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Title: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 14, 2007, 10:55:36 PM
Last week, radiostationexp brought over his Behringer Hellbabe to see if anything can be done to improve it. The Hellbabe is generally regarded in the guitar community as an entry-level piece of equipment, if not a POS. Hardly any pro or serious musician would use it. IMHO. Anyway...
This golden opportunity for me to study it. So we opened it, tweaked around a bit. Hmmm...dig this..all possible mods for traditional wahs are built in. Variable sweep control, Q-control, there's a fine tune knob for i-dont-know-what-yet, and looky looky...a built-in booster ! Yeah. Has a spring too so it pushes back when you release.This is gonna put wah modders out of business. Anyway I inquired what the complaint was. And radiostationexp's complaint(which seems to be the general observation): bitin ang sweep.
Studied it further. Hmmm...surface mount, PCB-mounted controls...so Behringer. Optical. Hmmm...no pot to wear out. Akin, or perhaps more apt, ripped from the Morley Bad Horsie design. Looked at the boards. Hmmm...TL082 op amp chips. Dual JFET-input op-amps (surface mount albeit). Not bad at all. Audio grade, low-noise chips and not the bipolar-input POS chips found on stock DS1's and TS9's.
Anyway, after tinkering, I seem to have disabled its ability to bypass. So ariff left the unit with me, but graciously mined the internet for data on it and he found a couple of ways to improve it.
Just tonight, I thought I'd take it up again. So using the data ariff sent me, I proceeded to fix the trouble I caused (no bypass) by lowering the LED and LDR of the large notch on the plastic light blocker. It worked...fixed the problem. Next, with a hobby knife, I proceeded to cut out the small notch which actually controls the sweep of the wah. First I cut it down towards the LED/LDR so the sweep would start early in the rocking action. Preliminary tests were encouraging. Sounded much better, and the sweep was wider. Then as a coup d' grace, I started to cut upwards, thus enlarging the triangle. When you do this, make sure to *somehow* maintain the slope of the triangle, or at least keep close to it. Too much cut and you will lose the sweep. With that final cut done, we tried it again (me, psychic sushi and chito_eoi). Wow ! There's the rub ! Nice, wide sweep with a very conspicous "me-owww". That's it, no further mods required.
With this simple mod, surely, the Behringer Hellbabe will make a worthy addition to your pedalboard. Yep. Even for professional use.
I love cheap stuff. :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: the_jj on April 14, 2007, 11:09:40 PM
so sir, hellbabe is better than boston metal wah?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 14, 2007, 11:15:52 PM
IMHO-qualified. From a features and durability point of view (and I mean durability in use, and not durability as a bludgeon), yeah I'd say it is much more superior to the Boston metal wah. As for the sound...well...the Behringer was very good. Psychic_sushi said it sounded better than his DOD FX17 wah. And well...I can only trust his ears :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on April 14, 2007, 11:21:51 PM
uy sayang p mod ko sana ung hellbabe ko nung nagrecording kmi dyan kso nhiya ako hhe. how much p mod sir?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 14, 2007, 11:23:39 PM
Uhh...free ? :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on April 15, 2007, 12:03:11 AM
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BlackDiamond on April 15, 2007, 09:37:52 AM
WOW! sir bamf mukhang pupunta na naman ako dyan ah... ayoko gumastos sa wah kse hindi ko naman masyado gagamitin! heheheheh sana may stock pa sa stores para makabili na! heheheheheh :evil: :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 15, 2007, 10:17:53 AM
Lessee...how do you charge for a service that is composed of two cuts with a hobby knife ? :D
Sige na nga. One pack of Winston Reds :D
pahingi isang stick!!! :)
i did have the chace to try this wah ped at BAMF's place last night.. for a cheap pedal na nagiging sobrang ganda dahil sa modiffication... +1000 syo boss BAMF!!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: psychic_sushi on April 15, 2007, 07:27:12 PM
I like to regard what BAMF does as electronic alchemy. Turning lead into gold :wink:
After first playing that hellbabe, the wah travel (i tweaked and tweaked all that can be tweaked, mini knobs and what not), i felt the wah was anemic, lacking in sweep range. Thank heavens fafa BAMF took the scalpel to the section that regulates the LED output.
