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Title: Painting Guitars
Post by: legato on February 24, 2007, 05:27:45 PM
Any of you guys ever painted your guitars? Any good or bad experiences you can share?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: MikEh on February 24, 2007, 05:34:43 PM
gusto ko din malaman to... matagal ko nang gustong gawin pero natatakot ako kasi baka pangit ung labas.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: fraudulentzodiac on February 24, 2007, 05:35:34 PM
ako rin, if given the chance gusto ko fiesta red kulay ng strat ko...
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: gisan925 on February 24, 2007, 09:55:05 PM
tried painting an mij strat from white to red. painting solid colors lang ang experience ko. just be sure maganda ang preparation ng guitar body. i just bought the primer, paint , top coat from a paint store. just be sure the top coat is fully cured before wet sanding it with super fine sandpaper. buff to gloss manually or with a buffer. 8-)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: dizzymark on February 24, 2007, 10:04:04 PM
ako din, pagnakabili na ako nung red na epi SG gagawin ko siyang white hehe :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: legato on February 24, 2007, 10:28:17 PM
tried painting an mij strat from white to red. painting solid colors lang ang experience ko. just be sure maganda ang preparation ng guitar body. i just bought the primer, paint , top coat from a paint store. just be sure the top coat is fully cured before wet sanding it with super fine sandpaper. buff to gloss manually or with a buffer. 8-)
Ummm ok. Lots of info here but follow up questions
1. How would you know kung maganda preparation ng body? And how do you prepare it? 2. What kind of paint? 3. Whats a top coat? 4. What is "wetsanding"?
Thanks bro! :)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: jonathan.au on February 24, 2007, 10:30:14 PM
I've already painted my guitar 3 times. Originally white, i painted it black, then white, then black again. heheh. The first 2 times, i used the canned enamel paint. Came out very amateurish.. The last one, i used my dad's varnish equipment from his old furniture business. Turned out quite well. except hindi ko naliha mabuti. So medyo palpak pa rin..
Anyway, the guitar is now resting in peace....
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: jonathan.au on February 24, 2007, 10:35:21 PM
Ummm ok. Lots of info here but follow up questions
1. How would you know kung maganda preparation ng body? And how do you prepare it? 2. What kind of paint? 3. Whats a top coat? 4. What is "wetsanding"?
Thanks bro! :)
Based on my humble knowledge, which may not be correct :D
1. basta dapat pakinisin ng liha.. better kung may makina kang pang-file. 2. I believe most guitars use lacquer-type paint. 3. Top coating is done to make it glossy. Pero ang pagkakaalam ko nara-rub pa yon para makuha mo yung kintab na parang factory-made 4. simply put, basain mo yung liha habang ginagamit mo.. para mas makinis ang kakalabasan.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: gisan925 on February 24, 2007, 10:56:51 PM
tried painting an mij strat from white to red. painting solid colors lang ang experience ko. just be sure maganda ang preparation ng guitar body. i just bought the primer, paint , top coat from a paint store. just be sure the top coat is fully cured before wet sanding it with super fine sandpaper. buff to gloss manually or with a buffer. 8-)
Ummm ok. Lots of info here but follow up questions
1. How would you know kung maganda preparation ng body? And how do you prepare it? 2. What kind of paint? 3. Whats a top coat? 4. What is "wetsanding"?
Thanks bro! :)
1.Preparation would include stripping of the old paint until you can already see the wood. From there you will be sanding it until a fine texture of bare wood is achieved. Application of wood filler,primer is next. Then you apply the base coat or first color. Then the color of your choice is applied. then the topcoat, then the wetsanding and buffing. Give the newly painted body at least a week of curing prior to buffing. 2. you can use automotive paint 3. top coat is the clear coat applied on top of the color of choice. 4. wetsanding is letting your sandpaper soak in water overnight prior to using it to sand the guitar body.
hope this helps.. 8-)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: soulfeather on February 24, 2007, 11:29:46 PM
I had an old cheap guitar before ... i should have sanded down the old paint before covering it again :x... what happened was i used a paint remover solvent and it's quite messy and it does not do the job well... (or maybe I’m not good with paints or the works) :|
After striping the paint I coated it with a white primer thrice (I don’t want to put on some other stuff that might affect the wood or the tone of the wood.
I repainted it with krylon mystic… a spray that I bought in ace hardware… I think I used two of them… finish was good…. sort of blueish violet.... na yung guitar... the problem was the decal at the headstock... got cut out a card board for it... of course if this was an expensive guitar i would have gone with the oroginal decal as well....
Pero tinamad akong mag assemble ulit… hehehe… I’m still finishing the assembly part… a little every day…. :lol:
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Al_Librero on February 25, 2007, 12:34:59 AM
I'm currently on my eighth or ninth finishing project. On some of those bodies I experimented several times over them. Very work intensive in all cases.
I've seen cars being painted. Believe me, compared to cars, painting guitars can easily be much more work intensive if you want something resembling professional-level quality.
One thing I can guarantee, though. Nobody achieves good results on their first shot at refinishing a guitar.
