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the smartphone vs the dslr
« on: April 25, 2012, 04:21:32 PM »
would you give in if the time came when the smartphone could offer equal quality to the dslr?

im sure most of us wouldnt

well on the other hand i think this could be a good thing...those wannabes will finally lay off what wasnt meant for them...

the dslr could be exclusive again

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2012, 06:09:03 PM »
would you give in if the time came when the smartphone could offer equal quality to the dslr?

im sure most of us wouldnt

well on the other hand i think this could be a good thing...those wannabes will finally lay off what wasnt meant for them...

the dslr could be exclusive again


This.

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2012, 07:14:06 PM »
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2012, 10:25:29 PM »
kapag medium format cguro yung ilalagay nilang sensor.

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2012, 12:41:32 AM »
would you give in if the time came when the smartphone could offer equal quality to the dslr?

im sure most of us wouldnt

well on the other hand i think this could be a good thing...those wannabes will finally lay off what wasnt meant for them...

the dslr could be exclusive again


hmmmm. kung onte na lang ang buyer ng dslr/dslr accessories malaki chance na itataas nila ang prices nila para lang maka cope up sa expenses nila. and ano ang point ng pagiging exclusive ng dslr? para lang maclassified talaga kung sino yung marunong sa hindi?
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2012, 08:49:44 AM »
tama lang na ibalik ang dslr sa mga gusto at mga ginagawang full time ang pagkuha ng litrato. hindi yung ginagawang kwintas pang display tapos lahat ng shots naka auto focus.

di ako nag agree sa nag post dati na dahil kaya nilang bilhin at in time eh mahahasa din. sa obserbasyon ko, hanggang ngayon pinam-poporma pa rin ng mga taong yun yung dslr nila.
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2012, 10:06:09 AM »
tama lang na ibalik ang dslr sa mga gusto at mga ginagawang full time ang pagkuha ng litrato. hindi yung ginagawang kwintas pang display tapos lahat ng shots naka auto focus.

di ako nag agree sa nag post dati na dahil kaya nilang bilhin at in time eh mahahasa din. sa obserbasyon ko, hanggang ngayon pinam-poporma pa rin ng mga taong yun yung dslr nila.

Meron akong kaibigang ganito. Ginagamit yung camera nya para sa chicks. Yung tipong naka-sabit sa leeg nya yung camera tapos pag tinanong sya nung babae kung photographer sya sasabihin nya "Oo". Itong kaibigan ko na 'to isasama namin sa mga photowalk, pero ang ginagawa lang eh chini-chika yung yung babaeng kasama namin. Tapos at the of the day sasabihin nya, "Bad trip, konti lang ng shots ko.". At never ko pa syang nakitang nag-upload ng shots nya, hehehe.

Almost 2 years na yung camera nya, hindi pa din umaabot ng 5k yung actuations nya. Pero lagi sya sumasama sa mga shoot/photowalk.
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2012, 10:12:35 AM »
hmmmm. kung onte na lang ang buyer ng dslr/dslr accessories malaki chance na itataas nila ang prices nila para lang maka cope up sa expenses nila. and ano ang point ng pagiging exclusive ng dslr? para lang maclassified talaga kung sino yung marunong sa hindi?

yes i think that was my point...we'll know who the real enthusiast are...because surely the ones that arent will go with the times and go for the all in one device...the ones that really want to learn will invest and still go for a real camera... even though there are tons of apps that could edit your picture...iba parin yun matuto kang maglaro ng settings according to your surroundings...infact the only thing i do on photoshop is curves to brighten up dark photos 

they are coming out now with lens adapters for smartphones wtf!,analysts saying the game is changing! really? you think?

kahit na sabihin mo smartphone camera still a camera....i dont think so...i cant imagine even a pro using a tab or a phone to do his work

if youre a serious photographer dslr parin...thats what i meant for exclusive

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2012, 10:16:48 AM »
Meron akong kaibigang ganito. Ginagamit yung camera nya para sa chicks. Yung tipong naka-sabit sa leeg nya yung camera tapos pag tinanong sya nung babae kung photographer sya sasabihin nya "Oo". Itong kaibigan ko na 'to isasama namin sa mga photowalk, pero ang ginagawa lang eh chini-chika yung yung babaeng kasama namin. Tapos at the of the day sasabihin nya, "Bad trip, konti lang ng shots ko.". At never ko pa syang nakitang nag-upload ng shots nya, hehehe.

