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Offline peeves24

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electronic drum for studios
« on: July 10, 2007, 11:09:43 AM »
just saw this vid and its really cool that you can now interface drum pads to the PC.

ang daming sound possibilities na magagawa using any vst instrument


i really really want his setup  :-D

siguradong mas mura to at mas flexible kesa sa roland TD-20



*awww nagcheck ako ng price, 4k USD pala yung unit sa vid. 1k na lang TD-20 na rin  :-(
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Re: electronic drum for studios
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2007, 02:14:35 PM »
naisip ko na rin yan hehehe ang mahal nga lang  :-D

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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2007, 02:20:22 PM »
There's someone selling an Alesis D4 in the classifieds, it comes with trigger inputs for pads; AFAIK, you can use the D4 as a midi drum trigger. If you google around, you will find techniques on DIY trigger sensors that you can attach to practice pads or even real drum kits. Use the triggers in conjunction with the D4 and you have an electronic drum system. Me? I cheat a little... I use a Roland SPD-11 for triggering.  8-)
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Re: electronic drum for studios
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2007, 02:44:04 PM »
but the D4 has limited (or maybe none at all) dual-zone inputs. the new alesis trigger io supports 10 dual-zone inputs  :-D


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« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2007, 02:52:26 PM »
I dunno... not all pads have to be dual zone. Toms and kicks, in particular, use mostly single zone triggers. One of the reasons I got the SPD was that it accepted dual zone triggers (but I couldn't afford one of those PD-7/9s then  :cry: ).
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Re: electronic drum for studios
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2007, 02:58:24 PM »
sir KitC what if etong combo na to

http://www.musiciansbuy.com/Alesis-Trigger-IO-Electronic-Percussion-Interface-TRIGGERIO.html

and

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ddrum-Red-Shot-5Piece-Drum-Trigger-Pack?sku=442393

tapos mga practice drumpad ? will it work kaya ?

Looks like a good combination although the ddrum triggers are single zone only. I think they will work for simple setups... besides, the price looks very right.
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2007, 04:16:05 PM »
i like electronic drums kasi i dont have a nice room for recording drums... saka maliit yung space ko. it also removes a lot of work sa setup time at sa proper micking techniques..  8-)
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« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2007, 11:37:13 AM »
MAIN ADVANTAGE:  no noise during tracking!!! this means tipid ka sa sound proofing. hehe.
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Re: electronic drum for studios
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2007, 12:59:24 PM »
oo Hazel, idagdag ko lang ang OBSERVATION ko
1. alang bleed sa kabilang track
2. wala ng mauubos na oras sa mic placement
3. mapapalitan mo quality ng drum sound like size, muffle material placement and amount, room size, room reverb, attack, delay.
4. hindi mo na kailangan ng mic
5. mas maganda ang sound quality compared sa pipitsuging drum set/ drum mic.
6. puwede kang mag tracking sa madaling araw kahit ala kang sound room.--- ito ang da bes!
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Re: electronic drum for studios
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2007, 08:47:36 PM »
correct, ako po may diy drum set with roland td12... mas ok ang tracking ko kasi wala naman akong separate tracking room.

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« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2007, 09:42:54 PM »
ganda ng setup niyan ni george_estregan nakapunta na ako sa mini studio niyan eh hehehe post ka naman ng pics nung setup mo share mo sa kanila. magpost din ako pag natapos ko yung DIY edrum ko  :lol:

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« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2007, 09:57:07 PM »
hehe, salamat bugoy for the compliments. Eto po ung DIY edrum ko... I used 12" junior parade drums bought from raon then i cut them in half. All infos comr from diy edrum websites with some minor innovations, hehe.  :-D




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« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2007, 11:25:09 PM »
WOW ang galing mo chong!!! ok yan ah.. iniisip ko din yung mag cut ng drum kit na mumurahin kaso mahina at maliit yung kabitan ng toms hehehe.. ano ba ang trigger na ginamit mo? ako e TD10 lang module ko hehehe.. pero da bes yung nakasabit sa wall talagang DIY hehehe.. bass traps ba ito?
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« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2007, 11:57:32 PM »
wow! pag ganto na un set up

for recording nalang talaga yan

di mo na pedeng gamitn para sa mga rehersals diba

saka sana lagi my client para di sayang
wag mo problemahin ang problema, hayaan mong problema mamroblema sayo!!!!!