After his tweak... OOOOMPHH!!!
Damn, it honestly sounded like a Bad Horsie, PLUS, more variable control coz of the Q filter, sweep range and other stuff. I want one!
Ok, we all know that wahs based on LED and capacitance are clean, and don't have the "dirt" that potentiometer based wahs, right?!
BAMF!!! Time to scalarize the mofo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:
This wah will make the others sweat
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: bembang_jones on April 15, 2007, 09:38:47 PM
sobrang WOW nito ah...finally i really made the right choice on buying a hellbabe...thanks sir bamf for the info...
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: radiostationexp on April 16, 2007, 07:46:37 AM
Woohoo! :-D
Been inactive sa philmusic over the weekend at kakasilip ko lang ulit. Ayus!
Ser Jobet, will drop by the shop tomorrow with a pack of Winston reds! :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: sanchai on April 16, 2007, 07:57:43 AM
Lessee...how do you charge for a service that is composed of two cuts with a hobby knife ? :D
Sige na nga. One pack of Winston Reds :D
Ayus! God Bless you sir jobet! :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: bembang_jones on April 16, 2007, 09:51:29 PM
please philmusic can u BAMF my gear? :mrgreen:
sir bamf seryoso libre pa-mod for a hellbabe?
soundclips naman dyan...=)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: GERARD DEDIOS on April 17, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
HELLO SER BAMF!
ito po si GERARD DE DIOS, bahista ni MANNY AMADOR. balak kong magpa-mod ng hellbabae wah ko. dadalhan kita ng WINSTON REDS! WITH LIGHTER! hehe .. ;-) thanks in advance and more power to you and everyone here in PHILMUSIC!
-GERARD DE DIOS
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: IncX on April 17, 2007, 02:05:56 PM
wag nyong patayin si BAMF sa lung cancer! dalhan nyo sya ng fruits at vegetables!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on April 17, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
fruit flavored winston reds. :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 17, 2007, 05:46:50 PM
O eto mga ser, just in case you want to save the trip to PIMP.
Pwede din Redheads kung meron kayo jan hahahah. Meron ata sa Subic.
Before...tignan nyo na lang yung Hellbabe nyo. Eto na yung after. I reckon this mod will also apply to the Morley Bad Horsie from which the optical system seems to be ripped from.
wag nyong patayin si BAMF sa lung cancer! dalhan nyo sya ng fruits at vegetables!
saging! ito lang may puso! :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: radiostationexp on April 17, 2007, 09:06:45 PM
Just picked up my hellbabe from PIMP a few hours ago. After giving it a try I immediately noticed that the sweep range improved IMMENSELY! The mod really makes a difference! :-D
Looks like the people at Behringer didn't really give enough serious thought into the design of this wah. Dami ngang bells and whistles (tweakable knobs) but the basic function (to WAAAHH, gedemit!) wasn't given due attention!
Bili na ng hellbabe mga parekoy bago maubusan! Di kayo magsisisi! :-D
Salamat din kay BAMF para sa kanyang kapangahasan at lakas ng loob sa "pag-tuli" ng hellbabe ko. :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 17, 2007, 09:14:31 PM
Parang mas masarap pakinggan..."sa pag-gahasa at pag-devirginize ng Hellbabe ko" mwahahaha.
Isipin mo...pinalaki ko hiwa nya mwahahaha
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: marzi on April 17, 2007, 09:16:52 PM
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: subzero on April 17, 2007, 10:20:09 PM
ayus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D :-D :-Dkadadala ko pa lng ng hellbabe ko kanina,sir BAMF libre b talaga?tnx nga po pala sa ME-30 ko,ayus!!!!!!!!!!!!!no worries na ako.tnx nga pala sa nagbenta ng hellbabe nya sa akin ng 1,5k sulit na sulit........................(kasi nakuha ko ito 3 gives,he!he!he!)..........
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: progressive_pilipinas on April 17, 2007, 10:49:36 PM
bayani ka talaga!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: jandavedarrel on April 18, 2007, 12:45:11 PM
Galing ser! :wink:
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: bembang_jones on April 18, 2007, 06:26:36 PM
O eto mga ser, just in case you want to save the trip to PIMP.
