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Offline mikki_blinkme

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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2011, 01:29:24 PM »
-what if mag release ka ng album? gusto mo ba sa recto yun bibilhin? then walang babalik seu :) super simple as that   :-D

yeah oks yun! it feels so good na pinirata cd namin. as a band. Kung sakop kami ng isang major label yung recording company ang mawawalan. daming indie bands na nakapagproduce ng album without the help of those big guns kahit alam nilang may possibilties na mapirata ito. minsan nga no royalty pa sa majors.

pero sige kanya kanya talagang opinion yan. im just saying this as an lower-middle class citizen sa Pinas. Labyu Bro!  :lol: Peace tyo mga bro a.

Hindi valid example mo bro kasi after mo ma-install ang legit na Windows 7 sa PC mo, di na ulit magagamit yung registration key sa ibang PC. That's the only right you have -- to install it to one PC be it yours or not UNLESS you paid for 3 licenses in that one DVD installer (aka volume licensing pero at 7k sa example mo siguradong 1 license lang yan).

Basically the "rights" you're pertaining to is LIMITED and does not include to share it for FREE. Ang PIRATED is pag pinahiram mo installer mo at ni-crack ng friend mo (coz that's the only way he can install it sa PC nya).

No phun intended. No offense meant.

its ok sir. we have our own opinions e. yung comment ko is base lang sa isang pagiging LOWER-MIDDLE CLASS. Basta for me kaya nga SHARING ang tawag kasi FREE. PIRACY is Stealing. Yes. Para sakin PIRATA pag binenta mo ito para kumita ka.

No phun intended sir. Naiintindihan ko rin Point nyo. Peace. Labyu sir!  :evil: Antayin natin iba yung mga inputs nila about the so called "Piracy".

 
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2011, 01:38:23 PM »
I do totally understand where you're coming from but the argument that nobody will make software anymore doesn't really hold true. It's much like how artists try to "scare" the public how people who get pirated won't make music anymore or something. At the end of the day, there are people who make music just because they love playing and making music. Much the same with programmers who make programs for the love of it (like those who release free programs that they make for the heck of it and some are even better than those for sale!).

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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2011, 03:07:26 AM »
yeah oks yun! it feels so good na pinirata cd namin. as a band. Kung sakop kami ng isang major label yung recording company ang mawawalan. daming indie bands na nakapagproduce ng album without the help of those big guns kahit alam nilang may possibilties na mapirata ito. minsan nga no royalty pa sa majors.

pero sige kanya kanya talagang opinion yan. im just saying this as an lower-middle class citizen sa Pinas. Labyu Bro!  :lol: Peace tyo mga bro a.

its ok sir. we have our own opinions e. yung comment ko is base lang sa isang pagiging LOWER-MIDDLE CLASS. Basta for me kaya nga SHARING ang tawag kasi FREE. PIRACY is Stealing. Yes. Para sakin PIRATA pag binenta mo ito para kumita ka.

No phun intended sir. Naiintindihan ko rin Point nyo. Peace. Labyu sir!  :evil: Antayin natin iba yung mga inputs nila about the so called "Piracy".

You don’t make sense. I wasn’t sharing my opinion; I was telling you the implementing laws on it.

You don’t need “opinions” to understand piracy. There’s a defined and imposed anti-piracy law you can read. Kahit ikaw pa ang pinakamayaman o pinakamahirap walang pinipili ang batas.

Lastly, when you purchase a software you DO NOT have the freedom to JUST SHARE it. License pinag-uusapan dito. Pag bumili ka ng baril binabayaran mo din license tama? At may requirements bago ka bigyan ng license. Ngayon di mo pwede ipahiram sa kaibigan mo ang baril kasi pag nakapatay kaibigan mo pati ikaw dawit kasi baril mo yun at wala syang right at license para sa baril na yun. At di mo pwedeng i-rason na LOWER MIDDLE CLASS lang kaibigan mo at walang pambili ng baril kaya ni-SHARE mo na lang.

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2011, 03:38:36 AM »
You don’t make sense. I wasn’t sharing my opinion; I was telling you the implementing laws on it.

You don’t need “opinions” to understand piracy. There’s a defined and imposed anti-piracy law you can read. Kahit ikaw pa ang pinakamayaman o pinakamahirap walang pinipili ang batas.

Lastly, when you purchase a software you DO NOT have the freedom to JUST SHARE it. License pinag-uusapan dito. Pag bumili ka ng baril binabayaran mo din license tama? At may requirements bago ka bigyan ng license. Ngayon di mo pwede ipahiram sa kaibigan mo ang baril kasi pag nakapatay kaibigan mo pati ikaw dawit kasi baril mo yun at wala syang right at license para sa baril na yun. At di mo pwedeng i-rason na LOWER MIDDLE CLASS lang kaibigan mo at walang pambili ng baril kaya ni-SHARE mo na lang.