1. How would you know kung maganda preparation ng body? And how do you prepare it?
Sort of what they said. Sand it down. But in many cases, stripping to bare wood isn't necessary. Keeping the sealer coat flat and intact will suffice, unless you're going for an oil finish or something. I'd advise against using a power sander, unless you're adept at handling one. Those things will sand through both paint and wood hard and fast.
2. What kind of paint?
Acrylic lacquer, nitrocellulose lacquer, enamel, polyurethane, polyester, varnish, oil, etc.... take your pick.
3. Whats a top coat?
What they said... clear coat.
4. What is "wetsanding"?
What they said as well: sanding with soaking wet paper, or even oil, depending on the finish to be sanded. Some people also mix oil-free soap with the water for even smoother sanding.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: greasykid on February 25, 2007, 01:27:17 AM
Kahit gaano ka kapangit mag-spray ng pintura, liha at oras ang katapat non! :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: soulfeather on February 25, 2007, 07:26:15 AM
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: st0mpb0x_bahista on February 25, 2007, 09:46:15 AM
guys try nyo tong link na to http://www.projectguitar.com/tut/tutorial5.htm
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Jayson77 on February 25, 2007, 10:55:21 AM
kaibigan ko nagpipintura ng car, sya din ang nagpintura ng mga guitar ko & guitar ni jennie. Marami na din sya na repaint na mga guitar puro polyurethane ang gamit nya para di madali magasgas and may top coat pa para mas glossy. PM nyo ako bigay ko sainyo yn number nya if interested kayo. Yung repaint nya sakin may 11 years na makinis pa rin.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: greasykid on February 25, 2007, 05:03:07 PM
kaibigan ko nagpipintura ng car, sya din ang nagpintura ng mga guitar ko & guitar ni jennie. Marami na din sya na repaint na mga guitar puro polyurethane ang gamit nya para di madali magasgas and may top coat pa para mas glossy. PM nyo ako bigay ko sainyo yn number nya if interested kayo. Yung repaint nya sakin may 11 years na makinis pa rin.
Haha Thats how I did mine, I got a compressor and an air sprayer. :)) Learned to paint like the people at detailers.
Plus nothing beats 6 clearcoats. :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: supacow on February 26, 2007, 01:13:25 PM
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: legato on February 26, 2007, 11:18:07 PM
Thanks guys. Lots of good information here.
Ok. I went ahead and tried to strip the paint off a guitar using a paint stripper. Mabilis sya maalis e kaso medyo natakot ako kasi toxic yung chemical. Parang nasusunog yun kamay ko. Lumulusot kahit naka household glove. Yikes!!! I will never try to use this again especially in a confined area.
Also tried the drill with sander, ok naman sa flat surface. Problema kung sa sides na medyo kinakain yun wood. Hehehe, learning lots of mistakes here.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: legato on February 26, 2007, 11:39:26 PM
I'm currently on my eighth or ninth finishing project. On some of those bodies I experimented several times over them. Very work intensive in all cases.
I've seen cars being painted. Believe me, compared to cars, painting guitars can easily be much more work intensive if you want something resembling professional-level quality.
One thing I can guarantee, though. Nobody achieves good results on their first shot at refinishing a guitar.
1. How would you know kung maganda preparation ng body? And how do you prepare it?
Sort of what they said. Sand it down. But in many cases, stripping to bare wood isn't necessary. Keeping the sealer coat flat and intact will suffice, unless you're going for an oil finish or something. I'd advise against using a power sander, unless you're adept at handling one. Those things will sand through both paint and wood hard and fast.
2. What kind of paint?
Acrylic lacquer, nitrocellulose lacquer, enamel, polyurethane, polyester, varnish, oil, etc.... take your pick.
3. Whats a top coat?
What they said... clear coat.
4. What is "wetsanding"?
What they said as well: sanding with soaking wet paper, or even oil, depending on the finish to be sanded. Some people also mix oil-free soap with the water for even smoother sanding.
Thanks bro. I think I read in the other forum that you use lacquer (lacquer acrylic right?).
How long does it dry?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Al_Librero on February 26, 2007, 11:59:55 PM
I usually wait for 4-6 weeks after spraying the final coat before I start flat-sanding and polishing. The longer the curing time, the better.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: legato on February 27, 2007, 08:12:21 AM
I usually wait for 4-6 weeks after spraying the final coat before I start flat-sanding and polishing. The longer the curing time, the better.
How about in between coats of different color? I plan to stripe it. Thanks.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ubersam on February 27, 2007, 09:27:23 AM
Al and the others have pretty much covered all the basics. The project guitar website is also a good resource for the aspiring finisher/re-finisher. I got my info from there when I was looking into refinishing one of my guitars. Heres some of them:
When applying the clear coat, caution must be taken in an effort to avoid re-flowing the base coat.
Make sure that the base coat has cured well enough not to run.
Use light coats for the first few coats of clear, making sure that each coat dries well enough not to run.
Wet sanding:
Make sure that the finish has cured enough before attempting to wet-sand.
Start with a coarse grit (I like 400), working your way up to finer grit (1.5K or 2K) in the final stages. The objective to achieve a smooth even finish.
The next stage will be the polishing stage. For me, this is a two step process, starting with extra fine cut rubbing compound to remove the marks left by the final wet sanding stage, followed by a glazing compound to remove any swirl marks left by the rubbing compound stage.