Pwede din Redheads kung meron kayo jan hahahah. Meron ata sa Subic.
Before...tignan nyo na lang yung Hellbabe nyo. Eto na yung after. I reckon this mod will also apply to the Morley Bad Horsie from which the optical system seems to be ripped from.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 18, 2007, 07:22:36 PM
HOnga di ako makakuha ng magandang shot. Anyway, yung butas sa kaliwa, yun yung nagre-regulate ng bypass/effect ng hellbabe. Yung butas sa kanan, yun yung nagko-control ng sweep. Yun ang palalakihin nyo. Sa original na Hellbabe, maliit at singkit talaga yang butas na yan. Pahabain nyo lang pababa at pataas, following the same slope ng original hole. :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on April 21, 2007, 12:10:54 AM
up ntin bk magkroon c sir bamf ng malinaw n pix.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on April 21, 2007, 12:39:28 AM
Ala nang Hellbabe dito e, kinuha na pareho.
I took 3 shots. Let's see kung mapalinawan natin sa software. Pag nagfa-flash kasi ako, glare naman ang kalaban.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: superoxy on April 27, 2007, 01:09:50 PM
wala pang clearer picture?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: subzero on April 29, 2007, 12:14:28 AM
sir paano po ba maglagay ng pics?gusto ko po sana ipakita yung ginawa po sa hellbabe ko ni sir BAMF malinaw po yung kuha ko kaso d ko po alam kung paano ayaw po lumabas eh!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: chadrhix on April 29, 2007, 12:20:45 AM
sir paano po ba maglagay ng pics?gusto ko po sana ipakita yung ginawa po sa hellbabe ko ni sir BAMF malinaw po yung kuha ko kaso d ko po alam kung paano ayaw po lumabas eh!
upload it here
http://www.imageshack.us/
(http://then paste the url here)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on April 29, 2007, 01:48:31 PM
eto ung pix. (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/brutusjam2/DSC00480.jpg)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on April 29, 2007, 01:50:33 PM
si sir bamf n bhala mag explain. hehe.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: pings15 on May 02, 2007, 06:44:57 PM
sir san yung lugar niyo? parang gusto ko dumaan..
hellbabe lng ba un pwedeng niyong i mod?...
:-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: titser_marco on May 02, 2007, 07:35:10 PM
BAMF, kaya bang alisin yung spring ang make it work just like a crybaby? I have a spare dpdt switch here kasi and I've been wondering kung pwedeng gawing stomp based yung switching system ng hellbabe so I can just leave it in one position and act like a tone control. :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on May 02, 2007, 11:58:20 PM
Yes the bypass control LDR can be bypassed...and yes the spring can be removed. I've never done it before tho although I do know how it's done. Wanna offer a Hellbabe for an experiment ?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: titser_marco on May 03, 2007, 07:39:41 AM
sige will try to score a cheap 2nd hand unit :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on May 03, 2007, 02:07:50 PM
eto ung pix. (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/brutusjam2/DSC00480.jpg)
Uki ! The slot to the left is the one that controls the bypass/effect. The LDR governing this can be replaced by an SPST latching switch. Hindi nga lang true bypass. Anyway, the slit on the right is the one that controls the sweep. In the original Hellbabe and Bad Horsie, this slit is very small. Such so that the sweep only begins in mid-rock position. The picture here shows the lengthened sweep slit, which starts just above the LED/LDR pair so that the wah action begins early in the rocking action.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: joysthick on May 10, 2007, 05:34:24 PM
sir bamf tnong lang po, ano po ba value ng led ng hellbabe, ung kulay puti na nasa sweep at ung status led nya pareho lang ba sa na bibili sa deeco at alexan? thank you.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on May 10, 2007, 08:27:48 PM
clear ultra-bright Red.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: Lahed92801 on May 10, 2007, 08:32:04 PM
Hey guys, how about the pedal itsself? Is it durable enough?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: radiostationexp on May 11, 2007, 08:17:44 AM
For normal use, durable naman siya. Pero kung ipapang-hampas mo sa rambulan....tiyak masisira ito! :-D
I've had mine for almost a year now and it's still working fine. Infinitely better than the Daphon wah I had before it. That was a worthless piece of junk!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: m1k3 on May 11, 2007, 11:25:52 AM
eto ung pix. (http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a241/brutusjam2/DSC00480.jpg)
may butas at slit ba talaga o c sir bamf na nag lagay??
