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The Musician Forums => Pinoydrums => Topic started by: khris_drummer on December 18, 2006, 05:18:10 PM
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i want po to learn how to read notes po iv been playing for 3 years pero d po ako maronung may website po ba na may lessons? tnx po sirs :-D
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http://216.103.111.115/perl/drums/index.cgi
try mo to sir baka makatulong
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@ khris_drummer subukan mo rin to
http://www.drumsdatabase.com/reading.htm
@ rasta_gopz, i used to have the web thumper link and i cant find it anymore, thanks for posting it.
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@ khris_drummer subukan mo rin to
http://www.drumsdatabase.com/reading.htm
@ rasta_gopz, i used to have the web thumper link and i cant find it anymore, thanks for posting it.
no problem bro!!!! para sakin kasi malaki din natulong nito kahit minsan boring yung lesson pero it helps u to improve ur skills haggang ngayon binabalikan ko parin yung basic lesson d2
mga sir post pa kau ng ibang site mahabahaba ang bakasyon ngayong pasko at new year atleast my oras para mag pondo hehehehe :-D
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http://216.103.111.115/perl/drums/index.cgi
try mo to sir baka makatulong
salamat sa link!
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mga sir important ba na marunog bumasa ng note ang isang drummer??
ako kasi marunong lang pero mabagal at sa tingin ko parang hirap gamitin sa gig, lalo na kung msarap ang tugtugan parang nkakabitin hehehe :-D
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mga sir important ba na marunog bumasa ng note ang isang drummer??
ako kasi marunong lang pero mabagal at sa tingin ko parang hirap gamitin sa gig, lalo na kung msarap ang tugtugan parang nkakabitin hehehe :-D
kung gusto mo mag session sa mga tv shows.. oo.. kelangan yan... maganda din kasi marunong bumasa.. para on the spot.. pwedeng pwede ka pumalo.
marami ka kasi pwede pag gamitan nung pag read ng notes eh... kaya panalo talga pag marunong ka...
ako hindi marunong.. someday.. mag aaral ako. heheh
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tnx po sirs!!!! up :-Dhttp://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p127/khris_drummer/STA60066.jpg
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tama si bam. minsan kasi kahit araw-araw ka mag-practice may times pa rin na parang walang lumalabas na bago mula sa mga palo mo. kaya ok din yung note-reading para doon. kumbaga it breaks the "barrier" para mas ma-improve yung dexterity mo sa instrument mo.
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yup, honestly, di rin ako marunong bumasa ng notes, pero i get the idea from leafdrums tsaka guitar pro. di ko talaga alam formation ng mga notes pero i have an idea how it goes, paging jpmb marunong ata sya eh.
note reading really breaks the barrier and makes you understand how the drums work more. kung bakit ganito ang fill in nya, bakit singkupado sya and stuff like that....
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useful din talaga pag marunong ka magbasa ng notes... like me simula natuto akong mag notes mas nakapag explore ako ng husto..
pero mas madalas uwido ako.. dun kasi ako nagsimula..
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For me, reading notes is not really a requirement for drummers. But I firmly believe that it can give a drummer the extra edge/advantage.
I can read notes. But I'm not a fast reader. Maybe if only I could read notes faster and effectively, I can get some of those high-profile session gigs hehe!
That's why I admire those first-call session drummers such as Mike Alba, Roy Mercado, Vinci Rodriguez & the Regalado drummers. I wish I have their sight-reading skills. Kahit salpakan sila ng musical director ng bagong piyesa a few minutes before the gig, they'll still be able to nail it! They are that good.
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huy dio di ako firstcall! hehehehe di ako worthy to be with thoses names!!! bagal ko pa magbasa din, in fact i really need to work on my reading skills.dream ko talaga maging session drummer pero dami ko pa kakainin.thanks din bro for your comment about me :D thanks talaga bro!
back to the tpoic, for me it is very important that a drummer can read notes kahit basic level lang. dami mo mapupulot pag nagbabasa ka.imagine basahin mo lang books ni garibaldi, erskine gadd, etc para ka nang naglesson sa mga master :D
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Agree!!! Isa pa, maraming drum lessons na transcribed as notes (e.g. Modern Drummer lessons).