+1 I liked your explanation  :-D

Piracy "sharing" has no connection with classes and it doesn't make it valid if someone's on the lower end of the scale.

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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2011, 04:09:53 AM »
Kung di mo sinabi di ko napansin. hehe! Di ko pa kilala PM nung ni-post to. Almost half a decade old na pala...  :-D

hehe oo pinangunahan ko na bago mang asar yung ibang PM members na nagresurrect tayo ng old thread hehe :-D


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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2011, 10:51:10 AM »
tama kayo sir ang batas ay batas... ganun na lang...  :-D so ngayon pa lang dapat shut down na nila ang P2Ps ASAP. Go.  :lol:

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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2011, 12:16:35 PM »
tama kayo sir ang batas ay batas... ganun na lang...  :-D so ngayon pa lang dapat shut down na nila ang P2Ps ASAP. Go.  :lol:
Sorry wrong again. There's a certain extent bago maging illegal ang P2P transactions. For example, may biniling sapatos sayo yung friend kaso di kasya sayo so ibebenta mo sya ngayon. Di pa illegal yun.

Ayan, aside from anti-piracy laws, dagdag mo na din sa research pertinent laws on illegal businesses tsaka anti-smuggling. :)

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2011, 01:58:52 PM »
tama kayo sir ang batas ay batas... ganun na lang...  :-D so ngayon pa lang dapat shut down na nila ang P2Ps ASAP. Go.  :lol:

ie shutdown mo nga ang P2P may direct download naman na libre pano mo macocontrol ang net aber. Para maging legal, dapat lahat na tao honest pag di sa kanya dapat hindi nya nanakawin, pero never na mangyari yon, nong panahon nga ng biblical andyan na si hudas ie.  :lol:

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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2011, 02:43:55 PM »
ie shutdown mo nga ang P2P may direct download naman na libre pano mo macocontrol ang net aber. Para maging legal, dapat lahat na tao honest pag di sa kanya dapat hindi nya nanakawin, pero never na mangyari yon, nong panahon nga ng biblical andyan na si hudas ie.  :lol:
P2P pala on the www world I thought P2P in marketing (person to person). Well, same rules apply at tama ka bro. :)

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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2011, 02:53:13 PM »
ang ibang Schools gumagamit ng pirated software LOLZ :lol:

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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2011, 03:43:52 PM »
ang ibang Schools gumagamit ng pirated software LOLZ :lol:

ang ibang? or karamihan?  :-D how about small time internet shops? any idea?  :lol: about households?  :evil:

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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2011, 03:46:23 PM »
ang ibang? or karamihan?  :-D how about small time internet shops? any idea?  :lol: about households?  :evil:

tama.

kung ipapakulong ang lahat na gumagamit ng pirated software 80 percent ng tao sa pilipinas na gumagamit ng software makukulong.  :lol:

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« Reply #37 on: January 09, 2011, 11:31:37 AM »
tama.

kung ipapakulong ang lahat na gumagamit ng pirated software 80 percent ng tao sa pilipinas na gumagamit ng software makukulong.  :lol:
Para masaya, basa na... http://www.papt.org.ph/uploads/file/RA8293%20IP%20Code.pdf

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« Reply #38 on: January 09, 2011, 11:36:11 AM »
 :evil: e di marami ding makukulong na pulis   :-D

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« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2011, 11:47:06 AM »
:evil: e di marami ding makukulong na pulis   :-D

tama...

kasi number 1 na violator ay pulis..bato bato sa langit ang tamaan ay wag magalit. excuse me sir.. :wink:

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« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2011, 12:09:51 PM »
tama...

kasi number 1 na violator ay pulis..bato bato sa langit ang tamaan ay wag magalit. excuse me sir.. :wink:

e kung makukulong mga pulis e sino na ang huhuli sa mga pirata at mga fans nito?  :evil:

kung binaba lang ang originals lets say windows 7 from richie rich 5k down to 500php kahit yung pirata e 100php or less pa dun na ako sa orig. grabe naman kasing presyo yan. yung dapat napunta na lang sa basic needs sa bahay napunta pa sa OS lang.

note: as of now orig ang w7 ko kasi di pa nagloloko os namin sa awa ng Diyos kasi since pagbili ko ng laptop meron ng w7. at pag nagcrash ito.... hmhmmm.... ano kaya bibilhin ko? orig o pirated?  :lol:

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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2011, 12:45:47 PM »
note: as of now orig ang w7 ko kasi di pa nagloloko os namin sa awa ng Diyos kasi since pagbili ko ng laptop meron ng w7. at pag nagcrash ito.... hmhmmm.... ano kaya bibilhin ko? orig o pirated?  :lol:

Pag nag-crash you can re-install and use the same registration key. Kung walang kasamang registration key nung binili mo (pre-installed) you can go to the store from where you bought it and ask for re-installation. It should be for free because you already bought that license.