May mga butas na talaga 'yan. As BAMF explained, dine-virginize--este-- pinalaki lang nya ang butas para mag-improve ang sweep.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: niwrad_nagnap on May 11, 2007, 03:40:10 PM
so, ung butas meron na pero ung slit ala pa? pano din i lowered ung led?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: boy_noel on May 11, 2007, 08:38:58 PM
sensya na mejo ot: sir bamf, kaya din po ba i mod ung wah ng zoom gfx5?
tnx!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: ayofish on May 14, 2007, 03:18:12 PM
this is incredible !!!!! just finished doing this on my hellbabe!!!!!! my god grabe!!!!!! feeel na feel mo talaga ung improvement after cutting ehheheh kawawa naman hellbabe ko d na babe dalaga na maluwag na slit nya eh ehehheh. ginalaw ko din ung led para sa ldr para mas maaga mag on angas parang instant on pag lapag ng paa palang ehheeh kahit isang toe palang on na!!!!!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: stringman on May 14, 2007, 03:25:42 PM
this is incredible !!!!! just finished doing this on my hellbabe!!!!!! my god grabe!!!!!! feeel na feel mo talaga ung improvement after cutting ehheheh kawawa naman hellbabe ko d na babe dalaga na maluwag na slit nya eh ehehheh. ginalaw ko din ung led para sa ldr para mas maaga mag on angas parang instant on pag lapag ng paa palang ehheeh kahit isang toe palang on na!!!!!!
pics naman
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: ayofish on May 14, 2007, 05:29:52 PM
Magkano na kaya brand new hellbabe ngayon? Saan kaya pinakamura?
Nakakaintriga ung mod eh! hehehehe :-D
2895 sya sa behringer.sulit naman eh . kaysa sa bumili ka ng bad horsie na halos 10k sa jb or bumili ka 2nd hand na behringer na malay mo maiksi na life span or baka nagkamali sa pag mod ung orig na owner ehehhehe. pero online , the hellbabe only cost's 30 dollars.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: ayofish on May 14, 2007, 05:31:24 PM
this is incredible !!!!! just finished doing this on my hellbabe!!!!!! my god grabe!!!!!! feeel na feel mo talaga ung improvement after cutting ehheheh kawawa naman hellbabe ko d na babe dalaga na maluwag na slit nya eh ehehheh. ginalaw ko din ung led para sa ldr para mas maaga mag on angas parang instant on pag lapag ng paa palang ehheeh kahit isang toe palang on na!!!!!!
pics naman
no need na for pics kasi i did exactly what was on the picture on this thread pero ginalaw ko lng positions ng leds para earlier ang sweep dumating at para mas maaga mag on ung effect hehehhe
thanks for the mod instructions sir bamf!!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: oist on May 15, 2007, 11:02:15 AM
eto na naman.... hehe..
hellbabe.. here i come!!
:-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: deroskas on May 15, 2007, 11:21:34 AM
Hmmm... parang gusto ku bumili ng hellbabe ah... :-D
tnx sir BAMF for the info!
up!! up!! up!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: niwrad_nagnap on May 15, 2007, 12:41:35 PM
pano ba galawin ung led and sang led?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: ayofish on May 15, 2007, 09:15:32 PM
i saw in the pic kasi na parang ginalaw ung alignment ng led sa sweep eh. kasi ung concept is more light from the led to the ldr mas mag wah ehheh so pag inadjust mo edi mas aaga dating ng sweep kasi mas maaga mag kaka ilaw
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: oist on May 20, 2007, 03:32:25 AM
meron ba soundclips jan??
