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« on: August 05, 2015, 07:49:42 PM »
Not sure where to post this. Dito na lang since I play guitars mostly  :) came across this blog.

OPM is Not Dead

Who said OPM is dead? It's not. There are hundreds of bands, acts and solo performers who continue to make music of all genres, and are very passionate in doing so. Do they make money out of it? No, they lose money. So why bother? Unconditional love. I myself am a musician who's made close to a hundred songs. I believe in my work and I love doing it. It's a way to release my feelings, emotions and my way of sharing stories, fact or fiction, and coloring it with different notes and melodies. It satisfies me and I will keep on doing it. I am not alone in this, I know at least a hundred others who do this for the same reasons as I do. Why haven't you've heard of us? It's simple. Distribution. The recording labels are gone. They are not willing to bet on new artists, instead they rely on already popular names, recycle old and tired material, heck they even ride on the popularity of individuals who can't hit 2 correct notes in succession. It's a business strategy. Along the way, they forgot what their vision is and deviated from it. Why? Because of the consumers. While music is a need for musicians, it's a want for many. How can they want something that they haven't seen or heard of. There's no trigger to create demand, so businesses don't provide supply. But recording labels aren't just a business, they also have a social responsibility to be the triggers of creating demand but have shied away from doing it. Where's the entrepreneurial spirit? What happened to taking risks? What happened to bridging artists and general consumers? OPM lives but distribution is dead.



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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2015, 08:17:45 PM »
OPM is not dead, it just transformed into something else...
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2015, 08:52:36 PM »
Di ba OPM is simply the popular/mainstream Filipino music? In that case, hangga't may local artist/musicians na sikat ay may buhay pa rin ang OPM.


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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2015, 11:53:13 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2015, 04:05:04 PM »
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2015, 04:24:23 PM »
Tama, distribution is dead, but the music is pretty much alive.

I can't even keep track of the new bands I haven't listened to yet. Tsaka graduate na yung underground scene sa puro rock at metal lang. Lots of good indie pop, post rock, electronica, fusion, jazz, and everything in between.

Pero yung distribution wala. Mag Spotify ka na lang. Bili ka sa iTunes at CDBaby. Sumipot ka ng gigs. Bili ka sa sa mga restaurant/cafe/shops/bookstore na nagdadala ng mga local stuff dahil friends yung may-ari ng shop at yung artist. Yung Kjwan 4 vol. 2 nga major outlet nga, pero kailangan ko hingin sa kahera dahil walang shelf space.
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2015, 04:34:34 PM »
Tama, distribution is dead, but the music is pretty much alive.

I can't even keep track of the new bands I haven't listened to yet. Tsaka graduate na yung underground scene sa puro rock at metal lang. Lots of good indie pop, post rock, electronica, fusion, jazz, and everything in between.

Pero yung distribution wala. Mag Spotify ka na lang. Bili ka sa iTunes at CDBaby. Sumipot ka ng gigs. Bili ka sa sa mga restaurant/cafe/shops/bookstore na nagdadala ng mga local stuff dahil friends yung may-ari ng shop at yung artist. Yung Kjwan 4 vol. 2 nga major outlet nga, pero kailangan ko hingin sa kahera dahil walang shelf space.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2015, 04:41:22 PM »
OPM is POP.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2015, 04:49:23 PM »
OPM is POP.

if OPM is pop the way we used to know it, then yeah it's pretty much dead. And it should stay dead until they can churn out really good pop again.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2015, 04:51:15 PM »
Hindi ito totoo.. masyado lang kasing mahal ang gastos sa recording, host na promotion industry, and other expenses.. na iilan lang ang may kaya at nakakalusot depende din siyempre sa potential ng isang artist o banda..

say artist like pempemco.. :-D nag struggle din naman sa simula nakilala pa ng husto sa labas pa ng bansa

pero sana bawasan na yun revival sa opm
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2015, 04:55:38 PM »
Hindi ito totoo.. masyado lang kasing mahal ang gastos sa recording, host na promotion industry, and other expenses.. na iilan lang ang may kaya at nakakalusot depende din siyempre sa potential ng isang artist o banda..

say artist like pempemco.. :-D nag struggle din naman sa simula nakilala pa ng husto sa labas pa ng bansa

pero sana bawasan na yun revival sa opm

sana mamatay na ang revival. (hahaha see what i did there it's a pun) kung may cover man please lang yung obscure na maganda yung pag narinig mo sa radyo walang makakaalam kahit isang tao kung san galing yun.
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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2015, 05:01:08 PM »
sana mamatay na ang revival. (hahaha see what i did there it's a pun) kung may cover man please lang yung obscure na maganda yung pag narinig mo sa radyo walang makakaalam kahit isang tao kung san galing yun.