Almost 2 years na yung camera nya, hindi pa din umaabot ng 5k yung actuations nya. Pero lagi sya sumasama sa mga shoot/photowalk.

ayus yan ahh hehehe mas maganda siguro kung nakakapag explain ka pa ng konti sa chix! brainy pa labas mo nun hehehe

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2012, 10:20:36 AM »
yes i think that was my point...we'll know who the real enthusiast are...because surely the ones that arent will go with the times and go for the all in one device...the ones that really want to learn will invest and still go for a real camera... even though there are tons of apps that could edit your picture...iba parin yun matuto kang maglaro ng settings according to your surroundings...infact the only thing i do on photoshop is curves to brighten up dark photos 

they are coming out now with lens adapters for smartphones wtf!,analysts saying the game is changing! really? you think?

kahit na sabihin mo smartphone camera still a camera....i dont think so...i cant imagine even a pro using a tab or a phone to do his work

if youre a serious photographer dslr parin...thats what i meant for exclusive

I did. ANG SAGWA, hahaha!

A smartphone w/camera is a phone, a gaming device, a web browser, a text messaging device, a camera, etc.

A DSLR is a camera specifically used for photography (and nowadays, videography as well).

So, if you're a photographer which will you choose?

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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 10:22:40 AM »
ayus yan ahh hehehe mas maganda siguro kung nakakapag explain ka pa ng konti sa chix! brainy pa labas mo nun hehehe

Hindi nga eh porma lang talaga. Hanggang ngayon hindi pa din nya alam ang functions ng shutter speed, ISO & aperture. Pero madami na syang kilalang chikas, hahaha.

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2012, 10:25:03 AM »
sa mga kuha nya malalaman mo kung pumoporma lang o seryoso talaga... kung wala talagang improvement...  :eek:




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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2012, 10:29:49 AM »
Is it about exclusivity now? This is akin to learning guitar players that own custom guitars and pro stuff.

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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2012, 10:42:24 AM »
may thread sa AGT about sa mga WANNABE's  :-D

http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=264426.0

ke pam poporma lang or seryoso talaga, hayaan na naten, kanya kanyang trip lang in the end.

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2012, 10:45:07 AM »
Is it about exclusivity now? This is akin to learning guitar players that own custom guitars and pro stuff.

iba naman ang gitara at amp they are all the same 6 strings on a fretboard if you wanted lets say an ibanez jem to learn guitar go ahead

what i meant here was kung gusto mo matuto ng photography pero smartphone parin gagamitin mo dahil ayaw mo mahirapan magbitbit.... hindi tama, and to phase out the camera because of the smartphone hindi rin tama

 

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2012, 10:54:24 AM »
yes i think that was my point...we'll know who the real enthusiast are...because surely the ones that arent will go with the times and go for the all in one device...the ones that really want to learn will invest and still go for a real camera... even though there are tons of apps that could edit your picture...iba parin yun matuto kang maglaro ng settings according to your surroundings...infact the only thing i do on photoshop is curves to brighten up dark photos 

they are coming out now with lens adapters for smartphones wtf!,analysts saying the game is changing! really? you think?

kahit na sabihin mo smartphone camera still a camera....i dont think so...i cant imagine even a pro using a tab or a phone to do his work

if youre a serious photographer dslr parin...thats what i meant for exclusive

For me this is the closest explanation..

Ako I started with film SLR way back, a Canon EOS 1000f(n) camera with kit and telephoto lens, dun ako natuto ng basics like how to control shutter speed and aperture depending on the available natural light source, dun din ako natutong wag mag "depend" sa built in flash ng camera (unless inuman lang ang kukunan mo), dun din ako natutong mag manual focus ng lens, paglaruan ang depth of field at gumamit ng expired na film to simulate vintage tones.

After a while nag lie low ako sa photography then came the digital cameras, next camera ko is a DSLR na, the Nikon D40 with 18-55mm kitlens, bumili ako ng 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 zoom lens at dito ako nagstart maging seryoso sa photography as a hobby, napakadali na kasi, nakikita ko na agad ang result ng kuha ko, wala ng tantyahan, di na nakakahiya ipakita mga shots mo kasi pwede mo ulitin pag panget, mas madali na ang long exposures at bulb shots for light photography, mas madali na pati yung landscape shots and panoramic effects tapos samahan mo pa ng photoshop.. All a person will need eh "pera", tyaga at konting diskarte at madaming creativity.. Next and last DSLR ko is a Nikon D90 with 50mm f/1.8 prime lens and 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 IS walk-around zoomlens, di mo maikakaila ang quality ng photos nito, semi pro camera na ang dala ko, samahan mo pa ng skills na na-acquire ko for a long time with photography..