very interested ako marinig to... hehe :-D
Title: SA MGA NAGHAHANAP NG MODIFIED HELLBABE! ETO 1.8K
Post by: GERARD DEDIOS on June 11, 2007, 04:05:39 PM
IM SELLING A BEHRINGER HELLBABE WAH ADJUSTED NY SIR JOBET (BAMF) FOR 1.8K PLS TEXT ME AT 09173765638 -GERARD
Title: Re: SA MGA NAGHAHANAP NG MODIFIED HELLBABE! ETO 1.8K
Post by: m1k3 on June 12, 2007, 08:39:04 AM
HOnga di ako makakuha ng magandang shot. Anyway, yung butas sa kaliwa, yun yung nagre-regulate ng bypass/effect ng hellbabe. Yung butas sa kanan, yun yung nagko-control ng sweep. Yun ang palalakihin nyo. Sa original na Hellbabe, maliit at singkit talaga yang butas na yan. Pahabain nyo lang pababa at pataas, following the same slope ng original hole. :D
Pano kung maipasok sa maling butas? Di ba masakit? :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: radiostationexp on July 06, 2007, 02:53:39 PM
not if you use the right lubricant........
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: lateralis on July 14, 2007, 08:34:31 PM
i'll buy one on the end of the month probably 8-)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: reps on August 09, 2007, 07:42:04 PM
totoo ba na may clicking sound ang hellbabe pag na-engage na yung pedal?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: snidd on August 09, 2007, 07:53:16 PM
sir BAMF:
is this mod also applicable sa mga morley? if yes, i might pass by your shop. :D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: andrew_O_O on August 09, 2007, 08:28:18 PM
ung wah sweep is that the tone change from when the wah is all the way back and then rocked all the way front?
anyway if it is...kaya nyo ba sir bamf na improve ung gcb95 "sweep" medyo too fast/abrupt kasi ung tone change pag ginagamit.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: omen on August 10, 2007, 12:00:11 AM
totoo ba na may clicking sound ang hellbabe pag na-engage na yung pedal?
hindi po totoo.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: firemodel55 on August 10, 2007, 07:13:34 AM
BAMF,
You forgot to comment and analyze the most important part and heart and soul of a WAH. The inductor...
So until you prove that the inductor in the Hellbabe rivals, inductors voiced by RMC, Orion and Area 51 -- suspend your accolades.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: firemodel55 on August 10, 2007, 07:19:26 AM
ooopss.
I made a mistake... This thing does not seem to have an inductor. Crap.
So, you are right. It might be the greatest value for money wah without an inductor with all the mods and flexible options.
For real nice and warm sounding wahs, please look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: guitarizta11 on August 10, 2007, 08:52:33 AM
sir BAMF, can you really fix the problem of hellbabe??.. i mean, i had a friend who had it..so i tried to try it.. :lol: when i heard the "sweep", hell it's really crap.. so if you can, i will really recommend him to you.. :lol: tnx po..
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on August 10, 2007, 09:20:59 AM
sir BAMF, can you really fix the problem of hellbabe??.. i mean, i had a friend who had it..so i tried to try it.. :lol: when i heard the "sweep", hell it's really crap.. so if you can, i will really recommend him to you.. :lol: tnx po..
Yep. Please go to the first post :D. That's all there is to it.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: radiostationexp on August 10, 2007, 09:26:34 AM
Iba pa rin ang warmth na galing sa inductor... it tickles the mid range of the ear
Oo naman no argument there. Between a wah with no inductor and a wah na meron, iba talaga ang meron.
I'll report back after the experiment :D . I put an organicore scalarizer on my POS Behringer compressor and whoah. Then on a CS3. Ganda. Basically on anything electronic that you want to warm up.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: radiostationexp on August 10, 2007, 12:13:41 PM
sir BAMF, can you really fix the problem of hellbabe??.. i mean, i had a friend who had it..so i tried to try it.. :lol: when i heard the "sweep", hell it's really crap.. so if you can, i will really recommend him to you.. :lol: tnx po..
Yep. Please go to the first post :D. That's all there is to it.
ok tnx po sir..
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: mjpartinez on August 10, 2007, 01:55:36 PM
pde ba i scalarize yung od tsaka dist na behringer? have you tried sir?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on August 10, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
pde ba i scalarize yung od tsaka dist na behringer? have you tried sir?
I did it on my Behringer CS100 compressor sustainer. I'm not sure...perhaps I was uncreative at the time, but the way I did it was to lift the output jack and insert it there. It works a a proof of concept, but in actual use, it's not advisable. Because that will mean that your signal, whether bypassed or not, will pass through the scalarizer and you will have a permanent scalarizer in your signal path.