Nung una tinuruan ako magbasa at magsulat ng drum tabs sa extension classes koi, kaya may idea ako sa note reading, KASO mabagal pa ako sa mga intricacies ng pagbabasa at pagsusulat.
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I'd agree with Drumster and the others. Note reading is not so important. But it gives an extra edge. Joe Morello and Stevie Wonder are both visually impaired but they're great drummers. :)
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yes importante yun...nag lesson ako sa casa musica at puro notes ang pinapabasa sakin ng teacher ko...after 12 sessions napansin ko na lang na nagagawa ko na yung hindi ko nagagawa dati :-) kasi sa notes...mapipilitan ka talaga na tugtugin yung mga hindi mo kayang tugtugin eh :-)
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tnx mga sir.. meron lang nagbigay sakin ng lesson sa drums, hindi alam basahin lahat pero ung ibang basic na nbabasa ko medyo mabagal nga lang. gaya ng sinabi ni sir pmack minsan nkakakuha ako ng kakaibang technique sa pagbabasa ko khit iniisa isa ko muna bago ko gawin.. hirap hatiin ang utak sa pagbabasa at pagddrums hehehe
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tnx mga sir.. meron lang nagbigay sakin ng lesson sa drums, hindi alam basahin lahat pero ung ibang basic na nbabasa ko medyo mabagal nga lang. gaya ng sinabi ni sir pmack minsan nkakakuha ako ng kakaibang technique sa pagbabasa ko khit iniisa isa ko muna bago ko gawin.. hirap hatiin ang utak sa pagbabasa at pagddrums hehehe
Bro, ibang usapan na yang "sight reading" sa marunong lang bumasa ng notation. Para sa akin, pag marunong ka ng sight reading pwede ka na sambahin ng ibang drummer! hehehe! Imagine, on the spot kaya mong tugtugin yung nakasulat sa harap mo! Hahatiin mo talaga utak mo nun! :-D
Ako talaga, tenga lang ang ginagamit ko. Madami akong instructional CDs with books na may notations pero sa CD lang ako nagrerely. Parang mas nalilito ako at hindi bumabaon sa katawan ko yung tugtog pag tinitingnan ko yung symbols.Kaya ang tendency, hindi kopyang kopya yung palo ko kumpara sa CD, but at least "original" ko na yun!
:-D
Pero advantage talaga yung nakaka intindi ka ng notations kahit di ka mag sight reading, depende yan sa goal mo as drummer! :-)
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sa tingin ko naman may advantage kung marunong ka mag note reading. one reason why i think this is so is because the drummers who read notes in my mind, tend to be a lot more versatile than the drummers who don't read or don't read yet.
me, i don't read. it's hard because i still have school. someday i'll study note reading. i wanna study coz i wanna improve my tempo, versatility, and voice of my playing. :lol:
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if you wanna hit it big kailangan yan.
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natigil nako magpractice para bumilis sa pagbasa ng notes, naiwan ko kasi sa barkada ko yung manual ko na nagpapaguide din, napakaraming advantage pag nakakabasa at nakakasulat ka ng drum notes, lalo na kung mabilis, kasi mabilis ka sumipra ng pyesa kahit gano pa kakumplikado. kinig sulat, kinig sulat tapos basa, hanggang mamemorised na heheheh, kahit makalimutan mo pa after 2 months basahin lang yung pyesa ok na, di na kailangan halos ng MP3 o ano pa., i pray makapagpractice uli ako how to read notes faster....pray 4 each other to be as good like the others , GDBLZ & MERRY XMAS
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para sakin hindi naman talaga importante as long na marunong ka pumalo. pero reading notes kasi advantage na yun sa isang drummer. lalo na kung mabilis ka mag basa. pag may gig na biglaan, pwede na diretso tugtog wala ng practice practice. hindi pa ako masyado marunong mag basa ng note. marunong ako koti pa lang . mga basic pa tapos medyo mabagal pa ako mag basa.
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One reason why I've always wanted to (and still aspire to) read drum charts is to be able to play all those licks, patterns, and transcriptions in Modern Drummer and drum books. Learning to play by ear is one thing but it would be cool to able to play (and write out) charts.
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pag dating sa nota d ako ganun kabilis mag basa ginagamit ko lang to pag sobrang hirap ng pwesa at d ko masundan sa cd or tape mas detalyado kasi pag naka notes n kailangan alam mo bilang ng bawat nota para kahit alang tape kuha mo yung tyming
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i guess its good to know how to read your drum notes. i tried playing the drums 15 yrs ago and i was just listening and trying to play based on what i hear. may mga fills or patterns na d ko magawa then so i gave up drums and took up another hobby (i.e. drinking, gimik etc) pinapanood ko na lang yung mga magagaling na drummer dyan sa atin habang umiinom.
after 14 yrs, last year, i enrolled in a class and surprisingly, i can play them na when i'm reading the notes. parang mas dumali gawin yung pattern or yung mga fills pag nababasa mo na. mas madali maintindihan kung san papasok yung fill and parang mas dumali gumawa ng sarili mong version ng mga fills since makikita mo kung pasok ka sa bilang o hindi.
pero syempre, iba rin yung magaling ang tenga mo. d rin naman cool kung masyado kang dependent sa drum tabs. so kelangan mo rin i-balance.
my 2 cents..
Merry Christmas guys!!!
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Dude, I think it is really important if a drummer could read and execute the notes. I envy those guys who could do it effectively. I'm glad that most of the members here share the same sentiments. :mrgreen:
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note reading is important... pero it's not everything... sa pagkaka-alam ko hindi lahat maisusulat sa notes .... maaring nakasulat sya in note form, mabababasa mo, pero hindi mo alam ang feel and ultimately hindi din mo din matutugtog..
recently i've been looking at new orleans and 2nd line drumming... I've seen notes written for the parts pero if you play it how it's written, hindi sya magiging katunog nung tunay na tunog (an example would be the notes written in Tommy igoe's book for new orleans groove -- if you played that straight (even with the accents as written in the notes), it would not sound close to how a new orleans groove is played..
I think ganon din naman sa words eh.. kung nakasulat, mababasa mo ung mga words, pero kung hindi mo masabi ng maayos or hindi tama ung accents mo or ung syllables, may possibility na iba ang maging meaning or hindi mo rin maintindihan...
the reverse is also true... correct me if i'm wrong... pero sa pagkaka-alam ko, may mga chinese dialect / language na kailangan pang isulat ung characters dun sa music video habang kinakanta (parang sub titles) kasi kapag hindi na-ayos ung accent (which is nawawala kapag nilalagyan na ng melodies ang lyrics), iba ang nagiging meaning nung words or may possibility na hindi maintindihan nung nakikinig...
so, depende siguro sa goal... kung gusto mo lang basta basta makatugtog, ok siguro kahit na hindi ka marunong magbasa (in the same way na may mga taong makakapagsalita at makikipagusap sayo pero maaring hindi sya marunong magbasa - pero magkakaintidihan kayo)... pero kung gusto mo pa siguro na mas marami kang ma-explore, mas dumami ang resources mo and other things, or gusto mong talagang maging professional musician, maganda siguro na matuto magbasa ng notes... pero as always, parating may exception ;-)
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ako when I want to do a pattern or groove that I picture in my head and cannot put it into action because of poor coordination I write it down and slowly practice it.
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sarap sana nun noh, uupo ka lang tapos babasa ka na lang,yun na
it would also be easier mag-transcribe ng song...and even create your own groove because of note reading.
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we all want that extra edge in our playing right?! now start reading! :lol:
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Hey guys and ladies
Ang sa akin tama lahat ng sinasabi nyo malaking tulong ang makabasa ng notes for further studies. Pero hindi naman sukutan ito ng husay ng isang drummer.
But for the purpose of studying books on your own it helps lalo na kung ikaw ay isang visual person like me.
Isa sa nakakatulong sa akin ay to look at the notation as a puzzle ex. the 8th notes would be the frame of the puzzle. I'll mark the O for the bass and x for the snare:
1n 2n 3n 4n
_ _ _ _
Hi hat l l l l l l l l
snare x x x
bass o oo
As you can see lining up the bass on beat 1 and 3 n. While the snare comes in on beat 2 and 4 n. It also helps if your counting loud at first.