haha..yes kill all revivalist artists & musicians.. dog damnnit, wala nang talent e  :lol:
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« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2015, 05:19:09 PM »
haha..yes kill all revivalist artists & musicians.. dog damnnit, wala nang talent e  :lol:

sobrang bulok din kasi ng mga big label producers eh. walang composition skills talaga. wala tayong quincy jones/jimmy iovine. all they could do for their run-of-the-mill talents (aka yung mga artista/celebrity na pinapakanta) is make covers using a MIDI palette that sounds worse than a Magic Sing karaoke, and make similar "original" tunes that use the same damn progressions and melodies. They might as well call every new OPM album a DJ remix of every Ogie Alcasid record, but with a different vocalist using a different MIDI sampler and mixed by a high school student.

@ralph, so what's the right term to refer to non-mainstream-pop filipino music? or yun na yun, Filipino music?
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« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2015, 07:13:10 PM »
I had my fair share with regards to having our music distributed by a certain company. It didn't come cheap, I must say. Our producer/bandmate had to shell out as much as P70k for the reproduction of the CDs, printing and distribution nationwide to all affiliated record bars. May additional P10k+ pa para sa "fee" ng Optical Media Board (OMB) bago i-reproduce yun CD.

If you're some bedroom artist who can create tasteful music from entry to mid-level gear, will you be able to afford such price for production and distribution? Aasa ka na naman ba sa social media channels like YouTube for some bigtime personality with "say" in the industry to notice you?

I agree with the content of the blog. OPM isn't dead, just trapped. It's stucked in each artist's bedroom.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2015, 09:31:57 AM »
I had my fair share with regards to having our music distributed by a certain company. It didn't come cheap, I must say. Our producer/bandmate had to shell out as much as P70k for the reproduction of the CDs, printing and distribution nationwide to all affiliated record bars. May additional P10k+ pa para sa "fee" ng Optical Media Board (OMB) bago i-reproduce yun CD.

If you're some bedroom artist who can create tasteful music from entry to mid-level gear, will you be able to afford such price for production and distribution? Aasa ka na naman ba sa social media channels like YouTube for some bigtime personality with "say" in the industry to notice you?

I agree with the content of the blog. OPM isn't dead, just trapped. It's stucked in each artist's bedroom.

buti nga may mga website na tulad ng Amplify.ph. If they like it they give you the spotlight. Di na dependent sa big names yung pangalan mo, plus di ka papakialaman para lang masulit nila yung distribution deal nila.

IMO minsan iniisip ko bilang isang Filipino artist, sa ibang bansa ko na lang ibenta yung music ko, kasi di naman naaappreciate dito pero sa iba benta eh (say, UDD, Typecast, Kate Torralba for the contemporary acts). I don't think it makes it less Filipino, you're just making it worth your while. electronica and indie can sell to the UK and France(hello Glasgow!), metal bands to the rest of Europe, Rock bands and hip hop to south east asia, mainstream flavor pop to the US. Leave the demand here to Lito Camo.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2015, 09:58:53 AM »
sobrang bulok din kasi ng mga big label producers eh. walang composition skills talaga. wala tayong quincy jones/jimmy iovine. all they could do for their run-of-the-mill talents (aka yung mga artista/celebrity na pinapakanta) is make covers using a MIDI palette that sounds worse than a Magic Sing karaoke, and make similar "original" tunes that use the same damn progressions and melodies. They might as well call every new OPM album a DJ remix of every Ogie Alcasid record, but with a different vocalist using a different MIDI sampler and mixed by a high school student.

@ralph, so what's the right term to refer to non-mainstream-pop filipino music? or yun na yun, Filipino music?