The righter way to do it is to find an insertion point that's inside the effects circuitry that will not be in the path of the bypass route. That way, when you bypass the effect, even the scalarizer is bypassed.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: bongraider on August 10, 2007, 07:57:52 PM
A little OT sir bamf, i have a morley pvw(the old one) which is one weak as sh-t wah, especially if put first in the signal chain. when put after distortion, the sweep is much better but it sucks half of my tone away.
would you recommend that i do the same mod you did with the rocker pedal "windows"?
do you think i should do like you did with the hellbabe? if i understand correctly you cut out the groove in the middle and turned the "window" into an inverse triangle, right?
or would you know of a mod for this?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: oist on August 15, 2007, 08:22:32 PM
pde ba i scalarize yung od tsaka dist na behringer? have you tried sir?
I did it on my Behringer CS100 compressor sustainer. I'm not sure...perhaps I was uncreative at the time, but the way I did it was to lift the output jack and insert it there. It works a a proof of concept, but in actual use, it's not advisable. Because that will mean that your signal, whether bypassed or not, will pass through the scalarizer and you will have a permanent scalarizer in your signal path.
The righter way to do it is to find an insertion point that's inside the effects circuitry that will not be in the path of the bypass route. That way, when you bypass the effect, even the scalarizer is bypassed.
i'm smelling the birth of a true bypass scalarizer stomp box.. wahehehe..
tipong lahat ng scalarizers in one stomp box.. hehe.. :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: sidlead66 on October 21, 2007, 10:10:51 AM
i bought a 2nd hand hellbabe.... di ako nagsisisi dahil nung pagkaMod ko... hanep... di ko maexplain.. ive owned a gcb95... this is so so so much better...
durability? mejo nakakatakot lang talaga... magalaw kasi yung pedal pag naka toe down...
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: demoboi on October 21, 2007, 12:26:17 PM
mga sir i found a way how to straighten the sides of the triangle.. just put strips of electrical tape both sides.. un tapos.. sir kailangan ba slim lang ang butas?.. nalakihan ko ata ung sakin.. hehehe! may clear ba na pic jan? tinanggal ko talaga ung pedal part by pulling the pin para hindi mahirap i-cut...
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: demoboi on October 21, 2007, 03:08:43 PM
:mrgreen:
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: tweenty-seven on October 23, 2007, 07:27:08 PM
possible ba ang hellbabe malagyan ng pots??
in short.. gawing crybaby dime-hell wah carbon copy?? <not sure sa name>
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on October 24, 2007, 04:03:37 AM
A little OT sir bamf, i have a morley pvw(the old one) which is one weak as sh-t wah, especially if put first in the signal chain. when put after distortion, the sweep is much better but it sucks half of my tone away.
would you recommend that i do the same mod you did with the rocker pedal "windows"?
do you think i should do like you did with the hellbabe? if i understand correctly you cut out the groove in the middle and turned the "window" into an inverse triangle, right?
or would you know of a mod for this?
I think we've done one before. I recall Anton giving me the info on how to mod morley's. It involves covering up, rather than cutting. You take some duct tape and make a "V". But it shouldnt matter much. Unless you're irritated about the abrupt sweep. Let me check if I can find the file. If I'm not mistaken, Morley themselves posted the mod.
I have a palliative for the tone suck. Inasmuch as I'd want to call it a "cure", I have to check how it fares against a true bypass or if the wah were run through a looper. It's very simple and just involves running a 6pF capacitor from the input jack to the output jack.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on October 24, 2007, 05:04:45 AM
I did it on my Behringer CS100 compressor sustainer. I'm not sure...perhaps I was uncreative at the time, but the way I did it was to lift the output jack and insert it there. It works a a proof of concept, but in actual use, it's not advisable. Because that will mean that your signal, whether bypassed or not, will pass through the scalarizer and you will have a permanent scalarizer in your signal path.