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2007, 09:26:50 AM »
WOW ang galing mo chong!!! ok yan ah.. iniisip ko din yung mag cut ng drum kit na mumurahin kaso mahina at maliit yung kabitan ng toms hehehe.. ano ba ang trigger na ginamit mo? ako e TD10 lang module ko hehehe.. pero da bes yung nakasabit sa wall talagang DIY hehehe.. bass traps ba ito?

module ko td12. yup, diy bass traps ung nakahang sa wall... bumili ako ng fiberglass tapos pinaupholtery ko lang para ultra tipid, hehe.

wow! pag ganto na un set up

for recording nalang talaga yan

di mo na pedeng gamitn para sa mga rehersals diba

saka sana lagi my client para di sayang

nagpapraktis pa rin kami ng banda ko dito pati na rin banda ng misis ko at banda namin (adik ba sa banda?), di naman sayang kasi me mga client naman, di pa nga lang ganun kadami kaya kung meron kayo sobra jan refer nyo na lang sakin, hahaha  :-D

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« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2007, 04:48:12 PM »
sir mga magkano inabot nitong gantong set up? and are all items you have used available locally?
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2007, 05:07:10 PM »
mura lang yan... mga 5k or less lang cguro. mas makakatipid ka kung meron ka nang acoustic drumset na available tapos icoconvert mo na lang to electronic. 'di mo naman sisirain ang acoustic e, lalagyan mo lang ng triggers. lahat ng components available locally, just visit www.edrum.info or toontrack's website for diy edrum guides.

incidentally, me and my friend also built the trigger to midi converter on the said link. all you need will be a midi input in your pc and drum sounds from a vst drum instrument or something similar.

my friend and i are thinking of offering to build the trigger to midi converter for anyone interested. i just need to know if anyone would indeed be interested and how much they'd be willing to pay. so, anyone up to it?

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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2007, 05:25:11 PM »
Uy!! ive seen this personally when i picked up george_estregan's mics stands and cable...

panalo talaga!

ako im interested sa ganyang kit para kahit sa bahay pede ako mag drums :D

how much magagastos?
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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2007, 05:55:06 PM »
mura lang yan... mga 5k or less lang cguro. mas makakatipid ka kung meron ka nang acoustic drumset na available tapos icoconvert mo na lang to electronic. 'di mo naman sisirain ang acoustic e, lalagyan mo lang ng triggers. lahat ng components available locally, just visit www.edrum.info or toontrack's website for diy edrum guides.

incidentally, me and my friend also built the trigger to midi converter on the said link. all you need will be a midi input in your pc and drum sounds from a vst drum instrument or something similar.

my friend and i are thinking of offering to build the trigger to midi converter for anyone interested. i just need to know if anyone would indeed be interested and how much they'd be willing to pay. so, anyone up to it?

thanks for the reply sir. now my next question is. possible ba sya pluig in sa amp same with Rolands V drums? actually secondary nalang ung recording eh, i wanted to set up kasi this kit for practice na controlled ang volume ng drums.
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Re: electronic drum for studios
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2007, 08:43:25 PM »
how much magagastos?

Di ko pa alam kung magkano ang total e, pero I'm thinking mga 5k siguro lahat. Just to make it clear, what we're offering is to build the trigger to midi converter only kind of like the alesis trigger i/o. You need to build your own diy drumkit for this.

thanks for the reply sir. now my next question is. possible ba sya pluig in sa amp same with Rolands V drums? actually secondary nalang ung recording eh, i wanted to set up kasi this kit for practice na controlled ang volume ng drums.

trigger to midi converter lang sya, like the alesis trigger i/o so no built in sounds. You need to plug the midi out to a sound generator or your pc to generate the drum sounds.

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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2007, 02:32:38 PM »
sir ako patulong i have my own acoustic drums pano ko ilalagay ung mga triggers? and all of those things kasama n b installation sa 5k very interested here thanks,...
marami po kaung matutulungan na spiring studio owners and mga taong gutso lng mgrecord thanks!!!!  :-D
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2007, 03:16:26 PM »
sir ako patulong i have my own acoustic drums pano ko ilalagay ung mga triggers? and all of those things kasama n b installation sa 5k very interested here thanks,...
marami po kaung matutulungan na spiring studio owners and mga taong gutso lng mgrecord thanks!!!!  :-D

You may search the net on how to put on the triggers. Marami naman designs basta google ka lang. 'Yung 5k ung trigger to midi converter lang yun just like the Alesis trigger I/O. You need to plug it to a computer or sound generator (drum module) via midi to get sound out of it kasi midi lang ang output nito. Visit www.edrum.info for more details on the diy module we offer.

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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2007, 03:45:14 PM »
You may search the net on how to put on the triggers. Marami naman designs basta google ka lang. 'Yung 5k ung trigger to midi converter lang yun just like the Alesis trigger I/O. You need to plug it to a computer or sound generator (drum module) via midi to get sound out of it kasi midi lang ang output nito. Visit www.edrum.info for more details on the diy module we offer.

sir peeves hehehe!! thanks sa reply,...
hmmmmm i dont know where to find and where to buy those triggers po e,..
are the edrums out for sale na po b?
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2007, 03:49:24 PM »
sir peeves hehehe!! thanks sa reply,...
hmmmmm i dont know where to find and where to buy those triggers po e,..
are the edrums out for sale na po b?

Sakin ba ang reply mo? Hindi ako si peeves e. Were still testing the market kung meron man. So far ikaw pa lang ang interested e. Siguro kelangan mag-up ng video of the unit in action para mas magkaron ng interes. Btw, you can buy piezo transducers (triggers) sa deeco electronics.