Just remember this counting:
Quarter note: 1 2 3 4 Takes one full beat w/c includes yung up beat.
8th notes : 1 n 2 n 3 n 4 n (number ex. 1 is the down beat/ n's are the up beat)
16th notes: 1end2end3end4end (just doublin the down and up beat)
One 16th + two 8th notes: 1-nd 2-nd 3-nd 4-nd
two 8th + one 16th: 1en- 2en- 3en- 4en-
dotted 8th + one 16th: 1-- d 2--d 3--d 4--d
16th + 8th + 16th: 1e-d 2e-d 3e-d 4e-d
So the key to note reading are:
1. Know how to count the notes.
2. Line-up each drum parts to the beats. Does it go on the down beat or up beat.
3. Study the proper motion...this is true w/ latin grooves when you move hands to the toms.
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Hudson music po try mo. hehehe might help!!! www.hudsonmusic.com
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One 16th + two 8th notes: 1-nd 2-nd 3-nd 4-nd
two 8th + one 16th: 1en- 2en- 3en- 4en-
Sir,
typo po ba yung 2 kasi hindi po ba dapat
One 8th + two 16th yung 1-na 2-na 3-na 4-na tapos
Two 16th + one 8th yung 1en- 2en- 3en- 4en-
otherwise lalabas na kulang tayo ng isang 16th note to make up for 1 quarter for every beat?
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its best if you know how to read... and not just read... sight read...
my teacher in drums said that its a good thing to know how to use your ears when playing any type on instrument but most of the time especially when time passes...
we tend to forget what we heard...
when you know how to read and write music... your drum solos can be played with just reading
its just like making a poem... you will forget that thru time... but when you have written down and you know how to read it... that piece becomes timeless...
:-D
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Sir,
typo po ba yung 2 kasi hindi po ba dapat
One 8th + two 16th yung 1-na 2-na 3-na 4-na tapos
Two 16th + one 8th yung 1en- 2en- 3en- 4en-
otherwise lalabas na kulang tayo ng isang 16th note to make up for 1 quarter for every beat?
Thanks Chopstix...it is a typo. Salamat for changing it
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note reading will help you understand how rhythym works and how music is arranged hence
the more you know about it the more you can do stuff to it.
Vinnie Coliuata (if ever tama spelling ko), Dave weckl, Virgil DOnati and ll these techy drummers, kaya nila napapalalim palo
dahil alam nila bituka nito hehe.
Tsaka it will help you cover all the basics really well.
Buddy Rich doesn't read music or even drum notes but he was
totally gifted. Kahit tayo may gift din kaso makapal pagkabalot nung gift natin kailang bagbagin lahat
nung balot bago mo makuha and yet we'll get there.
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note reading is essential.. pati mga bagsakan sa score..
practice.. to avoid embarassment... hehe.. kasi aku ganun..
di ako sanay sa mga charts na bagsakan sa bigband playing..
ayun.. kaya practice.. imagine ng bagsakan..
ayun.. note reading also helps in personal studies..
like books etc.. don't take it for granted..
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Big essential din ang back ground sa note reading in arranging songs sa computer. like fruityloops and other music composing softwares. pag illiterate ka sa notes well lahat ng softwares na pang gawa ng kanta e useless kung di marunong magbasa ng nota. hehehe just wana share
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Mga dude.. help me.. i really dont know some .. for example 8note.. gnun d ko talaga alam.. baka nga mali pinagsasabi ko hehe :-D
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8 note...hmmm.ang alam ko po tempo sya... :-D
punta ka dito www.freedrumlessons.com
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Hindi po siya tempo
Example: You play 8th notes in 100 bpm. 100 bpm is the tempo
You play 8 BEATS in a Measure. Playing in quarter note means you play 4 BEATS per measure. 16th notes = 16 beats/measure
Quarter notes:
1 2 3 4
8th notes:
1 + 2 + 3 + 4 +
16th notes:
1 e + a 2 e + a 3 e + a 4 e + a
hehe tama po ba?