Pero after a while.. Napansin ko nahihirapan at naaasar na ako sa DSLR.. why? For one.. Ang mahal ng accessories, kailangan ko parati ng bag para madala ko.. Nung nasa US ako I tought magagamit ko ng husto DSLR ko but it turns out na mas marami pa akong kuha sa iPhone ko kesa sa DSLR ko.. Why? napaka hassle dalhin eh.. Ambigat, anglaki, takaw pansin pa.. Nakakailang.. and to think im not earning from maintaining this kind of setup.. Yet malaking pera ang lumalabas just for the purpose of having it.. eh ng iPhone ko, download lang ako ng apps at konting pindot magiging vintage instagram look na yung mga shots ko.. Pwede na monochrome.. Sephia, fisheye, lomo, UWA.. bokeh.. Depth of field focus at kung ano ano pa.. In a small package.. So I kinda feel cheated by this technology, kaya when I went back dito sa pinas I decided to waste my DSLR setup and downgra into a more handy and mobile setup with DSLR like controls.. I got myself the Fujifilm X10.. Atleast I still get the DSLR experience and photo quality with my knowledge of photography techniques then pair it with my iPhone and iPad for post processing.. Oks na! Without the hassle my former setup gives me.

in the end the question pa rin is kung ano yung nakakapagbigay sayo ng fullfillment as a hobbyist photographer eh.. Since pag pinili mong maging business ang photography obviously DSLR talaga dapat ang gagamitin mo, in my case lang talaga naging praktikal nalang talaga ako and siguro I got tired of the hassles and stereotype-branding a "hobbyist" DSLR-user gets everytime we go around a place to take a shot.
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2012, 10:57:29 AM »
eto nalang....kung enthusiast ka payag kaba sabihan ka ng iba na.....pre luma na dala mo ehh.....tingnan mo ko nag switch nako...kase eto na uso ngayun!

 

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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2012, 11:01:53 AM »
MAS MAGANDA RIN SIGURO YUNG DSLR JAN E MAY TEXT NA RIN AT APPS HEHE
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2012, 11:05:40 AM »
For me this is the closest explanation..

Ako I started with film SLR way back, a Canon EOS 1000f(n) camera with kit and telephoto lens, dun ako natuto ng basics like how to control shutter speed and aperture depending on the available natural light source, dun din ako natutong wag mag "depend" sa built in flash ng camera (unless inuman lang ang kukunan mo), dun din ako natutong mag manual focus ng lens, paglaruan ang depth of field at gumamit ng expired na film to simulate vintage tones.

After a while nag lie low ako sa photography then came the digital cameras, next camera ko is a DSLR na, the Nikon D40 with 18-55mm kitlens, bumili ako ng 28-200mm f/3.5-5.6 zoom lens at dito ako nagstart maging seryoso sa photography as a hobby, napakadali na kasi, nakikita ko na agad ang result ng kuha ko, wala ng tantyahan, di na nakakahiya ipakita mga shots mo kasi pwede mo ulitin pag panget, mas madali na ang long exposures at bulb shots for light photography, mas madali na pati yung landscape shots and panoramic effects tapos samahan mo pa ng photoshop.. All a person will need eh "pera", tyaga at konting diskarte at madaming creativity.. Next and last DSLR ko is a Nikon D90 with 50mm f/1.8 prime lens and 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 IS walk-around zoomlens, di mo maikakaila ang quality ng photos nito, semi pro camera na ang dala ko, samahan mo pa ng skills na na-acquire ko for a long time with photography..

Pero after a while.. Napansin ko nahihirapan at naaasar na ako sa DSLR.. why? For one.. Ang mahal ng accessories, kailangan ko parati ng bag para madala ko.. Nung nasa US ako I tought magagamit ko ng husto DSLR ko but it turns out na mas marami pa akong kuha sa iPhone ko kesa sa DSLR ko.. Why? napaka hassle dalhin eh.. Ambigat, anglaki, takaw pansin pa.. Nakakailang.. and to think im not earning from maintaining this kind of setup.. Yet malaking pera ang lumalabas just for the purpose of having it.. eh ng iPhone ko, download lang ako ng apps at konting pindot magiging vintage instagram look na yung mga shots ko.. Pwede na monochrome.. Sephia, fisheye, lomo, UWA.. bokeh.. Depth of field focus at kung ano ano pa.. In a small package.. So I kinda feel cheated by this technology, kaya when I went back dito sa pinas I decided to waste my DSLR setup and downgra into a more handy and mobile setup with DSLR like controls.. I got myself the Fujifilm X10.. Atleast I still get the DSLR experience and photo quality with my knowledge of photography techniques then pair it with my iPhone and iPad for post processing.. Oks na! Without the hassle my former setup gives me.

