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Offline mants

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Behringer ep4000 power amps
« on: December 09, 2011, 09:36:47 PM »
mga sir, ano po ang masasabi nyo  sa amps na ito  ..ok kaya ito,,   its 25,000 PHP,,,, and the specs is 750 watts/ch in 8 ohms, 1400 watts/ch. in 4 ohms, 2000 watts/ch. 2 ohms , and 4000 watts in 4 ohms bridge.....                                                               
« Last Edit: December 09, 2011, 09:39:30 PM by mants »

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2011, 03:35:38 AM »
Got  2 of the very the same model EP2500 which is an EP4000 rebadge and maybe with slightly higher power ....I think Behringer rated them sa peak power nila.....I'm sure na they're only about 520 watts/c or there about maybe less in 8 ohms...(QSC RMX 2050 knock off).

Depende sa gagamitan mo Pre, maraming Pro's and Con's if your only reading about them.

I would'nt recommend them for sub duties especially for a long period of time katulad sa ginagamitan sa atin...I know I use this amps on my 4 reflex sub driving 15" Eminence Kappas at 8 ohms each...ok lang sila but then again dito sa England most of the venues o hall here hindi ka naman pwede mag hataw talaga kaya ok lang.

They will clip early if push hard.





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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2011, 03:45:52 AM »
B0z Mants bag0 kami nagtry ng Cr0wn Lps2500, Behringer Ep2500 anG kinakabiT namin sa installati0ns.  Wala pa kaming naginG sira at 0k anG 0utput nit0.  :)

Per0 sa Ep4000 pweDe din panG sub per0 sa mga 600 wattS lang na 15 0r 18inches sa tingiN k0.

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2011, 07:10:41 AM »
Got  2 of the very the same model EP2500 which is an EP4000 rebadge and maybe with slightly higher power ....I think Behringer rated them sa peak power nila.....I'm sure na they're only about 520 watts/c or there about maybe less in 8 ohms...(QSC RMX 2050 knock off).

Depende sa gagamitan mo Pre, maraming Pro's and Con's if your only reading about them.

I would'nt recommend them for sub duties especially for a long period of time katulad sa ginagamitan sa atin...I know I use this amps on my 4 reflex sub driving 15" Eminence Kappas at 8 ohms each...ok lang sila but then again dito sa England most of the venues o hall here hindi ka naman pwede mag hataw talaga kaya ok lang.

They will clip early if push hard.
tnks sir.. rebadge lang pala ito..
B0z Mants bag0 kami nagtry ng Cr0wn Lps2500, Behringer Ep2500 anG kinakabiT namin sa installati0ns.  Wala pa kaming naginG sira at 0k anG 0utput nit0.  :)

Per0 sa Ep4000 pweDe din panG sub per0 sa mga 600 wattS lang na 15 0r 18inches sa tingiN k0.
tnks boz,,mukhang maganda lang ito na gagamitin pang mid ..

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2011, 09:33:01 AM »
...Yung galing kami sa MB naidemo samin ang EP4000...pinang-drive sa MB378 dual12...malinis tumunog at na-compare namin sa QSC RMX 2450 at Crown LPS2500 pero mas malakas pa din ang EP4000...sa bass naman, pinang-drive sa dual 18 manifold subs at clamshell subs...ok din just about right ang lakas... :wink:


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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2011, 06:25:10 PM »
...Yung galing kami sa MB naidemo samin ang EP4000...pinang-drive sa MB378 dual12...malinis tumunog at na-compare namin sa QSC RMX 2450 at Crown LPS2500 pero mas malakas pa din ang EP4000...sa bass naman, pinang-drive sa dual 18 manifold subs at clamshell subs...ok din just about right ang lakas... :wink:
ayos kung ganon sir,,,baka ok nga ito pang drive sa dual mid na ang speaker n gamit ay 300 or 500 watts rms..kahit made in china lang at least ito dumaan naman sa QC ng behringer  , mas angat kaysa mga china brands ,,,
« Last Edit: December 11, 2011, 03:51:54 AM by mants »