The righter way to do it is to find an insertion point that's inside the effects circuitry that will not be in the path of the bypass route. That way, when you bypass the effect, even the scalarizer is bypassed.
i'm smelling the birth of a true bypass scalarizer stomp box.. wahehehe..
tipong lahat ng scalarizers in one stomp box.. hehe.. :-D
Why it already exists, and carries a 20dB clean boost with it. The Scalar Boost
Here : (http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/3964/dsc00005vl0.jpg)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: kune_km on May 19, 2008, 01:41:09 PM
sana may time na ako para mapa-mod ko na kay sir BAMF yung hellbabe ko!!!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: kune_km on May 20, 2008, 09:31:03 AM
Yesterday, there was a forumite who was selling his modded hellbabe in the classifieds section. I asked him who modded his hellbabe.
As he replied via PM, he said that he did it himself following some instructions from other website and he also recommended Sir BAMF's instructional thread here.
Ever since I had my Hellbabe, I've always been planning to bring it to Sir BAMF for some modifications. I just dont have time due to my very busy schedule at work. So I mmediately review this thread to learn more about the modded hellbabe.
At first, the procedure seems very easy. But for a person who doesnt have talent with electronics like me :-D, maybe its too risky.... :-D
One of our trusted forumite here encouraged me to do it my self. So this morning, I gave it a try.
I devirginized my hellbabe using a cutter...
Waaaahhhllllaaaahhhh!!!!
The operation was very successful. My hellbabe finally got longer sweep.
OMG!!! The baby is now a lady!!!! :lol:
I still plan to bring this to Sir BAMF for him to add some sweeter sound. Maybe if he could put some scalarizer, if possible.
Thank you my dear forumites for creating this great thread and sharing your pointers about modding the hellbabe!!!
Most specially thank you to our Genius Forumite here, Sir BAMF!!!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on May 20, 2008, 10:45:22 AM
Hihihi Thanks so much. While I would truly love to reap the flattering compliments, the procedure did not originate from me. It wasn't even me who found it, it was radiostationexp :-D .
Glad that you made the jump to improve your Hellbabe. Just one step more and it will become a Heavenbabe :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: kune_km on May 20, 2008, 10:51:44 AM
Hihihi Thanks so much. While I would truly love to reap the flattering compliments, the procedure did not originate from me. It wasn't even me who found it, it was radiostationexp :-D .
Glad that you made the jump to improve your Hellbabe. Just one step more and it will become a Heavenbabe :-D
Yes Sir!!!
One more step to make my hellbabe sound more like HEAVENBABE!!!!
Tnx for all the advices!!!
OT: pagdinala ko yung hellbabe jan, I might also bring my tele for you to scalarize. The question is, does scalarizer reduce the humming of the single coil PUPs?
Thank you po ng Maraming Maraming Very Much!!!! :lol:
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on May 20, 2008, 10:55:34 AM
One more step to make my hellbabe sound more like HEAVENBABE!!!!
Tnx for all the advices!!!
OT: pagdinala ko yung hellbabe jan, I might also bring my tele for you to scalarize. The question is, does scalarizer reduce the humming of the single coil PUPs?
Thank you po ng Maraming Maraming Very Much!!!! :lol:
It has happened before that the scalarizer reduces hum and even makes the signal louder and stronger. I won't guarantee that it will happen each and every time though. I can PM you the names of certain forumers on whose guitars it has happened though.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: kune_km on May 20, 2008, 11:25:34 AM
It has happened before that the scalarizer reduces hum and even makes the signal louder and stronger. I won't guarantee that it will happen each and every time though. I can PM you the names of certain forumers on whose guitars it has happened though.
Ayos!!!
Maraming Thank You Po Ulit!!!!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: Janmyung on September 06, 2008, 10:51:09 AM
I got an unmodded hellbabe, tried to mod it but don't hear much difference. Post ko pics nung mod, di ko alam kung tama e. Dun sa 2nd picture, me pa triangle pa sa taas, necessary ba yun? Kung di sya triangle me effect ba?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: markv on September 06, 2008, 10:58:04 AM
I got an unmodded hellbabe, tried to mod it but don't hear much difference. Post ko pics nung mod, di ko alam kung tama e. Dun sa 2nd picture, me pa triangle pa sa taas, necessary ba yun? Kung di sya triangle me effect ba?
hellbabe ko hiniwa ko lng pababa.. bka kulang pa hiwa mo. Dapat tlaga imod.. panget ang sweep ng stock. :)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: kune_km on September 06, 2008, 11:02:44 AM
I got an unmodded hellbabe, tried to mod it but don't hear much difference. Post ko pics nung mod, di ko alam kung tama e. Dun sa 2nd picture, me pa triangle pa sa taas, necessary ba yun? Kung di sya triangle me effect ba?
