hulika

Author Topic: Vintage fender amps appreciation  (Read 34480 times)

Offline siore

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Vintage fender amps appreciation
« on: March 08, 2012, 01:38:51 AM »
@ r_chino18

Let's try this.  Do the first pics!

Here's everything and anything tweed, brownface, blonde, blackface, and silverface.  Cutoff maybe at the years around the ultralinears.  Should we peg the vintage to around and before '76 - '77?  Just general talk.  Hopefully we can leave the tech info, troubleshooting and diagnosing problems out of it, so that the shy fender owners can come out of the woodwork!  But circuit discussions are also encouraged, makiramdam na lang if noses are bleeding.  All in the spirit of fun fender ownership basically!

Remember, pics are welcome!  Share the acquisition story, first impressions, first mishaps, first few gigs, etc.

08062012 edit:  some links to help you on your first "new old amp"!

Overview of vintage fenders (fender field amp guide)

When's my amp made?

How fender amps work (layman's terms)

Pulling tubes and other fender twin basic tricks

The wettest reverb and tremolo out of a fender reverb amp?... jumper the inputs!!
« Last Edit: August 06, 2012, 11:42:46 PM by siore »
soundclick.com/siore
youtube.com/user/siore

Offline teleclem

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2012, 06:17:40 AM »
Will have one soon, hopefully :)

Offline gainsucker

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2012, 08:00:40 AM »

Had one, 1970's dual showman, which i had to let go 4 years ago. It was my first tube amp. I sold it to fraudulentzodiac and don't know where it is now.



Payat ko pa noon  :oops:

feature=youtube_gdata_player

Offline greasykid

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2012, 01:11:00 PM »
My first tube amp was a SF Twin Reverb.  Got frustrated with it for not breaking up at 10.  Haha!  Didn't know it really wouldn't. 

Lito Bote posted 3 Silverface Fenders for sale here around 5 years ago.  Others were a Dual Showman rehoused in 2x12 combo and a Super Reverb.  My brother and I trooped to his house ASAP.  Wanted to take home the Super Reverb, too but I think it had an issue.

The amp had already been rewired when I got it.  Didn't matter though because it still sounds really good, specially after a recap with cheap Alexan eletrolytics





 I replaced the grille cloth but stupid me put it in reverse side out. 




Tried some speakers in it, too.  Put in an impedance switch so I can use the speakers with other amps.





Offline siore

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2012, 01:55:50 PM »
^^Nice!!  So you've tried both patriots and redcoats eh? :)

Here's mine, [size=6.5pt]post ko na old pics before the big boys find their way here[/size]. :wink:  Tagal ni r_chino18 eh!!





I can push the front end quite a bit on the vibrato channel on this particular amp.


Almost cried when I first got it [size=6.5pt](hyperbole)[/size]. Instant tonal bliss. :-D To this day, it puts a smile on my face every time I plug in.  Always pure.  And humbling at the same time.  I dunno if you guys understand the feeling.  Sure with an old amp it has ups and downs, but thanks to the guys on here who helped me out during tough times (you know who you are!).
soundclick.com/siore
youtube.com/user/siore


Offline cayle

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2012, 02:05:49 PM »
OT: May klase pa eh kaya di makapost.  :-D

Offline gainsucker

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2012, 02:06:31 PM »
Mismo yung tone siore

Offline siore

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2012, 02:09:53 PM »
Thanks bro.  Your vid was also one of the first ones I came across when I was researching the amp out.  All good stuff.
soundclick.com/siore
youtube.com/user/siore

Offline r_chino18

  • Patambay tambay na
  • Philmusicus Supremus
  • ******
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2012, 03:24:51 PM »
^^Nice!!  So you've tried both patriots and redcoats eh? :)

Here's mine, [size=6.5pt]post ko na old pics before the big boys find their way here[/size]. :wink: Tagal ni r_chino18 eh!!

Almost cried when I first got it [size=6.5pt](hyperbole)[/size]. Instant tonal bliss. :-D To this day, it puts a smile on my face every time I plug in.  Always pure.  And humbling at the same time.  I dunno if you guys understand the feeling.  Sure with an old amp it has ups and downs, but thanks to the guys on here who helped me out during tough times (you know who you are!).

Just got home.. Will be making another 2x12 cab soon.. Hehe.. I'll try to post some pics of my amp later.. :)

Offline kernelsalonpas

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2012, 03:55:39 PM »
great amp siore. anong speakers gamit mo dyan?

masyado naman selective ung club nyo.. kelangan vintage... hirap makasali  :cry: hehe
no pic, no advise...

Offline r_chino18

  • Patambay tambay na
  • Philmusicus Supremus
  • ******
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2012, 04:55:28 PM »
Thanks siore for starting this thread. :)
Here's my '74-75 Fender Dual Showman Reverb head on a Bassman shell.
2x12 cab with non-Fender 50-watt speakers. Cab is still being restored. Got it without the back cover and had a fuzzy exterior that I just had to retolex. Still lacking is a front panel with a grille cloth. to follow...  :-)
Got the head also without a back cover, made one and tolexed it as well.

Paging sir upfront...  :-)











« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 05:16:51 PM by r_chino18 »

Offline jimny

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2012, 06:32:37 PM »
i got '66 bassman 50 w/ 3 prong power cable removed the death capacitor and recently recaps by Kinetic
i'l post pics later

Offline teleclem

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2012, 08:16:17 PM »
i got '66 bassman 50 w/ 3 prong power cable removed the death capacitor and recently recaps by Kinetic
i'l post pics later

Who did the changes?