Indie Pop?

to further explain my statement above, lately, in order to make it big in the PH Music Industry, you have to be playing mind-hypnotizing, LSS-ing, catchy pop tunes.

take it from me, our label does not want to release our album (Alternative/Soul) unless we have 2-3 pop sounding songs in the album. hence the covers.


also, dun sa statement na "kill all revival artists and musicians", just to let you guys know, most of the time, its not the artists choice. it's the producers choice. a man has to make money. so kadalasan, walang magawa ang artist. sasalang ka nalang sa studio. at iisipan ng arrangement on the spot yung pinapacover/revive sa inyo.


lastly, hindi yung labels ang may problema if you ask me. it's the audience and the media. hanggang ngayon, pop pa rin ang gusto ng mga nakikinig ng radyo (karamihan). in a label's perspective, syempre, kailangang kumita ng pera. bakit ka pa ba magpapasign sa label or producer kung ayaw mo rin namang sumikat o kumita diba? gusto mong mag play ng music, eh di sana nag indie ka nalang pala. pero alam mo naman pag indie, kaunti lang din ang nakikinig.

so it's an artist's dilemma, magpapakaartist ba ako, at tutugtugin yung gusto ko lang na genre? or do I play what the producers want to gain a share in radio play time?
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2015, 10:25:02 AM »
Indie Pop?

to further explain my statement above, lately, in order to make it big in the PH Music Industry, you have to be playing mind-hypnotizing, LSS-ing, catchy pop tunes.

take it from me, our label does not want to release our album (Alternative/Soul) unless we have 2-3 pop sounding songs in the album. hence the covers.


also, dun sa statement na "kill all revival artists and musicians", just to let you guys know, most of the time, its not the artists choice. it's the producers choice. a man has to make money. so kadalasan, walang magawa ang artist. sasalang ka nalang sa studio. at iisipan ng arrangement on the spot yung pinapacover/revive sa inyo.


lastly, hindi yung labels ang may problema if you ask me. it's the audience and the media. hanggang ngayon, pop pa rin ang gusto ng mga nakikinig ng radyo (karamihan). in a label's perspective, syempre, kailangang kumita ng pera. bakit ka pa ba magpapasign sa label or producer kung ayaw mo rin namang sumikat o kumita diba? gusto mong mag play ng music, eh di sana nag indie ka nalang pala. pero alam mo naman pag indie, kaunti lang din ang nakikinig.

so it's an artist's dilemma, magpapakaartist ba ako, at tutugtugin yung gusto ko lang na genre? or do I play what the producers want to gain a share in radio play time?

agree ako sa lahat ng points dito.

let's face it, there's a reason why it's called the music industry. law of supply and demand lang din yan. Filipinos never got over the 80s. Never. And the artists who get to break the monotony? Their fame only lasts as long as they keep the label's demand for radio tunes.

pero I still stand by the kill all the revivals thing. yes it's the producer's choice because of the demand of the people. but law of supply and demand will dictate that if there is only the substitute that is available, then it will replace the main product. So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it. How do I know it won't flop? Hollywood has been feeding the international community with the same crap. Jessie J has been feeding the world with even worse crap. Mainstream will consume everything you says it wants.
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2015, 10:52:04 AM »
agree ako sa lahat ng points dito.

let's face it, there's a reason why it's called the music industry. law of supply and demand lang din yan. Filipinos never got over the 80s. Never. And the artists who get to break the monotony? Their fame only lasts as long as they keep the label's demand for radio tunes.

pero I still stand by the kill all the revivals thing. yes it's the producer's choice because of the demand of the people. but law of supply and demand will dictate that if there is only the substitute that is available, then it will replace the main product. So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it. How do I know it won't flop? Hollywood has been feeding the international community with the same crap. Jessie J has been feeding the world with even worse crap. Mainstream will consume everything you says it wants.


you realize that nung nawala yung OPM Pop, biglang nagsulputan yung mga KPOP songs at mga songs ng Meteor Garden. IMHO, it is the TV Culture and Radio Culture. sila parin ang nagdidictate kung ano ang ipplay. i dont know if you know this, pero in order to get play time sa mga "Jologs" radio stations like 90.7 Love radio, you will have to pay them. kung ikaw mismo, indie or purist sa genre mo, hindi ka nila ipplay dun. you have to pay a large fee, or sleep with one of their producers/Djs.

hindi ito baseless claims at base sa research ha? nakita ko to kasi andun ako. wala namang artist ang gustong makilala sa Cover Songs eh. the sad fact is, you ahve to do it to survive.


"So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it."

Get real. with the advent of digital media, kahit patayin mo yung airtime nila, ipplay parin yan sa mga CD Dash or USB ng mga jeep at tindahan.

if you think you can simplify the Music Industry with just basic economics, I am sorry but you're way off. It's not that simple. you kill the airtime, people will look for another source. parang hoarding lang yan. may risk ka rin na mapanis yung mga tinda mo.

