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Author Topic: Do you have strong hearing and can you distinguish the sound difference?  (Read 3403 times)

Offline jeva

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I have stumbled across Tama's WARLORD Snare site. It provides sound sample of the 4 different snares.

I tried to listen to all of them. I ended up not being able to tell the difference among those snares.

Are you able to? Puwede nyo ba describe kung ano ung mga characteristics na nadining nyo, which separates them from each other?

For the other issue. I have had this ringing sound for a few weeks now. It started during the last 30 mins of my last flight. Parang sasabog tenga ko nun. I almost could not hear a thing in that last 30mis.

1. Have any of you experienced that in a flight? As in severe pain, not just the ordinary high pressure sensation in your ears.

2. Then, do guys, as drummers/musicians, have this ringing sound?

3. How do guys protect your hearing? I use a triple flanged ear plug. I heard VF Isolation headphones, ung pwede ikabit sa metronome. Meron pa ba kayong alam na ibang model that comes close to that VF HP?

By the way, I had my hearing checked by a specialist, the result, I lost about 10% of my hearing already. I really cant get those high pitched sounds. i just don't get it, because I don't listen to loud music, I don't work in a noisy environment. So for you guys out there, protect your hearing.

Offline bangbus

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Im not an ear nose throat doc, but i think you've got tinnitus. try googling it and you'll get descriptions similar to this:

What is Tinnitus?

Tinnitus is the medical name used to describe ringing noises in the ears.

Known causes:

Whilst there are no known causes for tinnitus, there are many factors that have been associated with tinnitus including headaches, emotional tension, anxiety, high blood pressure, anaemia, catarrh, sinus congestion and fatigue. However, as yet there are no known effective medical treatments for this problem.

Although research suggests that lack of sleep and headaches are common related symptoms which may affect the frequency and degree of tinnitus, all cases of tinnitus tend to vary according to the individual; some people suffer only in one ear, others in both. Some people experience a mild ringing noise, whereas others are troubled by loud, high pitched noises. Even diet has been associated with tinnitus and there are numerous alternatives available for the tinnitus sufferer to explore.

In addition, they say that those ringing noises that you hear and white spots that you see after some sweet love makin could also be attributed to a pound of too much sex.

Protect your ear whenever and however u can.

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Offline jeva

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Im not an ear nose throat doc, but i think you've got tinnitus. try googling it and you'll get descriptions similar to this:

Yup, I do hve, un ang sabi ng Dr. na nag check. I do use hearing protectio, di ko nga pinabbayaan na mag work on site ng wlng earplugs, coz I know from the start that I dont hear well.

How about the Tama warlords, can you describe the difference?

Salamat!

Offline drumster

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Regarding the Tama Warlord snare drums...  Yeah I can distinguish the sound differences.  The Spartan drum has that expected metal drum character and sound.  The Praetorian drum has the same character as the Spartan, though it sounds bigger and louder.  The Masai drum is slightly warmer than the previous two metal snares, due to its wood shell.  Though I think it's tuned up high, that's why there's so much crack and crispness on its sound.  The Valkyrie drum has more crack and less sustain than the Masai drum.

I guess we just need to listen harder and more carefully in order to hear the little nuances among the four drums.  And the sound differences would probably be more recognize-able if we hear the actual drum played in front of us, instead of listening to mp3 samples.  Recorded sounds from studios can be deceiving sometimes.


Jeva, regarding your three questions...

1.  Yeah, I've experienced that pressure thing in my ears during air travel.  But I haven't experienced anything that extreme or severe yet.

2.  I do, especially after doing gigs with excessively loud volumes.  This happened a lot before, until I began using in-ear monitoring system on gigs, which doubles as ear protection.

3.  Like what I said, I use in-ear monitoring system, which doubles as ear protection.  Currently, I'm using M-Audio IE-20 XP isolation earphones.  I also think it's important to be aware of our volume limitations.  Whenever I play drums, I don't really bash on them for volume.  Besides, playing lightly sounds and feels much better.