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2011, 11:21:49 PM »
...Yung galing kami sa MB naidemo samin ang EP4000...pinang-drive sa MB378 dual12...malinis tumunog at na-compare namin sa QSC RMX 2450 at Crown LPS2500 pero mas malakas pa din ang EP4000...sa bass naman, pinang-drive sa dual 18 manifold subs at clamshell subs...ok din just about right ang lakas... :wink:

the mb378 is stock loaded with dual c12 500mb 12" 500 watts wired at parallel.  that gives you 1000 watts at 4 ohms.  both the qsc rmx2450 and crown lps2500 are rated at 750 and 725 watts at 4 ohms only.  although at fairly modest sound levels, these amps may work, the downside is - they cannot provide the needed 'headroom'. 

this behringer ep4000 may be the good amp since it's rated at 1400 watts at 4 ohms.  i too was using the behringer ep2500, which is made popular by cloning the qsc rmx2450.  maganda ang performance and in fact some of them are still running on many of my installs since 2006.  now i shifted to the crown lps2500 simply because it's cheaper than the ep2500.  but the innards of the ep2500 are very decent.  i will be checking this ep4000.  at 25thou, pwede na!
« Last Edit: December 10, 2011, 11:39:53 PM by Jef2 »

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2011, 04:11:15 AM »
from Behringer manual.

RMS @1% THD (sine wave),  both channels driven

EP4000
  8ohm p/c   550W
  4ohm p/c   950W
  2ohm p/c   1250W

Bridge mode
  8ohm    1750W
  4ohm    2400W

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2011, 07:59:31 AM »
...Bossing Ermita ito na yata ang bagong specs ng EP4000 sabi din sa manual...pinakita din ng MB samin yan pero yung actual testing namin vs. QSC RMX2450 at Crown LPS2500, obvious ang lakas ng EP4000 sa dalawang models...kahit ipangdrive sa subs mas mabigat ang tunog ng EP4000...,, :wink:


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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2011, 07:21:36 PM »
...Bossing Ermita ito na yata ang bagong specs ng EP4000 sabi din sa manual...pinakita din ng MB samin yan pero yung actual testing namin vs. QSC RMX2450 at Crown LPS2500, obvious ang lakas ng EP4000 sa dalawang models...kahit ipangdrive sa subs mas mabigat ang tunog ng EP4000...,, :wink:


Hi, thanks Boss Glennox,  but if you look at the upper part it says Peak Power for both channels driven... :wink: (Sorry, but I always look at the amps and drivers at there rated power not there peak) :)
Have read loads of positive comments on the said amps and some negatives..But so far the one I've got EP2500 hasnt gave any real problems apart from the other one I bought secondhand which start to clip and get hot on one side at one ocassion while testing at home running only some 15" tops (probably a problem before I bought it) :-( but its been good after that running some 15" bass. A lot of guys here in England prefer the Berry EP over the QSC 2450 not only they are cheaper but QSC tends to have more problem than the Berry. :-o

Another one to consider is the Peavey PV2600 or KAM KXR2000 but maybe slightly more on the budget.

If the Berry EP amp or other amps use correctly  cant see any reason why it should'nt work, but as bosing Jef2 said its better to give your amp some extra "headroom".

Got to remember also when the amp/s are being demo'ed you probably demo it at a moderate level or for a short period of time at full power...hataw lang ng sandali kasi its probably indoor at tsaka malakas na masyado sa loob.  Got to think also na kung bibilhin isipin yung gagamitan mo talaga if the amp is capable of driving the driver/s, will it sustain using for a longer period of time I dont know mostly sigurado sa atin minimum of 6 hours? week in week out o even day in day out... But if the warranty is good much better, at least dyan sa Pinas pag nasira medyo madali makapagawa  basta available lang ang parts...Dito sa abroad pag nasira you most likely to get a new one rather than getting it fix :-( masyadong mahal engineer dito :-o

Must admit also na nasisira lang ang equipment due to improper use or use it mostly "way over" there rated limits(done it :-D) o kaya lack of knowledge in the first place kasi sigurado hindi binasa ang Manual (also done it) :-)....(but even the most regarded brands get problems too, mas worst pa nga  kasi mas mahal mag pagawa  :-D)
Common problem also, If the amp start to clip constantly mostly people ignore them but should be dealt with as soon as possible.

Sorry Guys, not saying nor trying to hit anyone at all pero karamihan kasi ito ang nangyayari at nakikita ko..This is probably why they just let it happen coz' in the first place they dont own the equipment so they dont really care :-D.




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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2011, 10:12:25 PM »
Hi, thanks Boss Glennox,  but if you look at the upper part it says Peak Power for both channels driven... :wink: (Sorry, but I always look at the amps and drivers at there rated power not there peak) :)
Have read loads of positive comments on the said amps and some negatives..But so far the one I've got EP2500 hasnt gave any real problems apart from the other one I bought secondhand which start to clip and get hot on one side at one ocassion while testing at home running only some 15" tops (probably a problem before I bought it) :-( but its been good after that running some 15" bass. A lot of guys here in England prefer the Berry EP over the QSC 2450 not only they are cheaper but QSC tends to have more problem than the Berry. :-o

Another one to consider is the Peavey PV2600 or KAM KXR2000 but maybe slightly more on the budget.

If the Berry EP amp or other amps use correctly  cant see any reason why it should'nt work, but as bosing Jef2 said its better to give your amp some extra "headroom".

Got to remember also when the amp/s are being demo'ed you probably demo it at a moderate level or for a short period of time at full power...hataw lang ng sandali kasi its probably indoor at tsaka malakas na masyado sa loob.  Got to think also na kung bibilhin isipin yung gagamitan mo talaga if the amp is capable of driving the driver/s, will it sustain using for a longer period of time I dont know mostly sigurado sa atin minimum of 6 hours? week in week out o even day in day out... But if the warranty is good much better, at least dyan sa Pinas pag nasira medyo madali makapagawa  basta available lang ang parts...Dito sa abroad pag nasira you most likely to get a new one rather than getting it fix :-( masyadong mahal engineer dito :-o

Must admit also na nasisira lang ang equipment due to improper use or use it mostly "way over" there rated limits(done it :-D) o kaya lack of knowledge in the first place kasi sigurado hindi binasa ang Manual (also done it) :-)....(but even the most regarded brands get problems too, mas worst pa nga  kasi mas mahal mag pagawa  :-D)
Common problem also, If the amp start to clip constantly mostly people ignore them but should be dealt with as soon as possible.

Sorry Guys, not saying nor trying to hit anyone at all pero karamihan kasi ito ang nangyayari at nakikita ko..This is probably why they just let it happen coz' in the first place they dont own the equipment so they dont really care :-D.

...Bossing tama ka sa observations mo...kwento din sa MB na naimpress din sila sa EP4000...pero sa una medyo nalito din sila sa specs pero at least on actual demo at comparison, madidinig mo talaga ang difference sa output vs the QSC RMX2450 at Crown LPS2500...sa mga nakabili na daw sa kanila,  pinag-iipunan na nila ang next purchase ng EP4000...,, :wink:

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2011, 08:40:57 AM »
GaS.... :-D

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2011, 10:39:35 AM »
sa tingin nyo ba mas ok na ito na lang ang bilin kesa sa mga raon amps/china amps?
napapaisip po kasi ako kung LiveFET2000 or SoundQuest ang bibilin ko, hanggang sa naalala ko na naman ang Behri dahil sa thread na to..
just wanna know why/why not LiveFet or SoundQuest.. ano yung merong mas mabigat na tunog.
sana po meron makatulong... 4pc. 600w 18" speaker lang po ang gagamitan...
maraming salamat..

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2011, 12:03:00 PM »
ep4000  in 4 ohms bridge sino na po nka pag try,,,,4000 watts in 4 ohms bridge  :razz:

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2011, 12:05:01 PM »
sa tingin nyo ba mas ok na ito na lang ang bilin kesa sa mga raon amps/china amps?
napapaisip po kasi ako kung LiveFET2000 or SoundQuest ang bibilin ko, hanggang sa naalala ko na naman ang Behri dahil sa thread na to..
just wanna know why/why not LiveFet or SoundQuest.. ano yung merong mas mabigat na tunog.
sana po meron makatulong... 4pc. 600w 18" speaker lang po ang gagamitan...
maraming salamat..

