Author Topic: all about DRUMHEADS thread (Read 46054 times)

omnicloud7 · « **on:** July 01, 2006, 10:42:10 PM »

helo po mga sir! hingi lang sana po ako ng advice sa kung anong head ang maadvise niyo sakin kasi balak kong palitan yung snare head ko e. ano pong drum head ang sa tingin niyo pinakamaganda sa snare? thanks in advance. =)

Eni · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2006, 12:04:42 AM »

remo coated ambasador/evans coated g1/remo coated controlled sound
over remo snare side ambasador

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2006, 07:17:01 PM »

hmm. thanks!. oh yah btw, yung friend ko binebentahan ako ng coated na pinstripe for my snare. are they any good? san po nga pala makakbili ng mga evans heads? so far puro remos ang mga nakikita ko e.

thanks in advance! =)

Eni · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2006, 08:47:45 PM »

Quote from: omnicloud7

hmm. thanks!. oh yah btw, yung friend ko binebentahan ako ng coated na pinstripe for my snare. are they any good? san po nga pala makakbili ng mga evans heads? so far puro remos ang mga nakikita ko e.

thanks in advance! =)

no,they arent good for snare drum.
evans are available in audiophile,sa quiapo daw.

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 07, 2006, 08:50:00 PM »

hehe, hingi lang po ulit ako sana ng advice tungkol sa mga heads.
when i searched for drum heads around malls, hindi ako makapili ng drum head sa mga nakita ko, ito yung mga nakita ko, pakisabi na lang po kung alin sa opinyon nyo yung best for snares. =)

remo coated ambassador
evans genera hd coated
evans hazy coated snare drum head

may nakita rin ako evans g1 pero ang mahal kasi kasama siya sa isang set. di ko pa naman kailangan ng set eh, yung para sa snare lang. hehe
thanks in advance for your opinyons! =)

bam0120 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2006, 01:38:10 AM »

Quote from: omnicloud7

hehe, hingi lang po ulit ako sana ng advice tungkol sa mga heads.
when i searched for drum heads around malls, hindi ako makapili ng drum head sa mga nakita ko, ito yung mga nakita ko, pakisabi na lang po kung alin sa opinyon nyo yung best for snares. =)

remo coated ambassador
evans genera hd coated
evans hazy coated snare drum head

may nakita rin ako evans g1 pero ang mahal kasi kasama siya sa isang set. di ko pa naman kailangan ng set eh, yung para sa snare lang. hehe
thanks in advance for your opinyons! =)

remo coated ambassador
evans g1 - mas mahal

almost same lng sila, pinaka versatile yang two na yan

reme pinstripe - for toms and bass only...but sometimes used as batter for snare drums.. for others only.. kanya kanya lng yan.

judithp_shredder · « **Reply #6 on:** July 08, 2006, 12:05:59 PM »

maganada din ba tumunog ang ambassador na skin pag nilgagay mo sa mga tomtoms, kasi may sizes din dba, instead of pinstripe for the tomtoms,

any comments or suggestion na durable din para sa mga tomtoms

Miggleness · « **Reply #7 on:** July 08, 2006, 01:57:43 PM »

remo coated ambassador is equivalent to Evans G1 coated. Not that they give the same sound. I read that G1 coated gives a cleaner sound and has better coating (but in doubt ako sa coating ng evans). Haven't tried either on my snare tho.

evans hazy (200/300) coated snare drum head - This is the snare side head or resonant head of evans. Remo's equivalent product is the Ambassador/Diplomat snare side.

Ang gamit ko ngayon Evans Power center reverse dot over Hazy 300. Its basically an Evans G1 with a thin round film about 5 inches in diameter at the center underneath the head. Sayang walang picture nun...

I really love the sound of it. Gives a more focused crack when hit at the center and reduces ring. Gives a ringy slap when hit outside the area of the DOT. Parang Evans Power Center or Remo controlled sound sya na hindi masyadong namumuffle ang ring.

Unfortunately, yung mga snare heads ng evans dito ay kasama lang sa pack (G1,G2 clears), bulok nga! Kaya mag-Remo ka na lang. I've heard remo ambs on snare drum at gaganda ng tunog. But since its one ply 10mil (like evans G1) medyo ringy sya, something that might bother you eventually.

ambassador on toms is a good idea. Matibay naman ito basta maayos kang pumalo. Kung maganda ang drumset mo, lalabas ang tunog nya sa single ply heads kasi hindi namu-muffle yung tunog. Again, you should try it. If you play rock, better stick with G2, EC2, Emperor, or Pinstripe.

