kung gusto mo maging boss mag ie ka daw. tapos ang ece at coe un nga amy kanya kanyang specializations kayo so parheas malawak ang possibilities ng trabaho mo. sana makatulong kahit malabo pagkaka explain ko
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kmi ng barkada q nakakuha kmi ng dos s integral calculus!!! pano inaya nila ung prof namin na mag-inom... tapos aq sumama lng... d kc aq umiinom eh... effective!!! dos kming mag-ba2rkada!!! :evil:
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tunay ba yun? walang ksng title na Eng'r pagka grsd ng CoE?
by HEART lng ang title mo n engineer ka... d mo pedeng ilagay un s unahan ng name mo... kasi nga ala kayong licensure exam... so pagnagkataon hindi malalaman ng madla n engineer ka unless ipagsigawan mo n engineer ka... :-D
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with regards sa IE, di ganun ka complicated ang math subjects nyan, ang pagkakaalam ko lang, more on paper works kasi mga IE, kung gusto mo ng ganyan, mg IE ka
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guys eto tip ha.. focus more on what your interests are. kung mahilig kayo talaga sa computer stuff, then Computer Engineering is for you. ECE kasi deals with electronics in general (including non-micron level circuitries like op-amps, schmitt triggers, darlington pair/push-pull/etc. amplifier configurations, power amps, filters, 74xx-based PLCs, etc.) while CoE focuses more on the details of microcomputer design and engineering such as Algorithmic State Machine procedures and its successors, Application-Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) technology, microprocessor architecture, etc. also, ECE delves into the realm of telecommunications/cellular technology, encoding techniques, broadcasting, acoustics, digital signal processing and electrical engineering basics such as iterative circuits, basic motors, thermodynamics etc.
ECE is a much broader discipline than CoE. CoE exists because the demand for microelectronics and computer expertise is ever-increasing. syempre, palaki nang palaki ang influence ng computers sa mundo kaya mas kelangan ng knowledgeable computer engineers to contribute to the industry. ECE, however, is more of a mixed profession; ang daming sakop na fields e. madaming knowledge din about microelectronics na makukuha sa ECE course but syempre not as in-depth as CoE's curriculum. in my opinion, ECE should be split into Electronics Engineering and Communications Engineering kung course outline lang ang i-coconsider ha.. masyado kasing broad but ECEs have a slight advantage sa job opportunities because of the profession's large scope. it is addressed naman somehow by the RA 9292 law but i don't think that it's being completely implemented (kung sina Fragante, Marcelo at Ebro pa rin ang mga ECE board examiners, ibig sabihin hindi pa rin implemented ang RA 9292!). so yun, make sure you know what profession you want to be in BUT don't close your doors to opportunities from other fields because hindi lahat ay natututunan sa school. primer lang yan para sa magiging career paths nyo. experience ang #1 teacher when you're already in the industry.
by the way, licensed ECE here, working for an electrical engineering company and specalizing in transmission line protection and Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) for substation applications. i hope nakatulong ako kahit papaano :)
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guys eto tip ha.. focus more on what your interests are. kung mahilig kayo talaga sa computer stuff, then Computer Engineering is for you. ECE kasi deals with electronics in general (including non-micron level circuitries like op-amps, schmitt triggers, darlington pair/push-pull/etc. amplifier configurations, power amps, filters, 74xx-based PLCs, etc.) while CoE focuses more on the details of microcomputer design and engineering such as Algorithmic State Machine procedures and its successors, Application-Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) technology, microprocessor architecture, etc. also, ECE delves into the realm of telecommunications/cellular technology, encoding techniques, broadcasting, acoustics, digital signal processing and electrical engineering basics such as iterative circuits, basic motors, thermodynamics etc.
ECE is a much broader discipline than CoE. CoE exists because the demand for microelectronics and computer expertise is ever-increasing. syempre, palaki nang palaki ang influence ng computers sa mundo kaya mas kelangan ng knowledgeable computer engineers to contribute to the industry. ECE, however, is more of a mixed profession; ang daming sakop na fields e. madaming knowledge din about microelectronics na makukuha sa ECE course but syempre not as in-depth as CoE's curriculum. in my opinion, ECE should be split into Electronics Engineering and Communications Engineering kung course outline lang ang i-coconsider ha.. masyado kasing broad but ECEs have a slight advantage sa job opportunities because of the profession's large scope. it is addressed naman somehow by the RA 9292 law but i don't think that it's being completely implemented (kung sina Fragante, Marcelo at Ebro pa rin ang mga ECE board examiners, ibig sabihin hindi pa rin implemented ang RA 9292!). so yun, make you know what profession you want to be in BUT don't close your doors to opportunities from other fields because hindi lahat ay natututunan sa school. primer lang yan para sa magiging career paths nyo. experience ang #1 teacher when you're already in the industry.