Offline jimny

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2012, 08:24:46 PM »
Quote
Who did the changes?
3prong cable and death caps by Mang Raul and Tech from Kinetic Audio for recaps, all capacitors courtesy of spanky
here's the pic


« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 08:28:49 PM by jimny »

Offline jeo

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2012, 08:48:50 PM »
Whats the threshold to be considered a vintage fender amps? atleast 30 or 25 years?  :-D
>Use your ears, dont worry about the hype!>"Not everything that counts can be measured and not everything you can measure counts">TECHNIQUE is in the FINGERS & TONE is more in the GEAR>HIYAW, if you didnt get it, its your problem not mine>killed ur killer

Offline echo_ikaw

  • Veteran Member
  • ****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2012, 10:07:02 PM »
To All, Ganda ng mga amps nyo!  :)
« Last Edit: March 08, 2012, 10:08:41 PM by echo_ikaw »

Offline upfront

  • Senior Member
  • ***
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2012, 11:05:23 PM »
Ding dong! Thanks for the initiative Siore! Just got home. Will post some pics later  :drool:
Thanks siore for starting this thread. :)
Here's my '74-75 Fender Dual Showman Reverb head on a Bassman shell.
2x12 cab with non-Fender 50-watt speakers. Cab is still being restored. Got it without the back cover and had a fuzzy exterior that I just had to retolex. Still lacking is a front panel with a grille cloth. to follow...  :-)
Got the head also without a back cover, made one and tolexed it as well.

Paging sir upfront...  :-)













Di ko na nakilala ah. Ganda na bro!
^^Nice!!  So you've tried both patriots and redcoats eh? :)

Here's mine, [size=6.5pt]post ko na old pics before the big boys find their way here[/size]. :wink:  Tagal ni r_chino18 eh!!





I can push the front end quite a bit on the vibrato channel on this particular amp.


Almost cried when I first got it [size=6.5pt](hyperbole)[/size]. Instant tonal bliss. :-D To this day, it puts a smile on my face every time I plug in.  Always pure.  And humbling at the same time.  I dunno if you guys understand the feeling.  Sure with an old amp it has ups and downs, but thanks to the guys on here who helped me out during tough times (you know who you are!).

This is neat... Ganda!

Offline Ryn

  • Forum Fanatic
  • ****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2012, 11:12:33 PM »
Ding dong! Thanks for the initiative Siore! Just got home. Will post some pics later  :drool:
Di ko na nakilala ah. Ganda na bro!
This is neat... Ganda!

paki-post na nga yung mga vintage fender amps ko na pintago ko sayo.

Offline siore

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2012, 11:14:20 PM »
Whats the threshold to be considered a vintage fender amps? atleast 30 or 25 years?  :-D

What do you think? Should we peg it on the years I mentioned? Just going by what FDP, TFF, and other fender amp forums and webpages define them to be. Considered vintage up to the silverfaces, sagad sa ultralinear models. After that rivera era na, red knobs, evil twin, etc, markedly different and define the start of fender amps modern era; with channel switching, PCB construction, etc. As far as I know!

@kernelsalonpas

Just cheap obscure speakers.
soundclick.com/siore
youtube.com/user/siore

Offline r_chino18

  • Patambay tambay na
  • Philmusicus Supremus
  • ******
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2012, 11:20:58 PM »
Di ko na nakilala ah. Ganda na bro!

Fender club na to. Haha! Salamat sir. May Bandmaster cab in the works pa ako...abangan..pero di ko pa sure kung lalagyan ko rin nung panel sa gitna gaya nung original.. hehe.. :)

paki-post na nga yung mga vintage fender amps ko na pintago ko sayo.

 :lol:


Offline upfront

  • Senior Member
  • ***
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2012, 12:08:00 AM »
My main amp is a 1965 Fender Bandmaster. All Original.



My Second Family. (From Left to Right)
'67 Dual Showman Amp (2x15 JBL D130)
'66 Bassman Amp Head
'73 Bassman 50 (2x15 JBL D140)
'65 Bandmaster (2x12 Utah)
'76 Super Twin (2x12 Utah)
'68 Vibrolux Reverb Dripedge (2x10 Oxford)
'76 Vibro Champ


New Members of the Family.
'67 Deluxe Reverb Dripedge (1x12 Oxford)


'61 Showman Amp Blonde


'76 Pro Reverb (2x12 Oxford)


My Latest Project Cab - A 2x15 Fender Cab cut into half and converted it into a 1x12 Tone ring cab (Still waiting for the Grill Cloth)








Offline r_chino18

  • Patambay tambay na
  • Philmusicus Supremus
  • ******
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2012, 12:11:39 AM »
 :lol:Ang daming bago!   :cute:

Ano kayang purpose nung middle panel sa pagitan nung dalawang speaker sa Bandmaster cab? Ano kayang noticeable difference pag wala yun?
« Last Edit: March 09, 2012, 12:34:37 AM by r_chino18 »

Offline samuelfianza

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2012, 01:18:56 AM »
Not sure if this is a real fender but it's older than me.

Offline greasykid

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2012, 07:54:46 AM »
Not sure if this is a real fender but it's older than me.

That's a '70s solid state.  I think inigo was selling a cabinet from the same line a few years back, which got my Googling.  I saw amps like that in old Fender catalog scans.

Offline Al_Librero

  • Philmusicus Addictus
  • *****
Re: Vintage fender amps appreciation
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2012, 08:14:37 AM »
Lito Bote posted 3 Silverface Fenders for sale here around 5 years ago.  Others were a Dual Showman rehoused in 2x12 combo and a Super Reverb.  My brother and I trooped to his house ASAP.  Wanted to take home the Super Reverb, too but I think it had an issue.
He was selling those pretty cheap. I wish I had the money to buy one of those back then.
Trashcan of Thoughts - http://www.allibrero.com