Ako, i am one of those artists na nagooppose dun sa revival thing. when my band was starting, I tried my best to be against the current, and try to break through that barrier of OPM Pop and Revivals. However, wala talaga. sure, you can keep playing as an artist. but trust me when I say, you'll most probably be playing for free food, or worse, free lang talaga.


Unless, the media conditions the listeners to be open to listening to new stuff, walang mangbabago sa industry. Pop and Revivals will reign supreme. parang mga teleserye lang yan.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 11:06:10 AM »

you realize that nung nawala yung OPM Pop, biglang nagsulputan yung mga KPOP songs at mga songs ng Meteor Garden. IMHO, it is the TV Culture and Radio Culture. sila parin ang nagdidictate kung ano ang ipplay. i dont know if you know this, pero in order to get play time sa mga "Jologs" radio stations like 90.7 Love radio, you will have to pay them. kung ikaw mismo, indie or purist sa genre mo, hindi ka nila ipplay dun. you have to pay a large fee, or sleep with one of their producers/Djs.

hindi ito baseless claims at base sa research ha? nakita ko to kasi andun ako. wala namang artist ang gustong makilala sa Cover Songs eh. the sad fact is, you ahve to do it to survive.


"So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it."

Get real. with the advent of digital media, kahit patayin mo yung airtime nila, ipplay parin yan sa mga CD Dash or USB ng mga jeep at tindahan.

if you think you can simplify the Music Industry with just basic economics, I am sorry but you're way off. It's not that simple. you kill the airtime, people will look for another source. parang hoarding lang yan. may risk ka rin na mapanis yung mga tinda mo.

Ako, i am one of those artists na nagooppose dun sa revival thing. when my band was starting, I tried my best to be against the current, and try to break through that barrier of OPM Pop and Revivals. However, wala talaga. sure, you can keep playing as an artist. but trust me when I say, you'll most probably be playing for free food, or worse, free lang talaga.


Unless, the media conditions the listeners to be open to listening to new stuff, walang mangbabago sa industry. Pop and Revivals will reign supreme. parang mga teleserye lang yan.

onga no. tama ka, may ibang source nga pala sila, yung owner copies!  :eek: in addition to that kung hindi nga sila nagsasawa sa 80s eh, sigurado wala din silang sawa na paulit-ulitin na lang yung meron sila na hindi na inooffer ngayon. mapapanis nga ang imbentaryo mo nun.

on the KPop and the Meteor Garden thing, kahit ayoko nun, it was a welcome change for me. Strictly on the musical level at least iba sya sa run-of-the-mill mainstream pop na gawa dito. Same with KPop although that one is pretty stale and I have no idea why the movement is still alive (considering Koreans don't have that 80s music hangup we Filipinos have).

curious lang, magkano ang bagsakan ng pera pag magpapa-airtime ka sa jologs radio station?  tsaka gaano katagal ang exposure nun?

At, mas ok kaya kung ang TV ang point of attack para mag-iba ang landscape ng music industry? Because, kunwari sa US, the American Idol thing really pushed the revival/throwback movement there and it lasted for like a decade, simply because that's the only way you can run a constest. Originals will put in too may variables that can take away from the skill's judgment. Now, if they're not making covers, they're making records that sound old (starting with Lady Gaga, up to Swift's 1989 and more recent pop releases).

We have the capacity naman to make more singing contests, it's a dime a dozen here. Kahit nga 100K lang ang grand prize mo kahit sino kakagatin yan. then instead of focusing on revivals, they can start covering established indie records. Still, it's covers, but it's a much better start.
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« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2015, 11:39:38 AM »
onga no. tama ka, may ibang source nga pala sila, yung owner copies!  :eek: in addition to that kung hindi nga sila nagsasawa sa 80s eh, sigurado wala din silang sawa na paulit-ulitin na lang yung meron sila na hindi na inooffer ngayon. mapapanis nga ang imbentaryo mo nun.

on the KPop and the Meteor Garden thing, kahit ayoko nun, it was a welcome change for me. Strictly on the musical level at least iba sya sa run-of-the-mill mainstream pop na gawa dito. Same with KPop although that one is pretty stale and I have no idea why the movement is still alive (considering Koreans don't have that 80s music hangup we Filipinos have).

curious lang, magkano ang bagsakan ng pera pag magpapa-airtime ka sa jologs radio station?  tsaka gaano katagal ang exposure nun?