B0z mas maiGi pakinggan m0 yan muNa.  Sa J0int Venture mer0n naman silanG dem0 r00m.  :)

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #15 on: December 14, 2011, 12:34:54 PM »
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B0z mas maiGi pakinggan m0 yan muNa.  Sa J0int Venture mer0n naman silanG dem0 r00m. 

boss maaraming salamat ah!
meron po ba kayo update kung saan makukuha yang EP4000 ng 25K? or baka meron pa mas mababa...
hindi pa kasi reply yung natanungan ko jan sa raon e..
e kailangan ko na before saturday..
maraming salamat!

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2011, 10:19:35 AM »
ep4000  in 4 ohms bridge sino na po nka pag try,,,,4000 watts in 4 ohms bridge  :razz:

better to test it first at 8 ohms bridge.

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2011, 07:19:40 PM »
Nabasa ko itong thread a few days ago and I told my friend who has an old Behri EP2500 to compare it with my Qsc Rmx 2450.  To my surprise,  the EP2500 sounds similar with my Rmx 2450.  Totoo pala na it's a perfect clone.  Try ko din itong EP4000 soon.  The price is irresistable.  :-D :-D

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2011, 08:07:05 PM »
Nabasa ko itong thread a few days ago and I told my friend who has an old Behri EP2500 to compare it with my Qsc Rmx 2450.  To my surprise,  the EP2500 sounds similar with my Rmx 2450.  Totoo pala na it's a perfect clone.  Try ko din itong EP4000 soon.  The price is irresistable.  :-D :-D
sir anong  speaker  ang ginamit nyo noong pinag compare nyo yong RMX2450 at EP2500 tnks, :wink:

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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2011, 11:19:29 PM »
@Mants

Mids on DAS ST112  8-) 8-)

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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2011, 05:26:21 AM »
better to test it first at 8 ohms bridge.

did use my EP2500 sa 8 ohms bridge before sa reflex na box ko running  Eminence Kappa Pro-15LFA (600 watts) and did well ...plenty more power kung kailangan e push but driver cant take anymore....so will be easy enough sa 4000 kasi mas malakas power nito...Kung e run nang 4 ohms bridge e make sure lang na tingnan o monitor palagi ang ilaw o kaya kung umiinit ang amp. :wave:

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« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2011, 08:17:28 AM »
@Mants

Mids on DAS ST112  8-) 8-)
ok sir kung ganon at least meron n tayong choice if we cannot afford the QSC rmx2450,,                                     
did use my EP2500 sa 8 ohms bridge before sa reflex na box ko running  Eminence Kappa Pro-15LFA (600 watts) and did well ...plenty more power kung kailangan e push but driver cant take anymore....so will be easy enough sa 4000 kasi mas malakas power nito...Kung e run nang 4 ohms bridge e make sure lang na tingnan o monitor palagi ang ilaw o kaya kung umiinit ang amp. :wave:

mas maganda sana kung makapag handle ito ng 4 ohms bridge in long time of use,, kc kung sa 8 ohms bridge lang sya pwede eh di  mag crown lps2500 nlang in 8 ohms bridge, tested na at mas mura pa compare sa ep4000,, but for dual midtop loaded ng 500wtts rms n speaker maybe ep4000 is a good choice if budget is limited.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2011, 09:10:10 AM by mants »

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« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2011, 08:59:24 AM »
ok sir kung ganon at least meron n tayong choice if we cannot afford the QSC rmx2450,,                                     

Binabasa ko yung mga reviews of the Behri EP2500 and EP4000 from different sites.  They both have very good reviews.  Most of the owners like the sound output and durability factor.

Correct ka sir the QSCs are more expensive than the Behris.  Nice you mentioned the EP4000.  Very good reference for all of us here in PhilMusic.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2011, 09:44:01 AM »
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Re: Behringer ep4000 power amps
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2011, 10:24:34 PM »
Pambihira! Napapaisip na naman ako ng Behringers imbes na nilalayo ko na sisp ko sa kanila... Pambihira! But thanks guys! :)