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yup agree dun sa unang part.
you play 8th notes in 100bpm, 100 bpm is the tempo.
yung beats, it depends on the time signature.. for example 4/4
ibig sabihin 4 beats in a measure, 1 quarter note for every beat. eto yung nagbibilang ka ng 1 2 3 4... 1 2 3 4
familiarize yourself with notes din muna. umpisahan mo sa whole note
whole note = 2 half notes
half note = 2 quarter notes
quarter note = 2 x 8th notes
8th note = 2 x 16th notes
16th note = 2 32nd notes
sana natulungan ka nito :-)
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Ay nakalimutan ko time sig :-)
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eto sana makatulong to :-D
(http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a303/intakenos/image-1.gif)
matanong lang...paano kayo magbilang ng half at quarter notes?
ako binibilang ko as 8th notes, nilalakasan ko na lang yung number na may beat..
kayo?
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1 2 3 4 pa rin kahit whole/half/quarter basta paluin mo yung drums kung san may nota, pwede kasing half rest ka muna tapos half note so ang bibilangin ko yung half rest 1 2 na walang pinapalo tapos palo sa drums pagdating ng 3 tapos tunganga sandali para sa 4.
pagnakakita na ko ng 8th note, dun papasok yung 1 n 2 n 3 n...
pag may 16th note na, 1ena2ena....
triplets naman 1 ta ta 2 ta ta 3 ta ta 4 ta ta
@intake, kung nilalakasan mo ang bilang na may beat, buong kanta malakas ang bilang mo. :-)
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sorry Chopstix mali pagkakasabi ko! :lol:
i mean, sa isip ko lang nilalakasan yung number..minsan kinakanta ko na lang :-D
hindi naman nadadamay yung lakas ng palo ko dun, hehe
quick question pala!
pag odd time ba:
lets say 6/8
6 = number of beats na tutugtugin ko
8 = paano ko siya bibilangin
tama ba?
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The 8 on 6/8 means that the counting is based on eighth notes.
If the denominator is 4, it means the counting will be based on quarter notes. If it's 2, it's half notes. And so forth...
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sorry Chopstix mali pagkakasabi ko! :lol:
i mean, sa isip ko lang nilalakasan yung number..minsan kinakanta ko na lang :-D
hindi naman nadadamay yung lakas ng palo ko dun, hehe
quick question pala!
pag odd time ba:
lets say 6/8
6 = number of beats na tutugtugin ko
8 = paano ko siya bibilangin
tama ba?
nyek, no apology needed pare. :-)
basta tandaan mo yung number sa taas is the number of beats in a measure so kung 6, bilangin mo ng 1 2 3 4 5 6 kung gusto mo, pero not necessarily may pinapalo ka.
o gusto mo bilangin ng 1 n 2 n 3 n ikaw bahala, kung san mo mas madali bilangin
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aytayt :-) thank you thank you! :-D
naggets ko na uli siya :lol:
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Pasali ha... My kid "kendan" who is I think the youngest member of Philmusic "pinoy drums" recently had his recital sa drums. The solo he had was not that long, and for those of us who can play drums but can't read notes would say na simple with a bit of accent lang as fills. But the thing is I tried to read his piece and I got a bit confused.
Nakakatawa pa he was teaching me how to read the notes. :-D
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well good eve mga sir...i just want to ask kung ano mas prefer niyo sa isang drummer...
marunong bumasa ng nota or tenga-tenga lang?
salamat po mga sir...
:-) :lol: :-D
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marunong mag basa nota
requirement yan professionally
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bago ka matuto mag nota matututunan mo na muna yung tenga tenga lang :)
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I asked Otep Concepcion kung ano pinakaimportante in being a session drummer, note-reading or versatility. He said note-reading.
Its like being so fluent in the English language but not knowing how to read.
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I asked Otep Concepcion kung ano pinakaimportante in being a session drummer, note-reading or versatility. He said note-reading.
Its like being so fluent in the English language but not knowing how to read.
Very well said! :lol:
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thank you po mga sir...
i will start studying notes...