At, mas ok kaya kung ang TV ang point of attack para mag-iba ang landscape ng music industry? Because, kunwari sa US, the American Idol thing really pushed the revival/throwback movement there and it lasted for like a decade, simply because that's the only way you can run a constest. Originals will put in too may variables that can take away from the skill's judgment. Now, if they're not making covers, they're making records that sound old (starting with Lady Gaga, up to Swift's 1989 and more recent pop releases).

We have the capacity naman to make more singing contests, it's a dime a dozen here. Kahit nga 100K lang ang grand prize mo kahit sino kakagatin yan. then instead of focusing on revivals, they can start covering established indie records. Still, it's covers, but it's a much better start.


ugali kasi ng mga radyo, pag tinanggal mo yung source ng droga (i.e. tanggalin mo yung OPM Pop), magiimport yang mga yan. parang yung "What does the fox say". grabe ang naging radio time nung dito sa atin. parang WTF lang. so, in the eyes of producers and labels, [apple], retreat! go back to the old formula!


yung mga ganun, like TSWIFT and Bruno Mars sounding like old Mo-Town artists, may karapatan na sila kasi nga sikat na sila. pero nung bago pa sila, anong ginamit nila to break through? Pop pa rin. cue Love Story and Just The Way You Are.


yes, we can make singing contests covering indie stuff. pero ang mindset nga kasi ng mga TV people ay "If it aint broken, dont fix it". kumbaga, the pop revival thing is still milking and paying out sa pinas. why end a good thing? well, at least for them.


regarding the fees sa love radio, it was around 100 - 150k to be played once or twice in a month.
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« Reply #20 on: August 07, 2015, 11:52:29 AM »


^ 100-150 k??!!!! ang mahal grabeeee!!!
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« Reply #21 on: August 07, 2015, 12:42:44 PM »
to clarify, 100-150k to be played once or twice daily. per month. :D
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« Reply #22 on: August 07, 2015, 01:17:07 PM »
Brad Ralph, seryosong tanong. Yung mga Pinoy artists ba na nagco-cover ng foreign songs,like Regine murdering Aerosmith's hit song from Armageddon,ay nagbabayad ng royalties dun sa foreign artists?
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« Reply #23 on: August 07, 2015, 01:49:43 PM »

ugali kasi ng mga radyo, pag tinanggal mo yung source ng droga (i.e. tanggalin mo yung OPM Pop), magiimport yang mga yan. parang yung "What does the fox say". grabe ang naging radio time nung dito sa atin. parang WTF lang. so, in the eyes of producers and labels, [apple], retreat! go back to the old formula!


yung mga ganun, like TSWIFT and Bruno Mars sounding like old Mo-Town artists, may karapatan na sila kasi nga sikat na sila. pero nung bago pa sila, anong ginamit nila to break through? Pop pa rin. cue Love Story and Just The Way You Are.


yes, we can make singing contests covering indie stuff. pero ang mindset nga kasi ng mga TV people ay "If it aint broken, dont fix it". kumbaga, the pop revival thing is still milking and paying out sa pinas. why end a good thing? well, at least for them.


regarding the fees sa love radio, it was around 100 - 150k to be played once or twice in a month.

and sadly the pop revival thing is still the main cash cow for the philippine radio industry for the past 45 years.
likewise the karaoke industry is prolly getting a kick on this because they have less royalties to pay out (I assume you only have to pay the songwriters, not the arrangers, so that means one payout for 5 different versions of a song).

Dun sa rate, 150K for 2 plays per day for 30 days, assuming 3:30 ang length mo, that figures out to around 715 pesos per minute, 1430 pesos per minute kung once a day lang. Actually not a bad rate, if you were an advertiser. But you're an artist, a "single proprietor" if you will, and that's one huge ass sum of money.
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Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
« Reply #24 on: August 07, 2015, 02:58:15 PM »
Brad Ralph, seryosong tanong. Yung mga Pinoy artists ba na nagco-cover ng foreign songs,like Regine murdering Aerosmith's hit song from Armageddon,ay nagbabayad ng royalties dun sa foreign artists?

depende sa arrangement kasi paps. kung parehas kasi kayo ng label, i.e. kung si aerosmith ay warner, at si regine ay warner philippines, pwedeng gamitin ni regine ung song kasi usually, pag sign ng artist, nagsusurrender ka rin ng rights sa label mo. hence, yung i dont want to miss a thing, kay warner na siya, so pag gusto ni warner ipagamit kay regine yung song, pwedeng pwede.


pag hindi naman, yes, magbabayad kayo. depende na sa usapan nung song owner kung magkano. in our bands case, nung nagcover kami, nagbayad kami.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha