Author Topic: help buying a new video card for games (Read 10995 times)

badongrodrigs · « **Reply #50 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:25:48 PM »

the best bang for my buck was the 9600GT 512mb 256bit; i can play Prototype in full settings, no lag. Can you beat that for PHP3,900.00? no way. hahaha!

sjon014 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 05, 2009, 03:42:23 PM »

I miss quoting specs.

Anyway, based on your post above, I think you got your eye on the 9800-series cards. For 17k, it's a bit of a stretch.

Here are two possible setups:

In the first one, I tried to use the new AM3 platform, and I got a nice all-solid caps motherboard. I overshot the budget though.
The second one is in the 17k area, but I chose the older AM2+, and a cheap board. The rest of the specs are equal.

The quotes lack optical drives, the case, and peripherals. All prices are from PCHub in Gilmore.

YM me if you wanna talk about it.

AM3 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

MSI 770-C45 AM3 - 3800

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310

Total = 19280

AM2 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon X2™ 5200+ 2.6ghz - 2795

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430

Kingston 2GB DDR2-667 - 2500

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310

Total = 17185

bgomez · « **Reply #52 on:** November 05, 2009, 10:17:41 PM »

Quote from: sjon014 on November 05, 2009, 03:42:23 PM

I miss quoting specs.

Anyway, based on your post above, I think you got your eye on the 9800-series cards. For 17k, it's a bit of a stretch.

Here are two possible setups:

In the first one, I tried to use the new AM3 platform, and I got a nice all-solid caps motherboard. I overshot the budget though.
The second one is in the 17k area, but I chose the older AM2+, and a cheap board. The rest of the specs are equal.

The quotes lack optical drives, the case, and peripherals. All prices are from PCHub in Gilmore.

YM me if you wanna talk about it.

AM3 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

MSI 770-C45 AM3 - 3800

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310

Total = 19280

AM2 Gaming Rig

AMD™ Athlon X2™ 5200+ 2.6ghz - 2795

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430

Kingston 2GB DDR2-667 - 2500

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

Palit GTS 250 512mb/256bit ddr3 Green Edition - 5310

Total = 17185

Cash price?

sjon014 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 05, 2009, 10:21:58 PM »

Quote from: bgomez on November 05, 2009, 10:17:41 PM

Cash price?

Yeah. I haven't tried paying through card in PCHub. I doubt they have the facilities though.

pii_bulacan · « **Reply #54 on:** November 06, 2009, 05:04:48 PM »

Thank you very much Sir sjon014!

i try to mixed it up to cut some bucks...

can you check this out Sir if this will work just fine, for me to play NBA2K10...

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

NVIDIA® GeForce® 9600 GT - 3900

Total = 16500

and whats the best LCD monitor for gaming na rin sir? (4k budget)

sjon014 · « **Reply #55 on:** November 06, 2009, 09:11:24 PM »

Quote from: pii_bulacan on November 06, 2009, 05:04:48 PM

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

Gigabyte GA-M61PME-S2P - 2430

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

Total = 16500

Bro, the motherboard you chose won't work with the processor and the RAM. It's a different socket. The processor is AM3, and the RAM is DDR3. The motherboard in red is AM2+. AM2+ supports only DDR2, whereas AM3 supports DDR3.

The 9600GT is fine. If you want add 600 pesos though, you get a 9800GT. Just sayin'. It's a really nice upgrade for a few hundred bucks.

Palit 9800GT for 4,540 pesos!

As for an LCD... any brand is fine with regards to gaming, because ghosting is a thing of the past. Of course, with your budget, you're limited to 16-inchers and TN panels.

This was the cheapest I could find.
Chimei 16" Wide LCD for 4,750 pesos.
Don't trust Chimei? Acer and Samsung will net you a few hundred more. Chimei is pretty reputable though, since they make panels for LG and Samsung.

pii_bulacan · « **Reply #56 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:01:32 PM »

@Sir sjon014, Thanks bro...

How about this set up sir?

AMD™ Athlon™ II X2 240 2.8 ghz Dual-Core Processor(AM3) - 3050

MSI 770-C45 AM3 - 3800

Transcend 2gb DDR3-1333 - 2340

320GB Seagate SATA 7200.12 - 2280

ACBel iPower 510 PSU - 2500

NVIDIA® GeForce® 9800 GT - 4540

Total = 18510

sjon014 · « **Reply #57 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:05:32 PM »

Perfect.

Those will play recent games at high settings - and I'm sure you'll be able to play future games decently.

You could shave off a few hundred if you downgrade the motherboard to something cheaper (although I wouldn't), and you could also go for less HD space, kaso minus 200 lang yun.

pii_bulacan · « **Reply #58 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:15:03 PM »

Quote from: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 10:05:32 PM

Perfect. Those will play recent games at high settings - and I'm sure you'll be able to play future games decently.

You could shave off a few hundred if you downgrade the motherboard to something cheaper (although I wouldn't), and you could also go for less HD space, kaso minus 200 lang yun.

Alright!

ill go for this set up...

Thank you very much bro.. ur a big help!

badongrodrigs · « **Reply #59 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:26:39 PM »

stop stop! change the mobo! plan for the future! go SLI!

bisckye · « **Reply #60 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:36:33 PM »

guys yung bang mobo ko maganda na for games pag sinaksakan ko ng branded PSU at Nvidia GeForce 9800gt??
(Asus P5L-MX)

sjon014 · « **Reply #61 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:38:21 PM »

Quote from: badongrodrigs on November 06, 2009, 10:26:39 PM

stop stop! change the mobo! plan for the future! go SLI!