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Lahat po ba ng drummers dito marunong ng note reading? Ako lang ata ang hindi marunong. Hehe! :-D
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sir you can try www.freedrumlessons.com
at notes reading ng drums is mas madali compare to keyboard. :-)
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Lahat po ba ng drummers dito marunong ng note reading? Ako lang ata ang hindi marunong. Hehe! :-D
ngayon ngayon lang din ako nagsisimulang matuto. casual reading lang, unti-unti ko pang kinukuha yung iba't ibang symbols (yung iba kasi di ko pa gamay, yung iba madali namang intindihin). sayang naman kasi kung bibili ka ng drum mags, di mo man lang che-checkout yung mga lessons.
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ngayon ngayon lang din ako nagsisimulang matuto. casual reading lang, unti-unti ko pang kinukuha yung iba't ibang symbols (yung iba kasi di ko pa gamay, yung iba madali namang intindihin). sayang naman kasi kung bibili ka ng drum mags, di mo man lang che-checkout yung mga lessons.
Ang hindi ko maintindihan talaga dyan yung mga tempo like 5/8, etc. etc. :lol: [grape] ako sa music. :oops: Creativity lang talaga ang ginagamit ko. Puro self-invention ang mga beats. Pinaghahalo-halo ko yun mga signature fills ng mga favorite kong drummers. 8-) Kaso I've realized na important din talaga ang note reading kasi yung mga naiimbento ko hindi ko naii-translate sa notes which is very crucial para hindi ko sya malimutan.
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if you can play the music properly,reading is not that important. it just makes you learn the music faster. dennis chambers,buddy rich they dont read music. teddy campbell of american idol doesn't read music at first,but he have great ears to play the music properly. and the musical director(riccky miner i think) didnt mind. si bagets hindi din ata nagbabasa,pero grabe mga areglo in jay sa souhtborder. at the end its the music thats important,not whether you can read or not. steve gadd said that in his video
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Ang hindi ko maintindihan talaga dyan yung mga tempo like 5/8, etc. etc. :lol: [grape] ako sa music. :oops: Creativity lang talaga ang ginagamit ko. Puro self-invention ang mga beats. Pinaghahalo-halo ko yun mga signature fills ng mga favorite kong drummers. 8-) Kaso I've realized na important din talaga ang note reading kasi yung mga naiimbento ko hindi ko naii-translate sa notes which is very crucial para hindi ko sya malimutan.
yes, ako rin hinahalo ko lang yung mga beats na nakikita ko, then I can make my own beatings.
sa notes mas madali kang gagawa then just follow the staff positions,
pero sir sabihin ko lang po,
wala pong musician na b.o.b.o. paano po tayo nakakatugtog kung ganun tayo. :-D :-D
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yes, ako rin hinahalo ko lang yung mga beats na nakikita ko, then I can make my own beatings.
sa notes mas madali kang gagawa then just follow the staff positions,
pero sir sabihin ko lang po,
wala pong musician na b.o.b.o. paano po tayo nakakatugtog kung ganun tayo. :-D :-D
Well... ako ay technical [grape] pero creative genius! :-D kasi left-handed ako. Mga left-handed persons daw are more developed ang right side of the brain which is the creative side... Medyo mahina ako sa logic eh kaya yung mga musical notes/tempos I consider them logical items/technical things na waterloo ko. Mahina din ako sa MATH!!! AMP!!! hehe :-o
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post naman kayo on how to read notes,basic to advance..how to start ba?gusto ko kasi matuto ng sight reading..
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Thanks to Guitar Pro 5/6, I have started note reading almost two years ago while tabbing.
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true, mgandang software yung guitar pro for note reading sa drums, i too learned from it. kasi realtime mo masasabayan yung tugtog, yung 5 ako, mabagal yung 6 hehe, and considering there are lots of guitar pro'ed song out there., in my case i started sa mga simple notes, like AC/DC's songs, ayun if you want to make learning note reading fast, this will be a big help.