Eni · « **Reply #8 on:** July 08, 2006, 02:22:11 PM »

Quote from: omnicloud7

hehe, hingi lang po ulit ako sana ng advice tungkol sa mga heads.
when i searched for drum heads around malls, hindi ako makapili ng drum head sa mga nakita ko, ito yung mga nakita ko, pakisabi na lang po kung alin sa opinyon nyo yung best for snares. =)

remo coated ambassador
evans genera hd coated
evans hazy coated snare drum head

may nakita rin ako evans g1 pero ang mahal kasi kasama siya sa isang set. di ko pa naman kailangan ng set eh, yung para sa snare lang. hehe
thanks in advance for your opinyons! =)

get remo coated amb over remo clear snare side amb.
pag evans, g1 over hazy 300/200
pag gus2 mo mas focus tunog. get 2 ply(coated) or ung may dot ung batter.
ganun talaga,mahal.drummer eh.

ahaha

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2006, 08:52:37 PM »

tanong lang po. kasi since 1-ply lang yung ambassador, does that mean mejo madali siyang mabutas? hehehe, la pa kasi ako ejo alam tungkol sa mga ply eh. =)

peeves24 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2006, 09:15:24 PM »

nope, unless you:

a. are heavy hitter
b. have poor technique (if you have dimples on your head and break sticks often then you know you lack it)
c. are so thrifty, pinipilit pa ring gamitin yung stick kahit pudpod na at wala ng tip
d. let somebody else use your snare

Eni · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2006, 10:31:02 PM »

Quote from: peeves24

nope, unless you:

a. are heavy hitter
b. have poor technique (if you have dimples on your head and break sticks often then you know you lack it)
c. are so thrifty, pinipilit pa ring gamitin yung stick kahit pudpod na at wala ng tip
d. let somebody else use your snare

123

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2006, 10:55:33 PM »

ah okay. sa totoo lang, di ko lam kung hard hitter ako. =) thanks nga pala sa lahat ng nag reply dito a.

bam0120 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2006, 11:23:36 PM »

Quote from: peeves24

nope, unless you:

a. are heavy hitter
b. have poor technique (if you have dimples on your head and break sticks often then you know you lack it)
c. are so thrifty, pinipilit pa ring gamitin yung stick kahit pudpod na at wala ng tip
d. let somebody else use your snare

wow multiple choice, gusto ko yung D

bwahahahahaha

=)

peeves24 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 16, 2006, 07:31:35 PM »

surprise surprise i cleaned my drums today and experimented tuning combinations on the toms. i mentioned before that im using remo pinstripes on batter and lazer double ply on resonants for the toms. today i tried to switch them over and used the lazers as batter instead.

result: lazer double ply > remo pinstripes hehehe

i got deeper lows and really focused sounds. the lazers are definitely a step up to pinstripes in sound. i sometimes put muffling on my 16 tom when they were on pinstripes but now i dont have to.

i was skeptical about lazers and dismissed them as good for backups and reso only for the longest time but now im a fan!

just dont use lazer on snare, i've tried it on my maple and metal snares and couldnt get it to sound lively. its too dark and lacking crispness.

Eni · « **Reply #15 on:** July 16, 2006, 07:46:51 PM »

2ply over 2ply? woah,focused nga yan,ganda sa studio types. pero di ko recomend yan sa live?,.pero wag lng sana dead ang sound. kc i prefer naopen ang sound ng tom q.kc 10 feet away my kit sounds brilliant.

my plan

evans reverse dot over remo snareside amb clear on snare
evans g2 coated over remo clear amb on toms
remo power stroke 3 over evans eq3 bass

wahehehehehhe

peeves24 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 16, 2006, 07:55:06 PM »

2 ply over 2 ply when tuned medium tight (top and bottom having the same tension) still sing. they also sound the same near or far from the kit

Eni · « **Reply #17 on:** July 16, 2006, 08:02:51 PM »