the result of divirginizing your hellbabe will have a quicker engage. therefore, if you step into it and has a quicker engage, you'll feel the longer sweep. that's why, we tend to cut the infrared hole.
if you did it correctly, you'll appreciate the huge difference...
hellbabe ko hiniwa ko lng pababa.. bka kulang pa hiwa mo. Dapat tlaga imod.. panget ang sweep ng stock. :)
take it from markv!!! another satisfied user of his modded hellbabe!!!!
nice one mark!!!
:lol:
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: Janmyung on November 05, 2008, 12:44:27 PM
Hello mga sir!
Modded my hellbabe, nag improve ang sweep pero kung lalagay ko sya sa harap ng dirt e parang mahina ang sweep. Pag sa pagkatapos ng dirt e pag gagamitin ko na e lumalakas ang volume, pero mas ayos ang sweep/wah nya. Kaso ayaw ko ganun setup. Pano ba setup nyo?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: cacophony on November 05, 2008, 03:52:02 PM
interesting :-o
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: kune_km on November 05, 2008, 04:25:24 PM
Modded my hellbabe, nag improve ang sweep pero kung lalagay ko sya sa harap ng dirt e parang mahina ang sweep. Pag sa pagkatapos ng dirt e pag gagamitin ko na e lumalakas ang volume, pero mas ayos ang sweep/wah nya. Kaso ayaw ko ganun setup. Pano ba setup nyo?
@ierofan Nakuha ko na yung cursed na OD100. I don't feel cursed, I feel blessed hehehe.
still dont know why he called it cursed tho. :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: tuligman on May 14, 2009, 09:20:33 AM
sir san po loc nyo..... ayoko kasing mag dunung dunungan d2 sa hellbabe ko baka anong magyari kasi.... gusto ko sana kung kaya ung vox847 sana ganun kahaba ung sweep chka may sweet tone sa dulo
p.s. magkano pagawa sa inyo sir>>>
salamat
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on May 19, 2009, 01:24:50 AM
sir san po loc nyo..... ayoko kasing mag dunung dunungan d2 sa hellbabe ko baka anong magyari kasi.... gusto ko sana kung kaya ung vox847 sana ganun kahaba ung sweep chka may sweet tone sa dulo
p.s. magkano pagawa sa inyo sir>>>
salamat
Nasa page 1 ata. But since winston is now going out of vogue, 2 packs of Fortune reds na lang :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: ierofan on July 24, 2009, 10:23:21 PM
hindi ko mavisualize, ayaw ko rin magdunung dunungan. :lol: :lol: pano kaya to.
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: 3k.dc on July 24, 2009, 11:42:02 PM
Totoo ba to? 2 pack of cigar will do as a service charge?
Sir san po location niyo?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on July 25, 2009, 09:02:14 AM
Sige totoo pa din !
Tejeron area sta ana manila :-D
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: 3k.dc on July 25, 2009, 11:41:34 PM
uy sir magkalapit lng pala tau eh dito lng ako sa malapit sa Villamor, san ka banda sa Tejeron?
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on July 26, 2009, 11:51:04 AM
I tried this, but I think I failed..just gave it to a friend instead..
I suggest getting a True Blue dunlop wah..world apart sa sweep sound and feel...di ka na babalik sa behringers..
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: changedmynametojimi on April 17, 2014, 08:55:02 PM
night of the living thread...
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: yoburgs on April 20, 2014, 09:43:07 PM
:-( Sayang naman un. Anyway ayus lang un, we have our own tastes tlga... heres a clip of me toying around with my gear <
>
Actually the HB01 was just repaired by MARKALVINTAN @ OLX.COM - a good friend whose expertise is pedal repairs [since it is accidentally plugged to an 11VOLT adaptor] then i modded it n lang. CHEERS!
Title: Re: Behringer Hellbabe- short review and free modification instructions
Post by: BAMF on July 27, 2018, 01:20:04 AM
Was looking for a schematic for Hellbabe on google, lumitaw ulit ito search. Napadaan lang :-D