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magandang book na aralin na note reading sa drum ay yung beyond backbeat by larry finn...halos lahat ng genre andun na... :-P
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if you can play the music properly,reading is not that important. it just makes you learn the music faster. dennis chambers,buddy rich they dont read music. teddy campbell of american idol doesn't read music at first,but he have great ears to play the music properly. and the musical director(riccky miner i think) didnt mind. si bagets hindi din ata nagbabasa,pero grabe mga areglo in jay sa souhtborder. at the end its the music thats important,not whether you can read or not. steve gadd said that in his video
Korek.... Musicality, Versatility and Intuition parin ang pinaka importante when playing, although mas ok kung nakakabasa ka ng nota para mas malawak yung range ng pwede mo tugtugin lalo na kung session ka. Ok din ang note reading pag may project kayo na software based eh kaya mong lapatan ng drums yung tugtugan nyo... Another important thing in knowing how to read is when teaching your kid how to drum... I don't know about you guys but I love teaching my kids how to drum and the basics are always from reading notes...
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mga braders na marunong mag layout ng notes tulong naman..
sino ba gumagamit dito ng guitarpro tabs?
meron kasi kami acoustic performance sa office namin this coming May..
at wala kaming drummer, pa help naman mag program ni drum beats sa guitarpro
ang setup kasi namin is 1 vocalist, 2 guitarist, and Bass..
then gagamit kami ng guitarpro to simulate the drums.. then kakabit sa mixer/speakers..
lahat ng songs namin meron ng drumbeats courtesy of ultimateguitartabs..
peru ung isa namin kanta wala pa.. forevermore ng side A.. wala kong mahanap na forevermore na merong drums eh..
i tried doing it myself mejo tricky pala gawin.. :cry:
mahirap tlaga siguro kung di ka naman na natural na drummer.. hahaha
anyway meron bang makakatulong sakin dito na iprogram ung mga notes sa guitarpro?? salamat ng marami! :)
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mga braders na marunong mag layout ng notes tulong naman..
sino ba gumagamit dito ng guitarpro tabs?
meron kasi kami acoustic performance sa office namin this coming May..
at wala kaming drummer, pa help naman mag program ni drum beats sa guitarpro
ang setup kasi namin is 1 vocalist, 2 guitarist, and Bass..
then gagamit kami ng guitarpro to simulate the drums.. then kakabit sa mixer/speakers..
lahat ng songs namin meron ng drumbeats courtesy of ultimateguitartabs..
peru ung isa namin kanta wala pa.. forevermore ng side A.. wala kong mahanap na forevermore na merong drums eh..
i tried doing it myself mejo tricky pala gawin.. :cry:
mahirap tlaga siguro kung di ka naman na natural na drummer.. hahaha
anyway meron bang makakatulong sakin dito na iprogram ung mga notes sa guitarpro?? salamat ng marami! :)
Ako pre marunong kaso kung ikaw mismo lalapat mejo mahihirapan ka kung di ka masyadong gamay sa nota... pero may tab naman yun kaso mahirap ilapat yung mga rest and dotted notes... lalo na ang mga triplets and sixplets **tama ba?** my advise is for you to get someone na marunong mag plot then or paturo ka ng basics ng drum notes then ikaw na sumipra then lapat mo na... one good thing about it kung ikaw lalapat is matututo ka na and sa mga next line up nyo ikaw na mismo maglalagay... hehe
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First time ko nag-aral ng drums was way back nung 1st year high school ako. Tinuruan ako ng pastor namin dati ng 2 Saturdays sa church namin dati tapos nun tugtog na. I learned everything sa widow lang. Noong una kong nakakita ng mga notes about drums (photocopy ng isang lesson from Modern Drummer) sabi ko sa sarili ko "Di ko kailangan ito, pwede ko naman siprahin nalang thru ear." As the years go by, binalikan ko uli yung mga photocopy sinubukan kong aralin, madali lang pala (compared to other instruments), hehe. I was amazed na yung mga dati kong di matugtog madali lang pala although I have to practice it slowly at first. From hand/kit exercises to drum fills and transcription inaral ko siya kahit mabagal, doon ko narealize kung gaano kaimportante ang note reading sa drums at sa iba pang instruments.