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« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2011, 12:56:31 PM »

note: as of now orig ang w7 ko kasi di pa nagloloko os namin sa awa ng Diyos kasi since pagbili ko ng laptop meron ng w7. at pag nagcrash ito.... hmhmmm.... ano kaya bibilhin ko? orig o pirated?  :lol:

sana kinuha mo ang original W7 installer ng laptop mo which is sayo talaga yon. kasama sa presyo ng rig mo ng binili mo sya then may naka dikit na cd key at the back of your laptop which is gagamitin mo pag nag reformat ka ng laptop mo kung mag bugdown man ang OS mo.

when i bought my lappy at acer it has an license  windows 7 cd installer and an accesories in it and it has a windows licence sticker too.

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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2011, 01:52:37 PM »
Pag nag-crash you can re-install and use the same registration key. Kung walang kasamang registration key nung binili mo (pre-installed) you can go to the store from where you bought it and ask for re-installation. It should be for free because you already bought that license.
very nice explanations and i agree with everything you posted. too bad mukhang di ka sineseryoso ng sinasagot mo.

piracy is wrong no matter which angle you look from. no amount of people committing it can make it right. if a person is fine with his or her intellectual property being pirated, that's his or her prerogative. but it still doesn't make things right. otherwise, all these download and file sharing sites (p2p or otherwise) would openly admit to it without fear of legal or in some cases, even moral impunity. even the pirate bay needs to be clever to deal with the issue and with the safety net incidentally provided by Swedish copyright laws. but behind the defiant bravado, they know full well that it would be a different story if torrent sites such as theirs actually have pirated software stored in in-house servers available for download to their users.

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« Reply #44 on: January 09, 2011, 02:20:06 PM »
yes pre-installed. galing dubai. punta akong dubai pag pag nag crash.   8-) I fought the law and the law won. thats it. lagingtama ang law. oks.

kungcan afford ng orig why not? pag can't afford tiis na lang or sa cheaper counterpart. Ganito na lang. Hulihin ang may mastermind ng mga piracy.

Tnx guys. Hope walang samaan ng loob. I respect your comments. In the end e kanya kanyang opinion. Sa point ko lang "LAW is not always right" pansin ko may pinapanigan ang batas.  8-) Movement against piracy is GOOD. But kelangan din sanang madinig ng SOFTWARE Companies at mga mambabatas na mag implement ng batas na pababain naman yung presyo ng mga softwares like windows kasi OS yan e tsaka standards yan ng karamihan for compatibilty.

Guys. Its really good na narinig ko comments nyo.
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« Reply #45 on: January 09, 2011, 11:38:15 PM »

Example:
Bumili ako ng WINDOWS 7 Original worth 7k kunwari. May barkada akong kapos ang pera para maglabas ng 7k para lang mag ka OS ang kanyang PC. So binurn ko sya ng COPY. E bumili na ako ng WINDOWS 7 so i have the rights I am now the owner of that CD/DVD and I have the rights to Share it for FREE. Ang PIRATED is Gumawa ako Copy for MASS Production at Binenta ko ito.


Uhh. No. Read the EULA that pops out everytime you install a copy of Windows.
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« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2011, 10:31:07 AM »
Uhh. No. Read the EULA that pops out everytime you install a copy of Windows.

ok sir tnx. kaso pre-installed e. pag may mahihiraman akong original w7 babasahin ko yan.  8-)

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« Reply #47 on: January 11, 2011, 12:47:45 PM »
Naalala ko lang yung comment ng isang editor in chief ng isang tabloid.  Binili niya yung FHM magazine so he has rights on the pictures on the magazine.  He posted those pictures on his tabloid.  Nakakatawa.

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« Reply #48 on: January 11, 2011, 01:47:06 PM »
^ o see? nagbigay tawa pa sayo.  :lol: ano ginawang aksyon ng FHM laban sa tabloid na yun? Wala namang mawawala sa FHM e. As if namang bumagsak sales ng FHM dahil dun.  :lol:

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« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2011, 02:13:01 PM »
ano ginawang aksyon ng FHM laban sa tabloid na yun? Wala namang mawawala sa FHM e. As if namang bumagsak sales ng FHM dahil dun.  :lol:

Not sales, but protection of copyright. Reprints require permission from the original owner or else the tabloid is liable for violation of copyright laws and can be sued outright esp. if it can be proven that the tabloid's sales increased as a direct result of the FHM pics.

ok sir tnx. kaso pre-installed e. pag may mahihiraman akong original w7 babasahin ko yan.  8-)

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