Here are some pics of my refinished S520: http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00550-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00550-640x480.jpg) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00546-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00546-640x480.jpg) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00542-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00542-640x480.jpg) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00538-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00538-640x480.jpg)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Al_Librero on February 27, 2007, 10:18:51 AM
How about in between coats of different color? I plan to stripe it. Thanks.
Ah. If you're still spraying the color coats, you don't need to wait too long. When I did the faux EVH stripes, I only waited one or two days between different colors. Still, the longer the curing time, the better.
Here are some pics of my refinished S520: http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00550-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00550-640x480.jpg) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00546-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00546-640x480.jpg) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00542-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00542-640x480.jpg) http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00538-640x480.jpg (http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n188/ubersam/DSC00538-640x480.jpg)
Hey! I used the same color on my guitar. :lol:
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: legato on February 27, 2007, 01:53:08 PM
Thanks Al. I'm doing an EVH replica too. Pero eto pagpraktisan ko muna tong lumang RJ body before the real thing. Sanding stage palang. Pag nagawa ko na share ko pics although matagal tagal pa siguro.
Thanks sa lahat. Share kayo mga pics nyo.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: greasykid on February 27, 2007, 02:20:51 PM
Nothing dulls your project guitar enthusiasm worse than the paint drying/curing time. Still, WAG NA WAG kayong maiinip at WAG NA WAG kayong mangangati. Kasi pag nagtrabaho kayo nang ganon, that's when you'll commit most mistakes. 8-)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ubersam on February 27, 2007, 03:05:26 PM
I usually wait for 4-6 weeks after spraying the final coat before I start flat-sanding and polishing. The longer the curing time, the better.
Al, Ubersam,
What brand of spraycan do you use or had success with? I heard some brands dont dry easily.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Shekoski on April 12, 2007, 11:26:20 PM
What about painting hardware like a tune-o-matic bridge?
Sorry kung medyo hijack yung post ko. :lol:
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: jaythegame on April 12, 2007, 11:32:04 PM
inalok ako ng dad ko na irerepaint daw nya ung guitar ko ng kahit anong color.. sabi ko kulayan nya ng orange eh..:p pero hnd na natuloy.. car paint gagamitin kasi he works at isuzu.. :-D maganda kaya un? napapagisip tuloy ule ako.. :-P
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Jaco D on April 13, 2007, 02:48:26 AM
car paint gagamitin kasi he works at isuzu.. :-D maganda kaya un?
Put it this way - the early Fenders used auto paint.
Some of the Fender guitar care products are made by Meguir's (sp), who also make car care products.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: kiko_pizarro on November 11, 2007, 12:16:07 AM
Do you guys have an idea how much would it cost to have a strat repainted by some of our custom guitar makers? is 2K too much?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: sidlead66 on November 12, 2007, 07:09:17 PM
question...
1. is primer required kung lilihahin mo na yung body without stripping the paint? 2. ilang coat kaya ng actual color for it to be solid and also sa clear coat? 3. ano pong sand paper kelangan sa bawat stage? 4. san makakabili ng rubbing compound?? hardware o paint center?
...if im going to do a quick refinish... dat would take 3 steps... SANDING, PAINTING,POLISHING... tama po ba? anyhelp will do thanks... ahahaha
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: dan_sparta on November 12, 2007, 09:25:18 PM
plain colors car painter yung alam nyong magaling, pag sa mga artistry tulad ng burst o yung mga komplikado kala jhon o arie kwestyon nalng yung presyo. :-D nung batabata pako sg bass na mahogany, pininturahan ko ng silver naging styro yung gitara, SINUNOG ko sa asar. ha!ha!ha! :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: p2ltronilogd on March 06, 2008, 08:24:59 PM
sir regarding paint... ano pong magandang paint na gagamitin for a solid top guitar?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ungwalapa on March 30, 2008, 12:07:02 AM
Ummm ok. Lots of info here but follow up questions
1. How would you know kung maganda preparation ng body? And how do you prepare it? 2. What kind of paint? 3. Whats a top coat? 4. What is "wetsanding"?
Thanks bro! :)
1.Preparation would include stripping of the old paint until you can already see the wood. From there you will be sanding it until a fine texture of bare wood is achieved. Application of wood filler,primer is next. Then you apply the base coat or first color. Then the color of your choice is applied. then the topcoat, then the wetsanding and buffing. Give the newly painted body at least a week of curing prior to buffing. 2. you can use automotive paint 3. top coat is the clear coat applied on top of the color of choice. 4. wetsanding is letting your sandpaper soak in water overnight prior to using it to sand the guitar body.
hope this helps.. 8-)
pano ba tanggalin ung old paint? pde ba knife? kasi mejo sinimulan ko na ung sakin eh. normal ba na mejo may natatanggal na kahoy??