by the way, licensed ECE here, working for an electrical engineering company and specalizing in transmission line protection and Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) for substation applications. i hope nakatulong ako kahit papaano :)
kuya mahirap b ang board ntin??? ece din po aq eh... 2nd yr... :-D
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di sa pagmamayabang o kung ano pa man...
18 all over 37 ECE graduate students ang nakapasa sa school namin(Lyceum Institute of tech)
mahirap nga daw, nahirapan daw sila sa theory... yung board exam daw ng sunod na batch ay iibahin na rin daw...
kakatacute eh...
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2nd year ka pa lang e, malamang aabutin mo na yung revised board exam curriculum. i'm expecting the board exam to be a bit easier because kahit mas madaming subjects na sa exam, at least less ang percentage na mawawala sayo for every wrong answer unlike sa old system na isang wrong answer sa math e 0.6% na ang kaltas sa score mo, sa electronics/communications engineering na 0.35% per item.
basta expect nyo na lang to:
magsosolve kayo ng isang item sa board pero kahit anong gawin nyo, wala yung sagot sa choices.. ang lalayo lahat ng values! use both absolute approximation and relative approximation methods.. yan ang technique sa mga ganyan na problema. may lumalabas din na mga questions na pang-astronaut.. outer space stuff. buti na lang astronomy enthusiast ako kaya nasagutan ko yung mga questions.
Communications Eng'g ang pinakamahirap sa lahat, pero ang labo.. yun ang pinakamataas na score ko sa lahat ng subjects haha :) siguro nakachamba lang ako't lahat ng formula na inaral ko e lumabas sa board.
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di sa pagmamayabang o kung ano pa man...
18 all over 37 ECE graduate students ang nakapasa sa school namin(Lyceum Institute of tech)
mahirap nga daw, nahirapan daw sila sa theory... yung board exam daw ng sunod na batch ay iibahin na rin daw...
kakatacute eh...
not bad, slightly less than 50% passing. pero i believe na nasa tao pa rin yan, not entirely sa school :)
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sana mas mataas pa sa next batch at sa batch namin...
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takot aq... kailangan pala mg-aral talaga...
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kinilibutan naman ako sa mga sinabi nyo, math pa naman isa sa kahinaan ko. mag eECE "sana" here. :-D :-D :-D :-D
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kung willing ka talagang i-pursue ang ECE, you can do it! :lol:
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BS CoE grad here... payo ko sayo, mag ECE ka na lang.. like what others say, walang title ang CoE.. walang board exam.. much better if you have the title..
true experience: ive got a high school barkada.. lets just say, hindi sya matalino.. nangongopya pa sakin yun sa test, quiz, exams, assignments, you name it! after graduation ng highschool.. nagkita kami sa iisang school.. i took up CoE coz im very interested in computers at madaming nagsasabi na mahirap ang course ng ECE.. and guess what my barkada took? ECE, yes! after 5years, naka graduate kami.. he took the board exam, and yup! he passed! amazing! hindi sa paninira or what.. mahina talaga sya.. i dunno kung bat sya nakapasa.. siguro dahil sa review? or may kinalaman ang review center? looking back the years.. dapat nag ECE na lang ako.. grrrrrr.... :x
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B.S.CoE gradudate here.
I agree & +1 with hunk0429.
If given a chance to bring back the clock, I would have taken ECE instead.
co'z I have this experience during those time of job hunting.
during the interview, I notice & observed that majority of companies specially in the IT, Electronics field choose those potential candidates who are board passers with titles.
most of the time, I ended up second-placer during the final interview when the employer choose between me & the ECE fellow grad.
for me to have an edge, i just focus myself in IT certifications.
now im a cisco (ccna/ccnp) certified & microsoft certified (mcts/mcp).
and right now I have landed a decent job here in singapore.
imho, if in case u still have the chance to shift to E.C.E, better shift & pass the board exam.
just my two cents.