I also give my ears its time to rest.  For example, after a long gig, I rest my ears by going somewhere more quiet, not listening to my car stereo or mp3 player, or simply avoid loud sounds or noises...  Things like that, so that my hearing can have its break.

I hope your case isn't so severe, Jeva.  Our ears are very important assets, as musicians.  Let's take great care of them, especially while we're still young.  So that we can continue enjoying, playing and listening to music for many years to come.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2007, 01:13:30 AM by drumster »

Offline drummerboy827

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1. D p ako nakaksakay ng lumilipad na vehicle
2. I use ear protection
3. I use simple ear muffs

^ nice drumster. san nyo po nabili ear gadgets nyo??
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Offline compvr

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"Parang sasabog tenga ko nun. I almost could not hear a thing in that last 30mis."

scary to ah, magkano po pa check up sir?

yup namimingi din ako sa plane pero parang muffled lang tunog ng paligid or ng kausap at walang pain, ginagawa ko nag yo-yawn ako paulit ulit hanggang mawala yung pamimingi.
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Offline jeva

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scary to ah, magkano po pa check up sir?
around 3k+ babalik pa ko uliako for anoher check up. I know about the ordinary pressure when u fly as I fly about 3-4 round trips a year, but this was the worst. I'll be flying this weekend, and a bit worried.

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^ nice drumster. san nyo po nabili ear gadgets nyo??


M-Audio products are distributed by JB Music.

You can also try Shure's isolation earphones, which is distributed by Audiophile.

Offline skunkyfunk

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Sound samples are not the best way to assess equipment, especially in a mix context.  You cannot measure loudness and timbre if you are using your cutesie PC speakers.  When someone told me that the DW Neil Peart sig snare was the best snare in the world, my first instinct was to listen to new Rush songs but that did not do justice.  So maybe the idea is try things in the real setting. 


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You can also try Shure's isolation earphones, which is distributed by Audiophile.[/color]

wait... diba that is sold for $500?

like 30k?


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^ nice drumster. san nyo po nabili ear gadgets nyo??


M-Audio products are distributed by JB Music.

You can also try Shure's isolation earphones, which is distributed by Audiophile.


Could you please estimate the price of the M-audio products?
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Offline jeva

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So maybe the idea is try things in the real setting. 
That would be ideal bro. Kaya lang I have not seen a store that would let you try those snares in particular. Pero alam mo, sana nga meron dito ano? Although k JP pwede e, pinaupo pa nga ako sa set sa store nila. Di naman ako marunong, sayang.

Offline Miggleness

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there's a difference.. pero very little.  I guess you have to hear them up close to be able to tell the difference.  Yung Masai mataas yung tono, you can hear the hoops resonate

Offline wax_static

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there's a difference.. pero very little.  I guess you have to hear them up close to be able to tell the difference.  Yung Masai mataas yung tono, you can hear the hoops resonate

hoops?

Offline drumster

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When someone told me that the DW Neil Peart sig snare was the best snare in the world, my first instinct was to listen to new Rush songs but that did not do justice.  So maybe the idea is try things in the real setting. 

I don't think Neil Peart used his DW Signature snare drum on their recordings.  That snare drum (http://www.dwdrums.com/snares/snareComm.htm) is more of a commemorative/collectible model.  Though his signature DW snare drum is an Edge model, which I believe is often Neil's favorite snare drum for live settings nowadays.



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You can also try Shure's isolation earphones, which is distributed by Audiophile.[/color]

wait... diba that is sold for $500?

like 30k?


You must be referring to the high-end E500PTH model.  Shure has a wide range of earphones, from high-end professional models up to models for normal/everyday use.




Could you please estimate the price of the M-audio products?


Which product?  There are so many M-Audio products.

If it's the earphones, JB's regular prices for those are...  Around 16K for the IE-XP20.  Around 20K for the IE-XP30.  I can't remember how much the IE-10 is; but I think it's below 10K.

More M-Audio Earphones info here --- http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.list&ID=Earphones .
« Last Edit: May 14, 2007, 07:17:04 PM by drumster »