Quote from: peeves24

2 ply over 2 ply when tuned medium tight (top and bottom having the same tension) still sing. they also sound the same near or far from the kit

howd u do that.?!
damn im jealous. di ko talaga magawa i tune ang 2ply resonant haha.>_<
pag na tune ko sabi ng tom, booooiiiing dang.hahaha

peeves24 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 16, 2006, 08:17:32 PM »

practice...lots and lots of it. then there's the lug count and bearing edge consideration.

boing boing din yung tunog ng toms ko dati but i couldnt justify the cost of a new kit so i tried 'modding' it. perfect bearing edges are the key to improve sound and easier tuning. my drums used to have a straight 45 degree bearing edge and it was boingy as hell. not to mention that it was rough and uneven! i read about the old style bearing edges which have a round-over counter cut on the outside. i leveled both edges and did classic style edges then tuning became a breeze ever since.

my 16" tom originally came as a 6 lugger, replaced the hoops for 8 lugs and re drilled the lug holes. big big difference too.

Eni · « **Reply #19 on:** July 16, 2006, 08:23:04 PM »

hindi ko kaya mag modify ng kits haha.tune tune tune na lng. >_<
i believe na mas maganda 30 deg sa tomtoms para may initial focused sound at 45 sa snare for max. resonance.

minsan nakakabanas pag tune mo na ung every lugs. ayaw mag parehas ng tunog wahahah

Miggleness · « **Reply #20 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:06:15 PM »

lupet tlaga ng ginawa mo pao!

i agree eni, masmahirap itune yung 2 ply heads. Di ko nga gusto yugn nabili kong G2, kahit nanapalitan ko. Sticky at madaling matanggal ang coating ng snare batter. Tapos may parts ng G2 na patay ang tunog pag itono. bleh! Next time mag amb coated na lang ako siguro for everything unless makapagorder ako ng EC2.

sound samples namna pao!

legnacilyz · « **Reply #21 on:** July 16, 2006, 10:07:48 PM »

waw... tama nga naging expression ko sa lazer heads.. ung lazer heads ba n 2 ply is yung may white na ring? kasi nag jam kme ng mga friends ko sa lazer cubao... kahet na puro dents na ung lazer na head sa tom, ayos p nman ung tunog.. ü magkano kuya peeves ang bli mo sa lazer heads? maybe that'll be a good headstart for me and my drum..

peeves24 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 17, 2006, 07:58:35 AM »

Quote from: Miggleness

sound samples namna pao!

next sweldo, kulang ko na lang snare mic na matino

Quote from: legnacilyz

waw... tama nga naging expression ko sa lazer heads.. ung lazer heads ba n 2 ply is yung may white na ring? kasi nag jam kme ng mga friends ko sa lazer cubao... kahet na puro dents na ung lazer na head sa tom, ayos p nman ung tunog.. ü magkano kuya peeves ang bli mo sa lazer heads? maybe that'll be a good headstart for me and my drum..

hmmm walang white ring yung sa kin, clear sya na parang pinstripe din ang itsura except wala rung black ring. oil filled sa gitna tapos parang compressed yung edge. 515 each para sa 16" tapos 350 ata yung 12"

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #23 on:** July 17, 2006, 06:25:58 PM »

yup, drum tuning ang pinakaimportante sa pagpaganda ng tunog ng drums. i have my stock fernando heads on my drumset. sobrang ayos na ng tunog nito for me once nahanap ko yung right tunog. ang problema nga lang is i really need to muffle them kasi maliit lang room ko kayo ang lakas nung overtones and nung echo. sa snare ganun din, natanggal ko na yung parang bakal na tunog and i found a nice quack este crack sound. =)

legnacilyz · « **Reply #24 on:** July 17, 2006, 11:34:05 PM »

So far nman po, nkuha ko n ung mejo close sa preferd sound ko sa tom... Stock heads of fernando is 1 ply (i guess) so i think they will produce boingy unfocused sound. Grabe, it's a pain in the neck nung hinahanap ko ung closest sound. pag mababa lng ung tuning, ok lng. pag tinaas mo, it gives you a choked sound. natry ko nga dati na ung mga CD labels, dinikit ko sa gitna ng heads. umayos ung tunog pero choked pren ng onti. Pero my master told me that id rather muffled the edge of the heads than the middle. ang kalokohan kong ginawa? rugby.. nilagyan ko paikot ung head. prang o-ring.. heheheh let it dry. then tried it. dun ko na achieve ung closest sound. Pero magkaiba pren ng feel compared to remos.... ü

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