Pwede rin! Kaso the cheapest mobo with SLI for AM3 (damn those AM3 mobos are hard to find) is an ECS (albeit a high-end one), and it costs 5.7k.
ECS A790GXM-AD3

Saw some SLI benchies though. Twin 9600GT's scale REALLY well.

Oh bro pii_bulacan, that's another option for you to consider. Ain't it fun building rigs?

sjon014 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:43:38 PM »

Quote from: bisckye on November 06, 2009, 10:36:33 PM

guys yung bang mobo ko maganda na for games pag sinaksakan ko ng branded PSU at Nvidia GeForce 9800gt??
(Asus P5L-MX)

Mobos aren't that big a factor when it comes to gaming naman. When you see motherboards compared head-to-head in gaming benchmarks, usually single-digit lang ang difference sa FPS (Frames per second). Of course, I'm factoring out the 15,000-peso enthusiast motherboards such as the Maximii, Rampages, Eclipses, etc.

Your mobo has an old chipset though. i945 was supposedly paired with Pentium D, four years ago. The limitation I can see is you won't be able to use new Penryn Core 2's (the old Core 2's will work fine though). It might be slower than motherboards with new chipsets, but again, the difference IN GAMES will be minute. You'll still enjoy lots of gaming horsepower if you buy a branded PSU and a 9800GT.

badongrodrigs · « **Reply #63 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:49:06 PM »

Quote from: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 10:38:21 PM

Twin 9600GT's scale REALLY well.

i'd like to try it someday hehe wala na ako makitang stock ng 9600GT with same specs eh

my mobo is the MSI K9N2 SLI Platinum, AM2 socket tho.

bisckye · « **Reply #64 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:55:33 PM »

Quote from: sjon014 on November 06, 2009, 10:43:38 PM

Mobos aren't that big a factor when it comes to gaming naman. When you see motherboards compared head-to-head in gaming benchmarks, usually single-digit lang ang difference sa FPS (Frames per second). Of course, I'm factoring out the 15,000-peso enthusiast motherboards such as the Maximii, Rampages, Eclipses, etc.

Your mobo has an old chipset though. i945 was supposedly paired with Pentium D, four years ago. The limitation I can see is you won't be able to use new Penryn Core 2's (the old Core 2's will work fine though). It might be slower than motherboards with new chipsets, but again, the difference IN GAMES will be minute. You'll still enjoy lots of gaming horsepower if you buy a branded PSU and a 9800GT.

thanks for the information again sir!

pii_bulacan · « **Reply #65 on:** November 06, 2009, 10:56:08 PM »

Oh bro pii_bulacan, that's another option for you to consider. Ain't it fun building rigs?

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Yeah! im having fun... finding funds!

bisckye · « **Reply #66 on:** November 15, 2009, 04:23:16 PM »

tanung ko ulit

anu ba mas maganda for budget sa power supply
acbel 510/450w or acbel 560/510w?

kasi sabi nila yung acbel 560/510 wala na daw stock ng without led.... ang mahal naman kasi eh..... 3k+ yung with led... yung acbel 510/450w 2.2k mas mura...

bgomez · « **Reply #67 on:** November 15, 2009, 06:14:19 PM »

Quote from: bisckye on November 15, 2009, 04:23:16 PM

tanung ko ulit

anu ba mas maganda for budget sa power supply
acbel 510/450w or acbel 560/510w?

kasi sabi nila yung acbel 560/510 wala na daw stock ng without led.... ang mahal naman kasi eh..... 3k+ yung with led... yung acbel 510/450w 2.2k mas mura...

It depends on what you need. Although the 560W is more expensive you won't need to buy a new power supply if your power requirements would exceed 450W.

bisckye · « **Reply #68 on:** November 16, 2009, 10:43:14 AM »

Quote from: bgomez on November 15, 2009, 06:14:19 PM

It depends on what you need. Although the 560W is more expensive you won't need to buy a new power supply if your power requirements would exceed 450W.

how will i know if my computer would exceed 450w??

bgomez · « **Reply #69 on:** November 16, 2009, 12:06:31 PM »

Quote from: bisckye on November 16, 2009, 10:43:14 AM

how will i know if my computer would exceed 450w??

Here you go bro

http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

bisckye · « **Reply #70 on:** November 16, 2009, 08:17:32 PM »

sir hinde ko po alam yung sa HARD DRIVES
ung hdds na ilalagay hinde ko alam
help naman po

sjon014 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 16, 2009, 11:59:40 PM »

If you bought it within the last few years, it's a 7200rpm drive.

If the data cable is ribbon-type, (flat and broad) it's IDE. If the cable is slim, it's SATA.

10,000rpm drives are uncommon, and so are SCSI ones. Your drive is 5400rpm only if it's really old. As for Green drives go, only the "Green editions" are "Green". (ex. Western Digital Caviar Green)

So there's a good chance your drive is IDE 7200rpm or SATA 7200rpm depending on the connector used.

bisckye · « **Reply #72 on:** November 18, 2009, 11:23:01 PM »

guys nakabili na po ako nung acbel power supply 510w yung nakalagay. . .
video card na ang susunod. . .
yung palit 9800 gt magkano po?? hinde po yung green

sjon014 · « **Reply #73 on:** November 19, 2009, 12:02:12 AM »

Cheapest I've seen it is 4640.

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3682842

bisckye · « **Reply #74 on:** November 19, 2009, 10:36:01 PM »

ah.
may nag sabi sakin na ang inno3d daw ay pangit...
is that true?

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Author Topic: help buying a new video card for games (Read 10995 times)