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: doremi on March 30, 2008, 12:11:46 AM
...naku, baka hindi maging smooth kalabasan niyan. haha ...pag niliha mo naman, mag iiba na shape niyan haha
hindi pa talaga magiging smooth. hind ko pa naman sina-sand eh. tinatanggal ko palang naman ung paint.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: doremi on March 30, 2008, 01:15:55 AM
umm, yun nga, apg niliha mo ibig sabihin magbabawas k ng wood, ibig sabihin maiiba shape ng gitara mo :P ..medyo tatabingi sa ibang part tas medyo lalalim sa iba. ...un. haha
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ungwalapa on March 30, 2008, 01:21:16 PM
ok na pala eh. masilya lang ang katapat. anyway hindi naman malalaki ung natanggal na wood eh. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ungwalapa on April 21, 2008, 11:28:07 PM
tulong naman. mejo nagkaproblema ako sa pagpaint ng gitara. may ibang parts na nag accumulate ung paint. anong ba ang remejo dito
eto close up nya (http://photos.friendster.com/photos/31/46/3386413/1_109532357l.jpg)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Jaco D on April 22, 2008, 12:55:38 AM
Kung "anal" ka, tatapyasin mo lahat and start from scratch. On the other hand, puwede namang lihain yung buong katawan para mawala yung tambok tapos bugahin mo ng pintura. The thing is, patuyuin mo ng mabuti muna iyan. Though the top might look dry, sa ilalim niyan medyo hilaw pa yung pintura. Nag-evaporate yung thinner sa top layer kaya natuyo agad pero basa pa sa ilalim. Dapat maraming manipis na buga rather than a few thick coats. At saka, malapit masyado yung spray gun/can mo sa body. Let the coats dry well before putting on the next one. Also, rather than have the body hang floor to ceiling, have it lie horizontally (you would need a bracket to do that).
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ungwalapa on April 22, 2008, 01:49:53 AM
thanks Jaco D. so pwedeng lihain lang mismo ung tambok basta tuyong tuyo na. mga gano katagal bago matuyo pati sa loob?
pag hinawakan mo sya, magaspang. ewan ko baka kasi dahil ginamit kong paint ung pylox metallic silver. parang may glitters glitters sya eh. pano ba matatanggal ung gaspang nun?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: abyssinianson on April 22, 2008, 03:35:31 AM
thanks Jaco D. so pwedeng lihain lang mismo ung tambok basta tuyong tuyo na. mga gano katagal bago matuyo pati sa loob?
pag hinawakan mo sya, magaspang. ewan ko baka kasi dahil ginamit kong paint ung pylox metallic silver. parang may glitters glitters sya eh. pano ba matatanggal ung gaspang nun?
define "magaspang." i have finished guitars with sprakle finish before but i've never used a spray can, however, i think the same detail applies whether you are using a spray gun + compressor or the cans. the problem with sparkle finishes is that you need to be very careful with the distance at which you are spraying the finish because of two things: you want the flakes to vertically orient themselves in the solvent when it touches the guitar body (so it randomly reflects the light when viewed) and, second, you want to spray a thin coat which prevents the accumulation of the paint on the body because this stuff can build up very easily. application distance should be about 8-15 inches away from the guitar body and you should pretty much allow the spray to "fall" on the body. do not rush this process! application of the clear coat follows the same rule because you do not want the clear coat to overly flatten the flakes on the guitar. lightly apply 2-3 coats before the final sanding and buffing.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ungwalapa on April 22, 2008, 03:50:29 AM
define "magaspang." i have finished guitars with sprakle finish before but i've never used a spray can, however, i think the same detail applies whether you are using a spray gun + compressor or the cans. the problem with sparkle finishes is that you need to be very careful with the distance at which you are spraying the finish because of two things: you want the flakes to vertically orient themselves in the solvent when it touches the guitar body (so it randomly reflects the light when viewed) and, second, you want to spray a thin coat which prevents the accumulation of the paint on the body because this stuff can build up very easily. application distance should be about 8-15 inches away from the guitar body and you should pretty much allow the spray to "fall" on the body. do not rush this process! application of the clear coat follows the same rule because you do not want the clear coat to overly flatten the flakes on the guitar. lightly apply 2-3 coats before the final sanding and buffing.
magaspang= ung parang design sa mga wall para "wallpaper" ang dating. pero paint lang sya. ganung gaspang.
so pano ung sa namuong paint? sanding na talaga ung solution dun? gusto ko lang kasi siguraduhin eh. kasi kung hindi, papabayaan ko nalang na may umbok ung gitara ko. hehe.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: abyssinianson on April 22, 2008, 05:09:45 AM
magaspang= ung parang design sa mga wall para "wallpaper" ang dating. pero paint lang sya. ganung gaspang.
so pano ung sa namuong paint? sanding na talaga ung solution dun? gusto ko lang kasi siguraduhin eh. kasi kung hindi, papabayaan ko nalang na may umbok ung gitara ko. hehe.
ah, yun pala. pwede mo i-sand. subukan mo na mag wet sand ng very fine na grain sandpaper at dahan dahan lang para ma even yung umbok sa surrounding area sa finish mo.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Jaco D on April 22, 2008, 06:34:03 AM
Yung nagbuo ako ng Warmoth Gecko bass ang ginawa ko one week between coats not only for the thin coats of poly to dry but to cure as well. Di ko alam kung sapat iyan o kulang o sobra, pero maganda ang kinalabasan niya. Dapat pasensiyoso ka otherwise masisira lang ang trabaho mo.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: ungwalapa on April 22, 2008, 07:54:16 AM
ok try ko mga sinabi nyo. thanks jaco d and abyssinianson.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: p2ltronilogd on September 01, 2008, 10:53:16 AM
guys any step by step guide on how to repaint a guitar?
i'm thinkin on doing it myself...
thanks!
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: greasykid on September 01, 2008, 07:32:59 PM
guys any step by step guide on how to repaint a guitar?
i'm thinkin on doing it myself...
thanks!
Basahin mo kaya yung buong thread? Ang daming links at tips.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Jagmaster on March 16, 2009, 11:30:08 AM
i'm planning to repaint my guitar from aged white to wine red. the guitar has lots of scratches already so i wanted to make restore it. will there be a huge effect to the sound or will it be better if i leave my guitar that way? i'm also planning to just peel off the paint to show the wood grain so which will be better for you guys? i really need your help.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: j3yps on October 07, 2009, 07:13:55 PM
do you guys know anybody that could "Swirl" my guitar?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: sedrik_05_19 on October 14, 2009, 09:27:58 PM
mga bro. magkano kaya aabutin mag repaint ng guitar? what yung mga materials? mga gano katagal gawin?? ggwin ko sana sa guitar ko from red to white. yun. tnx.! :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: sedrik_05_19 on October 19, 2009, 09:00:28 PM
phelp nmn po! :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Hellghast on October 20, 2009, 11:42:36 AM
mga bro. magkano kaya aabutin mag repaint ng guitar? what yung mga materials? mga gano katagal gawin?? ggwin ko sana sa guitar ko from red to white. yun. tnx.! :-D
you'll be needing all of these:
paint stripper = 150php Bondo or masilya (if ever may dings) = ?? sand paper 1000, 800, 500, 400 grit approx 3pcs of each depending how you sand. = 14php sanding sealer spray = 200php(?) Primer spray = 140 Base color coat approx 2-3 cans = 130php(gloss) 2++php(metalic) Clear coat approx 3-4 cans = 130php buffing cream or rubbing compound = 40php (good for one use) PATIENCE = 99999999999999999999php - priceless
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: tweenty-seven on October 21, 2009, 03:42:00 PM
paint stripper = 150php Bondo or masilya (if ever may dings) = ?? sand paper 1000, 800, 500, 400 grit approx 3pcs of each depending how you sand. = 14php sanding sealer spray = 200php(?) Primer spray = 140 Base color coat approx 2-3 cans = 130php(gloss) 2++php(metalic) Clear coat approx 3-4 cans = 130php buffing cream or rubbing compound = 40php (good for one use) PATIENCE = 99999999999999999999php - priceless
duct tape - 500-700php :-D
thread starter,kung medyo takot ka pa, try mo muna humanap ng lumang guitar parang project guitar mo for repainting para makapag praktis ka,minsan nag ba bubbles yung spray paint kapag di tama.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: sedrik_05_19 on October 22, 2009, 08:22:22 PM
can repainting a guitar affect its tone? like ung lumang gitara tapos aged na ung finish.
yeah it depends on what type of paint you use and how many layers of paint you use example ung lumang gitara na aged na yung finish remove the paint and try playing it it will be brighter and when you paint it with a lot of layers the tone will become darker
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: papotzki85 on October 24, 2009, 05:35:20 PM
ako la ako alam dito hehehe kaya sa sm north edsa ko pinatira custom ko kaso this monday ko pa makukuha hehehe :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: raphy137 on October 30, 2009, 03:55:13 PM
ano po kayang magandan kulay para sa gibson sg ? need suggestions ! hehe ! kay mang max ako magpapapaint ! malapit lang samin 2 ! isang sakayan lang ! BWAHAHAH !
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: red_hot on November 03, 2009, 03:39:34 PM
ano po kayang magandan kulay para sa gibson sg ? need suggestions ! hehe ! kay mang max ako magpapapaint ! malapit lang samin 2 ! isang sakayan lang ! BWAHAHAH !
seryoso ka ba bro pa repaint mo yan..... Gibson wow parang RJ lang ah hehehhe
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: red_hot on November 03, 2009, 09:15:04 PM
do you guys know anybody that could "Swirl" my guitar?
may nakita na akong ganito sa youtube dati sir.. meron silang lagayan na parang drum tpos im not sure kung water un or oil. then ilalagay ung mga paint dun(cguro oil based paint para di humalo sa tubig) then idi-dip slowly ung guitar body. cool nga eh.. gusto ko sana gayahin pero nakakatakot baka pumalpak.. heheh
anyways i just found the vid. here it is.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: paulo0027 on November 07, 2009, 08:32:41 AM
san ba may shop na nagpaint ng gitara?? meron b nun sa RJ or sa JB music??
sa jb magtx ka kay mis.mav alam ko mayrepaint pero ung mga galing sa kanila ung guitar
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: nyeks550 on November 11, 2009, 01:26:31 PM
ask ko lang,does the paint affects the sound/tone of your guitar? nabasa ko sa isang article gibson guys said that it gives daw much warmer tones etc. blah blah. is this true?
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Post by: zakk21 on November 11, 2009, 05:21:02 PM
ai..gnun b??RJ kasi guitar ko...pero meron paint job sa JB??
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Post by: paulo0027 on November 16, 2009, 04:04:38 AM
ako la ako alam dito hehehe kaya sa sm north edsa ko pinatira custom ko kaso this monday ko pa makukuha hehehe :-D
saan po ba sa smnOrth??? :? :? :? :? :? :?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: jingo on November 17, 2009, 11:19:19 AM
i'll have to play with my burst strat body 1st before making it a seafoam green by a professional luthier. gamit ko, lighter and anything i can find in the house. :-D
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: r_chino18 on November 17, 2009, 11:31:50 AM
ask ko lang,does the paint affects the sound/tone of your guitar? nabasa ko sa isang article gibson guys said that it gives daw much warmer tones etc. blah blah. is this true?
of course.. syempre nagvvibrate ang wood as you strum the strings.. paint affects it in a way coz sometimes it lessens the vibrations of the pores of the wood, etc.. kanya-kanyang taste nalang din yan.. katulad ko, i chose a PRS SE Standard kasi matte/satin finish lang.. compared sa Santana SE na gloss finish, etc.. to me, the Santana sounded treblier at the same amp settings.. and the Standard much warmer.. pero marami parin factors na dapat iconsider, hindi lang paint.. like hardware, construction nung mga joints, pati not all same woods give out the same tone.. but that's another story..
long story short, yes, paint affects the sound/tone of the guitar mainly due to resonation..
@sick_angel cool video you found.. parang gusto ko yan gawin sa magiging DIY pedal project ko.. hehe..
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: rockstan on November 19, 2009, 08:02:30 AM
na try ko na dati mag pintura courtesy of my tito. pero pwede ba ang pylox?
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Post by: appleseed on April 25, 2010, 12:18:34 PM
pwd ung pylox. pero mas maganda ung pa compressor mas pino ung buga ng paint. :roll:
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Post by: tweenty-seven on April 25, 2010, 03:28:04 PM
anong klase ng paint yung pang "swirl" ng guita paint?
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Post by: colorless krayola on April 25, 2010, 08:26:40 PM
gamit ko spray paint lang... tapos finish ng clear... ayus naman kinalabasan... wag nyo lang pipilitin na gamitin agad... hahaha nakadalawang ulet ako, kasi nun una ndi pa masyado tuyo ginamit ko na, yun nasira yun paint nagkaroon ng kulubot.. hahaha i suggest patuyuin nyo muna for 3-4 days... check nyo yun sakin... nasa signature ko, yun washburn X10...
salamat!
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: bhaahchico on April 25, 2010, 11:15:38 PM
hehe wait nyo lang to on going na wala lang pera sa tools pero malapi na haha
pag na finish ko na gawa ko sya ng compilation.. pics ng habang ginagawa then mga material hehe..
research padin ako..and help sa may mga alam :wink:
oh my huhuhuh palpak yung paint ko nagbutlig at namuo yung pintura hays..
pero gawan ko ng paraan diko mapost nasira kasi yung cp ko na may cam eh nag emergency cp lang ako na mumurahin.. pero try ko ipost ulit yung guitar ko
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Post by: Rmansh on May 17, 2010, 11:37:31 PM
^looking good
ano ang next step?
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Post by: albertos on May 18, 2010, 12:18:14 AM
nice.. i' also planning to repaint mine.. hahahaa
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Post by: H4cks4w on May 18, 2010, 12:35:27 AM
natry namin magrepaint ng bass guitar dati ng tropa.. smooth na smooth nilabasan ng pagkakarepaint kulay black after a month nagfade ung pagkagloss nya tapos nagbitak-bitak ung paint nya di ko alam bakit at kung ano mali namin pero astig ganda, trip na trip ko yung pagkakabitak gothic na gothic ang dating :lol:
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: fadetogrey on January 05, 2011, 01:46:11 PM
saan mura at magandang mag pa re-paint ng gitara?
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Post by: rowley75 on January 05, 2011, 02:31:19 PM
saan pwede magparetouch ng matte finish na gitara?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: r_chino18 on January 05, 2011, 02:47:08 PM
saan pwede magparetouch ng matte finish na gitara?
A friend told me that Elegee can do matte/flat finishes on a guitar. Try mo iconsult sa kanya yung gitara kung kaya iretouch. :-)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: coy_2cute on January 05, 2011, 03:11:28 PM
Medyo Off Topic.. My humble question:
I have a Les Paul copy with Goldtop/Lemondrop color, i just dont like how the paint seems to hide or block the "stripes" on the Maple top of my guitar. Is there any way to somehow strip or make the paint/finish a bit thinner para lang lumitaw yung Maple top "stripes"?
Thanks a lot mga ka-PhilMu! More power! :lol:
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: rowley75 on January 05, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
I have a Les Paul copy with Goldtop/Lemondrop color, i just dont like how the paint seems to hide or block the "stripes" on the Maple top of my guitar. Is there any way to somehow strip or make the paint/finish a bit thinner para lang lumitaw yung Maple top "stripes"?
Thanks a lot mga ka-PhilMu! More power! :lol:
so you mean you want it flamed maple top? IMO. you need to repaint it, have it oiled and a thin coat of gold for it to be transparent.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: fadetogrey on January 05, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
mag papare-paint ako ng LP, ano ba maganda, Black Beauty o BUrst types?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: coy_2cute on January 06, 2011, 09:13:16 AM
so you mean you want it flamed maple top? IMO. you need to repaint it, have it oiled and a thin coat of gold for it to be transparent.
Not necessarily a repaint Sir, parang gusto ko lang na mas noticeable yung Maple Top sa LP ko..
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: Nolan0106 on January 06, 2011, 11:29:46 AM
Yo sirs! paano kung acoustic guitar yung irerepaint? same lang ba process?
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Post by: fadetogrey on January 06, 2011, 02:09:43 PM
san mura at magandang mag pa re-paint ng gitara?
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Post by: demet on January 06, 2011, 02:47:01 PM
Haven't posted in a while but this caught my attention.
Part of my work in construction is finishing wood surfaces for cabinets, tables, etc. Here are some thoughts that I have that we use in practice:
1. Natural finish - you can get away with an awesome looking finish with any kind of wood. Of course, mas maganda talaga yung good quality wood. So in this case na refinishing lang, whatever you have would do. Except for solid bodies na pinagdikit(like some squiers I'ave seen) - to remove paint, stripsol works well on wood. Let the liquid cure, then simply wipe it off. Once the wood is exposed, sand it lightly with fine sand paper. - from there, coat it with sanding sealer, boysen supplies it. From there, you can do one more sanding tapos another layer of sanding sealer. - depending on how dark you want it, you can choose whatever kind of stain that you'd like to use. you can spray it, or wipe it with a piece of cloth. both would work. stain lang kasi. - as always, let it dry well before doing any new coats. - from there, you can coat it depending on how shiny you want it. Here are your options: - satin finish - meaning varnishing it, then wetsanding it with a find sand paper - clear gloss - spray it lightly in several light coats - polyurethane finish - use with polyurethane reducer if you want to spray it, spray it lightly with several coats. careful lang in mixing pu, once you mix the 2 cans together, you have to use it immediately kasi magiging gulaman yan sa lata(from experience) - polyurethane finish gives your gutiar a high gloss finish, which looks like it has a thin layer of glass all around it.
2. painting - same procedure (stripsol, sanding, more sanding, kahit wala nang sanding sealer) - minsan polytuff gamit namin to give it a good clean duco finish, or any base paint that you can buy, preferably flat, tapos sanding again - apply the paint in several light coats - when necessary, sand it again, then spray again - spray at least a foot away from the object and wag babad, pasada lang, meaning don't spray in the same spot for a long time, you should just wave your sprayer across the surface of the paint, - as always let it dry well
3. would help if you had an orbital sander, you have more control, a belt sander is good for the curved edges of you guitar, but not for the surface
hope it helps
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: coy_2cute on January 06, 2011, 03:53:35 PM
Haven't posted in a while but this caught my attention.
Part of my work in construction is finishing wood surfaces for cabinets, tables, etc. Here are some thoughts that I have that we use in practice:
1. Natural finish - you can get away with an awesome looking finish with any kind of wood. Of course, mas maganda talaga yung good quality wood. So in this case na refinishing lang, whatever you have would do. Except for solid bodies na pinagdikit(like some squiers I'ave seen) - to remove paint, stripsol works well on wood. Let the liquid cure, then simply wipe it off. Once the wood is exposed, sand it lightly with fine sand paper. - from there, coat it with sanding sealer, boysen supplies it. From there, you can do one more sanding tapos another layer of sanding sealer. - depending on how dark you want it, you can choose whatever kind of stain that you'd like to use. you can spray it, or wipe it with a piece of cloth. both would work. stain lang kasi. - as always, let it dry well before doing any new coats. - from there, you can coat it depending on how shiny you want it. Here are your options: - satin finish - meaning varnishing it, then wetsanding it with a find sand paper - clear gloss - spray it lightly in several light coats - polyurethane finish - use with polyurethane reducer if you want to spray it, spray it lightly with several coats. careful lang in mixing pu, once you mix the 2 cans together, you have to use it immediately kasi magiging gulaman yan sa lata(from experience) - polyurethane finish gives your gutiar a high gloss finish, which looks like it has a thin layer of glass all around it.
2. painting - same procedure (stripsol, sanding, more sanding, kahit wala nang sanding sealer) - minsan polytuff gamit namin to give it a good clean duco finish, or any base paint that you can buy, preferably flat, tapos sanding again - apply the paint in several light coats - when necessary, sand it again, then spray again - spray at least a foot away from the object and wag babad, pasada lang, meaning don't spray in the same spot for a long time, you should just wave your sprayer across the surface of the paint, - as always let it dry well
3. would help if you had an orbital sander, you have more control, a belt sander is good for the curved edges of you guitar, but not for the surface
hope it helps
Thanks for the input sir! So kaya pa pala masolusyunan yung inquiry ko earlier regarding my guitar..