peace. :wink:
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i think ok pa rin kahit COE eh, i-master niyo yung programming skills niyo sa turbo C/C++, assembly language etc. tapos pwedeng maimplement sa microcomputers yan. malupit din :lol:
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maghanap knlang ng ibang course kaysa sa Coe,
mahirap kc yang walang exam e, dka makakapunta sa ibang field,
bestfren ko coe sa ama, encoder ang work nya sa casino filipino.
stuckup ka dyan ser,
ece ka at ee oki, para cgurado. kahit anung field pede.
anyway nsa tao rin yan tlga kung swerte dba at enjoy sa work kahit ba
basurero kpa e, basta masaya suportahan kita.
nagtraining nga ako sa mga magsaysay shippinmg lines kc magshishift na ko e,
ayoko na rin ng isang kahig isang tuka pagod ko'y napupunta sa wla.
kung balak mu pa talaga mag Coe budget ka ng 5 years + 2 years para sa management engineering post studies para visor kaagad yung aplayan mu.
gudluck.
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Hi...
Dati akong ECE pero nagshift sa Physics dahil mas gusto ko talaga dun.
Don't worry too much about the math. If you have the guts and the patience, kayang kaya yan.
Ako kasi, di gaanung magaling din sa math. I barely survived calculus. 3 ako sa Math 53, 2.75 sa Math 54 and 3 ulit sa Math 55. (Ito iyong calculus series sa aming school).
Sa amin, parehas lang ang coursework up to third year so you have plenty of time to think if CoE is really what you want to pursue.
As with job opportunities, I really don't know the statistics. Kasi CoE grads can have programming jobs while communications is really for ECE. Choose the right school na rin. I think it helps na maganda iyong school na pupuntahan mo. Dapat swak sa personality mo iyong mga prof at classmates mo. The most important thing, of course, is what you really want to do in life. You can have the highest paying job but if you're not happy with what you're doing, you'll still end up regretting your choice.
God bless on your college life. :)
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MatE :-D
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CoE kinuha ko nung college. I'd really wish na nag-ECE nalang ako pero CoE ang gusto ng parents ko. Kung bakit walang licensure exam ang CoE dahil sa bilis ng palit ng technology. I mean if you studied CoE 20 years ago at na-coma ka ng 10 years, pag gising mo obsolete na karamihan ng programming language na napag-aralan mo. (hehehe :-D).
It's not too bad though. :wink:
I'm now building software for the biggest commercial airplane fleet for the largest airline company here in Australia.
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03Ht5JD5NK3TP/610x.jpg)
And I will ride this baby for free to London and back two weeks from now. First Class. :-D
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CoE kinuha ko nung college. I'd really wish na nag-ECE nalang ako pero CoE ang gusto ng parents ko. Kung bakit walang licensure exam ang CoE dahil sa bilis ng palit ng technology. I mean if you studied CoE 20 years ago at na-coma ka ng 10 years, pag gising mo obsolete na karamihan ng programming language na napag-aralan mo. (hehehe :-D).
It's not too bad though. :wink:
I'm now building software for the biggest commercial airplane fleet for the largest airline company here in Australia.
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03Ht5JD5NK3TP/610x.jpg)
And I will ride this baby for free to London and back two weeks from now. First Class. :-D
astig! congrats to the few of CoE that went to the top! :-)
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CoE kinuha ko nung college. I'd really wish na nag-ECE nalang ako pero CoE ang gusto ng parents ko. Kung bakit walang licensure exam ang CoE dahil sa bilis ng palit ng technology. I mean if you studied CoE 20 years ago at na-coma ka ng 10 years, pag gising mo obsolete na karamihan ng programming language na napag-aralan mo. (hehehe :-D).
It's not too bad though. :wink:
I'm now building software for the biggest commercial airplane fleet for the largest airline company here in Australia.
(http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/03Ht5JD5NK3TP/610x.jpg)
And I will ride this baby for free to London and back two weeks from now. First Class. :-D
sir congrats po sau... coe po knukuha kong course ngayon... any peaceful advice that you can give to me and my fellow coe students?hehehe...
tulong mo ako naemploy huh> hehehe
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sir congrats po sau... coe po knukuha kong course ngayon... any peaceful advice that you can give to me and my fellow coe students?hehehe...
tulong mo ako naemploy huh> hehehe
advice? program lang ng program. :-)
astig! congrats to the few of CoE that went to the top! :-)
thanks dude. pero madami din dito sa forum na successful sa field na to.