in the end the question pa rin is kung ano yung nakakapagbigay sayo ng fullfillment as a hobbyist photographer eh.. Since pag pinili mong maging business ang photography obviously DSLR talaga dapat ang gagamitin mo, in my case lang talaga naging praktikal nalang talaga ako and siguro I got tired of the hassles and stereotype-branding a "hobbyist" DSLR-user gets everytime we go around a place to take a shot.

thanks for that insight bro rocko...meron din ako dalang digital zoom camera nalang, good quality narin....gusto ko parin ng tunay na cam when taking pictures...i  bring the big one to special occasions nalang or if i was hired to do a specific photo job

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2012, 11:06:33 AM »
eto nalang....kung enthusiast ka payag kaba sabihan ka ng iba na.....pre luma na dala mo ehh.....tingnan mo ko nag switch nako...kase eto na uso ngayun!

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« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2012, 11:10:13 AM »
eto nalang....kung enthusiast ka payag kaba sabihan ka ng iba na.....pre luma na dala mo ehh.....tingnan mo ko nag switch nako...kase eto na uso ngayun!

Sasabihin ko, "Ok lang. Patingin naman ng shots mo." :-D

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« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2012, 05:27:29 PM »
yes i think that was my point...we'll know who the real enthusiast are...because surely the ones that arent will go with the times and go for the all in one device...the ones that really want to learn will invest and still go for a real camera... even though there are tons of apps that could edit your picture...iba parin yun matuto kang maglaro ng settings according to your surroundings...infact the only thing i do on photoshop is curves to brighten up dark photos 

they are coming out now with lens adapters for smartphones wtf!,analysts saying the game is changing! really? you think?

kahit na sabihin mo smartphone camera still a camera....i dont think so...i cant imagine even a pro using a tab or a phone to do his work

if youre a serious photographer dslr parin...thats what i meant for exclusive

how about micro 4/3rds? di na pwede maging serious photographer dahil hindi dslr? i don't own one,
pero if i have one and namamaximize ko naman that's fine with me.
personally i only have my pentax + kitlens niya, and upgrades ko lang yung flash,trigger and yung 50 1.4 ko before na nabenta ko na (sayang), pero with these minor upgrades i can still say na marami pa kong decent na kuha vs sa mga kakilala ko/ nakikita ko na kung ano anong upgrade pa ang ginagawa sa camera nila di naman nila namamaximize ang masaklap pa puro salita lang :))
and yup almost 2 years ng ganun ang setup ko and i'm just a hobbyist. mas priority ang studies muna hehe

eto nalang....kung enthusiast ka payag kaba sabihan ka ng iba na.....pre luma na dala mo ehh.....tingnan mo ko nag switch nako...kase eto na uso ngayun!

wag na lang magpaapekto sa salita ng iba, alam mo kung ano ang kaya mo, kung nainis ka sa nagsabi nito o dahil sa pagkakasabi nito may kulang pa sayo. masyado ng mababaw ang mga ganyang issue masisira lang araw niyo pag nagpaapekto pa kayo haha
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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2012, 02:47:12 PM »
Sasabihin ko, "Ok lang. Patingin naman ng shots mo." :-D

Nice one Sir Kurt. :mrgreen:
 yeah totoo sinsabi ni Haxo55
na wag ka nalang papa apekto kung sabihin nila na oldy na gamit mo ano pake nila eh kung yung old na gear mo dun ka kumportable na mag take ng decent photos tsaka wala naman yan kahit new model or old model yan nasa gumagamit pa yan ako kita nyo ako aminado ako almost 2yrs na ako nag ttake photos using Dslr and still nag eerror ako and sometimes wla talaga ako kuha na maganda so talaga na sa skills yan ng gumagamit..

tapos kung smartphone Vs DSLR well kung photos talga hanap mo i prefer Dslr kase nka design sya tlaga to take photos

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2012, 03:17:51 PM »
ibalik ang film reels para mas magkaintindihan na hehehe.

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Re: the smartphone vs the dslr
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2012, 04:41:45 AM »
the 41 MP Nokia 808, though nothing beats a good DLSR  :)



sample shot



hehe! okay nga rin no?! :-D

Back to topic:

basta nakukuha mo yung hinahanap mo pag kumuha ng pictures eh okay na set-up na yun! :-D sa ngayon siyempre sa DSLR mo parin magagawa yun, pero kung sakali lumabas sa mobile bat hinde, mas magaan yun eh.. hassle free pa!

yung tungkol sa enthusiast vs wannabes, bahala na sila sa buhay nila!
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