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: free2rock on January 06, 2011, 11:18:37 PM
I have a Les Paul copy with Goldtop/Lemondrop color, i just dont like how the paint seems to hide or block the "stripes" on the Maple top of my guitar. Is there any way to somehow strip or make the paint/finish a bit thinner para lang lumitaw yung Maple top "stripes"?
Thanks a lot mga ka-PhilMu! More power! :lol:
In order to pop the grain in maple, I suggest applying a darker stain first. First strip the lacquer down to the wood, then sealer, then apply the dark stain. You then sand lightly, leaving just the stain absorbed in the grain, then apply the preferred stain shade.
I think I have some pics when I repaired my LP. (That is if I find the time to upload to photobucket... I hate organizing pics :-P)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: free2rock on January 06, 2011, 11:23:04 PM
Haven't posted in a while but this caught my attention.
Part of my work in construction is finishing wood surfaces for cabinets, tables, etc. Here are some thoughts that I have that we use in practice:
1. Natural finish - you can get away with an awesome looking finish with any kind of wood. Of course, mas maganda talaga yung good quality wood. So in this case na refinishing lang, whatever you have would do. Except for solid bodies na pinagdikit(like some squiers I'ave seen) - to remove paint, stripsol works well on wood. Let the liquid cure, then simply wipe it off. Once the wood is exposed, sand it lightly with fine sand paper. - from there, coat it with sanding sealer, boysen supplies it. From there, you can do one more sanding tapos another layer of sanding sealer. - depending on how dark you want it, you can choose whatever kind of stain that you'd like to use. you can spray it, or wipe it with a piece of cloth. both would work. stain lang kasi. - as always, let it dry well before doing any new coats. - from there, you can coat it depending on how shiny you want it. Here are your options: - satin finish - meaning varnishing it, then wetsanding it with a find sand paper - clear gloss - spray it lightly in several light coats - polyurethane finish - use with polyurethane reducer if you want to spray it, spray it lightly with several coats. careful lang in mixing pu, once you mix the 2 cans together, you have to use it immediately kasi magiging gulaman yan sa lata(from experience) - polyurethane finish gives your gutiar a high gloss finish, which looks like it has a thin layer of glass all around it.
2. painting - same procedure (stripsol, sanding, more sanding, kahit wala nang sanding sealer) - minsan polytuff gamit namin to give it a good clean duco finish, or any base paint that you can buy, preferably flat, tapos sanding again - apply the paint in several light coats - when necessary, sand it again, then spray again - spray at least a foot away from the object and wag babad, pasada lang, meaning don't spray in the same spot for a long time, you should just wave your sprayer across the surface of the paint, - as always let it dry well
3. would help if you had an orbital sander, you have more control, a belt sander is good for the curved edges of you guitar, but not for the surface
hope it helps
A lot of builders and luthiers suggest Nitrocellulose paint for guitars. Polyurethane is essentially plastic and will dampen the tone a bit. The key is letting your guitar breath so the wood quality will be apparent in the sound.
Which kinda makes me interested in the Tru-Oil finish. No lacquer. :-)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: coy_2cute on January 07, 2011, 10:15:18 AM
In order to pop the grain in maple, I suggest applying a darker stain first. First strip the lacquer down to the wood, then sealer, then apply the dark stain. You then sand lightly, leaving just the stain absorbed in the grain, then apply the preferred stain shade.
I think I have some pics when I repaired my LP. (That is if I find the time to upload to photobucket... I hate organizing pics :-P)
Thanks for your inputs Sir! magkano kaya aabutin nito kung ipapagawa ko sa Luthier?
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: PhosHilaron on January 07, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
Tanung ko lang po....
san po pwedeng mag pa re-paint ng hardware? :)
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: free2rock on January 07, 2011, 08:11:33 PM
Anong hardware ba gusto mo ipa-paint? If you're talking about the metal hardware like the bridge, I don't recommend doing this. Madali kasi mag chip yung paint.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: PhosHilaron on January 07, 2011, 08:41:46 PM
Anong hardware ba gusto mo ipa-paint? If you're talking about the metal hardware like the bridge, I don't recommend doing this. Madali kasi mag chip yung paint.
ang sabi ni sir jon poweder dar ginagamit dun di ko alam kung panu gawin... :)
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Post by: PhosHilaron on January 25, 2011, 12:42:47 PM
san ba pwedeng mag pa re-paint, yung hindi ako magsisi sa presyo at sa quality...? any suggestions, at pa post na rin ng pictures ng pina repaint nyo... thanks!
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: daien on January 25, 2011, 10:36:33 PM
pano tanggalin ang pintura? un parang pinupunas lang? ano tawag dun at mag kano un? para sa strat ko. papalitan ko to white to wood finished. thx sana matulungan nyo ko.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: free2rock on January 26, 2011, 02:33:40 PM
pano tanggalin ang pintura? un parang pinupunas lang? ano tawag dun at mag kano un? para sa strat ko. papalitan ko to white to wood finished. thx sana matulungan nyo ko.
Paint stripper? Go to a hardware store. Mabaho nga lang. Best option parin is scraping IMO.
Title: Re: Painting Guitars
Post by: daien on January 26, 2011, 07:00:25 PM