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[quiet]

Sir, try to consider YAMAHA Club V Series (for FOH / Monitor) may exclusive discounts po @ Yupangco Electronics Corporation until April 30, 2010.

[SAITOHAJIME]

Guys, pasingit na rin ako dito... ano sa 2 ang mas OK na option para ~50K price range?. Use? Occasional small band gigs, for Rental na rin kung may offer pero for most of the time naka fix sa bahay.

#1> 1pair JBL-JRX115 + Crown LPS2500

#2> 1pair Mackie THUMP (TH-15)

Im leaning towards the JBL speakers since they are made of MDF which some say "sounds better" than molded plastics. Plus makakamura ako sa upgrade options, +35K lang ang option#1 for additional speakers since ready na at capable ang amp whereas yun #2 +50K ulit.

Pero baka meron kayong ibang opinions, paki-share na lang.

[stoney73]

Guys, pasingit na rin ako dito... ano sa 2 ang mas OK na option para ~50K price range?. Use? Occational small band gigs, for Rental na rin kung may offer pero for most of the time naka fix sa bahay.

#1> 1pair JBL-JRX115 + Crown LPS2500

#2> 1pair Mackie THUMP (TH-15)

Im leaning towards the JBL speakers since they are made of MDF which some say "sounds better" than molded plastics. Plus makakamura ako sa upgrade options, +35K lang ang option#1 for additional speakers since ready na at capable ang amp whereas yun #2 +50K ulit.

Pero baka meron kayong ibang opinions, paki-share na lang.

Both are good choices.  I tried the JRX series before and they sounded good.  For the Mackie Thumps,  the prices are tempting    and I'm sure these will sound good too since they are Mackie.

[sikyo]

@ SAITOHAJIME,

heard both models, sir, IMHO, both are good but better ang sound ng Mackie Thump though the two are the entry-level ng respective brands nila. you may want to compare data sheets as well and make projections on max SPL if that will be an issue. the Thump's a 15 incher but the website says its ampli's not as powerful as others of the same dimension. but between the two, +1 on Mackie Thump.




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[SAITOHAJIME]

@ SAITOHAJIME,

heard both models, sir, IMHO, both are good but better ang sound ng Mackie Thump though the two are the entry-level ng respective brands nila. you may want to compare data sheets as well and make projections on max SPL if that will be an issue. the Thump's a 15 incher but the website says its ampli's not as powerful as others of the same dimension. but between the two, +1 on Mackie Thump.




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Thanks Boss Sikyo, Ive already compared the numbers.

Freq Response: JBL JRX115 > 50Hz - 12.5KHz   Mackie THUMP > 40Hz - 20KHz
SPL              : JBL JRX115 > 128db                Mackie THUMP > 113db
Sensitivity     : JBL JRX115 > 98db                  Mackie THUMP > 94db

JBL's JRX115 somehow have better overall figures, except for the the THUMP's freq. response.Then again i dont know how would this translate to real world situations. There's also the issue of durability since hindi biro ang investment na ito. Just trying to make most of my money hehehe.

Sa mga nagreply at sa mga additional inputs, salamat.

[quiet]

Sir, try nyo po ung YAMAHA Club V Series S115V or C115V

Type = 2-way bass-reflex
Frequency range (-10dB) = 55Hz-16kHz
Nominal coverage = 90Hx40V
Nominal impedance = 8Ω
Power rating: NOISE = 250W
                   PGM = 500W
                   MAX = 1000W
sensitivity (1W,1m) = 99dB SPL
Component: LF = 15" cone
                 HF = Horn + 2" voice coil driver
Connectors = 1/4" phone jack x 2, SPEAKON Neutrik NL4MP x 2
Dimensions (W x H x D) = 489 x 719 x 377mm (23.8" x 28.3" x 25.1")
Weight = S115V: 29.4kg (64.8lbs)/C115V: 30.3kg (66.8lbs)

Price: S115V Php 28,990.00 (less 10% since may SUMMER SWING-OUT SALE until April 30, 2010)
        C115V Php 29,990.00 (less 10% since may SUMMER SWING-OUT SALE until April 30, 2010)

[tjlimjoco]

Guys, pasingit na rin ako dito... ano sa 2 ang mas OK na option para ~50K price range?. Use? Occasional small band gigs, for Rental na rin kung may offer pero for most of the time naka fix sa bahay.