For me, we all first learn thru widow and develop from there. But learning note reading makes our vocabulary wider and maximize our own potential as a musician. Tsaka ewan ko lang kung ganito rin kayo, mas lalo nadevelop yung tenga/widow ko nung natuto ako ng note reading, mas mabilis kong nasisipra yung tugtog.
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note reading will help you understand how rhythym works and how music is arranged hence
the more you know about it the more you can do stuff to it.
Vinnie Coliuata (if ever tama spelling ko), Dave weckl, Virgil DOnati and ll these techy drummers, kaya nila napapalalim palo
dahil alam nila bituka nito hehe.
Tsaka it will help you cover all the basics really well.
Buddy Rich doesn't read music or even drum notes but he was
totally gifted. Kahit tayo may gift din kaso makapal pagkabalot nung gift natin kailang bagbagin lahat
nung balot bago mo makuha and yet we'll get there.
haha totally agree!
for the drum beginners here...
if you're really serious about drumming take drums lessons that will teach you the basic of
drum and music notations...di naman kailangan maging bihasang fast sight reader (unless gusto mo sumabay sa mga orchestra/marching band tlga and seasoned studio musicians) pero napakalaking tulong tlga sa drummer kapag alam mo yung pinaka theory nya na basically it's all about subdivisions. take piano or guitar lessons as well para mas maging all rounded musician kana tlga. remember sight reading won't make you a better drummer over all but it will help you know where the notes are supposed to be played and the more you play the better you become.
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hi guys, this is gonna be my first post in this section.
im not really a drummer pero im just very curious,
meron pa ba kayang drummer ngayun na nagbabasa ng drum notation habang tumutugtog??
if so, sa anung mga genre?
and kailangan ba ng isang professional drummer na matuto magread ng notes?
hehe thanks po sa makakasagot :D
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yup! madami
merong madaming ways sa pagbabasa ng drum notations at session tugtog sa labas
transcribing is one yung ginagawa ko sa student ko for study materials in the class,so they learn to read notes while playing,
chart reading is one na nakalagay lang yung groove like play samba tapos ilang bara lang nakalagay dun at groove then may mga hits
na bagsakan.
meron naman iba ikaw gagawa ng chart mo one the spot sa rehearsal
meron naman bibigyan ka ng fakebook mostly jazz standards to nangyayari
at meron naman bibigyan ka ng piano part or guitar parts at sasabihin lang sayo feel ng song,
hehe. ganun siya.
as for professional drummer e meron dyan di note readers pero they know thier way to the kit using the ears and lots of experience
pero yung totong session na sa tugtog mismo lalatag yung notes sa isang tugtog sa isang show e ibang field din pero professional way din siya at yun ang nakakatakot.
lahat ng genre pwede from metal to reggae to jazz to rock to classical to polka to novelty.
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Note reading might not be a requirement pero this will be a very useful skill for a drummer. Madaming skills ang pwedeng ma-improve kung marunong ka magbasa at posible pati ang bulsa mo :wink: . It will make you a more versatile and a better drummer than the previous you.
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hi guys, this is gonna be my first post in this section.
im not really a drummer pero im just very curious,
meron pa ba kayang drummer ngayun na nagbabasa ng drum notation habang tumutugtog??
Si Sir Mike Alba.
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natuto ako ng note reading at kung paano magsulat ng drum notes during music class nung colllesge. unlike music sheets for other instruments wala po syang do-re-mi... ang need lang matutunan ay time signature. yung lines ay merong nakaassign na part ng drum like top is HH, next is tom at meron din para sa bass, crash, etc. kung ano yung notes na nakalagay sa line na nakassign sa isang part yun ang time na need po paluin yun. basta ganun lang ang concept nun.
example sa 4/4 pwede meron apat na magkakasunod na quarter notes or walong 8th notes sa line para HH. pwede rin rest makikita mo.
di ko na gaano maalala exactly kasi halos di ko magamit dahil na rin sa limitation ng availability ng free drum music sheet. kung meron man hindi ko hilig na genre.
maganda din talaga marunong magbasa ng drum notes kasi kapag may music sheet ka sigurado ka sa mga timing, accuracy at bilang mga palo mo.