#1> 1pair JBL-JRX115 + Crown LPS2500

#2> 1pair Mackie THUMP (TH-15)

Im leaning towards the JBL speakers since they are made of MDF which some say "sounds better" than molded plastics. Plus makakamura ako sa upgrade options, +35K lang ang option#1 for additional speakers since ready na at capable ang amp whereas yun #2 +50K ulit.

Pero baka meron kayong ibang opinions, paki-share na lang.

bro, better kung i-A/B test mo ang two brands so you can decide better   ska stick with these two brands.  affordable na at branded pa  

[SAITOHAJIME]

Sir, try nyo po ung YAMAHA Club V Series S115V or C115V

Type = 2-way bass-reflex
Frequency range (-10dB) = 55Hz-16kHz
Nominal coverage = 90Hx40V
Nominal impedance = 8Ω
Power rating: NOISE = 250W
                   PGM = 500W
                   MAX = 1000W
sensitivity (1W,1m) = 99dB SPL
Component: LF = 15" cone
                 HF = Horn + 2" voice coil driver
Connectors = 1/4" phone jack x 2, SPEAKON Neutrik NL4MP x 2
Dimensions (W x H x D) = 489 x 719 x 377mm (23.8" x 28.3" x 25.1")
Weight = S115V: 29.4kg (64.8lbs)/C115V: 30.3kg (66.8lbs)

Price: S115V Php 28,990.00 (less 10% since may SUMMER SWING-OUT SALE until April 30, 2010)
        C115V Php 29,990.00 (less 10% since may SUMMER SWING-OUT SALE until April 30, 2010)

Boss pair na ba ang presyo nito? Medyo mataas kasi ang RMS @ 500 di ata kaya ng Crown LPS2500

[SAITOHAJIME]

Boss pair na ba ang presyo nito? Medyo mataas kasi ang RMS @ 500 di ata kaya ng Crown LPS2500

Aw, per piece pala....sobra sa budget heheheh

[sikyo]

Boss pair na ba ang presyo nito? Medyo mataas kasi ang RMS @ 500 di ata kaya ng Crown LPS2500

@SAITOHAJIME,

sir, program yata yung 500 watts ng Yamaha, not RMS. dagdag lang, mas pogi tingnan yung Mackie Thump kesa JRX 115 




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[Jef2]

since tested ko na ang jbl jrx115 for small set-ups and gigs and matched well with the crown lps2500 power amp,  i would go for these two.   

i did find some issues regarding the high frequency driver before.  although this may be a common problem for a typical 2way speaker system with a 1" hf driver,  we at least got a good substitute on the diaphragm since i think audiophile takes time to order the original jbl parts.  p-audio is a very good replacement 

jbl 2412 driver on jbl jrx115 speaker system


p-audio replacement diaphragm for the jbl 2412 driver  p1200 last updated price

[SAITOHAJIME]

Boss Jeff,
Thanks for the inputs. Replaced HF driver? bakit? madali bang masira?

Regarding specs, May kaso ba kung malaki ang difference sa Max SPL?
(JRX = 128db vs. THUMP = 113db, 15db difference) Does this mean mas malakas ang JRX? Tama ba?

A/B test? Though nadinig ko na etong dalawa na ito. It's still hard to compare since magkaiba sila ng store (Audiophile & SPL), Magkaiba din ng setup. For the Mackies, Well liked the "THUMP" they produce as they cut across the noisy streets of Raon (which was filled with crappy sounding speakers, hehehe). The JBL's I tested had very clear & soft sounds. 

What about other brands? The YAMAHA's are out my budget range hehehe. How about the sigma's by B3 with the 2" HF driver? Comparable ba sila?
 


 

[Jef2]

Boss Jeff,
Thanks for the inputs. Replaced HF driver? bakit? madali bang masira?

Regarding specs, May kaso ba kung malaki ang difference sa Max SPL?
(JRX = 128db vs. THUMP = 113db, 15db difference) Does this mean mas malakas ang JRX? Tama ba?

A/B test? Though nadinig ko na etong dalawa na ito. It's still hard to compare since magkaiba sila ng store (Audiophile & SPL), Magkaiba din ng setup. For the Mackies, Well liked the "THUMP" they produce as they cut across the noisy streets of Raon (which was filled with crappy sounding speakers, hehehe). The JBL's I tested had very clear & soft sounds. 

What about other brands? The YAMAHA's are out my budget range hehehe. How about the sigma's by B3 with the 2" HF driver? Comparable ba sila?
 


 

i use the jrx115 mainly for projects.  there are incidents of hf problems as i mentioned, but no big deal since there is already a p-audio substitute for it. 

as for the published specs, it's really difficult to compare using plain data sheets.  your ears will be the ultimate judge    i haven't heard the mackie thumps but i do have old mackie srm450 monitors and they still impress me until today 

[switchedon]

B3

quality 8/10
Durability 10/10

i have 12 units of Beta 3 speakers 4 of them passive and the rest are active, 3 yrs na yung pinakamatagal ko na b3 never pa nasira  , i also have 6 units of spl ps15 last sept / oct ko lang kinuha so far wala pa naman ako nararamdaman na sira ,  gas gasin nga lang   

[aHeartThatNeverFade]

sir,may nakacanvas ako dito sa Dagupan City (Pangasinan) na EVo speakers woth 28,000php with stands na. Yung church namin is about 2-3 college room in size. ano kaya ang ok na speaker? I mean gano kalakas lang (mic'd din mga instruments dapat)..hehe.

[aquaracer168]

kung low budget B3 ka na sir sigurado ka pa. kung may budget JBL, RCF, QSC or yung ibang highend. tumatagal talaga at sulit.

[SAITOHAJIME]

B3

quality 8/10
Durability 10/10

i have 12 units of Beta 3 speakers 4 of them passive and the rest are active, 3 yrs na yung pinakamatagal ko na b3 never pa nasira  , i also have 6 units of spl ps15 last sept / oct ko lang kinuha so far wala pa naman ako nararamdaman na sira ,  gas gasin nga lang   

Boss, yun bang "quality 8/10" mo eh build quality o sound quality? Malaki rin pala ibinaba ng mga presyo nito at almost 10K/pair over the JBL's.  Di naman ako "choosy" sa brand names. Habol ko lang po eh "value for my money"

[karlwilson]

Guys, pasingit na rin ako dito... ano sa 2 ang mas OK na option para ~50K price range?. Use? Occasional small band gigs, for Rental na rin kung may offer pero for most of the time naka fix sa bahay.

#1> 1pair JBL-JRX115 + Crown LPS2500

#2> 1pair Mackie THUMP (TH-15)

Im leaning towards the JBL speakers since they are made of MDF which some say "sounds better" than molded plastics. Plus makakamura ako sa upgrade options, +35K lang ang option#1 for additional speakers since ready na at capable ang amp whereas yun #2 +50K ulit.

Pero baka meron kayong ibang opinions, paki-share na lang.

bro saan available ang JBL JRX115 na sinsabi mo?i like to buy a pair sana..and how much ang pair?many thanks

[musicdigitalsounds]

Jbl

[SAITOHAJIME]

bro saan available ang JBL JRX115 na sinsabi mo?i like to buy a pair sana..and how much ang pair?many thanks

Sa audiophile ako nag canvass. 35,800Php ang pair nito. May discount daw kapag cash at more than 25,000Php ang price ng bibilhin mo, HTH

[SAITOHAJIME]

Sa audiophile ako nag canvass. 35,800Php ang pair nito. May discount daw kapag cash at more than 25,000Php ang price ng bibilhin mo, HTH

@Karlwilson,

Brad taga Starosa ka pala... dun din ako hehehe. Saan malapit studio mo?

[karlwilson]

@Karlwilson,

Brad taga Starosa ka pala... dun din ako hehehe. Saan malapit studio mo?

nasa loob ang POOC barangay ang studio ko bro,malapit sa East Drive subdivision at Sto.Nino Church..

[audiozone]

ung siga series ba ng b3 un ba ung wood ang box? and cya plastic?

how much srp ng b3 ts360? sigma?

[Leonart]

ung siga series ba ng b3 un ba ung wood ang box? and cya plastic?

how much srp ng b3 ts360? sigma?

TS360 ay plastic molded type siya sir, yung sigma naman is S215 ang mga model with sinlge 15 woofer and 2inch compression driver, last time ng nag inquire ako sa TMS 20K daw may less pa. Kaso wala silang available as of now, baka this second week pa daw ng May ang dating.

[stoney73]

I would still go for these combinations:







Proven sound, no amplifier issues and better control